Subaru Misconceptions - This Is Not A Filter
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Thank you very much for making this.Been trying to tell people this for yrs. When I was a Toyota technician they had the same set up.
Yup the same here with other brands!
Ok so the car world owes you an apology
So the new 2020 has the same thing so all the filters r internal ones they're inside the system you can't change them is that the way I understand??
@@cbijames7 still have a screen at the bottom doesn't need changed. Since CVT has so few clutch packs it doesn't need as much filtering as a conventional auto trans
Well explained. I removed mine and cleaned it with brake cleaner and compressed air when I had the pan off but I probably didnt need to. Not really a maintenance item, just a strainer.
I understand the logic behind Subaru only having an internal filter on the CVTs. There isn't as much friction material like we see with the EATs, so changing the fluid on time should be the only service you need to perform.
But there is just something about changing a filter that puts your mind at ease.
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Good to know 4EAT owner with 130,000 miles on it that performs great .
I watch most of your videos, especially come maint time. Thank you so much for educating and providing us with such useful content and how-to's! I own a 2001 Forester, and a 2002 WRX :)
Hey thanks for clarifying. I made the same mistake calling it a filter. Have in the past found them ‘gummed up’ and either cleaned or replaced it as I had the pan off anyway.
It also stops pieces of solenoids from entering the rest of the transmission when people jump or smack the pan when off road.
Good video
Before I started doing all this work myself I had a mechanic tell me that this thing needed to be replaced and I didn't let him do it. Then I found the external AT filter soon after thanks to your vids.
Thank you for making this very clear, I've been doing drop and refill every 30,000 miles for Trans, Dif and Power Steering.
since i am watching u i have learnd so much about Subarus. Thanks. Greatings from Germany
A knowledgeale person would know that is clearly not a filter. I miss having a 4EAT, they always did well by me and lasted a long time with regular maintenance. Thanks for the vid!
Thank you so much, you just saved me 35 bucks
I usually get a transmission fluid change every second yearly roadworthy inspection.
He doesn't drop the pan, just drains out whatever is going to come out of the drain plug, and changes the spin on filter.
Only issue I can see with this is that the magnet in the pan does not get cleaned.
Thanks mate much appreciated! I too was wondering as in Aus you see these listed as filters so thanks for the heads up :)
I always figured if it's plugged up the strainer, it's time for a new transmission anyway. But any time I have an automatic trans vehicle, it gets a lot of fluid changes so the fluid never gets bad enough to plug anything.
I’m pretty sure I was guilty of saying there was a filter, but on a cross trek. Ooops
Thank you your saving me time and money
Just came across this issue ur video helped thank you and the previous one .....new to Subaru Forester so RUclips helps
You can say that a strainer "filters" out larger chucks to prevent damage making a strainer a filter. But yeah, I understand what you are saying. I don't replace those either when I do work on them.
Having rebuilt a few auto transmissions, I can say that you only need to rinse out the pickup/strainer
Great video. I just did a transmission service yesterday and opted to leave the old screen in. To much plumbing to remove and I didn’t want to mess up a good transmission.
I’ve had the same thoughts with GMC and Toyota too.Why am I changing a perfectly good screen.
Keep up the good work!
I remember trying to explain to someone one day that no, your transmission didnt fail because your screen got jammed up with junk, your transmission failed which THEN jammed up the screen.
Strainers also reduced the turbulence of the fluid at the pickup.
Just ordered the black filters for the FA Forester motor. Thanks for the info. Seems like they are getting kinda scarce. I got the last ones on EBay in the US. Lots available in Australia but shipping is $$$.
Apparently the SVX originally shipped with an internal filter but after several clogged filter-related transaxle failures, unofficially attributed to customer maintenance neglect (especially in the American market), they opted to remove and replace it with a simple strainer to prevent the problem in the future. Interesting that they moved to an external filter on some later AT models which, judging by one of your other videos, once again causes transaxle failures from customers neglecting to change them. Follow your maintenance schedules, people!
Those of us with proper gearboxes weren’t loosing any sleep.
facts
You mean a dogbox right?
