so basically Shinki possibly knew most of them or had some connection, Kanako and Sanae i guess because their goddesses and may have some sort of connection. Yuyuko I don't know but Yukari more likely in some way. I don't know too much about these characters but correct me if I'm wrong
I can just imagine Shinki getting more and more frustrated as the fight progresses, and eventually culminating with her putting so much power into her attacks and trying SO hard to kill you that she literally razes Makai to the ground in collateral damage. I like to think that that's why Reimu and the yōkai got together and created the Spell Card Rules between the events of Touhou 5 and 6: to prevent Gensokyo going the same way if a clash of that scale ever happened again. -Yes I know it was really the incident involving some vampire that may or may not have been Remilia before the events of 6 that caused the rules to be put in place but I can dream shush-
The perfect idea of a villainous breakdown mixed with a cosmic temper tantrum. Shinki starts off confident that she can defeat this insolent Shrine Maiden, this "dog of the gods" confronting her now, and suddenly Reimu starts to gradually harm her more and more with her sutra volley. Shinki brushes Reimu's attacks off as mere scratches, but the more damage she takes, the more she weakens, the more Shinki's confidence withers, and the more Shinki starts to get angrier. At the moment that her wings turn purple, she is starting to give into feral anger, and starts to let out indiscriminate attacks that starts to bombard Makai. I can imagine Reimu suddenly growing horrified as Shinki starts to rant and yell about how she can't be beaten by a mere priestess, and she tries to call out to her that at this rate, she'll cause irreparable damage to her own realm, but Shinki doesn't listen. By the time Shinki has completely razed Makai and is unleashing her final attack, she has lost any and all care for anything around her and is screaming in rage, disbelieving as to how a mere human can best the queen of Gensokyo's equivalent to Hell, and why Reimu won't simply just die despite Shinki pouring all of her demonic power out against our heroic miko. A common fan interpretation regarding the end of the fight is that Shinki was ultimately killed at the end of the battle, as she exerted so much magical power that by the moment she was defeated, she couldn't even cast a measly non-spell, and died of overexertion. And her precious Makai lay in ruins. Also, the battle with Alice in the Extra Stage happens in the void left behind in Makai's wake after Shinki pretty much annihilated it.
@@lancecurry7538 Shinki has any right to be angry since she does nothing wrong with this so called "demon invasion incident" when in reality it was Makai Traveling Agency's fault who let Makai people ilegally cross border to take a vacation. A harmless minor problem that turns into chaos because Reimu and Marisa misunderstood the situation, then doubled down by Mima who help just so she can take Shinki's throne and Yuuka who just want to fight someone strong. Shinki wasn't the bad guy. It was the main characters all along.
@@lancecurry7538 uh... Shinki's alive in the endings, though, completely contradicting the theory that she's dead. Hell, the Makai residents seem to be fine in Reimu's ending.
@@oranjaglad8648 With the amount of fan-content Touhou puts out that completely rewrites ZUN's narratives to create their own... I think there are many valid interpretations about the ramifications of Mystic Square, ranging from "nothing of consequence came from this" all the way to "Makai's daemonic invasion of Gensokyo completely changed the paradigm of the realm forever and forced Yukari to literally rewrite the rules on how magic worked in the world to save it from total annihilation."
I always wondered why everyone thinks that makai got completly destroyed by Shinki just because there are flames in the backround of her final phase? for all we kow she may have only destroyed Pandaemonium
She didn't destroy all of Makai, but she took out a large chunk of it. At a low estimate, everything in a several mile radius (at least) of Pandemonium was wiped out.
@@thegameglitcher2439 Hence why I said at minimum. I don't really know the exact geography of Makai or where things are in relation to each other, so I gave a vague estimate.
@@NEETKitten What? How do you get a several mile radius from this? She literally just destroyed Pandemonium and set a bunch of surrounding buildings on fire.
