Frank Zappa - The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson April 3, 1986 - From My Master
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Frank Zappa - The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson - April 3, 1986
From my Master
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Frank was quite possibly the most intellectual musician in American music. He almost certainly was the most varied and accomplished composer in American history. He wrote opera, symphonies, and instrumental pieces that were entirely written out, every note, every instrument. An amazing guy who could certainly be described as an American Treasure.
Thank you for your comments!
And in the 21st Century nobody has even come close to ZAPPA'S intelligence, AMAZING musical genius.
ROCK IN PEACE FRANCESCO ZAPPA 😎✌
Why does someone have to be the most? There is no "most" intellectual musician in American music.
Indeed
Written out, every note, every instrument is how every single orchestral composer in history has done it.
Zappa was remarkable but don't give him extra credit for engaging in necessary common practice.
"Please welcome Frank Zappa, who asked to be introduced as a national treasure, but we know he's just a musician!" - Funniest thing about it is that he was/is a national treasure! We miss you Frank! RIP
The last honest man.
Frank was more of an universal treasure…
National Treasure hahaha 😆
Same for Johnny.
That's when America was Great! ❤ Zappa, Johnny Carson, ZZ-TOP....
Johnny is even cooler than I remember because I'd never have imagined him having Frank on.
A real conversation about a real issue: censorship. I wish there were conversations of this depth and substance on TV every day.
Zappa and Carlin icons of a generation.
"Zappa and Carlin"? Brilliant... Two icons from the same generation that could not be further from one another on the spectrum of entertainment. One is a musical composer and the other is a standup comedian. The things they do have in common with each other is that they are both vocal against government and they are both decomposers.
He was a National Treasure.
Wish he was still here.
Indeed. Instead we're stuck with Jimmy Fallon.
I could listen to Frank talk for hours. He was a genius in more ways than just music.
These old clips make Frank Zappa look prophetic today, but the truth is that real wisdom is timeless.
And real wisdom takes time.
It was great to see Johnny and Ed show Frank such respect.
Zappa is the most famous musician whose music has only been heard by other musicians
He really was a national treasure.
Yes, Johnny really was!
you mean the nation treasurer
itreasureR frank and Jonny moment question did Frank do another appearance on tonight show 🤔
@@steveprudell9976 Yes, when Steve Allen was host in 1963. Nice they had him back after 23 years. ruclips.net/video/QF0PYQ8IOL4/видео.html
This is surreal, and I believe that it's the only time it ever happened:
Carson could be (among many other things) a brilliant interviewer, and Zappa was a polymath, and a champion of Individual Liberty.
God Bless them both.
Greatest national treasurer ever.
Love, love, love, Zappa, but the U.S. also produced Mark Twain, James Baldwin, the Eurythmics, Glenn Greenwald, and Negativland.
Johnny comes across sincerely impressed and respectful of Frank, while Frank appears ever so slightly intimidated by Johnny. I would be, too, only, I've never seen it in Frank before. Nothing to be ashamed of. Johnny was the greatest of them all and his show the model for all that came after it, not to mention being a Los Angeles icon of the greatest possible magnitude. 🎸
As far as I know, Johnny liked Frank, and he loved Chuck Berry but not many others. I think allot of the rock stars of that time period didn't give Johnny a chance.
Johnny was class
Wanting to call FZ an American Treasure, okay, but the greatest compliment one could give the man is simply that which speaks the simple truth. Frank Zappa: American Composer.
Johnny was open to more than we thought.
He was a drummer, and apparently a very good one. And the drums were Frank's first instrument.
Johnny's approach to Zappa really shows his mastery of interviewing
Blimey - intelligent conversation on a chat show where the guest ISN'T plugging their latest film/TV Programme or record.
I find it shocking to hear such a polite, well informed and intelligent discussion on a late night television show. Those days are long gone. Johnny was the best!
Yeah right!🙄 Because that's all you hear on Greg gutfield! Pfft. What a bitch
Yeah right !🙄 there's a writers strike right now genius. You're just mad because those shows make you feel (rightfully)like a dipshit , because of your shitty politics! Wah way they don't like the shittiest president in history!😭😭😭😭😭😭
When an interviewer gave Frank respect, he invariably returned it. You can see it here, and I remember another with Michael Douglas back in the day. What a genius. We lost him too soon.
