Milwaukee M12 FUEL VS Milwaukee M18 FUEL (BEST NEW Oscillating Multi Tool Comparison)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Milwaukee M12 FUEL VS Milwaukee M18 FUEL (BEST NEW Oscillating Multi Tool Comparison) In this video we give the #veyrcoolgang what they have been asking for with a Milwaukee oscillating multi tool comparison test! We are testing out two brand new FUEL oscillating multi tools from Milwaukee, the Milwaukee M12 FUEL oscillating multi tool (2526-20) against the Milwaukee M18 FUEL oscillating multi tool (2836-20). Both of these new FUEL multi tools have a lot of specifications in common but there are some key differences as well, Vince lets you know which one is best for the money so stay tuned! Let us know your thoughts and which one you think is the best brand new Milwaukee FUEL oscillating multi tool in the comments section below.
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****THE M12 OSCILLATING TOOL HAS A KNOWN PROBLEM****
First, I have many M12 and M18 tools, as well as a few oscillating tools, including two M12 fuels(first and second gen) and one M18 fuel.
I stopped using the M12 OMT because the inside battery housing will destroy batteries! The vibration will chew up the battery ear clips that allow it to snap into the housing. Once they start chewing, the condition only gets worse. It's been the same thing for both generations. Once the tabs start wearing out, that battery will no longer snap into the housing support, and will easily pop out under even the slightest stress or vibration. Been using the M18 ever since. I have too many good M12 to allow the m12 oscillating tool to destroy my batteries. I wish Milwaukee would develop a new battery clasp/mounting system for the M12 batteries.
I couldn't decide, so I split the difference and went with the M15.
Hey Vince can u test them when cutting through bolts? As a mechanic something like this with a metal blade would be a life saver!
Just bought the bare tool m12 fuel for $150 and a xc 6.0 battery for $120.. a little pricey, but glad i did it! The m12 is all you truly need for mid to heavy grade DIY. Home projects i couldnt be happier
I dig it! Just picked up the m12 kit with the 4ah for $129!!! There on sale at home depot if anyone needs one! Today is 2/2/2022!
Yep picked up an m12 today I am happy about it got a great price on ebay :-)
Huge thanks vin , I have been holding out a long time to replace my corded tool, I'm in both m12 & m18 now I know to save the money and get m12.
Thanks for this one. This was the exact comparison I was looking for. Honestly, through my own research and accord I had already decided that the M12 would suit my needs. While heavy into the M18s, I also use DeWalt and Makita in their respective 18/20 volt lines as each have their own advantages in certain tools for me. This would be my first foray into the M12 platform so future battery purchases would be made and open up some inclusion opportunities for other m12 products. A multitool had previously been thought as something I could do without, like those years I thought the same about a sawzall which I cannot imagine not having now. I can see the advantage of having a multitool in certain situations on the builds/fabrications I do. I was in the process of purchasing the M18 version as a gift and had thought to ask the visiting Milwaukee rep about the comparison between the 12 and 18. His response was to look at me like I was stupid and walked away to do something else. Oh, well. Can't win 'em all or let someone else's bad day define mine, lol. To everyone at VCG and the viewing gang members, Merry Christmas and stay safe!
For what I need and what I do, you convinced me to get the M12, and for its price point, it’s perfect!
Thank you, Vince!
I plan on going with the M18, For the reason if I run into a need for heavier duty. Like cutting through a pipe in a wall I have the extra capacity. It's no fun buying an expensive tool and running into a need for the one you cheaped out on.
Thanks so much. This was the exact comparison I needed. It’s m12 for me. Even if they were the same price, the m12 seems more nimble.
There is 16 ounces in a pound not 10. When comparing the weight at the beginning you said the heavier one, the M18 was heavier by 9 or 10 oz and that is not true it's heavier by 15 oz because 16 oz is 1 lb not 10 oz lol
People do not buy tools to destroy them on purpose like you do. Demo them how normal people use them! We don't care if it stalls, your literally doing something the tool is not designed to do. This is why not of your shit lasts.