5eat is a pretty good transmission if serviced correctly, no issues with it in the ez36
The 4EAT and 5EAT make it real easy to change the ATF filter...external spin on filter. Whenever i service a 4EAT I will change out the external spin on filter if it's never been replaced before.
This is why I don't read RUclips Comments.
Oh cool I was wondering about this and makes perfect sense because the filter on outside the transmission is what's doing it's job on my 2002 Forester
Part of the issue is misinformation from other DIY videos that claim this is a filter. There are a lot of them out there.
Yup... Everyone seems to think all automatic transmissions are just like old Turbo 350 GM and AOD Ford.
$25 a gallon OEM is the current rate, doing a flushed would easily double or more? So guess the only reason why I would pull it and clean it is to actually removed the gunk that sticks and usually requires some elbow grease. I pulled plenty of pans and have dealt with that gunk. Idk if it’s worth the trouble to removed but might do it down the line just feel so weird that the only real filter requires to removed the transmission and the dealer tells you the fluid is for life. You should drop this link on your CVT video
Technically speaking a filter is a really good strainer.... while a strainer does perform a similar function as a filter, it's just s really crappy filter, but it does filter none the less. But I do agree with you that the object in question is NOT considered a filter, but it does act like one on a sense. So it is like a filter just not a filter. Good day Sir..... oh I love your videos
Lovin the “thumb” nail, attached to this vid, perhaps it should be called the “finger” nail…. 😆
Changing out the battery on 06 out back an noticed a black spin on filter in the fender
Yup.
My 2009 legacy 4AT does not have a spin off filter. It has a internal transmission filter. Part # 31728AA130
It's an oil STRAINER, FFS
Good call..
2010 Subaru Impreza base with Electro 4-Speed Automatic Transmission (known as E-4AT or TZ1B8 (not CVT)). Asked Subaru for filter part # they gave me Subaru transmission Strainer part # 31728AA130 (supersedes 31728AA091). THIS IS NOT A FILTER. IT CONTAINS NO Filter medium, only wire mesh. This is not the one shown in your video, but it also is just a strainer. Purchased jobber part Beck Arnley 044-0367 Auto Transmission Filter Kit but when I examined it, found it is actually a wire mesh strainer only. Change not required? - Agreed.
Thanks sr.
It's totally off topic from this channel, but I'm adding a spin on filter to my Ford E350 chassis C6 transmission since it's getting a rebuild. Stock, it had no magnet in the pan and only a screen "filter". Maybe it's overkill but for about $50, I figure it's worth it. A $4 Motorcraft oil filter will fit the filter head so it's stupidly cheap to replace the filter annually. I do my own oil changes so there won't ever be any confusion as to why there's a tiny car oil filter under my 6.9L diesel. The transmission has lots of internal damage from age and probably the lack of filtering.
Don't use an engine filter
So the conclusion is a for frequent oil change is the maintenance and the preventative measurement
Yet official Subaru parts does call this a filter....31728AA180. I'm confused. I just changed it in my TR580 cvt. Looks similar to the "strainer" in your video but I do see what seems to be filter material in mine.
guess we both learned something new. always worked, maintained and rebuilt engines for my personal cars. i replied to your comment earlier on another channel. my 2014 5EAT Outback is gonna be the death of me, really frustrating me cause of the darn tranny filter
*Cerveza for You* 🍺
The 5eats strainer is filter material. Way different than the 4eat. It is almost like a washable air filter. I replaced mine anyway since I was in there but it was hard to come by. Subaru said they would only sell it with a new valve body. I ended up sourcing one new from Russia for about $20
Which year? Just did 5eat on a '05 OB XT. Had a strainer just like this one.
@@nergispaul9022 08 LGT. It’s def not a screen like that one.
Do you have a part number # , who did you order it through??
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@@jamesstacey529 I ordered it from Russia. Like I said. Subaru will only give you one with a new valve body. I can def find one of you need one. Pretty sure this eBay store in Russia still has them.
@@jamesstacey529 here is a listing for one w a turbine sensor. www.ebay.com/itm/264452203295
You have tought me alot about subbie. I'm working on rebuilding a 96 Subaru impresa
Thanks for the lesson.
