That cooler is using what is called a peltier device in the center section which isn't a new techology and has been around for many decades. I remember even buying one that was designed for a cpu cooler back in the 486 days. The problem with peltier devices is that they are not very efficient and because you can't get something for nothing, they generate lots of heat on the side opposite the cooling side. Just think about it this way, if peltiers were the greatest cooling devices in the world, they would be used on every cpu an gpu right now.
@@christopherdedeck I think this will be great on a modified DELL XPS laptop because it have a full metal body, when you put thermal putty between cooler and the back case it self it can be it own heatsink.
I think you got the from Zac Builds, right? I was pretty intrigued when you slathered all that thermal putty down. Maybe I will try something like that, however, my main issue is the heat on my SSDs. I think they heat up so much because the lack of airflow in the middle of the laptop chassis. I think if the base was slightly thicker, temps would dwindle significantly. I just do not know how to give that a proper test
@@christopherdedeck IMO direct contact is the only way for that peltier to even do anything. The amount of cold it puts out is so small that there is no way it can significantly cool down airflow from the fans. It is like a refrigerator with the door left open.
@@rflett5797 more contact is definitely a requirement. I have no idea why the pad was not completely flat onto the computer. However, the bits that it did touch was directly under my SSD and it did indeed cool down my SSDs. Typically they would get extremely hot. I really think there’s something here, but it wasn’t done optimally.
Most laptops have the internal coolings where the vents are. If it was in direct contact then it would restrict airflow going into the laptop. Good idea though!
Thinking more about this, the vents suck in air from the far left and right... SO, using a peltier styled cooler in the middle may be game changer. My other thought is that the SSDs get hot and airflow is restricted back there. I think Ill give this a test next: amzn.to/3Pv5QcA
@@christopherdedeck i just remembred the MAC Air laptops which they dont have a fan at all , but they have a big piece of aluminum to cool it down so that cooler fits perfectly
@@christopherdedeck yeah i saw that one also... it looks promising and i believe there was 1 other Peltier / TEC enabled laptop cooling device on amazon. If I find it then i will send you the name
You need to connect the cooler to a 30w usb-c charger, it will provide more power to the peltier and the fans. The laptop or docking station USB ports only provide up to 1Amp.
i just realized that every cooling pad video i saw was from the same exact guy... this man is insane he set out a quest to find the best cooling solution. unhinged, what a madlad.
i think it depends on where the laptop has its airflow holes located. if it happens around where that coolling pad blow its air, it will work perfectly. especially if the airflow holes has in and out circulation synchronize with how the cooling pad works. . cooling the laptop from the touching pad wont work well like how CPU cooler works because they are not materials that spread heat to the bottom. especially if the laptop doesnt have any of its cooling pipe touching the area there
thats true unless you want to have a near ice cold touch pad and keyboard lol.... again i think the issue for him was the rubber feet interfering with making proper contact
Hey! Plug that into a wall charger like a 18 watts because that is a peltier and peltier needs a lot of power and ur laptop port is like 5 to 10 watts only or sometimes 15 but havent seen that kind of laptop port.
If your CPU clocks are changing all the time like most do then a temperature based comparson could be a bit useless. My CPU constantly adjusts its clock speed to manage its temperature so if yours is doing that it could be staying the same temperature but at higher clocks. Your GFX card is also highly likely to be doing the same.
When i was a kid my dad didn't want to get me a new laptop so to fix overheating so i got a big fan then i slided my laptop fan to the edge of the fan and turned the fan I reached 20c
wait, peltier, type C charger is fine but the power's from Laptop's USB? It need more power than laptop's USB power. maybe adapter or fast charging travel adapter. my peltier's phone cooler take around 27W with 9V 3A or 12V 2.5 A. and it gone 0C in just 15 secs.
Smart suggestion, but thats not the case with this one. The USB-C supplies sufficient power, its the USB-B it used that would be the bottleneck. But, its really down the small peltier and the weak fans. They should have made it use a standard wall plug in with larger fans and a larger Peltier cooler.
@@christopherdedeck Thanks for reply! If I am not wrong, on the laptop it was an USB-A port, it is not only usb-C from the source side that can be `power delivery` with high watt?
