Frank was quite possibly the most intellectual musician in American music. He almost certainly was the most varied and accomplished composer in American history. He wrote opera, symphonies, and instrumental pieces that were entirely written out, every note, every instrument. An amazing guy who could certainly be described as an American Treasure.
Written out, every note, every instrument is how every single orchestral composer in history has done it. Zappa was remarkable but don't give him extra credit for engaging in necessary common practice.
This is surreal, and I believe that it's the only time it ever happened: Carson could be (among many other things) a brilliant interviewer, and Zappa was a polymath, and a champion of Individual Liberty. God Bless them both.
"Please welcome Frank Zappa, who asked to be introduced as a national treasure, but we know he's just a musician!" - Funniest thing about it is that he was/is a national treasure! We miss you Frank! RIP
I find it shocking to hear such a polite, well informed and intelligent discussion on a late night television show. Those days are long gone. Johnny was the best!
Yeah right !🙄 there's a writers strike right now genius. You're just mad because those shows make you feel (rightfully)like a dipshit , because of your shitty politics! Wah way they don't like the shittiest president in history!😭😭😭😭😭😭
Johnny comes across sincerely impressed and respectful of Frank, while Frank appears ever so slightly intimidated by Johnny. I would be, too, only, I've never seen it in Frank before. Nothing to be ashamed of. Johnny was the greatest of them all and his show the model for all that came after it, not to mention being a Los Angeles icon of the greatest possible magnitude. 🎸
As far as I know, Johnny liked Frank, and he loved Chuck Berry but not many others. I think allot of the rock stars of that time period didn't give Johnny a chance.
As relevant in 2023 as it was back then! Johnny is a class act, and is having an intelligent conversation with Frank. You would not see such things on "late night" TV today! Thanks for posting!
Huge Zappa fan who was lucky enough to see him live here. I had NO CLUE he was on the Carson show! David Letterman and others yeah. But Johnny? Don't know how I missed this. How cool. Thanks for posting.
Wanting to call FZ an American Treasure, okay, but the greatest compliment one could give the man is simply that which speaks the simple truth. Frank Zappa: American Composer.
I had absolutely no idea that FRANK ZAPPA appeared on the tonight show starring Johnny Carson.he appeared on other talk shows throughout his life and stuff like that but not THE TONIGHT SHOW,this is the first time I've seen this.FRANK ZAPPA having a casual chat about cenership with JOHNNY CARSON? very interesting.R.I.P to both Frank and Johnny.
"Zappa and Carlin"? Brilliant... Two icons from the same generation that could not be further from one another on the spectrum of entertainment. One is a musical composer and the other is a standup comedian. The things they do have in common with each other is that they are both vocal against government and they are both decomposers.
Johnny Carson had skills to delve into the censorship topic with Frank right away, and then let Frank do the talking. He was a graceful host and you could tell he would’ve talked with Frank all night.
You can tell that Frank respected Johnny and the show. Wearing a nice suit. Even a rebel and person viewed as “Anti Establishment “ had enough class and respect to dress presentable on TV. Looked nice. Like a Lawyer. Ha!!!
I was 15 years old when the whole PMRC censorship thing went down and remember watching Frank and Dee snider go against them and it was awesome. The coolest and best thing about them putting parental advisory stickers on the albums just made us kids want to buy them even more and we did. I wore a Guns N’ Roses shirt to school and it had the classic scene with the half naked girl on the shirt and I was told to turn it inside out or go home. I lived right behind the school so I just went home lol. Those were great memories and the 80’s was the best times of my life. 🤘🏼✌🏼
One of the great things about Carson... He had the grapefruits to do guests and material that challenged the status quo or the stick up the tailpipe types. Definitely not something you'll see on the mainstream anymore.
When an interviewer gave Frank respect, he invariably returned it. You can see it here, and I remember another with Michael Douglas back in the day. What a genius. We lost him too soon.
Back in the early 90's I was a diesel mechanic at night. After midnight uncle Egor would come on and they would play some of Frank's songs. Also Arlo Guthrie, Iron Butterfly and all kinds of other little dittys. My favorite was the fish head song!
Honesty, integrity, intelligence and talent is a dangerous combination...to some people. To others it is embodied in Frank Zappa and his music and public service.
