Frank Zappa and the origins of sampling.

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • 🎥 CBS This Morning, 1989

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  • @joevokey1340
    @joevokey1340 Год назад +207

    Casual Frank, speaking casually, but frankly…

    • @skee2335
      @skee2335 Год назад +3

      And always Shirley.

    • @handmadehearts
      @handmadehearts Год назад +1

      Frank was always frank.
      I miss him.

  • @Noah_AWICB
    @Noah_AWICB Год назад +78

    Every time I think about what Zappa might've been up to if he were with us today, it makes me a little sad he's not with us anymore

    • @oneSinglebrainCell
      @oneSinglebrainCell Год назад +1

      Say that about Michael Jackson and Freddy mercury or ALL of those great musisians that aren't here anymore!

    • @Noah_AWICB
      @Noah_AWICB Год назад

      @@oneSinglebrainCell MJ, it's debateable because he was most likely a paedophile

    • @seanbrennan5192
      @seanbrennan5192 Год назад +1

      Yeah he was so smart and resourceful. Probably would have gone into podcasting and music NFTs haha

  • @josephhuether1184
    @josephhuether1184 Год назад +35

    Interestingly…Beethoven didn’t even have access symphony orchestras (conservatory trained people) of the caliber we have today.
    Beethoven had to scrounge and hustle just to get enough musicians to perform his canonical works a couple of times…with only about a day of rehearsal. There obviously was no recorded music. Most of the time it was just him, his pianoforte (modern piano hadn’t been invented yet) and his phenomenal mind and its ability to construct music and memorialize it on paper.

  • @sunshineharper4845
    @sunshineharper4845 Год назад +13

    Zappa was always way ahead of his time and totally honest! I've loved him since 1972.

  • @bodhisattva71
    @bodhisattva71 Год назад +69

    *Zappa was right about the human element being flawed.*

    • @twistedspanner
      @twistedspanner Год назад +3

      That syncavier is now a museum piece. Now with computers and using midi removes the human element.
      Using computers or midi is ok for dance music etc but using it for classical music which Frank used it for took out the life out of it. Cos classical music needs the human touch.
      The music he did on it sounds dated.
      Frank was too much a perfectionist.
      Tho I'm a massive fan.
      You need the certain individuals in a band to make that band great. Take out a member or two and it can ruin the chemistry.
      Take King Crimson for example.
      They did one of the best debut albums in rock history and after a couple of members left they were never the same.
      That machine is nothing more than an obsolete electric teapot.

    • @m.vonhollen6673
      @m.vonhollen6673 Год назад

      @@twistedspanner You’re right about certain members being essential for the chemistry but wrong about the machines being “teapots”.
      Each have their place.

    • @twistedspanner
      @twistedspanner Год назад +1

      @@m.vonhollen6673 Sure. Midi is handy in it's place. I've used it myself in songs featuring guitars and real drums which are played by humans.
      A whole song recorded in midi and quantized sucks the life out of it for me and it sound too clinical and too perfect.
      That's why you now have midi drum machines that are programmed to drift in and out of time to try and make it sound authentic and give it the human touch.
      All this has come a long way since Zappa was composing his orchestral music on the synclavier.
      You can tell that midi stuff from the 80's sounds like primitive technology. Just like computer graphics.
      He'd had bad experiences with orchestras especially British ones who liked a traditional pint to relax before or during a recording break. 😁
      Frank being the perfectionist he was must have found the synclavier was ideal in getting his ideas down and recorded so he could and later present the music to a real orchestra which he did and was happy with the results.
      I love Zappa especially the 60' & 70's stuff but not so much his 80's stuff.
      But Tbh I haven't given it much time.
      As for the electric teapot remark that was just a joke.
      Musicians in the 80's had all this musical technology like the fairlight sampler at their disposal and were and were encouraged to use them on their next albums. Now the fairlight itself is a also an obsolete museum piece.
      Even Pink Floyd hated those 80's stuff so much they re recorded the drums and replaced the keyboards of their comeback album 'The Momentary Lapse of Reason' cos it sounded so 80's they used older equipment to give it a more 70's Floyd sound.
      PS Some producers these days don't even bother to record a second or third verse or chorus. They'll concentrate on getting just one of each right and copy and paste that for the rest of the song so basically you've already heard the whole song after the first chorus just to save time.
      I wouldn't dream of doing that these days. Cos I know it's cheating.
      Also people can pick up on it.
      Leave in a mistake or a Bum note like even Hendrix did and Bowie did with the bass mistake on Jean Genie.🤔

    • @angru5oklok
      @angru5oklok Год назад +3

      He only likes his own flaws lol

    • @marksonanything
      @marksonanything Год назад

      Very flawed.