@@Juvenlus i have the same laptop cooler and instructions say 5V/2.5A or 5V/3.0A power source AND they say to use their usbc to usb cable and they say not to use a fast charging power adapter, which i am currently doing as i dont have anything else to use for the moment -I am using a samsung 5V/2.0A power adapter and the results are not that bad when you figure out the physical position of the laptop to sit directly on top of the cold plate. In some cases the rubber feet maybe need to be removed because direct contact to the cold plate is absolutely required for even minimal results
I'm a Mac guy so forgive me if I am asking a noob question, but are the tempurature readings a built in setting on Windows? My MacBook Pro runs too hot on some games (yes there are some games you can plan on a Mac), so a cooling pad is of interest to me
I'm not a professional or what but from my experience, mac isn't for gaming... well I haven't tried a lot of unit of mac probably 2 units only. But the temps are just awful, when you play high end games. So try to watch a reviews of IETS GT500 or you can go for a GT626 if you have more budget for it. Or Ilano v12 (same performance as GT626)
That was a great little test! I am left thinking however, if the peltier was still cool at the end of testing and your system wasn't, it means the peltier either wasn't making sufficient contact, or not making contact where it needed to. I would love to see you repeat this test in the future maybe with above in mind, and a decibel level wouldn't go amiss either 🙂 Great little channel friend, I subbed to see what you do next!
I found that it was touching the laptop, but the pad itself had a slight curvature, So it wasn't making 100% contact. Nice point, though. I think there is something to this peltier cooler, just needs to be made with higher specs and higher quality
The PC Modder in me goes HUMMMMM.....Looks like there something that can be done with this to improve its performance. Upgrade the Peltier coolers power supply by using a 12 volt power supply (adjustable) and use some foam to form a seal around the laptops bottom to force that cooled air through the laptop. What dod you all think, is it worth doing?
The perltier pad itself doesnt cool the air. The pad is supposed to make full contact with the bottom of you laptop, which is doesnt because it has a slight bow to it. I do agree, however, the peltier should have came with a 12v power supply with stronger fans. That would have gave solid results.
Or, instead of arbitrarily making super thin laptops that don't have any form of real cooling solution under the guys it's to make it slim, giving you terrible cooling and at an extra cost for the form factor, while costing them less to make. Maybe they could actually just make a proper chassis with a proper cooling system. Do you want to know how many gamers who buy gaming laptops specifically want one that's really thin? Almost none. You're buying it two game, you're not buying it to take to your office. And even then you could easily still do it. The real problem here is the fact that people have to accepted the way things are, and nobody speaks up against these so-called gaming laptop companies. Lenovo does a decent job of cooling on a lot of their legion
Peltier cooler works better on cooling toasty hot mobile phones i bought a phone cooler that costs roughly $20 my phone constantly at 45-50C celcius while gaming and it'll start thermal throttling then i put that cooler on my phone and the temperature drops to 38-40C Celcius And peltier cooler works better with high wattage phone chargers I used a 33W Charger on my cooler
TECs aren't efficient in any way shape or form and they're, at best, a marketing gimmick. If you want to know what it takes to ACTUALLY use a TEC effectively in cooling...look at the TEC liquid cooler combo from a few years ago for sub ambient cooling of the i9-10900k CPU. It's called the EK-QuantumX Delta TEC. If you want to effectively cool your laptop, use good thermal compounds, keep room well ventilated, and don't overclock if you don't know what you're doing.
Poor implementation of the tech. The power issue is part of it. 30W peltier at best. Also, they needed to chill the incoming air. The peltier pad is never going to work well. Abs plastic is a poor thermal conductor. Being in the middle most is the air is pulled near to fans near the hinge.
Are you even 1% familiar with technology?.... How else in the world are you supposed to power a cooling device? Literally just use any usb power source ever, if you're shit worried about privacy.
Not all are trash, Flydigi BS1. Aicheson k1 and llano V10 all work. I tried all. I like the BS1 the most because it has very low fan noise and automatic fan speed adjustment
That cooler is using what is called a peltier device in the center section which isn't a new techology and has been around for many decades. I remember even buying one that was designed for a cpu cooler back in the 486 days. The problem with peltier devices is that they are not very efficient and because you can't get something for nothing, they generate lots of heat on the side opposite the cooling side. Just think about it this way, if peltiers were the greatest cooling devices in the world, they would be used on every cpu an gpu right now.