When I first saw him, I was like "What's the big deal with Frank Zappa?". Then I listened to it and said "What is that?". Then I studied jazz fusion and I understood immediately that Frank Zappa was a genius. I was blindsided by the understanding of what he was doing after listening to some really crazy jazz bands. They way he branched off was unique. I don't know if Frank influenced the bands I saw, but there are some quirky jazz musicians in NYC. I met everyone while studying drums with John Favicchia. April, 3rd is my birthday. I was 16.
@@garybankston9319 I was literally going to say this reading the original comment. Could you imagine the field day these two would be having with the clown fiesta american politics have turned into.
USA is a strange country in many ways 😂but 90%of the music I love and listen to are American. Starting with the blues and all that evolved from that,love Zappa R . I . P ❤
Johnny had a brain. He’s right about pornography. The only definition that has any merit (and not much) is: “it’s impossible to define pornography but you know it when you see it.” Imagine applying such a loose concept to music. Frank was a great champion of freedom of thought and speech and knew the censors were crypto fascists who wanted everyone in lock step.
Saw this when it first ran. Was hoping there would be a follow-up conversation. FZ did return a couple of years later when Leno was on, but nothing came out of this talk. Kind of disappointed it didn't happen.
His gift was to take his guest and bring out the best. He didn't overshadow, or dominate, he turned each interview so the best light would be cast upon the desk. I remember that crap "wives of Washington" they made incredible fools of themselves. They didn't count on Zappa, Dee, and Ted Nugent to be much smarter than they were, OZZY had very similar views, but was not a good choice to appear, his attention span was short and he would get up and wander around. Those who appeared were proud of their music and stood by it. They were gentleman, very smart, rich gentleman
John Denver was the lynch pin. They committee thought Denver would support them, and he totally destroyed them during his testimony. But yeah, they thought they had "dumb" rock musicians and found out each of them was very intelligent and well spoken.
It's remarkable how much, except for the mustache, Zappa resembles his 1963 self when he appeared on Steve Allen's show [available elsewhere on RUclips].
Frank Zappa was an idol of mine while I was attending the Wisconsin Conservatory of Music. I liked what he did and asked a professor, whom I studied composition, about Zappa. He said that Zappa's personality was what helped him as a composer and musician. I admired him for his compositional skills and his self education. He also created interesting albums. I thought them funny and the music interesting. His sound was original: interspersed with classical music and Rock originality. A teacher assistant, at the University of Redlands, called Zappa and Frank took the call. My composition teacher at Redlands, attended a meeting of the Society of University Composers and said Zappa, the guest speaker, scolded them a bit. Frank had been critical of the total serial and indeterminate dialectic that boxed them into choices that Zappa did not respect. My composition professor was an idol of mine as well. A tough intellectual with sensitive side. One thing I was miffed by was Zappa's piece about "Broken 💔 are for Assholes."
“Censors will not fire themselves, they will keep on looking for things to censor”. It couldn’t be more actual Frank, if you would still be around, you would be shocked about the level of censorship currently applied.
@@DRAMericA1 No doubt! In one of his "lost interviews" he said by the year 3000 they wouldn't be any more humans, just bacteria or slugs or something and he said he would'nt use words because they probably wouldn't understand:) HA! FZ started making Jiberish sounds. Hell, he was about 975 years off IMO....
I miss this man’s so much I wish I could’ve thanked him for the fight he did to protect our rights 🙏🏻 I thanked Dee Snider some people think that heavy metal 🎸 music is bad I say BS sometimes music calms the savage beast I went through a very difficult time in my teens and music 🎶 helped me so very much I to this day turn to music 🎶 when having difficulty’s in life some people turn to drugs/alcohol I turn to music it’s really not a bad thing music not like drugs/alcohol
I saw the Mothers and the Mahavishnu Orchestra in a double bill on Mother's Day, 1973. The Mothers had Jean-Luc Ponty on violin. The Mothers blew the MO out of the water.
The "tighty righty" he put in his place during those Senate hearings was Al Gore. It was his wife who pushed those hearings and simping Al was happy to comply. Frank and Dee smoked them though.
Johnny took a big risk having Zappa on. They both seem a bit uncomfortable,but Frank had that unique wit.That was a time when they were seriously thinking of censoring lyrics. I doubt we would have a song called W.A.P. if it wasn't for some recording artists. I thought some of this started with OZZY. Suicide Solution. And 2LiveCrew Pop That Cherry.
I think the risk was less Frank's opinions, and more allowing an intellectual discussion of any kind to go on for 7 minutes given the show's format in 1986. 15 years earlier, when the show was 90 minutes and slower paced and routinely had authors on, Frank would have fit perfectly.