@@srt4fan4u2 woahhhhh take it eeeeeeeasy man
@@srt4fan4u2 don't think your getting the point mate! Hes pushing it to the limit so we know what we buy will cope! it offends you don't watch it and fo create your own videos lol
Like the weight of 12. Just carry extra battery.
I see a lot of m12 owners so I’ll support my m18 guys. I got the m18 fuel and honestly I love it. The size actually doesn’t get in the way like you would expect. It’s also got the bigger light and the power is definitely there when you need it. I believe it was worth the money
Same I just got the M18 yesterday and used it all day. Really enjoying it. I had no problems with hitting the speed wheel or anything.
Basically the same price at HD right now. May be what I go for.
I have m12 only because I don't use it alot. I have more m18 fuel tools because I want that extra power when I need it. I just recently got the m18 fuel hacksaw because I want to have power and battery life when I am fixing plumbing or when I need to use one hand instead of two like with the sawzall.
@@556guy4 Understandable, everyone should tailor their "armory" to their needs
The M12 is really nice, you just need to carry more batteries. I really like the CP2.5HO in this tool because it blends in with the grip and doesn't get in the way when you have to move the tool at different angles. It's also very powerful compared to the CP2.0. I keep 4 of the 2.5HO batteries in the tool bag and just swap out and charge as they get depleted.
A reminder for content creators concerning work safety... Any tool with moving parts vibrates, even drills. But when it comes to things like jackhammering, using Multi tools or maybe flatting the ground with larger vibrating machines, or above all: the vibration tool no. 1: the concrete viber, vibrating the air out of fresh concrete, making it more compact.
Thing is with vibrations, they are extremely dangerous. They damage your nerves if used for too long. Joints will also get fucked.
I would simply like to see reviewers of tools like this take into aspect that if you use the tool for longer times, the less vibrations one is Always the winner. Also, dont forget that there are anti vibe gloves for tools like this as well!
In many countries, there are established rules on how long and frequent certain tools may be operated by one person.
You can't build if you're Dead. Safety first. Be safe and mindful out there, I am recovering from a snapped stretch joint in my thumb.
Im a professional carpenter and I refuse to use this tool without rest for more than 30 m at a time, max 2 hours per Day. And even if the tools is used that frequently, something has gone wrong. All this said, this is DEFINETELY in my Top five favourite tool list as a pro.
Peace
Some Workers Comp in some places have listed as an injury.
I should've grabbed the M12 deal when it was in the store, that was the deal if you already have batteries...
"...watch the whole video again at three quarter speed..." LOL. You always make me laugh Vince! Smashed the like button on so many of your videos I'm giving away years of good luck for Christmas. ;-)
After owning both m18 and m12 I really am starting to appreciate m12 small size and power to size ratio. Its just great and getting better.
I agree with you @STICHAMP
Same here, started with M18, the gradually have added more M12, very handy, and easier to tote around for a lot of tasks. Just added the M12 Fuel OMT few weeks back, it’s great, both quality lines.
The 12vfuel lines are the best on the market for class and out compete most 18v brushed and brushless. That being said the 18fuel lineups power is insane but the 12v delivers just enough plus the weight loss in tool size, makes the m12 the best to buy for me..except for a few tools here and there, hacksaw,vaccum etc
@@Lkom24 I agree
@@Lkom24 im starting to think the same.
You know you don't have to remove the screw with universal blades, I have the brushed version 18v and I think it feels better in hand then the new one, it's one of the few Milwaukee tools I own. I'd go with the 12v the fact that it's lighter
Got the old m12 when there was a hack for $43 (bare tool). A month later the M12 Fuel came out, got that for $105 with a hack (bare tool). The m12 Fuel is night and day better than the old one even for over double the price. Even if you use it once a month its easily worth upgrading. Hoping next year a m12 Fuel jigsaw comes out.
Vince is hilarious! Love his outros. lol
M12. I like the smaller and lighter aspect. I am older and retired DIYer so I am not a heavy user. The M12 works for me.
Thanks for the workout and comparison which goes a long way to confirming my decision.