I 100% agree. That is why the peltier module had its own fan! I think there is room for this if the module wasn’t throttled down by using USB power.
@@christopherdedeck I think this will be great on a modified DELL XPS laptop because it have a full metal body, when you put thermal putty between cooler and the back case it self it can be it own heatsink.
I think you got the from Zac Builds, right? I was pretty intrigued when you slathered all that thermal putty down. Maybe I will try something like that, however, my main issue is the heat on my SSDs. I think they heat up so much because the lack of airflow in the middle of the laptop chassis. I think if the base was slightly thicker, temps would dwindle significantly. I just do not know how to give that a proper test
@@christopherdedeck IMO direct contact is the only way for that peltier to even do anything. The amount of cold it puts out is so small that there is no way it can significantly cool down airflow from the fans. It is like a refrigerator with the door left open.
@@rflett5797 more contact is definitely a requirement. I have no idea why the pad was not completely flat onto the computer. However, the bits that it did touch was directly under my SSD and it did indeed cool down my SSDs. Typically they would get extremely hot.
I really think there’s something here, but it wasn’t done optimally.
Your content got me the IETS, absolutely love it. Great work my friend
It is a little loud but beats overheating 10 fold. Thank you Bryan!
This cooler seems to work effectively on laptops that have the bottom panel on contact with the internal cooling
Most laptops have the internal coolings where the vents are. If it was in direct contact then it would restrict airflow going into the laptop. Good idea though!
Thinking more about this, the vents suck in air from the far left and right... SO, using a peltier styled cooler in the middle may be game changer. My other thought is that the SSDs get hot and airflow is restricted back there. I think Ill give this a test next: amzn.to/3Pv5QcA
@@christopherdedeck i just remembred the MAC Air laptops which they dont have a fan at all , but they have a big piece of aluminum to cool it down so that cooler fits perfectly
I hope my wallet is ready for the day when you find the best one. Thanks for your videos, keep up the good work 😊
@@christopherdedeck yeah i saw that one also... it looks promising and i believe there was 1 other Peltier / TEC enabled laptop cooling device on amazon. If I find it then i will send you the name
probably you need to try external high wattage wall adapter. these peltier modules need a lot of juice.
You need to connect the cooler to a 30w usb-c charger, it will provide more power to the peltier and the fans.
The laptop or docking station USB ports only provide up to 1Amp.
i just realized that every cooling pad video i saw was from the same exact guy... this man is insane he set out a quest to find the best cooling solution.
unhinged, what a madlad.
LMAO, I AM GOING CRAZY
@@christopherdedeck recently i bought nvme heatsink cooler with active fan for $20, it quite effective.. try it dude.
i think it depends on where the laptop has its airflow holes located. if it happens around where that coolling pad blow its air, it will work perfectly. especially if the airflow holes has in and out circulation synchronize with how the cooling pad works.
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cooling the laptop from the touching pad wont work well like how CPU cooler works because they are not materials that spread heat to the bottom. especially if the laptop doesnt have any of its cooling pipe touching the area there
thats true unless you want to have a near ice cold touch pad and keyboard lol.... again i think the issue for him was the rubber feet interfering with making proper contact
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Hey! Plug that into a wall charger like a 18 watts because that is a peltier and peltier needs a lot of power and ur laptop port is like 5 to 10 watts only or sometimes 15 but havent seen that kind of laptop port.
Use a phone charger
would you reccomend this to me for my redmagic tab cooling?
bro nice vid! What's the name of your laptop stand?
If your CPU clocks are changing all the time like most do then a temperature based comparson could be a bit useless.
My CPU constantly adjusts its clock speed to manage its temperature so if yours is doing that it could be staying the same temperature but at higher clocks.
Your GFX card is also highly likely to be doing the same.
When i was a kid my dad didn't want to get me a new laptop so to fix overheating so i got a big fan then i slided my laptop fan to the edge of the fan and turned the fan I reached 20c
wait, peltier, type C charger is fine but the power's from Laptop's USB? It need more power than laptop's USB power. maybe adapter or fast charging travel adapter. my peltier's phone cooler take around 27W with 9V 3A or 12V 2.5 A. and it gone 0C in just 15 secs.