Think about it. That is epic. Reimu arrives in order to stop the demonic invasion. Here, the creator of all the devils is waiting for her, thinking she'll defeat her easy. "Shrine maidens are just dogs of gods", she says. However, her opponent is too powerful. She lets her demonic power control herself gradually, and actually burn and destroy her own demon world because of this fight. If ANYBODY tells me this is just a little girls' game...
If Shinki is in Windows era : 0:10 Nonspell 1 0:35 Spellcard 1 0:58 Nonspell 2 1:02 Spellcard 2 1:29 Special Spellcard 1 1:49 Nonspell 3 1:52 Spellcard 4 2:17 Special Spellcard 2 2:57 Final Spellcard
That last attack reminds me a lot of Devil's recicitation... Hang on sec, Doesn't this fight take place in Makai?! Is it possible Byakuren's spell is similar because she learned it from Shinki herself?!
I mean, Byakuren's attack is, as you said, called "Devil's Recitation"... If you think about it, it's just natural that it'd be called that. I mean, _of course_ it'd be a "recitation": Shinki/The Devil declared that spell first.
@@Wobuffet3 Other viable names: "Devil's Declaration", "Devil's Proclamation", "Devil's Decree"... To me it will, however, always be known as "The Harbinger of the Spell Card System"... Like, I know that it was canonically Remilia's emergence that forced the creation of the Spell Card System, but meta-wise, Shinki's penultimate attack was -- aside from EX stage Alice -- the last big attack we saw from Touhou before Rumia declared the first Spell Card... and, who knows, maybe Alice unleashing her full power in TH5 is what rewrote the PC98 canon and turned the Devil a Vampire? They do, after all, have some things in common, Shinki and Remilia. **glances at meido brigade**
>it’s all because some demons in makai wanted to tour gensokyo and a travel agency came about because of it. >shinki just seems to be annoyed by it as well, and promises with reimu to deal with it, but has to beat up reimu for being such a nuisance in her realm and then she fucking burns down all of Makai???? I guess that just proves she can probably recreate it but jesus christ
I blame protags for misunderstood makai people going for vacation, calling it demonic invasion. Yuuka and Mima is even worse. Yuuka wants a good fight and Mima want Shinki's throne. I think this is one of touhou game where the protag were the bad guy
Am I the only one who hates the "Shinki destroyed Makai" theory? You're telling me that the literal God of Demons is stupid enough to destroy a "large chunk" of the world she created just because she was fighting an intruder? Just no... that sounds like something MatPat could come up with.
@@moh.syafrianabie8899 Also this is the game that made me question why everyone wants Mima back, considering how much of a jerkass she was in this game. I swear, she's the only Touhou character whose dialogue actually ticked me off.
@@oranjaglad8648 1. It doesn't make sense on Reimu's route since Makai is not destroyed on that route and the incident aren't resolved as illegal migration are still happening and even Shinki apologize to Reimu for not keeping her promise resolving the illegal border crossing problem (My theory is even if Shinki create the residents of Makai, she give them free will so that's why she doesn't want to control her people she created). But on the other hand it makes sense on Marisa, Mima, and Yuuka's route since they have their selfish reason and on the ending it's seen that Makai people are afraid of them to the point of running away if they see those 3 individuals. And based on the ending, these 3 routes are chronologically happen after Reimu's route. 2. Either people wanted Mima back because of her relationship with Marisa, and basically want more information about both of them. Or people just doing it for the memes because I doubt people played PC98 games anyway, let alone understanding that Mima is a jerk.