Would it be worth buying the m12 if I don’t have any other m12 tools and little to no interest in buying any or should I pony up and buy the m18
I have the M18 Fuel and love it. I usually hold the back with my left hand and front with my right because I am right handed I like to control the movement with my right hand. That also in turn eliminates any problem he had with the position of the variable speed dial. Honestly the weight doesn't make a difference all competitors to the M12 are larger and/or heavier in some capacity to the M12. 12 volt tools are inherently smaller and/or lighter. You should consider what platform your on, price and run time I think those are the big differences between the two. He said they had the same power and speed but it didn't sound that way to me and it looked like the M12 was slightly slower. Happy shopping.
VCG giving the people what they want! Great review, sold me on the M12, funny I started on the M18 with the drill & driver, but now that I got the installation driver, and now this OMT coming, 12 volt is getting the job done!
M12 fuel for me and oh I can’t wait for the m12 fuel band saw that’s the one tool I’m really wanting
That m12 band saw looks like what I need too nice and compact with a bigger jaw now
Thanks for the video and much respect to you and the gang. Understand your point here but for me, I opted for the M18 version. I have no M12 tools therefore no batteries. By the time I purchased the M12 tool and 2 batteries I would be over the cost of the M18 tool. Thanks for the comparison, gave me a good reason to think.
How many of you smashing the like button for 7 years of good luck?! LOL Nice video, comparison!
Thanks for the comparison!
I ordered the M18 since the bare tool was one sale for just $10 more than the M12 bare tool, I've seen others test the auto feature and it actually seems nice and I will just use my 3ah high output on it to save a bit of weight.
But for me most importantly, because I have CECS syndrome in my right forearm, even if the vibration is marginally better, that's the tool I will buy.
Other youtube reviews say the 12V vibrates way less... don't know what is going on
Now you have my interest. Battle of the Milwaukee M12 and M18 Oscillating multitool/blade.
I already have the M12 and I love it. As an electrician I haven't needed the extra oscillation, LED light or bigger batteries option, so I'm staying M12 in this case
Question for Vince. I have the non fuel m12 multitool. Still works after 6 years. Is the m12 fuel worth replacing a working tool? I hate the allen screw blade changes
I think I’ll go the M18 route, mainly because 18volt batteries are all I have on my job site. The M12 looks like a fine tool, and is a screaming good sale now. But it would drive me crazy to have 12’s and 18’s on my job until I croak. My sanity is most important to me at this point.
Fair enough, I will say I've had the m12 fuel impact for a few years now & depending what type you work you do it excels on all marks. Very light, fits in all types of spaces & plenty of power for the size it can drive 3 inch screws & 2 inches lags no problem. To each their own tho!
I want to go for the M12 but I’ve bought into the DEWALT’s battery system, I can get an adapter for the M18 but not the M12… looks like I’ve got to go M18.
They are definitely better than the Dewalt multi tool
I got the m18 and the speed selector is indeed in the way. Always have to make sure it's at the right position before starting it. Otherwise, the m18 is literraly a beast.
HEADS UP if you plan on sanding drywall with the M12 you’ll need the 2Ah battery No. 48-11-2420. The 5.0Ah extends so far that the lower half of the pad can’t contact the drywall.
it’s whatever battery you have more of 😂
Exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks! One more thing I like about the m12 just from looking at them side-by-side is that the m12 head is a little smaller, which means it will get in the way less. For me, $230 is just too much for a multi-tool. I don't actually enjoy using those whiney little bastards.
The M18 battery and usage time is the advantage along with the auto feature. The higher capacity M18 batteries will allow more usage. They are the same size so M18 is the best option overall. Plus most people have more M18 batteries.
As an industrial electrician I really don't need M18 power. I like the weight, power and the price of M12 tools. I do have an m12 fuel 1/2" hammer drill that is a little lacking but everything has been really good.
I got M18 last month. Only reason I have M18 over M12, is because I don't have any M12 tools. So buy an M12 with two batteries will be more expensive than naked M18
If you have a pile of M18 batteries and tools, the M18 can be the right choice. I went with the M8 for that reason.
Thanks for the video. Great info. One tid bit that I think was missed, or perhaps a no brainer, is that due to the high price of the batteries folks should consider buying the model that fits their current battery supply if shopping on a budget. I am personally stacked up with M18 batteries, so the M18 model will be my go to simply for that reason. I just replaced the my small battery pack for 89.00, and they only go up from there. It's all preference, but I personally don't want to travel down the 12v road of battery purchases to save 80.00 on a tool. For me, it would be a 9.00 hit based solely on the price of the small 89.00 battery.