At the risk of sounding like the geezer that I am, I'd like to ask anyone reading this to imagine such a discussion in today's late night talk show environment. You can't do it, can you?
You Can't Do That On Talk Shows Anymore You know who did great interviews? Dick Cavett. Frank did his show in 1980. Very in-depth and "discussion" oriented as opposed to silly banter.
It was great to see Johnny and Ed show Frank such respect.
I could listen to Frank talk for hours. He was a genius in more ways than just music.
Johnny is even cooler than I remember because I'd never have imagined him having Frank on.
Frank was quite possibly the most intellectual musician in American music. He almost certainly was the most varied and accomplished composer in American history. He wrote opera, symphonies, and instrumental pieces that were entirely written out, every note, every instrument. An amazing guy who could certainly be described as an American Treasure.
Thank you for your comments!
And in the 21st Century nobody has even come close to ZAPPA'S intelligence, AMAZING musical genius.
ROCK IN PEACE FRANCESCO ZAPPA 😎✌
Why does someone have to be the most? There is no "most" intellectual musician in American music.
Indeed
Written out, every note, every instrument is how every single orchestral composer in history has done it.
Zappa was remarkable but don't give him extra credit for engaging in necessary common practice.
A real conversation about a real issue: censorship. I wish there were conversations of this depth and substance on TV every day.
These old clips make Frank Zappa look prophetic today, but the truth is that real wisdom is timeless.
And real wisdom takes time.
This is surreal, and I believe that it's the only time it ever happened:
Carson could be (among many other things) a brilliant interviewer, and Zappa was a polymath, and a champion of Individual Liberty.
God Bless them both.
"Please welcome Frank Zappa, who asked to be introduced as a national treasure, but we know he's just a musician!" - Funniest thing about it is that he was/is a national treasure! We miss you Frank! RIP
The last honest man.
Frank was more of an universal treasure…
National Treasure hahaha 😆
Same for Johnny.
That's when America was Great! ❤ Zappa, Johnny Carson, ZZ-TOP....
I find it shocking to hear such a polite, well informed and intelligent discussion on a late night television show. Those days are long gone. Johnny was the best!
Yeah right!🙄 Because that's all you hear on Greg gutfield! Pfft. What a bitch
Yeah right !🙄 there's a writers strike right now genius. You're just mad because those shows make you feel (rightfully)like a dipshit , because of your shitty politics! Wah way they don't like the shittiest president in history!😭😭😭😭😭😭
Really nice to see the respect that they gave each other and to see Frank smile at the conclusion.
Just when you have Johnny Carson figure it out he blows your mind also he really Was intrigued with Frank Zappa
Johnny comes across sincerely impressed and respectful of Frank, while Frank appears ever so slightly intimidated by Johnny. I would be, too, only, I've never seen it in Frank before. Nothing to be ashamed of. Johnny was the greatest of them all and his show the model for all that came after it, not to mention being a Los Angeles icon of the greatest possible magnitude. 🎸
As far as I know, Johnny liked Frank, and he loved Chuck Berry but not many others. I think allot of the rock stars of that time period didn't give Johnny a chance.
Frank was always spot on. Listening to him is fascinating!!
damn, carson was astute enough to know it when he saw it. the PMRC testimony is, indeed, fascinating. one of the great moments in american history
Johnny's approach to Zappa really shows his mastery of interviewing
As relevant in 2023 as it was back then! Johnny is a class act, and is having an intelligent conversation with Frank. You would not see such things on "late night" TV today! Thanks for posting!
Huge Zappa fan who was lucky enough to see him live here. I had NO CLUE he was on the Carson show! David Letterman and others yeah. But Johnny? Don't know how I missed this. How cool. Thanks for posting.
You're welcome. Thanks for Watching!
Wanting to call FZ an American Treasure, okay, but the greatest compliment one could give the man is simply that which speaks the simple truth. Frank Zappa: American Composer.
I had absolutely no idea that FRANK ZAPPA appeared on the tonight show starring Johnny Carson.he appeared on other talk shows throughout his life and stuff like that but not THE TONIGHT SHOW,this is the first time I've seen this.FRANK ZAPPA having a casual chat about cenership with JOHNNY CARSON? very interesting.R.I.P to both Frank and Johnny.
Zappa is the most famous musician whose music has only been heard by other musicians
Johnny was open to more than we thought.
He was a drummer, and apparently a very good one. And the drums were Frank's first instrument.