Honey honey aye, baby don't want a man like me ... ("Give him respect, he returns it.")
Frank Zappa was one of the greatest Americans
Carson demonstrates why he was so brilliant.
Johnny Carson had skills to delve into the censorship topic with Frank right away, and then let Frank do the talking. He was a graceful host and you could tell he would’ve talked with Frank all night.
Frank Zappa...The first "freak musician" to move to Laurel Canyon...and the first to leave. Always a few steps ahead of the crowd..😎
Well said. Thanks for sharing!
He was put there by the establishment.
I had absolutely no idea that FRANK ZAPPA appeared on the tonight show starring Johnny Carson.he appeared on other talk shows throughout his life and stuff like that but not THE TONIGHT SHOW,this is the first time I've seen this.FRANK ZAPPA having a casual chat about cenership with JOHNNY CARSON? very interesting.R.I.P to both Frank and Johnny.
Frank was always spot on. Listening to him is fascinating!!
damn, carson was astute enough to know it when he saw it. the PMRC testimony is, indeed, fascinating. one of the great moments in american history
Carson was a class act. Zappa, I realized in my latter years, was a genius
As relevant in 2023 as it was back then! Johnny is a class act, and is having an intelligent conversation with Frank. You would not see such things on "late night" TV today! Thanks for posting!
Really nice to see the respect that they gave each other and to see Frank smile at the conclusion.
R.I.P. Frank Zappa ! One who lead his time and brought out others to do in same.
The world became just a little less safe and worse off when FZ died. We need him now more than ever.
Just when you have Johnny Carson figure it out he blows your mind also he really Was intrigued with Frank Zappa
Honesty, integrity, intelligence and talent is a dangerous combination...to some people. To others it is embodied in Frank Zappa and his music and public service.
😂😂😂
Johnny Carson is the best interviewer of all time
And Frank Zappa is the best interviewee.
You can tell that Frank respected Johnny and the show. Wearing a nice suit. Even a rebel and person viewed as “Anti Establishment “ had enough class and respect to dress presentable on TV. Looked nice. Like a Lawyer. Ha!!!
What’s funny is that the first Album to get the lyric warning label, was Zappas Jazz from Hell… an instrumental album with no lyrics at all
I appreciate the pace so much....Nowadays everything is so rushed. Johnny lets him talk, it's an actual conversation.
Frank Zappa….IS…. a national treasure
Huge Zappa fan who was lucky enough to see him live here. I had NO CLUE he was on the Carson show! David Letterman and others yeah. But Johnny? Don't know how I missed this. How cool. Thanks for posting.
You're welcome. Thanks for Watching!
But Zappa was a national treasure. Yet...another country made him their Minister Of Culture.
Zappa was the Minister of Everything!
Frank was a musical genius and a funny man.
And he DID manage to make a pornographic music track..
"The torture Never Stops"???? filth.. LOL😅
One of the great things about Carson...
He had the grapefruits to do guests and material that challenged the status quo or the stick up the tailpipe types.
Definitely not something you'll see on the mainstream anymore.
Goddamn I miss Frank -- and Johnny too
This is great. Thanks for posting.
Johnny was the best and it's so nice to see him with Frank.
You're welcome 😊
2 Of the biggest talents ever,.. in their respected businesses
looking back, Frank had a loooong history with television appearances on late night shows. All the way back to Steve Allen.
Wasn't he playing on a bike tire?
@@progger53 Yep. 1963.
Well said Mr. Frank. And kudos to Johnny. I had no idea he was so enlightened on the subject of censorship.
We need Frank NOW
More than ever.
Seen 'em 5 times at the Uptown Theater in Chicago. 3 hour shows for like 6.50 a ticket. Tripping .....
Damn you. When brain dumping into another happens, I wanna tap in to yours for that. I'll give you 7.00.
"Think of the kids!" has often been the excuse for censorship by people who treat kids like property, or worse... generally worse.
