I know this might not help but I enjoy both! You’ve found like the perfect middle between breaking each step down a little bit, but also giving the big picture “organically” in each step. The organic approach lets us know you know what you’re talking about, which definitely helps. I’ve followed through your videos and they have MASSIVELY improved my mixes beyond what I thought was possible. I enjoy the style of this video very much. One of the only things I’d say would help me personally is it seems like (and I could be wrong) that you do a backward approach with the final busses, working your way back to the more granular first buses in your chain. I like moving in a forward approach, like the first bus I send the main clean vocals to, the steam vocals to, and then where THOSE buses go to next, etc etc. but that could just be me. It takes a second to figure out we’re your at in your chain, but I just pause the video and analyze what’s going on lol. Once again, I love the videos and the hello your providing to bedroom “engineers” like myself 😊🙏
Awesome video! Perhaps the reason the periphery vocals cut through in the lower mids more is I’m pretty sure nolly used buster odeholms Saturn trick on the low mids (250-600ish) Really helps the presence in that region!
Wow this is such a good start to finish breakdown! Lot's of notes to take. Have you every tried using Pro-Q's automatic EQ matching to speed things up? or do you find it's best to do it manually :)
I find that works well for bass and guitar, not so much for vocals. Since it's so dynamic and certain notes make certain frequencies stand out, I prefer to do it by ear 🙂
The bit at 0:03 is just the chorus from zagreus, if i follow all these steps will any clean vox i mix automatically sound like spencer sotelo>??>? LMAO
@@MOMetalProductions pretty awesome ! I started using ADPTR after I saw your video about it, and my Mix level went up a lot!!! Frequencies are more competitive with the reference. This approach of working on isolated vocals is brilliant!!! Please continue to do more, you are by far the most honest of the channels that talk about Modern Metal Mixing
For my ears the vocal sounds a bit… maybe lisp-y? The S sounds are kinda muffled IMO, kinda like it has a tad bit too much de-essing? Just my opinion though.
Too processed, that's not what rock is about, it's about a sound as natural as possible, But the more the better the less processing is needed in my opinion
@@alex_from_a_w_e_ old school music is known for its rawness, you said it yourself. We're talking and making high production modern music here if you didn't notice
@@heartherainsing "modern" can also mean rawness, it depends on the artist which style of mixing prefers and can stay as high PS: just told me we are not gonna hear a bunch of autotune in rock music, just like in trap music.
Do you guys enjoy watching the process more organically like this rather than me explaining an already done mix? Thanks for watching! 🤘
A deeper look into the process is great! Your tutorials have been great so far.
I know this might not help but I enjoy both! You’ve found like the perfect middle between breaking each step down a little bit, but also giving the big picture “organically” in each step. The organic approach lets us know you know what you’re talking about, which definitely helps. I’ve followed through your videos and they have MASSIVELY improved my mixes beyond what I thought was possible. I enjoy the style of this video very much.
One of the only things I’d say would help me personally is it seems like (and I could be wrong) that you do a backward approach with the final busses, working your way back to the more granular first buses in your chain. I like moving in a forward approach, like the first bus I send the main clean vocals to, the steam vocals to, and then where THOSE buses go to next, etc etc. but that could just be me. It takes a second to figure out we’re your at in your chain, but I just pause the video and analyze what’s going on lol. Once again, I love the videos and the hello your providing to bedroom “engineers” like myself 😊🙏
Such an amazing work as always! You took the song to whole another level! He's one of the best in the industry for sure!🤘
Awesome video! Perhaps the reason the periphery vocals cut through in the lower mids more is I’m pretty sure nolly used buster odeholms Saturn trick on the low mids (250-600ish)
Really helps the presence in that region!
Dynamics balancing is such an art. Good job man!
Wow this is such a good start to finish breakdown! Lot's of notes to take. Have you every tried using Pro-Q's automatic EQ matching to speed things up? or do you find it's best to do it manually :)
I find that works well for bass and guitar, not so much for vocals. Since it's so dynamic and certain notes make certain frequencies stand out, I prefer to do it by ear 🙂
That Gullfoss on the clean vocals was a great tip, it sounds awesome!
The bit at 0:03 is just the chorus from zagreus, if i follow all these steps will any clean vox i mix automatically sound like spencer sotelo>??>? LMAO
Really like your resoults. Keep it going🤘
Great video! What are you using for your vocal delays sends? I don't think you showed it in the video?
I am using EchoBoy by Soundtoys 🙂
The regular delay is an 1/8 note and the throw is 1/4 ping pong delay into a reverb.
What do you do about the melodyne "flutter" though?
These were edited before I got them so not too much that can be done in the mix about those kind of things
How did you get the isolated Voice track ? Amazing work dude
Thanks man! They have the mixed stems for sale on the Periphery store 😊
@@MOMetalProductions pretty awesome !
I started using ADPTR after I saw your video about it, and my Mix level went up a lot!!! Frequencies are more competitive with the reference.
This approach of working on isolated vocals is brilliant!!!
Please continue to do more, you are by far the most honest of the channels that talk about Modern Metal Mixing
@rafa_rodrigues thanks man, that means a lot! This technique can be applied to anything really, drums, bass, guitar etc.
Why there is no stereo out ?
Hey man, love your videos, do you mix/master for bands? I can't seem to find your website or a contact. Cheers!
Hey! I sure do. You can send me an email to mometalproductions@gmail.com 🤘
Dat pitch correction.
For my ears the vocal sounds a bit… maybe lisp-y? The S sounds are kinda muffled IMO, kinda like it has a tad bit too much de-essing? Just my opinion though.
Too processed, that's not what rock is about, it's about a sound as natural as possible, But the more the better the less processing is needed in my opinion
haha what age are you from bruh
Nah
@@heartherainsing rock music is known for that rawness, go check some old school /og hard rock-metal bands but Everyone does whatever they want
@@alex_from_a_w_e_ old school music is known for its rawness, you said it yourself. We're talking and making high production modern music here if you didn't notice
@@heartherainsing "modern" can also mean rawness, it depends on the artist which style of mixing prefers and can stay as high
PS: just told me we are not gonna hear a bunch of autotune in rock music, just like in trap music.