Zappa and Carlin icons of a generation.
"Zappa and Carlin"? Brilliant... Two icons from the same generation that could not be further from one another on the spectrum of entertainment. One is a musical composer and the other is a standup comedian. The things they do have in common with each other is that they are both vocal against government and they are both decomposers.
Johnny Carson had skills to delve into the censorship topic with Frank right away, and then let Frank do the talking. He was a graceful host and you could tell he would’ve talked with Frank all night.
Carson was a class act. Zappa, I realized in my latter years, was a genius
R.I.P. Frank Zappa ! One who lead his time and brought out others to do in same.
The world became just a little less safe and worse off when FZ died. We need him now more than ever.
This is great. Thanks for posting.
Johnny was the best and it's so nice to see him with Frank.
You're welcome 😊
Johnny was class
The coherence and length of the convo, longer than any latenight segment from my time. Fewer ads. This is why podcasts blew up people!
Greatest national treasurer ever.
Love, love, love, Zappa, but the U.S. also produced Mark Twain, James Baldwin, the Eurythmics, Glenn Greenwald, and Negativland.
Just want to show my appreciation for everything you've shared throughout the years Lagz.. outstanding, Thank you.
You're welcome. Happy to share.
What’s funny is that the first Album to get the lyric warning label, was Zappas Jazz from Hell… an instrumental album with no lyrics at all
Well said Mr. Frank. And kudos to Johnny. I had no idea he was so enlightened on the subject of censorship.
Carson demonstrates why he was so brilliant.
2 Of the biggest talents ever,.. in their respected businesses
I appreciate the pace so much....Nowadays everything is so rushed. Johnny lets him talk, it's an actual conversation.
Frank Zappa...The first "freak musician" to move to Laurel Canyon...and the first to leave. Always a few steps ahead of the crowd..😎
Well said. Thanks for sharing!
He was put there by the establishment.
You can tell that Frank respected Johnny and the show. Wearing a nice suit. Even a rebel and person viewed as “Anti Establishment “ had enough class and respect to dress presentable on TV. Looked nice. Like a Lawyer. Ha!!!
He was a National Treasure.
Wish he was still here.
Indeed. Instead we're stuck with Jimmy Fallon.
Seen 'em 5 times at the Uptown Theater in Chicago. 3 hour shows for like 6.50 a ticket. Tripping .....
Damn you. When brain dumping into another happens, I wanna tap in to yours for that. I'll give you 7.00.
Frank Zappa was brilliant, besides all his other talents he also had a great sense of humor.
I was 15 years old when the whole PMRC censorship thing went down and remember watching Frank and Dee snider go against them and it was awesome. The coolest and best thing about them putting parental advisory stickers on the albums just made us kids want to buy them even more and we did. I wore a Guns N’ Roses shirt to school and it had the classic scene with the half naked girl on the shirt and I was told to turn it inside out or go home. I lived right behind the school so I just went home lol. Those were great memories and the 80’s was the best times of my life. 🤘🏼✌🏼
Dude... same...I was glued to those hearings- i was home with mono for 2 months!
"Think of the kids!" has often been the excuse for censorship by people who treat kids like property, or worse... generally worse.
looking back, Frank had a loooong history with television appearances on late night shows. All the way back to Steve Allen.
Wasn't he playing on a bike tire?
@@progger53 Yep. 1963.
One of the great things about Carson...
He had the grapefruits to do guests and material that challenged the status quo or the stick up the tailpipe types.
Definitely not something you'll see on the mainstream anymore.
When an interviewer gave Frank respect, he invariably returned it. You can see it here, and I remember another with Michael Douglas back in the day. What a genius. We lost him too soon.
Honey honey aye, baby don't want a man like me ... ("Give him respect, he returns it.")
Back in the early 90's I was a diesel mechanic at night. After midnight uncle Egor would come on and they would play some of Frank's songs. Also Arlo Guthrie, Iron Butterfly and all kinds of other little dittys. My favorite was the fish head song!
Frank was a musical genius and a funny man.
And he DID manage to make a pornographic music track..
"The torture Never Stops"???? filth.. LOL😅
Johnny Carson is the best interviewer of all time
And Frank Zappa is the best interviewee.
Goddamn I miss Frank -- and Johnny too
Honesty, integrity, intelligence and talent is a dangerous combination...to some people. To others it is embodied in Frank Zappa and his music and public service.