@@moh.syafrianabie8899 I mean, assuming Marisa, Yuuka, and mima's routes happen after Reimu's, I feel like the reason the Makai residents are afraid of Marisa, Yuuka, and Mima is because of the fact that they've already dealt with Reimu and thus wouldn't have expected 3 other beings from Gensokyo to attack them in a row. Them being selfish wouldn't equate to Shinki deciding to drop what is essentially a nuke onto her own world. If anything, I'd imagine her being annoyed at them, but not THAT destructive. Hell, she seemed pretty calm while talking with the three in Stage 5, only getting serious during the final stage (and while she doesn't like what Yuuka said about Makai, she wasn't seething with rage or anything, and she even says Yuuka wasn't "important enough" to deal with for Yumeko, though she allows Yumeko to fight her anyways). And even if you apply the fact that the SCR likely didn't exist, it doesn't make sense to me why people only apply the logic to Shinki and not other Pc-98 characters that are probably just as strong as she is (take Gengetsu for example; not only does she use GIANT lasers, but her final time-out is one of the hardest attacks in the series. By that logic, does she end up destroying the Dream World just because of two intruders who were bothering her and her sister?). Did they also cause meaningless destruction? Or do people overlook that fact just because Shinki's the only one who has a convenient background change? This leads me to believe a) Shinki's even stupider than Cirno and Utsuho if mere intruders are enough to push her that far, b) other Pc-98 characters are just as guilty as she is when it comes to collateral damage, or c) people are taking a game from 1998 way too seriously for their own good.
As someone who graduated from the university last year, I can say this is accurate. That reminded of me and my colleagues having to finish 3-4 projects and assignments at each semester. I'm glad that the overall hassle is over.
>first ever run of MS >last level, 1 continue >I got this >gets brutally murdered by wings and cheeto lazers >f*ck >Devil's Recitation >death >1 life left >the pressure is real *>mfw I die when shinki has 1 pixel of life*
I can barely beat her on Normal T.T I wish PC-98 ran as smoothly on my computer as it does on yours. I have to deal with the screen constantly flickering everything that's not a background when there's too many bullets.
Tbf it runs smoothly on my laptop with windows 7 and 8.1 but it could be a skill issue since I'm unable to 1cc normal mode for once, I just want to unlock the extra stage.
My apologize. I mean boundary of life and death. /facepalm Iwakasa's Moon Curse looks like an adapted version of this, while Boundary of Life and Death is the hax version directly based on this one.
Hey... uh... tell me. Has any other Touhou game shown the damage your fight did to the environment? Because seeing the way Shinki completely wreaked the shit out of Makai to fight you was fucking awesome.
@zhulov3rz You can actually get rid of the input lag by properly configuring the emulator. I think the most important thing with Anex86 is selecting "sync" in the config and setting it to "1".
Timestamps: 1:02 Yuyuko 1:28 Kanako 1:53 Sanae 2:18 Byaruken 2:58 Yukari That Doesn't Means That Those Attacks Inspired Shinki,Right??? Also 2:14 Predicted Touhou 12.... Byaruken is Shinki Reincarnated....
Everyone is talking about Byaruken in these comments... My question...since Shinki destroys Makai, her own world, during this battle, how is Byaruken even IN Makai supposing Windows canon is after PC-98 canon? Or maybe Windows canon is the true prequel... Also, I know Byaruken was sealed 1000 years before UFO, I'm saying at the point of the battle.
***** Simple. Pc-98 is non-canon. So none of this actually happened. Only what is said in Windows is true. The characters still existed and everything, but none of the events took place. It's like a child's imagination. Which might actually be what it is, considering Reimu and Marisa were just kids at the time.
Officer Shinki Okay, I suppose that makes a lot more sense then it actually being canon. That doesn't explain how Byaruken even knew about Shinki's spell in the first place, but it's better than a lot of theories I've heard.
***** As I said, all of it still exists, but the events never happened. There's still a Shinki and a Makai. So it's still very possible that Shinki taught the spell to Byakuren.
Canonically Byakuren was sealed away in Hokkai, which is a part of Makai (You know, Shinki's world). So the chance that they met and that Shinki taught her Devil's Recitation is pretty high.
***** I honestly haven't ever heard that stuff about (the dimension) Makai (is located in) collapsing in on itself during/after the fight with Shinki (nor can I find any sources backing up your statement that it did)... In fact, I even find it highly unlikely that it did. First of all since, after the events of Mystic Square, Reimu tries to talk Shinki into putting a stop to all of the denizens of Makai coming to Gensoukyou and secondly because the PCs visit Makai in UFO... I really don't think what you said earlier, about Hokkai being located "above" Shinki's Makai, makes any sense, either. If it's "above" Shinki's Makai in a sense where you can say that "the two as a whole is referred to as Makai", then it'd still be located in the same dimension. I.e., Hokkai would also have gone buh-bye along with Shinki's Makai... (I also cannot find any sources backing up your claim that ZUN has said Shinki lied about being a god.)