  • @jaya1305
    @jaya1305 Год назад +39

    You know this is old when FZ praises his computer for being like a "word processor" for music! 😂

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 Год назад +1

      Yeah? Not because Frank's been dead for 30 years?

    • @TheBanana93
      @TheBanana93 2 месяца назад

      ​@@castleanthrax1833I bet you get invited to a lot of parties

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 2 месяца назад

      @@TheBanana93 Hahaha. The absence of a sense of humour in some people is truly baffling. 👌

  • @neesesunapologtictone
    @neesesunapologtictone Год назад +3

    The perfect replies to all the questions!

  • @britgirl68
    @britgirl68 Год назад +18

    A brilliant response intelligence and wit, Zappa loved him❤

  • @TheSteelDialga
    @TheSteelDialga Год назад +13

    I love that this interview was live on tv at Zappa's house, but I always felt that this interviewer just did not care at all

    • @brownstonecustomcabinetry5309
      @brownstonecustomcabinetry5309 Год назад +2

      I think the interviewer just didn't know or couldn't conceive what Zappa was saying. I mean you got to remember Frank Zappa's doing this at the beginning. Artists are almost always 30 years ahead of what normal people can conceive. Think about it. People are just now listening to J Dilla. And J Dilla was one of five people listening to Ahmad Jamal. Jamal did Swaziland in 1978. Dilla did Stakes Is High in 1996. In 2016 orchestras we're doing Stakes Is High. It took us forty years to understand one passage of one song by a genius the level of Ahmad Jamal. That's how far behind we are from guys at that level of music-making.

    • @TheSteelDialga
      @TheSteelDialga Год назад

      @@brownstonecustomcabinetry5309 Yeah good point. Zappa would fit in nicely in our modern times. Stakes is High is De La Soul though, and I don't think your point logically follows to your conclusion, but I like idea. Sometimes society just ain't ready for the innovations of the past

  • @kerbygator
    @kerbygator Год назад +15

    Seen Zappa five times in Chicago, tripping always of course. I know, you don't need acid to enjoy a Zappa concert, but it made it so much more fun.

    • @anthonycassillo5142
      @anthonycassillo5142 2 месяца назад +1

      Only got to see Frank Zappa once in 1984, 9 hits of white blotter acid, seen Dweezil 5 times

  • @kfc1951
    @kfc1951 Год назад +2

    I am loving all this Zappa on my feed!

  • @miked6426
    @miked6426 Год назад +7

    Zappa played pure music...

  • @notyetskeletal4809
    @notyetskeletal4809 Год назад +2

    Trent Reznor hit the spot with the tech.

  • @yankeedyehard
    @yankeedyehard 2 месяца назад

    If I’m not mistaken, I think what Frank is referring to, is a Synclavier. The Synclavier was an early digital synthesizer, polyphonic digital sampling system. Zappa was one of the first musicians to employ this technology.

  • @InformationIsTheEdge
    @InformationIsTheEdge Год назад

    Music is creativity of mind. The machine just makes it easier to bring it into the world.

  • @alejandrohidalgo834
    @alejandrohidalgo834 Год назад

    how amazing these videos are

  • @guitarslinger67
    @guitarslinger67 Год назад +1

    Love Zappa , so creative love his abstract and intellect

  • @jaydrummer333
    @jaydrummer333 Год назад +3

    frank zappa is the best

  • @robertdipaola3447
    @robertdipaola3447 2 месяца назад

    Frank Zappa, a true musical genius

  • @marcusbradley4399
    @marcusbradley4399 Год назад +5

    The human flaws are what make music great. Machine-manufactured music sounds machine-like

    • @GeoffBosco
      @GeoffBosco Год назад +4

      I dont think he meant performances. The context is clearly the production of musical peices to eventually be played by humans. Otherwise he would have toured with computers after this.

  • @nlb6690
    @nlb6690 Год назад +1

    Such an incredible pragmatic confidence

  • @artanddesign8561
    @artanddesign8561 Год назад +9

    I freaking love Zappa!!!! Right on!!