Just want to show my appreciation for everything you've shared throughout the years Lagz.. outstanding, Thank you.
You're welcome. Happy to share.
Frank Zappa was brilliant, besides all his other talents he also had a great sense of humor.
USA is a strange country in many ways 😂but 90%of the music I love and listen to are American. Starting with the blues and all that evolved from that,love Zappa R . I . P ❤
They always have nostalgia for it, but they always attack anything new while it's happening.
Finest composer and Axe-God I know of: dead or alive.
No kidding...
The coherence and length of the convo, longer than any latenight segment from my time. Fewer ads. This is why podcasts blew up people!
Zappas albums are a combination of music and comedy.
with some musical genius mixed in.
@@EdWeibe I like The Adventures of Greggory Peccary from the Studio Tan Album. The worlds most gregarious wild swine.
When I first saw him, I was like "What's the big deal with Frank Zappa?". Then I listened to it and said "What is that?". Then I studied jazz fusion and I understood immediately that Frank Zappa was a genius. I was blindsided by the understanding of what he was doing after listening to some really crazy jazz bands. They way he branched off was unique. I don't know if Frank influenced the bands I saw, but there are some quirky jazz musicians in NYC. I met everyone while studying drums with John Favicchia.
April, 3rd is my birthday. I was 16.
Nuff said Frank. Well said. Amen.
Two huge national treasures who gave us lots of pleasure in a usually humorless place.
His gift was to take his guest and bring out the best. He didn't overshadow, or dominate, he turned each interview so the best light would be cast upon the desk. I remember that crap "wives of Washington" they made incredible fools of themselves. They didn't count on Zappa, Dee, and Ted Nugent to be much smarter than they were, OZZY had very similar views, but was not a good choice to appear, his attention span was short and he would get up and wander around. Those who appeared were proud of their music and stood by it. They were gentleman, very smart, rich gentleman
John Denver was the lynch pin. They committee thought Denver would support them, and he totally destroyed them during his testimony. But yeah, they thought they had "dumb" rock musicians and found out each of them was very intelligent and well spoken.
Zappa was the coolest
So cool. Never seen this one. If FZ was around now he would actually have a good chance of being elected president.
He would get my vote,...for sure!
If only frank was around today. Can you imagine his commentary of this clown show we are having to live through???
We need George Carlin back too.
@@garybankston9319 I was literally going to say this reading the original comment. Could you imagine the field day these two would be having with the clown fiesta american politics have turned into.
I like how you give the model number of your VCR. Now that's an important detail. 😂
I was impressed that he remembered that detail so many years later!
Thank you Frank for all that you did to save us from ourselves.
LOL Nobody got saved by him.
Yakov Smirnov and Katrina and the Waves ha ha ha . . . holy 1980s!!
Back in the early 90's I was a diesel mechanic at night. After midnight uncle Egor would come on and they would play some of Frank's songs. Also Arlo Guthrie, Iron Butterfly and all kinds of other little dittys. My favorite was the fish head song!
Frank was brilliant and really put the tighty righties in their place.
Oh how he would have despised the self-righteous Wokies of our time.
@@neiljohnson7914 yeah he did that a lot in his own time, the point is frank saw through both sides' bullshit
The "tighty righty" he put in his place during those Senate hearings was Al Gore. It was his wife who pushed those hearings and simping Al was happy to comply. Frank and Dee smoked them though.
@@seanm241 A lot like Bill maher
Except it's now left trying to censor #FreeSpeech
Great job Jonny 💯👍 thanks again Frank 😁
Thank-you for this.
You're welcome.
Thanks for watching.
Great googly moogly!!!!!
Intelligent television discourse, the likes of which we don't see today.
This is AWESOME! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks for watching!
Johnny has no idea that's really Mike Nesmith in disguise.
All Frank needs here is a green beanie 👲 just like Mike Nesmith's
🎶 🐒 💚 🎸 👲 🎶
🐒
or Ringo Starr
Or Sasha B Cohen.