Thanks again for the great comparison video.
Even if the M12 and M18 have the same motor, the higher voltage will still net increased performance out of the same tool. Build enough battery-powered motors with varied voltages and you'll see just how significant a 50% increase in voltage is on the exact same motor
Also a preference is maybe one only prefers Milwaukee m18 than m12 and vice versa, because I for one just prefer m12 tools as they are more compact overall imo. But also I dont have jobs neccessary to use m18 tools. Downside to m12 is that there are specific tools the m18 has in its lineup, but because m18 is more powerful of course. 😎👍
You got it right Vince! The Orange store has a deal (2) 6.0 ah batteries, charger and the M12 fuel unit for $199. Hello?!
they cost exactly the same In the place I live, and I'm already on m18 platform - would that change your pick?
I have both. I like the m18s power, I thought the M12 fuel was a monster,, then I got the M18 fuel. I like Auto mode for specific things like trimming door jambs. The M12 feels like it's more precise and is a little easier to use. I've been doing a lot of detail sanding with a 1.5 on it and it's pretty sweet. I'll need to get some more time on the M18 on some more challenging demo work to see what it's really about
From what he says in the video the m18 doesn't have anymore power then the m12?? if that's the case I may just go with the m12 especially since I can use my smaller batterys and be even more compact.
@@marcowens3522 The M12 is fine for most things. The M18 works better on really tough cuts. It is more powerful and it has an auto mode that makes it easier to start cutting where you want. I use them equally
@@maxbrap Do you agree with him on the vibrations being noticeably lower with the m18 compared to m12?
@@bethlauridsen4489 It's been a while now since I've used them. It would make sense that the heavier tool vibrated less; but, it is heavier and I remember using the m12 more eventually just because it was lighter. I used the M18 mostly when I just needed more power. My wife, on the other hand, loves the m18; she uses it mostly for demo
@@maxbrapdemo that box is what’s happening
Hey Vince,
Are you still keepin that vision 2020
👀 👓
Hitachi was the first to make the auto oscillation feature on the multi tool
Really good comparison video, I’m all in on team red myself, so I did pickup the M12 Fuel OMT a few weeks ago, for pretty much the same reasons you came up with. Have the previous non fuel M18 but wanted the less vibration and higher speeds the fuel offerings had, as well as slightly more compactness. That and saving the $80 was nice too. Not disappointed at all with the M12 Fuel, a great tool to pickup. Now I just need to find a sale on the Milwaukee blades in that compact case!
Picked up my first oscillating MT thanks to your video! Get to use the same batteries that came with the M12 installation drill/driver kit, a double plus!
I went with the m18 for the auto feature alone. I haven't tested it yet but I think that will come in real handy when starting cuts when fine cuts are necessary. Less likely to walk on you.
I agree with you vince I would go m12 fuel all day long bro especially for the 80 cheaper price point @Vcgconstruction
You gotta make a video on cutting grout. Also you'll see a lot of stalling there.
I already have 6 m18 batteries. Looks like M18 version for me
Watched after getting the current deal on the m12, looks like it will be more than enough for my uses cutting some drywall and baseboards at home. Might even be the better choice in general. Thanks Vince.
Would link to see comparison of brushless M18 drill, driver combo, not fuel, to M12 Fuel, Fuel Surge.
@vcgconstruction
I got the Milwaukee special edition Ryobi HP brushless Chaka model in limited edition puke green 🤢. It’s been great and I’ve been happy with it but if I see deal on the m12 I’m scooping it up, can’t stand the giant ryobi batteries on the bottom of the tool, but honestly it’s been a great performer for $99 bucks bare tool
Everyone love the LE
Exactly what I was looking for, I was thinking that the M12 is a great tool at a decent price. M18 looks like a fantastic tool but pretty pricey. Curious of the performance difference between the two, this clinches it. Buying the M12. Thanks for the great videos.
i wouldn't be worried about the thickness of the m18 fuel since the makita cordless and corded oscillating tool is like holding a thick tree branch
Hi Vince,
I had to give you an update. So I been using my Milwaukee m12 multi tool and I have to say I'm totally impressed. I been using it more then my Dewalt. Yes the vibration is way less on the Milwaukee m12. I do catch myself grabbing the button for the quick blade release that's on the Dewalt. I still like that one feature more. Everything else is awesome on the m12. Sadly I sold my Dewalt 😥.. I'm truly happy with the m12 multi tool.