  • @meursault7030
    @meursault7030 Год назад +1

    "The microchips would get in the way"
    Clearly knows what he's talking about...

  • @medcabmarc2320
    @medcabmarc2320 Год назад +1

    This type of machinery is called a Synclavier. Look it up! They actually just came out with a waaaay smaller version. ✌️Zappa forever

    • @sosimple3585
      @sosimple3585 Год назад

      You can get it as a VST plugin from Arturia.

  • @stefanogoatin
    @stefanogoatin Год назад

    Grande maestro della musica contemporanea tutti hanno provato ad imitarlo ma è solo lui. Non c'è ne per nessuno ❤❤😊😊

  • @keithcarpenter5254
    @keithcarpenter5254 2 месяца назад

    Talking about the Synclavier.😊

  • @bodgiesteve8849
    @bodgiesteve8849 Год назад

    'Word processor ' . I remember them, electric typewriters

  • @TheDude8008
    @TheDude8008 Год назад

    I like that he clarified at the end that the human element in art was unreliable because people can be a pain in the ass to work with, but I don't like that he liked the automitation of music, one of the things that's damaging the outcome of quality works and opportunities for artists to this day.

  • @thetruthhurts6652
    @thetruthhurts6652 Год назад +1

    Machines are just another instrument.

  • @joeferris5086
    @joeferris5086 Год назад +1

    This journalist really had his finger on the pulse bc that argument of "computers getting in the way" is the argument that's made against that kind of tech today.

    • @TheDude8008
      @TheDude8008 Год назад

      The fact that Frank saw music as a product and business makes me think he might have been in favor of those awful practices, I mean even his image is used in hologram concerts.

  • @Doctor_Sex_Ass
    @Doctor_Sex_Ass Год назад

    I would love to hear what Zappa could make with modern day technology. Such a shame he passed away. 😢

  • @jeffreymorris4827
    @jeffreymorris4827 Год назад

    I'm going to listen to Willie the pimp, live on the tubes.

  • @Full-Tonk
    @Full-Tonk Год назад

    Without electronics all music would sound like neil young.

  • @davidosborn7469
    @davidosborn7469 Год назад

    I love Zappa! Died way before his time.

  • @aj-tp2yh
    @aj-tp2yh 2 месяца назад

    Peace Love Harmony Frank thankyou

  • @thelastgreyhawk2161
    @thelastgreyhawk2161 Год назад +3

    He was right about the human element being unreliable, but at the same time the human element can add a lot to music, especially live performances with improv. I'm sure he would've enjoyed the evolution of music making in the current digital age maybe, but I wonder if he would eventually turn against it for becoming so insincere and empty.

    • @junglajuan
      @junglajuan Год назад +2

      Yeah, it's called transhumanism, not good. But I think Frank was just tired of the musicians

    • @tomdemartomdemarreally5878
      @tomdemartomdemarreally5878 Год назад +3

      I thought he was being sarcastic. Mistakes are the basis of improvisation and creativity

    • @ceciliaortiz2375
      @ceciliaortiz2375 Год назад +1

      ​@@junglajuan principalmente de los músicos de orquesta sinfónica quienes le crearon muchos gastos al no estudiar bien sus partituras, volver del descanso de los ensayos borrachos y que saliera mal su grabación. Una pieza tuvo que editarla 40 veces porque no tocaron bien los vientos

    • @ceciliaortiz2375
      @ceciliaortiz2375 Год назад +2

      ​@@junglajuan "stricktly genteel" es la pieza que editó 40 veces. Y un álbum grabado con la sinfónica de Londres salió tan mal según el que lo lanzó para dejar en evidencia a los músicos. Todo esto lo cuenta en su autobiografía.

    • @ceciliaortiz2375
      @ceciliaortiz2375 Год назад +2

      ​@@junglajuan
      También despotricaba contra la familia de los sindicatos de músicos.

  • @mattzank9559
    @mattzank9559 Год назад +1

    Love FRANK

  • @franceskinskij
    @franceskinskij 2 месяца назад

    and then he made Jazz from Hell. Truly marvelous

  • @sunnavailable
    @sunnavailable Год назад

    I'm with Frank.