GrahamChapman The very first scene displayed immediately after beating Shinki is of her accepting her defeat at the hands of [insert character here] with an anime-style bump on her head. Torgo SupaFine just lives in their own void of fanon. Don't waste your time debating the trolls. ;)
rollanddev Well, it's quite common within the Touhou community that the fandom gets the canon and fanon mixed up to various degrees (especially when it comes to the PC-98 games and how, or IF, they fit in with the main series' continuty). But, yeah, I guess I might as well ignore them. ^^'
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but that really doesn't look like human and youkai. If it looks like anything of yukari's, it looks like a very weak boundary of life and death. It looks a good deal more like a prototype of "Iwakasa's Moon Curse" to me...
Unpopular opinion: I love PC-98 games, graphics, bgms and characters no matter the difficulty. Don't get me wrong, I love those aesthetic graphics regardless of the flaws, modern graphics wouldn't fit in such old games due to hardware limitations and because windows didn't reach Japan at that moment. I'd love to see those characters back in Touhou 20 assuming it came out, yes ?
Wow, I never thought cheeto lasers could act up like that on max rank. Good job. :o I gotta start using these savestates before you take all the good accomplishments on video first. :3
So in PC-98 the spellcard rules didn't exist until Touhou 6 Basically they're fighting for life and death right here. I mean, Reimu as a human and a powerful ass shrine maiden she'd actually stand a chance against Shinki even without spellcard rules.
This also applies to Marisa, which is surprising, given how weak she sees herself in the Windows games. And then there's Yuuka. She stomps Shinki and asks for a better fight.
Maximum value in the 90s game was 99m back then. Any attempts to bypass the max would change the integer value to something unusual better than crashing.
Well, in the sense that it never actually _focused_ your firepower, no, there wasn't focus until Touhou 6. But in Touhou 4 and Touhou 5 you could still hold down shift to slow your movements.
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1:02 yuyuko
1:28 kanako
1:53 sanae
2:18 byakuren
2:58 yukari
damn, zun. shinki inspired a lot of attacks, didn't she?
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Damn RUclips these day...
so basically Shinki possibly knew most of them or had some connection, Kanako and Sanae i guess because their goddesses and may have some sort of connection. Yuyuko I don't know but Yukari more likely in some way. I don't know too much about these characters but correct me if I'm wrong
@@Guacamole2408 Thank you so much Jesus Christ.
@@handlessuck589 You're welcome
Where is the Sanae reference from? I know I've seen it somewhere but I don't know where.
I can just imagine Shinki getting more and more frustrated as the fight progresses, and eventually culminating with her putting so much power into her attacks and trying SO hard to kill you that she literally razes Makai to the ground in collateral damage.
I like to think that that's why Reimu and the yōkai got together and created the Spell Card Rules between the events of Touhou 5 and 6: to prevent Gensokyo going the same way if a clash of that scale ever happened again.
-Yes I know it was really the incident involving some vampire that may or may not have been Remilia before the events of 6 that caused the rules to be put in place but I can dream shush-
The perfect idea of a villainous breakdown mixed with a cosmic temper tantrum.
Shinki starts off confident that she can defeat this insolent Shrine Maiden, this "dog of the gods" confronting her now, and suddenly Reimu starts to gradually harm her more and more with her sutra volley. Shinki brushes Reimu's attacks off as mere scratches, but the more damage she takes, the more she weakens, the more Shinki's confidence withers, and the more Shinki starts to get angrier.
At the moment that her wings turn purple, she is starting to give into feral anger, and starts to let out indiscriminate attacks that starts to bombard Makai. I can imagine Reimu suddenly growing horrified as Shinki starts to rant and yell about how she can't be beaten by a mere priestess, and she tries to call out to her that at this rate, she'll cause irreparable damage to her own realm, but Shinki doesn't listen.