Just wanted to share.
Michael C - (WA)
I have the Dewalt 20 volt and I've used a Milwaukee once, think it was the m18, and the m18 felt better to use. I own some m12 tools, and now I'm thinking of replacing my Dewalt.
But I do like the quick blade change on the Dewalt.
@@acerjuglans383
Yes, that's quick change is one feature I like a lot on the Dewalt multi tool. I was going to get the Milwaukee m18 multi tool but I got the m12 version.
The few reason I purchased the m12. It's slimmer on the handle, I can get into tighter spaces better. Especially when you use the slim battery 3.0ah. Plus it can stand up with the 6.0 ah battery. The m18 you alway have to lay it down. It's not bad but I like that I can stand it upright for my use. The m18 does have that cool slow start feature. When you put pressure on the cut it will increase the power.
Thanks
Hey could you review the m12 fuel sds hammer drill? It’s an older tool but would love to see it!
I have it and it’s fantastic for installing tapcons. I’m a plumber and use it most frequently for securing toilet flanges and 2-hole straps in walls.
If you like charging your batteries a lot go for m12
Literally just bought the 18v fuel version, huge step up from the non fuel version I had but I wish I would have watched this video before I bought the 18v I probably would have bought the 12v version...
When both tools came out, I went and got the M12 Fuel, cause I figured it would be perfect for the money. So far I haven't regretted that decision and now your review proves my instinct was good. I do like the idea of the auto mode on the M18 but I would rather save the $80.
6:55 Vince almost cut off his finger
Well it is hard to cut your finger with a oscillating tool. But I have had a decent cut with a oscillating saw,
@Sher John yea
r u dumb ya u can very easily
Just got the m12 fuel multi tool kit with a 4 aho, charger, bag, blades, sanding pad AND a free 6 aho all for 169 lol
I agree. I love my m12 more. Just a near perfect tool
You need to put this to the test with the mighty Fein 18v max.
You can get the M12 version for $69 on Amazon. That sold me 😆
I have the m12 fuel, great little tool.
Just be aware, the smaller batteries have a really short runtime. At speed 8 I went through a 2ah and a 3ah battery in maybe 3 minutes of total runtime.
Very true.
I literally bought the M12 fuel and the corded Dewalt to test. Tool is great at cutting but with runtime being in single digit minutes, not worth it. Oh and the difficulty in inserting and removal of the battery.
Returned it.
@@g8beast679 should have used 6.0 ah batteries.. runs great with them
@@LumenChaser i could have, but did not want to risk breaking the battery clips on an expensive battery.
How would you feel If you could get that M18 Fuel for $120? 😯
Ergonomics are actually better on the Gen 1.
So is Battery Chatter
Hey Vince, I was impressed with the M12 Fuel I saw you demonstrating in your video that I bought it at the Home Depot and got the free 2 amp battery. This tool rocks!
I got my m18 fuel oscillating tool for 189.00 with 5.0 battery. And I’ll probably get the m12 fuel for 169.00 with a 4.0 battery, charger, sander attachment, sand paper and a bonus 6.0 battery. I already got the m12 brushed model and I think it’s awesome
the oscillating blades in a shockwave box is awesome
Thanks for video man. I mean personally I’d get the m18 just because I usually have a bit of extra cash to spend on my tools and most of my Milwaukee are m18 and I like to have them mostly all the same lol. But I wouldn’t have thought their performance was almost the same. M18 is just if you got a couple extra bucks to get the deluxe version I suppose
Weeks ago I went M12. Smaller lighter
Both oscillating at same speed. You should give blades time to clear material not push down and overheat it - saves blades/money. Yes I have both m12 & m 18 batteries already
I got the M18 and there’s a sale on M12 stuff. I’ve seen the M12 used before and I want both. Having a lightweight option for cutting hard-to-reach or high areas is nice.