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 Год назад

    I miss this Guy.. Awesome thinker

  • @The-F.R.E.E.-J.
    @The-F.R.E.E.-J. Год назад

    It's interesting how everyone here applauds, what Frank is saying, when he is encouraging the end of all human musicianship - including his own guitar playing! Remember, he only played once or twice after discovering this machine. So, I don't think the future would have been so Grand, as far as fans of live music goes, because Frank would have been fully automated for the last 30 years of his life, had he lived till now.

  • @jandoel
    @jandoel Год назад

    You can tell the host isn't a musician. It shouldn't matter what instrument you use, it's about the personal connection with the music itself.

  • @scottelliott6568
    @scottelliott6568 Год назад +1

    Frank was the man.

  • @ryannave5696
    @ryannave5696 Год назад

    Morrison and Zappa, the progenitors of EDM.

  • @slamfreepoetry1845
    @slamfreepoetry1845 Год назад

    A.I. Frank Zappa will be epic.

    • @ronroyer1888
      @ronroyer1888 Год назад +1

      Fabulous thought!… fabulous & simultaneously terrifying.

    • @boogerbrains138
      @boogerbrains138 Год назад

      Fingers crossed for an ice age

  • @MetalRam
    @MetalRam Год назад +1

    if not familiar with this mans music, take the time

  • @billyisbored
    @billyisbored Год назад

    Imagine what they would say and think now

  • @adamk5937
    @adamk5937 Год назад +1

    Frank Zappa is patient with an interviewer who didn’t think his questions through. Very smart and talented man, Frank.

    • @billyconnelly3568
      @billyconnelly3568 Год назад +1

      What the questions were intelligent

    • @adamk5937
      @adamk5937 Год назад

      @@billyconnelly3568 I guess we disagree.

  • @pappachook
    @pappachook Год назад

    Skrillex back in the day.

  • @user-qr1dk9ud2s
    @user-qr1dk9ud2s Год назад +1

    Running Unix in a Honeywell or is that a Sun? Video tape is grainy, how about a young Harry Smith and Frank puffing away😅
    I met Harry while he was reporting on the Dead in Landover at the four seasons bar😅😅😅

  • @jeepneygang
    @jeepneygang 2 месяца назад

    He would do a complete 180 if he were alive today

  • @TK-ro5nn
    @TK-ro5nn Год назад

    But the human brings it the soul. The imperfections are what makes it yours and yours only. That's why we never use a drum machine. Analog all the way.

  • @Einnor084
    @Einnor084 Год назад

    If ur a TRUE Composer, muzak processorz, r bomb!
    Mozart wit a few Synclavierz?
    I think we'da had 4x azz much muzak.

  • @robjay6200
    @robjay6200 2 месяца назад

    He’s like the John mcaffee of music

  • @danholmes5309
    @danholmes5309 Год назад

    That forced awkward laugh like hes sure Zappa is joking but not sure he gets the joke. By far the funniest part is hes not joking at all.

  • @marccorrea3682
    @marccorrea3682 Год назад

    As the “leader” of my band, I know exactly what he means.

  • @billbbobby2889
    @billbbobby2889 Год назад

    Patterns, everything is patterns.

  • @anthonycassillo5142
    @anthonycassillo5142 2 месяца назад

    Frank Zappa is the only modern day musical genius, but I really care for the synclavier

  • @jupitor919
    @jupitor919 Год назад +5

    Frank smoked too much, it’s hard to cut out that cigarette with your morning coffee but they don’t call them coffin nails for nothing. Frank left us way too soon.

    • @boogerbrains138
      @boogerbrains138 Год назад

      Cancer just happens and he had it in the prostate 🙈

    • @Full-Tonk
      @Full-Tonk Год назад

      My uncle thought Bob Marley's cancer in his toe was "all that weed he smoked"

  • @reolabranch
    @reolabranch Год назад +1

    Interesting! I've only listened to Dweezle.

  • @felipe8511
    @felipe8511 Год назад +1

    "computers are a lot more messed up than people, i think computers can take it to a new level, im all for it, people are... people are the worst...the worst thing about music is that people play it, HAHA *proceeds eating the sandwich*"
    - mike patton

  • @ApocryphalDude
    @ApocryphalDude Год назад

    Didn't classical composers copy their own motifs and themes scnstantly.

  • @kryptonic269
    @kryptonic269 Год назад

    Frank imagination and
    skill set is on the same par
    as Mozart Beethoven Brahms without a Computer
    there’s no one who comes close to franks amazing, funny, dark humorous,
    lyrical content.