So basically the transmission strainer operates like the engine oil strainer on the old 1400 - 1776cc VW Beatles?
Then a transmission strainer need not be replaced on any transmission from any maker that is similarly strainer-equipped?
Wish I was told this years ago! 😒
can you add a spin on filter on cars that didn't come with one. wifes 2010 obs doesn't have one.
Same question here.
There's no need. Honesty. Just change the CVTF regularly.
my trany has 282k and still going strong
yes there is it is clearly void and contaminated ! = mine is a TURBO with external screw on filter = i change the screen filter every 3 years - on light street duty ! i put a shift kit in also .
Thanks. So what is the point of removing the pan? Why not just replace the fluid, pump it through with the return line from cooler as outlet, replace fluid again, pump through, and replace fluid final time?
First :D - I have to do a fluid change on my 01 Forester next time I do the oil change should be interesting I haven’t done it before so should be fun 🤓
A suction screen still is a filter needs 2 be cleaned rather than replaced but why not replace when its cheap
Still a good idea to replace with new on a 96 legacy outback with 203k miles. ? Having trans issues slightly and contemplating changing ATF strainer filter and gasket
My 2011 Impreza has a 4eat but no external filter, should i just drain and fill more frequently? When Is it worth to drop the pan to clean the magnet?
I finally dropped the pan and cleaned the magnet at 330k, with regular fluid changes (i used full synthetic) it was a waste of time, dont bother.
Someone showed me a parts picture of a genuine filter in the 5eat p/n: 31835AA030 and looks to be a cartridge style but said only way to get to it is taking out the transmission, I've never heard of this and asking my parts at work and calling up local subaru parts searching for filter they said there isn't one... Except what about this?...
Am I being lied to? Is it because Subaru never changes this internal filter?
Can you please tell me what the rectangular nylon part on the bottom of of valve body, with the pleated fabric thing inside it, on the 09+ 5eats?
It has no metal mesh inside it. It has a pleated fabric filter material inside it. You can not see through it.
So the filter in my driver's side fender well is my transmission filter? 08 legacy gt
Are they confusing the screen as the filter 😮
Technically, screen IS a filter, just not as fine.
Is there a filter setup for these transmissions that are equipped with lifetime filters such as add on's. That way the fluid can be cleaned and make the fluid last longer thus saving the transmission?
Just change it regularly.
Most dealership service mgr., service advisers in my area all say the same thing-never have to change the atf-lifetime, maybe that is the reason Facebook is busting at the seams with a boatload of foresters/outback’s for sale cheep, sort of job security for flippers and P. O. Owners that have gravitated to other brands in lieu of spending 6K for a new tranny? 30K for atf change seems prudent if you drive the Hell out of it, but not for everyday commute. Either the tranny is kaput from new or under lubed due to size/quantity or were under engineered? Stubby just keeps on putting out crap cars and public is too stupid to grasp what is going on-Continious improvement or Failure?@@MrSubaru1387
Have to giggle sometimes 😂
Hello, I have a 2006 Subaru Baja and recently replaced 4 quarts of fluid and filter on my tranny. When I started the car and tried to shift the automatic tranny it will not shift to any gear to drive forward to back. Any idea what occurred?
Vessel JAWSFIT contest
I have an 09 outback 2.5 n/a 4eat and it doesnt have the spin on filter,it only has the screen inside
So I have a 1999 Subaru legacy L sedan 30th anniversary edition, the A/T oil temp light is always flashing and I have a check engine light for transmission duty solenoid A, do you think it's the solenoid or could it be a bad TCM issue, I don't get why a solenoid would cause trans oil temp light to keep flashing as soon as the car starts up, but I will replace the solenoid to see, because the car isn't shifting gears at the moment, but thanks for clearing up the filter confusion I was also thinking it was a oil pick up tube with a mesh on it but wasn't sure.
damn, just changed mine, got a WIX one too. Would you recommend an inline trans filter for 4EAT on an SVX? North American 1992, and JDM 1996 (S4).
Strainer not filter
If I want a filter in my 2009 Imprezza EJ204 with the 4EAT trans could I just put an inline filter in the cooling lines?