What’s the name of the safety glasses that you have on
My mother had one of these and I thought it was just a sander. Had no idea it could cut wood and metal as well. Just picked up M12fuel with battery...now I just need some videos on how to properly cut wood and metal :)
Vince could you try the m18 with a high output battery to see if it can use the better tech to create more power thanks buddy keep up the good work 👍🏻
6:20 Oh yeah it is, for most parts when doing a complete tear out and remodel, I just go for OMT & cut the pipes, etc...🤣 It’s fast & works, and besides....we replacing them anyway😉
Another good “bit” is inside “pipe” cutter fir drills.
For me, I’m going m12 fuel since don’t have and keeping good old m18 OMT till breaks & need that sweat sweat fuel model
Thx Vince for confirming m12 fuel is worth it✌🏼
I agree the M12 would be my choice. I wondered if by having 12v rather 18v i might miss out on performance from other tools in the Milwaukee range?
I don't own any Milwaukee tools so hard to say.
Its easy, I have m18 tools and dont want to start collecting m12 batteries lol.
Not gonna lie i came on here to make sure i made the right choice and u gave it to me....i got the m12 fuel and it hasn't disappointed.
I go for M18 because I have the batteries already with my other Milwaukee equipment, that’s my reason. Great video, certainly makes you think.
Great review... going to get the m12 one... I am in milwaukee family, but need a cordless sander, but milwaukee sucks compared to dewalt ones...any update coming before I buy the dewalt cordless sander.
I've got the M18 multitool which is great. I wish it had a more variable speed like my plug in Makita (which is awesome) I'm a fan of Milwaukee, De Walt, and Makita depending on the tool.
Great video I appreciate your honesty. I have the older 18v and it’s not bad at all. I have not tried the new one so I wouldn’t know the difference except the price it’s lot cheaper the older model. Been in the construction field over 39 years so had the chance to try many different types of cordless tools. If I would say one thing it would be Quality control It’s amazing how so many companies forgotten about it. I understand these days tools are made in certain ways so they will break and you would go and buy another one. I remember trusting on certain types of brands just because quality was the best. I Olson understand battery life got much better so you get some good with bad. Thanks again
Thanks for the comparison vid! U still gonna do the Dewalt XR vs M18 Oscillating TTR???
I went m12 for the price.
@VCG Going from 1st gen M18, to Dewalt, and back to the FUEL M12 after seeing this an a dewalt vs m12
Different video I saw. I remodel btw.
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Great video. I got the m12 about a month ago apart of a package deal with the m12 stubby. The multitool came in handy on my bathroom remodel. Loved the little m12.
I was having a hard time deciding until I watched this. I went M12.
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Super comparison, thanks. You confirmed my thoughts with real data. I replaced a Gen 1 M12 OMT with the M12 Fuel version and was amazed. I had ordered the M18 Fuel Gen 2 OMT but when it arrived, decided it wasn't likely to do much that the M12 couldn't do, and it was bigger and heavier, so I returned it.
FWIW and without having actually used the M18 version, I wonder if it might be a little harder to control on detail cuts than is the M12 due to the increased angle of oscillation. On vibration, I wonder if the bigger battery is helping the M18 version to feel like it's vibrating less?
Perfect comparison!
Sold me on the M12, especially since they basically have the same capability but the m12 has the capability of getting in tighter spaces
I bought the m12 and love it! One heck of a tool.
I agree both are amazing tools the one thing i dont see you consider is if you already have majority or all of your tools in M18, and none to little in the M12. Not sure if im ready to upgrade my Multi tool yet, but when i am ill be considering the M12. The M18 would fit better with my arsenal of tools and batteries so it is still a contender even at $80 more.
My hd are still doing the m12 deal with free battery right now
I killed a 12 on site within the week. I was asking alot of it and it was about 8 years ago so definitely a different model but the old sayings still ring true.
"Once bitten...Twice Shy"
Black and yellow now and i will admit to being on my second..... Only because i lost it or a borrower didn't returned.
Never worked that one out.
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