  • @GuitarGuy057
    @GuitarGuy057 2 месяца назад

    Asking Frank fucking Zappa about "actual music" is hilarious.

  • @finnmcool2
    @finnmcool2 Год назад

    The old composers stole from each other all the time. Motifs, chord progressions, even melody lines all got passed around.

  • @jallakka7149
    @jallakka7149 Год назад +1

    No Frank.

  • @dietmarsimon
    @dietmarsimon Год назад

    FZ ! No further comments required.

  • @szymonhalasa9790
    @szymonhalasa9790 Год назад

    Yo cats. Yo yo.

  • @grouchyblackman
    @grouchyblackman 2 месяца назад

    AI enters the chat....

  • @candeffect
    @candeffect Год назад

    Frank demonstrated 'human flaw' by forcing concentrated air pollution into his lungs.

    • @sosimple3585
      @sosimple3585 Год назад +1

      Yep. That's the beauty of liberty. We all get to choose our own brand of stupid.

  • @johncase2408
    @johncase2408 Год назад

    Zappa thnking: Your parents really screwed up by buying used condoms.

  • @seanmulligan2608
    @seanmulligan2608 Год назад

    Yes, for God's sake, let's let AI just do the music for us

    • @michaeljarvis5489
      @michaeljarvis5489 Год назад

      I bet AI would end up being like the A hos that used to always mess with a group's efforts, threatening to ruin their career or not do their record if the didn't change this or that. And it would all be the same as the bland stuff we get through American Idol, only more efficiently. In that sense, I'm with you.
      But electronics can just be another tool for humans, not a replacement.

  • @400KrispyKremes
    @400KrispyKremes 2 месяца назад

    That interviewer is a true Luddite.

  • @ltopomcfly5583
    @ltopomcfly5583 10 месяцев назад

    Zappa was a great musical artist but "the origins of sampling"? he did not invent everything. Sampling was around well before he got into it.

  • @simplyshorts748
    @simplyshorts748 2 месяца назад

    This didn’t age well 😂
    „It improves it by subtracting the human element „

  • @jomamackdaddy
    @jomamackdaddy Год назад

    Arrogence off the charts. Love his music, but Mozart and Brahms will calm the universe, Zappa, at best, will only give the gods a chuckle.

  • @garthwick19
    @garthwick19 Год назад

    given the awful mediocrity of today's pop and most electronic music, sadly Mr Zappa's comments did not age well.

  • @alejandroacevedo9409
    @alejandroacevedo9409 Год назад

    Hes wrong😂 but he sounds smart. The human element is what makes it enjoyable and relatable

  • @chrismiller5875
    @chrismiller5875 Год назад

    it's not music without musicians, this when frank lost my interests

  • @buttoxbrown
    @buttoxbrown 2 месяца назад

    People that do shit music are good at bulshitting, that's how they get fans

  • @chriswalker5154
    @chriswalker5154 Год назад

    Without the human element you don’t have music, it’s not just a string of notes.
    Frank was not as great as everyone thinks.

    • @israelcrook4629
      @israelcrook4629 Год назад

      yes he was. just because you can' think

    • @israelcrook4629
      @israelcrook4629 Год назад

      there were rests too, and tempo, and time signature, i'm sure you can't understand.

    • @israelcrook4629
      @israelcrook4629 Год назад

      with out humans, there isn't music. i doubt what you listen to qualifies as music

  • @aodhanodonnell2148
    @aodhanodonnell2148 Год назад +1

    Good god mozart and beethoven were- immortal, have you heard the crap zappa called his orchestral works, with or without technology zappa's music will always a joke

  • @watchingyou5003
    @watchingyou5003 Год назад

    Zappa is such a hack. he's quintessentially the least important person in music.

    • @Harry_Eyeball
      @Harry_Eyeball Год назад +2

      I'm gonna pretend you're joking about Zappa. Who's a better musician than him? And....... GO!

  • @williamjohnbedford5776
    @williamjohnbedford5776 Год назад

    ZAPPA WAS THE MAIN MAN, DIDN'T SUFFER FOOLS NOR B.S.🇮🇲👍🇮🇲

  • @beethovensg
    @beethovensg Год назад

    Frank used crutches because he lacked raw talent.