By the time Shinki has completely razed Makai and is unleashing her final attack, she has lost any and all care for anything around her and is screaming in rage, disbelieving as to how a mere human can best the queen of Gensokyo's equivalent to Hell, and why Reimu won't simply just die despite Shinki pouring all of her demonic power out against our heroic miko.
A common fan interpretation regarding the end of the fight is that Shinki was ultimately killed at the end of the battle, as she exerted so much magical power that by the moment she was defeated, she couldn't even cast a measly non-spell, and died of overexertion. And her precious Makai lay in ruins. Also, the battle with Alice in the Extra Stage happens in the void left behind in Makai's wake after Shinki pretty much annihilated it.
@@lancecurry7538 Shinki has any right to be angry since she does nothing wrong with this so called "demon invasion incident" when in reality it was Makai Traveling Agency's fault who let Makai people ilegally cross border to take a vacation. A harmless minor problem that turns into chaos because Reimu and Marisa misunderstood the situation, then doubled down by Mima who help just so she can take Shinki's throne and Yuuka who just want to fight someone strong. Shinki wasn't the bad guy. It was the main characters all along.
@@lancecurry7538 uh... Shinki's alive in the endings, though, completely contradicting the theory that she's dead. Hell, the Makai residents seem to be fine in Reimu's ending.
@@oranjaglad8648 With the amount of fan-content Touhou puts out that completely rewrites ZUN's narratives to create their own... I think there are many valid interpretations about the ramifications of Mystic Square, ranging from "nothing of consequence came from this" all the way to "Makai's daemonic invasion of Gensokyo completely changed the paradigm of the realm forever and forced Yukari to literally rewrite the rules on how magic worked in the world to save it from total annihilation."
Holy flying cheetos.
They don't. But Gensokyo.
The number of additional cheeto lasers on max rank is really quite intimidating |D
Just how does one dodge those GIANT HOMING WORMS?
How does someone dodge, such lazy art giant yellow paint homing worms?
By moving.
Adrian Tepes It's not THAT simple...
You either dodge them crazily until you run into a wall, or you play chicken with them like this guy did XD
Spam the bomb.
I always wondered why everyone thinks that makai got completly destroyed by Shinki just because there are flames in the backround of her final phase? for all we kow she may have only destroyed Pandaemonium
I might be late, but yeah. Even in the endings you see a bunch of her demons from Makai invade the Hakurei shrine.
She didn't destroy all of Makai, but she took out a large chunk of it. At a low estimate, everything in a several mile radius (at least) of Pandemonium was wiped out.
@@thegameglitcher2439 Hence why I said at minimum. I don't really know the exact geography of Makai or where things are in relation to each other, so I gave a vague estimate.
Yeah, the background only shows a couple buildings on fire and everyone is like "omg she destroyed the entire world!!1" which makes no sense to me.
@@NEETKitten What? How do you get a several mile radius from this? She literally just destroyed Pandemonium and set a bunch of surrounding buildings on fire.
They need to bring back these characters or remake these games.
Justice Varner They = ZUN ?
Yeah.
Justice Varner
So he's not them ! ^^
Them is a proper gender neutral pronoun that can refer to both plural and nonplural nouns :)
xJisJis Yeah but it's still one dude, him seems more correct.
Think about it. That is epic.
Reimu arrives in order to stop the demonic invasion. Here, the creator of all the devils is waiting for her, thinking she'll defeat her easy.
"Shrine maidens are just dogs of gods", she says.
However, her opponent is too powerful. She lets her demonic power control herself gradually, and actually burn and destroy her own demon world because of this fight.
If ANYBODY tells me this is just a little girls' game...
she didnt destroy makai, but i think pandaemonium got fucked
@@dfroster4014 she actually fucked up the Makai, in PC-98 there were no Spell-Card Rules, but REAL Deadly Bullet-Hell
By demon invasion do you mean gensokyo travel agency set up in Makai so demons could tour Gensokyo.