I have 2010 forester and radiator broke and now my transmission has coolant do I have to replace the transmission or just flush the transmission what you recommend
What do you think about the Ultra-8 cross reference to the spin on atf filter? I do not have a subaru dealer close by.
Hi, what NA Subie engines don't have the graphite head gaskets? Or should I say which NA dont blow? Thanks. Love watching all your videos.
All the EJ 2.5 N/As.
Is there any known way to improve the frictional strength between the CVT chain/belt/thing and the pulleys?
replace it with a manual gear box
@@apachelives Yeah, that's not viable on the WRX CVT.
Hello Mr Subaru. My 2010 Outback 6spd MT is making a sort of noise when I put the car in neutral to change gear or because I am fully stopped at a red light or so on. I notice the sound more when I am in town and on low speeds and the sound seems to be more noticeable outside rather than inside the cabin. The sound seems to be more of a "Thud" then a "clicking" sound. Would anybody have a clue as to what might be the issue. Thanks to anyone who helps.
Hello Mr Subaru,
i need your help. My 2009 forester petrol 2.0L Non-Turbo with 4 speed auto Transmission started showing Engine check, Traction Control, ABS & AT Oil Temp Errors on the Dash. then from there the transmission started to stall at times and came with code P0700 when diagnosing. I am of the view that the transmission is faulty and the transmission type number is TZ1B8LTZAB -R5 and i have been looking for a transmission with the same number for a long time.
I cannot get it. My Question to you is "Is it possible that i can use any transmission with the same physical appearance with the one in my car but with different transmission numbers. Everything looks the same except that number of the trans number type"
Have u done a transmission service on a 2020 forester? What transmission is in the 21 forester?
Where's your shop? I am in AZ but am willing to bring my Forester anywhere you are.
I'm in South Carolina. That's a little bit of a trek. Lol
Bet you'll get more such comments, on THIS video. 🙄
Yup, 'cause people are idiots.
I have an 09 Forester with a 2.5L EJ253 , just to be clear there is no reason to remove the pan unless there is a leak or more work to do inside other than simply changing trans fluid? And to get ALL fluid out youd have to drain and refill about 3-4 times? Thanks in adavancce1
Isn’t a screen a very basic filter?
To be fair you don't have a single video on how to properly shim an intake manifold or change a capacitor bearing. Are you even an expert!?
To be fair, once when my car couldn't start, it was Mr. Subaru's video on how replace the solenoid filter that got me going again.
@@jojopojo9516 In another video he shows you how to make your own filter out of 000 steel wool and a moustache comb.
www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/intake-manifold-spacers
@@master_moose Lol. Mr. Subaru is a modern day MacGyver, a genius. It wouldn't surprise me if his next video tells us how to use a paperclip and a sharpie to weld a cracked cylinder head.
Oh man what did I cause lol
No I've been getting comments on it for years. Lol
@@MrSubaru1387 Hey Robert thanks for clearing that up for us when you said there’s no filter in there I kept thinking well there’s gonna be some sort of strainer type device !
That just makes me wanting to keep up on my maintenance since there really is no filter in there
How often should I be swapping fluid in my 4eat?
3yr/36k miles
Which year cars or models were the 4at and 5at transmissions in
89-ish till 2010-ish
Aluminum is not magnetic!
Right.... That's why I said the pan magnet won't get it, and it ended up in the screen... 🙄
Jesus Christ did you have the volume off when watching the video?
So the 4eat is so good that it doesn't need a filter
It has a spin on filter. Covered in previous video.
@@MrSubaru1387 my 2009 doesn't have the spin on filter 😔
Yeah, 07 was the end of them.
Angry Subaru guy
No Scotty Kilmer title?
Hi please I need some help here my Subaru Forester 2.5l 2004 is throwing out liquid oil out of the exhaust outlet with a lot of white smoke. Kind regards
Turbo?
Yes thank you
If it's a Forester XT, I'd guess turbo oil seal blew.
Sorry to bother you but could you please tell me how to fix it
Going to be a turbo replacement if that's the issue.
1st
dude, get to the point.