Johnny had a brain. He’s right about pornography. The only definition that has any merit (and not much) is: “it’s impossible to define pornography but you know it when you see it.” Imagine applying such a loose concept to music. Frank was a great champion of freedom of thought and speech and knew the censors were crypto fascists who wanted everyone in lock step.
Huge thumbs up for 60p so we can see all the original fields intact.
Johnny was pretty smart.
Great gem from the past. Thank You.
Great archive, for sure! I miss Frank being around.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING !!!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Thats a damn good quality video for a VHS.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very pleasantly surprised at how civil and sympathetic Johnny is towards Mr. Zappa and his beliefs!
Saw this when it first ran. Was hoping there would be a follow-up conversation. FZ did return a couple of years later when Leno was on, but nothing came out of this talk. Kind of disappointed it didn't happen.
I had hoped Carson would let FZ come back and direct the band when Doc was away.
@@rerite2 Although Frank was more than capable, I don't think that's a gig he would have accepted.
Zappa with Steve Allen in 1963 is entertaining as well.
What a beautiful man
I unconditionally love him.
He cleans up nicely.
Johnny was ultra-hip and cool always to the very end
They're not gonna unemploy themselves.
ahead of his time
Very true. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Yes, he was incredibly intelligent and wildly creative when it came to his art.
@@Rob_Kates He sure was. Thanks for watching and youre comments.
Carson was class
Miss both those guys
You are 100% correct! All the better to cover their tracks, my dear.
Imagine what frank would think about what’s happening these days in the world !
Who knows. Many of the artists who were about fighting the machine have had no problems fighting for the machine nowadays.
Imagine what would happen if the world would listen and learn from someone as wise as Mr Zappa
@patrick occhino
No doubt! In one of his "lost interviews" he said by the year 3000 they wouldn't be any more humans, just bacteria or slugs or something and he said he would'nt use words because they probably wouldn't understand:) HA! FZ started making Jiberish sounds. Hell, he was about 975 years off IMO....
@@cchavezjr7 agree 100% 👍
@@mikedavis6884 😂😂 👍
Johnny wanted to say "moral obligation" and the answer is "NO; musicians DO NOT have a moral obligation to censor their lyrics."
Yea "moral right" doesn't really make sense. But Frank knew exactly what he meant, he was a sharp mind
Frank Zappa was an idol of mine while I was attending the Wisconsin Conservatory of Music. I liked what he did and asked a professor, whom I studied composition, about Zappa. He said that Zappa's personality was what helped him as a composer and musician. I admired him for his compositional skills and his self education. He also created interesting albums. I thought them funny and the music interesting. His sound was original: interspersed with classical music and Rock originality. A teacher assistant, at the University of Redlands, called Zappa and Frank took the call. My composition teacher at Redlands, attended a meeting of the Society of University Composers and said Zappa, the guest speaker, scolded them a bit. Frank had been critical of the total serial and indeterminate dialectic that boxed them into choices that Zappa did not respect. My composition professor was an idol of mine as well. A tough intellectual with sensitive side.
One thing I was miffed by was Zappa's piece about "Broken 💔 are for Assholes."
Idol, not idle.
I love the story of the asuc convention speech. read it sometime it's so ballsy. He was an original for sure
Thanks for sharing your story.
@@martins.7060 yes, idol, thanks.
I never realized how much I miss Carson and Leno and Letterman and even O'Brien until after they were retired.
Zappa was a genius
And a very funny one at that.
Yup. And his music was nearly unlistenable because of it.
a genius would have known pop music would be destroyed when the restraints he fought were lifted
@@whiskeymonk4085 only to low I.Q. people who couldn't understand anything that isn't in 4/4
Johnny took a big risk having Zappa on. They both seem a bit uncomfortable,but Frank had that unique wit.That was a time when they were seriously thinking of censoring lyrics. I doubt we would have a song called W.A.P. if it wasn't for some recording artists. I thought some of this started with OZZY. Suicide Solution.
And 2LiveCrew Pop That Cherry.
I think the risk was less Frank's opinions, and more allowing an intellectual discussion of any kind to go on for 7 minutes given the show's format in 1986. 15 years earlier, when the show was 90 minutes and slower paced and routinely had authors on, Frank would have fit perfectly.