Exactly, they missed the mark here. They should have made it a full 120v
Perfect cooler for my MacBook Air
Peltier cooler only works with metal build laptop like the MacBook, it doesn't blow cool air but conduct heats
Big question, on end of the video and work on gt500...
You turned it off, because it was overheating laptop soo badly ????????
I think you should try with an external charger instead of plugging on the laptop, it may be power limited
Smart suggestion, but thats not the case with this one. The USB-C supplies sufficient power, its the USB-B it used that would be the bottleneck. But, its really down the small peltier and the weak fans. They should have made it use a standard wall plug in with larger fans and a larger Peltier cooler.
@@christopherdedeck Thanks for reply! If I am not wrong, on the laptop it was an USB-A port, it is not only usb-C from the source side that can be `power delivery` with high watt?
@@Juvenlus i have the same laptop cooler and instructions say 5V/2.5A or 5V/3.0A power source AND they say to use their usbc to usb cable and they say not to use a fast charging power adapter, which i am currently doing as i dont have anything else to use for the moment -I am using a samsung 5V/2.0A power adapter and the results are not that bad when you figure out the physical position of the laptop to sit directly on top of the cold plate. In some cases the rubber feet maybe need to be removed because direct contact to the cold plate is absolutely required for even minimal results
I'm a Mac guy so forgive me if I am asking a noob question, but are the tempurature readings a built in setting on Windows? My MacBook Pro runs too hot on some games (yes there are some games you can plan on a Mac), so a cooling pad is of interest to me
I'm not a professional or what but from my experience, mac isn't for gaming... well I haven't tried a lot of unit of mac probably 2 units only. But the temps are just awful, when you play high end games.
So try to watch a reviews of IETS GT500 or you can go for a GT626 if you have more budget for it. Or Ilano v12 (same performance as GT626)
That was a great little test! I am left thinking however, if the peltier was still cool at the end of testing and your system wasn't, it means the peltier either wasn't making sufficient contact, or not making contact where it needed to. I would love to see you repeat this test in the future maybe with above in mind, and a decibel level wouldn't go amiss either 🙂
Great little channel friend, I subbed to see what you do next!
I found that it was touching the laptop, but the pad itself had a slight curvature, So it wasn't making 100% contact. Nice point, though. I think there is something to this peltier cooler, just needs to be made with higher specs and higher quality
They need to work on a freezing pad/fans for laptops
you must test the cooler using thermal camera
what app are you using to measure the temps
MSI Afterburner for CPU/GPu temps and Disk Drill for SSD temps
Bro have you considered repasting. Those temps look insane :(
Hello @Christopher DeDecker , I use the external monitor to power the laptop cooler, is this better?
What is the name of the laptop?
This is the exact Laptop I bought mine from (I bought it refurbished):
amzn.to/3IkdbaJ
@@christopherdedeck thanks man ✌
This would be good for a thermal pad modded macbook air but anything else probably not
Maybe a iPad Pro used for drawing maybe?
Yeah I'm prob gnne get the IETS alep prob
The PC Modder in me goes HUMMMMM.....Looks like there something that can be done with this to improve its performance. Upgrade the Peltier coolers power supply by using a 12 volt power supply (adjustable) and use some foam to form a seal around the laptops bottom to force that cooled air through the laptop. What dod you all think, is it worth doing?
The perltier pad itself doesnt cool the air. The pad is supposed to make full contact with the bottom of you laptop, which is doesnt because it has a slight bow to it. I do agree, however, the peltier should have came with a 12v power supply with stronger fans. That would have gave solid results.
@@christopherdedeck that would be interesting
Laptops wouldnt need a cooler if the design isnt stupidly slim.
Yup. I was thinking about finding a way to 3D print a larger shell to try it out, but I am unsure how to go about that
Honestly, I could probably remove the back portion and place it on my IETS GT500 and it should have a simialr effect.
iets gt500 or petier ? Whats your recomendo please?
IETS GT500 for sure
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which MSI laptop is that and specs...?
MSI Creator 15 with the 3080.
Is that a gigabyte g5 laptop? It looks a lot like my g5ke.
No, I ahve the MSI Creator 15. The Gig looks pretty sick though! Its a pretty good price too, I am impressed!
I was looking for this content
Same with me bro
Thanks man.