This is just a little girls' game :V
It's traditional Japanese themed Powerpuff Girls
Wow, this is not any battle, this is THE BATTLE that made the danmaku rules exist, just wow
And this is how Real Lunatic Players do them. No hitbox.
Who never needed a hitbox ?
If Shinki is in Windows era :
0:10 Nonspell 1
0:35 Spellcard 1
0:58 Nonspell 2
1:02 Spellcard 2
1:29 Special Spellcard 1
1:49 Nonspell 3
1:52 Spellcard 4
2:17 Special Spellcard 2
2:57 Final Spellcard
If Spellcards have names :
0:35 Heaven Sign "Darkness Ray"
1:02 Heaven Sign " Heaven Ayakashi"
1:29 Makai Sign "Ancient Fate Linked by Makai"
1:52 Heaven Sign "Solitary Hea-ven Breathing"
2:17 Hokkai Sign "Magician Recitation"
2:57 "Boundary of Heaven and Hell"
1:28 kanako... god that spell is so iconic to me as kanako's
What's the spell? Is that from extra stage?
That last attack reminds me a lot of Devil's recicitation... Hang on sec, Doesn't this fight take place in Makai?! Is it possible Byakuren's spell is similar because she learned it from Shinki herself?!
she did during the fight with byakuren she tells u that the spell that shinki used with the beams she learned that from her
I mean, Byakuren's attack is, as you said, called "Devil's Recitation"... If you think about it, it's just natural that it'd be called that. I mean, _of course_ it'd be a "recitation": Shinki/The Devil declared that spell first.
i like to think shinki's version is called "devil's incantation"
@@Wobuffet3 Other viable names: "Devil's Declaration", "Devil's Proclamation", "Devil's Decree"... To me it will, however, always be known as "The Harbinger of the Spell Card System"... Like, I know that it was canonically Remilia's emergence that forced the creation of the Spell Card System, but meta-wise, Shinki's penultimate attack was -- aside from EX stage Alice -- the last big attack we saw from Touhou before Rumia declared the first Spell Card... and, who knows, maybe Alice unleashing her full power in TH5 is what rewrote the PC98 canon and turned the Devil a Vampire? They do, after all, have some things in common, Shinki and Remilia. **glances at meido brigade**
@@GrahamChapman interesting theory but remilia is pretty explicitly someone else
1:51 This phase... This fucking phase.. Pain. In. My. Ass.
Undefined Fantastic Object = Mystic Square: The Return (Too bad nobody of MS cast didn't appeared ;-;)
That hell laser/bullet wall spam has to one of, if not the best moment in all of PC-98 era.
Well done, veteran. You're still killing it.
One of the devil's recitation phase changes was perfectly timed with the music.
Haha... Point counter overflow GJ
I like how this was uploaded on 1/1/11
Ikr
1:02 yuyuko
1:28 kanako
1:53 sanae
2:18 byakuren
2:58 yukari
copied from Phantasm Records because the previous timestamps arent timestamps anymore
Shinki's just that cool that her attacks are given to other final boss characters (and Sanae)
@@icarusmarioFANAnd Yukari
Homing mayyonaise
lolz at the final digit in the score being in hexadecimal
Can I just go on record saying that the Shinki battle is one of my favorite boss fights of all time?
>it’s all because some demons in makai wanted to tour gensokyo and a travel agency came about because of it.
>shinki just seems to be annoyed by it as well, and promises with reimu to deal with it, but has to beat up reimu for being such a nuisance in her realm
and then she fucking burns down all of Makai???? I guess that just proves she can probably recreate it but jesus christ
I blame protags for misunderstood makai people going for vacation, calling it demonic invasion. Yuuka and Mima is even worse. Yuuka wants a good fight and Mima want Shinki's throne. I think this is one of touhou game where the protag were the bad guy
Am I the only one who hates the "Shinki destroyed Makai" theory?
You're telling me that the literal God of Demons is stupid enough to destroy a "large chunk" of the world she created just because she was fighting an intruder?
Just no... that sounds like something MatPat could come up with.