😂😂😂
Frank Zappa was one of the greatest Americans
When I first saw him, I was like "What's the big deal with Frank Zappa?". Then I listened to it and said "What is that?". Then I studied jazz fusion and I understood immediately that Frank Zappa was a genius. I was blindsided by the understanding of what he was doing after listening to some really crazy jazz bands. They way he branched off was unique. I don't know if Frank influenced the bands I saw, but there are some quirky jazz musicians in NYC. I met everyone while studying drums with John Favicchia.
April, 3rd is my birthday. I was 16.
Blimey - intelligent conversation on a chat show where the guest ISN'T plugging their latest film/TV Programme or record.
1:00 what was that?
But Zappa was a national treasure. Yet...another country made him their Minister Of Culture.
Zappa was the Minister of Everything!
If only frank was around today. Can you imagine his commentary of this clown show we are having to live through???
We need George Carlin back too.
@@garybankston9319 I was literally going to say this reading the original comment. Could you imagine the field day these two would be having with the clown fiesta american politics have turned into.
He really was a national treasure.
Yes, Johnny really was!
you mean the nation treasurer
itreasureR frank and Jonny moment question did Frank do another appearance on tonight show 🤔
@@steveprudell9976 Yes, when Steve Allen was host in 1963. Nice they had him back after 23 years. ruclips.net/video/QF0PYQ8IOL4/видео.html
USA is a strange country in many ways 😂but 90%of the music I love and listen to are American. Starting with the blues and all that evolved from that,love Zappa R . I . P ❤
They always have nostalgia for it, but they always attack anything new while it's happening.
I like how you give the model number of your VCR. Now that's an important detail. 😂
I was impressed that he remembered that detail so many years later!
Johnny was ultra-hip and cool always to the very end
Finest composer and Axe-God I know of: dead or alive.
No kidding...
Johnny had a brain. He’s right about pornography. The only definition that has any merit (and not much) is: “it’s impossible to define pornography but you know it when you see it.” Imagine applying such a loose concept to music. Frank was a great champion of freedom of thought and speech and knew the censors were crypto fascists who wanted everyone in lock step.
Very pleasantly surprised at how civil and sympathetic Johnny is towards Mr. Zappa and his beliefs!
Two huge national treasures who gave us lots of pleasure in a usually humorless place.
We need Frank NOW
More than ever.
Yakov Smirnov and Katrina and the Waves ha ha ha . . . holy 1980s!!
Huge thumbs up for 60p so we can see all the original fields intact.
Saw this when it first ran. Was hoping there would be a follow-up conversation. FZ did return a couple of years later when Leno was on, but nothing came out of this talk. Kind of disappointed it didn't happen.
I had hoped Carson would let FZ come back and direct the band when Doc was away.
@@rerite2 Although Frank was more than capable, I don't think that's a gig he would have accepted.
Intelligent television discourse, the likes of which we don't see today.
His gift was to take his guest and bring out the best. He didn't overshadow, or dominate, he turned each interview so the best light would be cast upon the desk. I remember that crap "wives of Washington" they made incredible fools of themselves. They didn't count on Zappa, Dee, and Ted Nugent to be much smarter than they were, OZZY had very similar views, but was not a good choice to appear, his attention span was short and he would get up and wander around. Those who appeared were proud of their music and stood by it. They were gentleman, very smart, rich gentleman
John Denver was the lynch pin. They committee thought Denver would support them, and he totally destroyed them during his testimony. But yeah, they thought they had "dumb" rock musicians and found out each of them was very intelligent and well spoken.
It's remarkable how much, except for the mustache, Zappa resembles his 1963 self when he appeared on Steve Allen's show [available elsewhere on RUclips].
Johnny has no idea that's really Mike Nesmith in disguise.
All Frank needs here is a green beanie 👲 just like Mike Nesmith's
🎶 🐒 💚 🎸 👲 🎶
🐒
or Ringo Starr
Or Sasha B Cohen.
Great gem from the past. Thank You.
Thank-you for this.
You're welcome.
Thanks for watching.
So cool. Never seen this one. If FZ was around now he would actually have a good chance of being elected president.
He would get my vote,...for sure!
Zappa was the coolest
This is AWESOME! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks for watching!
Great job Jonny 💯👍 thanks again Frank 😁
Nuff said Frank. Well said. Amen.