Or, instead of arbitrarily making super thin laptops that don't have any form of real cooling solution under the guys it's to make it slim, giving you terrible cooling and at an extra cost for the form factor, while costing them less to make.
Maybe they could actually just make a proper chassis with a proper cooling system.
Do you want to know how many gamers who buy gaming laptops specifically want one that's really thin? Almost none.
You're buying it two game, you're not buying it to take to your office. And even then you could easily still do it.
The real problem here is the fact that people have to accepted the way things are, and nobody speaks up against these so-called gaming laptop companies. Lenovo does a decent job of cooling on a lot of their legion
good video bro.
Thank you man!
Peltier cooler works better on cooling toasty hot mobile phones
i bought a phone cooler that costs roughly $20
my phone constantly at 45-50C celcius while gaming and it'll start thermal throttling
then i put that cooler on my phone
and the temperature drops to 38-40C Celcius
And peltier cooler works better with high wattage phone chargers I used a 33W Charger on my cooler
Ngl 80° in the room would kill me. I gotta be 66-70°
I have a strong feeling with the design of the cooler that it isn't made for gamers, compared to the LLANO and GT coolers
Helpful video, thanks for making. If you could summarize the info in a clear table at the end it would be even more helpful!!
Not a bad idea.
158*F is *not* 7*C.. it’s 70*C
had me worried since 7 is below room temp
Oh geez, I don’t remember saying that 😂 oops!
bro saying that 26 degree celcius in a room is preety hot . lol I live where its normally 34-38 degrees
26 is My AC in summer
TECs aren't efficient in any way shape or form and they're, at best, a marketing gimmick. If you want to know what it takes to ACTUALLY use a TEC effectively in cooling...look at the TEC liquid cooler combo from a few years ago for sub ambient cooling of the i9-10900k CPU. It's called the EK-QuantumX Delta TEC. If you want to effectively cool your laptop, use good thermal compounds, keep room well ventilated, and don't overclock if you don't know what you're doing.
A Laptop stand is sufficient enough for me.
looks small to me
dude i made my friend buy the speakers back in the day that you have!!!! i just got a blast from the past !
Poor implementation of the tech. The power issue is part of it. 30W peltier at best. Also, they needed to chill the incoming air. The peltier pad is never going to work well. Abs plastic is a poor thermal conductor. Being in the middle most is the air is pulled near to fans near the hinge.
This cooler really need piece of foam. Without it the wind will go everywhere which doing nothing for the cooling.
It needs the foam, a flatter/larger/movable petliter, and a strogner fan.
Drop your setting man.. thats stutter hurt
not to be rude but is your video quality really poor even in 1080p it feels like watching 144p video
I immediately just red flag any coolers that need to plug into your laptop
Plug it in to external power source.
Are you even 1% familiar with technology?.... How else in the world are you supposed to power a cooling device? Literally just use any usb power source ever, if you're shit worried about privacy.
is it bad for the laptop?
@@shanecoopershow If you're not gaming on a laptop, it isn't a bad option. But, if you plan on gaming, get the iets coolers.
@OKBUDDY21 I mean does it push air through the system faster than the built in fans are designed for causing damage? Thanks for your time btw
2:03 i hate my mind
dude i am getting seasick, why edit every second calm down with the editing please
same
It's so freaking loud lmao
Sounds like it’s about to take off 😂
Kinda hate this review. You used a laptop that is incompatible with the product and claimed the product was false advertising.
The cooling pad cannot lay flat, it doesn’t get all to cool and the fans are weak.
IETS gt626 is the king of coolers
I can not seem to find that one. I see people writting about it but no links. Could you send me the link here?
the pelier is very inefficient at cooling, also it has no direct contact so it does nothing!!!
There was direct contact and it did indeed cool down my SSDs.
GT500 laptop cooler is better
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Moral of the story:
All these laptop coolers are trash, don't spend a penny on them.
Not all are trash, Flydigi BS1. Aicheson k1 and llano V10 all work. I tried all. I like the BS1 the most because it has very low fan noise and automatic fan speed adjustment
Bought a llano v12 and it fucking works way too good
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Just look at the KLIM Mistral. Its 100 times better.
My goal was to see if the Peltier has any decent cooling properties. The GT500 cools the laptop down perfectly
gt626 is better
Do you even have a gt626? 🤔
Sorry, Chris, absolutely hate your editing style.