Frank Zappa was an idol of mine while I was attending the Wisconsin Conservatory of Music. I liked what he did and asked a professor, whom I studied composition, about Zappa. He said that Zappa's personality was what helped him as a composer and musician. I admired him for his compositional skills and his self education. He also created interesting albums. I thought them funny and the music interesting. His sound was original: interspersed with classical music and Rock originality. A teacher assistant, at the University of Redlands, called Zappa and Frank took the call. My composition teacher at Redlands, attended a meeting of the Society of University Composers and said Zappa, the guest speaker, scolded them a bit. Frank had been critical of the total serial and indeterminate dialectic that boxed them into choices that Zappa did not respect. My composition professor was an idol of mine as well. A tough intellectual with sensitive side.
One thing I was miffed by was Zappa's piece about "Broken 💔 are for Assholes."
Idol, not idle.
I love the story of the asuc convention speech. read it sometime it's so ballsy. He was an original for sure
Thanks for sharing your story.
@@martins.7060 yes, idol, thanks.
Frank Zappa….IS…. a national treasure
True Frank, the thin end of the wedge. What insight, that we see what Frank foresaw about censorship is playing out now.
Zappa with Steve Allen in 1963 is entertaining as well.
“Censors will not fire themselves, they will keep on looking for things to censor”. It couldn’t be more actual Frank, if you would still be around, you would be shocked about the level of censorship currently applied.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING !!!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Imagine what frank would think about what’s happening these days in the world !
Who knows. Many of the artists who were about fighting the machine have had no problems fighting for the machine nowadays.
Imagine what would happen if the world would listen and learn from someone as wise as Mr Zappa
@@DRAMericA1
No doubt! In one of his "lost interviews" he said by the year 3000 they wouldn't be any more humans, just bacteria or slugs or something and he said he would'nt use words because they probably wouldn't understand:) HA! FZ started making Jiberish sounds. Hell, he was about 975 years off IMO....
@@cchavezjr7 agree 100% 👍
@@mikedavis6884 😂😂 👍
Thats a damn good quality video for a VHS.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
They're not gonna unemploy themselves.
Miss both those guys
I miss this man’s so much I wish I could’ve thanked him for the fight he did to protect our rights 🙏🏻 I thanked Dee Snider some people think that heavy metal 🎸 music is bad I say BS sometimes music calms the savage beast I went through a very difficult time in my teens and music 🎶 helped me so very much I to this day turn to music 🎶 when having difficulty’s in life some people turn to drugs/alcohol I turn to music it’s really not a bad thing music not like drugs/alcohol
I miss Frank AS the Lord just I miss Mom rock on Frank's up his music I'm still learning
I saw the Mothers and the Mahavishnu Orchestra in a double bill on Mother's Day, 1973. The Mothers had Jean-Luc Ponty on violin. The Mothers blew the MO out of the water.
Damn! Where did that take place? Surely not Kansas City.
@@intomnia3313 Cincinatti
You are one of the luckiest people on earth
Frank was brilliant and really put the tighty righties in their place.
Oh how he would have despised the self-righteous Wokies of our time.
@@neiljohnson7914 yeah he did that a lot in his own time, the point is frank saw through both sides' bullshit
The "tighty righty" he put in his place during those Senate hearings was Al Gore. It was his wife who pushed those hearings and simping Al was happy to comply. Frank and Dee smoked them though.
@@seanm241 A lot like Bill maher
Except it's now left trying to censor #FreeSpeech
Johnny took a big risk having Zappa on. They both seem a bit uncomfortable,but Frank had that unique wit.That was a time when they were seriously thinking of censoring lyrics. I doubt we would have a song called W.A.P. if it wasn't for some recording artists. I thought some of this started with OZZY. Suicide Solution.
And 2LiveCrew Pop That Cherry.
I think the risk was less Frank's opinions, and more allowing an intellectual discussion of any kind to go on for 7 minutes given the show's format in 1986. 15 years earlier, when the show was 90 minutes and slower paced and routinely had authors on, Frank would have fit perfectly.
He cleans up nicely.
Imagine what Frank and Johnny would think of what's going on in the States today, the would have made a great president and vice prez.
Great archive, for sure! I miss Frank being around.
Johnny was pretty smart.
At the risk of sounding like the geezer that I am, I'd like to ask anyone reading this to imagine such a discussion in today's late night talk show environment. You can't do it, can you?
You Can't Do That On Talk Shows Anymore
You know who did great interviews? Dick Cavett. Frank did his show in 1980.
Very in-depth and "discussion" oriented as opposed to silly banter.
If I'm the host...it happens🎉
“Moving to Montana soon..gonna be a dental floss tycoon”❤️