@@moh.syafrianabie8899 Also this is the game that made me question why everyone wants Mima back, considering how much of a jerkass she was in this game. I swear, she's the only Touhou character whose dialogue actually ticked me off.
@@oranjaglad8648 1. It doesn't make sense on Reimu's route since Makai is not destroyed on that route and the incident aren't resolved as illegal migration are still happening and even Shinki apologize to Reimu for not keeping her promise resolving the illegal border crossing problem (My theory is even if Shinki create the residents of Makai, she give them free will so that's why she doesn't want to control her people she created). But on the other hand it makes sense on Marisa, Mima, and Yuuka's route since they have their selfish reason and on the ending it's seen that Makai people are afraid of them to the point of running away if they see those 3 individuals. And based on the ending, these 3 routes are chronologically happen after Reimu's route.
2. Either people wanted Mima back because of her relationship with Marisa, and basically want more information about both of them. Or people just doing it for the memes because I doubt people played PC98 games anyway, let alone understanding that Mima is a jerk.
@@moh.syafrianabie8899 I mean, assuming Marisa, Yuuka, and mima's routes happen after Reimu's, I feel like the reason the Makai residents are afraid of Marisa, Yuuka, and Mima is because of the fact that they've already dealt with Reimu and thus wouldn't have expected 3 other beings from Gensokyo to attack them in a row. Them being selfish wouldn't equate to Shinki deciding to drop what is essentially a nuke onto her own world. If anything, I'd imagine her being annoyed at them, but not THAT destructive. Hell, she seemed pretty calm while talking with the three in Stage 5, only getting serious during the final stage (and while she doesn't like what Yuuka said about Makai, she wasn't seething with rage or anything, and she even says Yuuka wasn't "important enough" to deal with for Yumeko, though she allows Yumeko to fight her anyways).
And even if you apply the fact that the SCR likely didn't exist, it doesn't make sense to me why people only apply the logic to Shinki and not other Pc-98 characters that are probably just as strong as she is (take Gengetsu for example; not only does she use GIANT lasers, but her final time-out is one of the hardest attacks in the series. By that logic, does she end up destroying the Dream World just because of two intruders who were bothering her and her sister?). Did they also cause meaningless destruction? Or do people overlook that fact just because Shinki's the only one who has a convenient background change?
This leads me to believe a) Shinki's even stupider than Cirno and Utsuho if mere intruders are enough to push her that far, b) other Pc-98 characters are just as guilty as she is when it comes to collateral damage, or c) people are taking a game from 1998 way too seriously for their own good.
Thanks Shinki for making the cheeto spell timeoutable
It looks like Zun was flirting with the idea of the spell card system here, the way Shinki does different attacks as her health bar changes color.
Those patterns definitely looks like the last semester of college.
Because this game made when the developer was in last collage semester
As someone who graduated from the university last year, I can say this is accurate. That reminded of me and my colleagues having to finish 3-4 projects and assignments at each semester. I'm glad that the overall hassle is over.
Well, Byaruken is Shinki reincarnated,most of her damanku powers came from touhou 5.
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Predicted touhou 12
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Dang I can't believe ZUN stole Sinoc's pattern of the Devil Recitation lel
>first ever run of MS
>last level, 1 continue
>I got this
>gets brutally murdered by wings and cheeto lazers
>f*ck
>Devil's Recitation
>death
>1 life left
>the pressure is real
*>mfw I die when shinki has 1 pixel of life*
xp F, dude. You can do it!
I can barely beat her on Normal T.T I wish PC-98 ran as smoothly on my computer as it does on yours. I have to deal with the screen constantly flickering everything that's not a background when there's too many bullets.
Helio Knight Ikr? they say anex86 is pure shit.
***** IDK, I'll try later, thanks ; )
Remember T98-Next, it's really good
4 years late but you have the right setup?
Tbf it runs smoothly on my laptop with windows 7 and 8.1 but it could be a skill issue since I'm unable to 1cc normal mode for once, I just want to unlock the extra stage.
My apologize. I mean boundary of life and death. /facepalm
Iwakasa's Moon Curse looks like an adapted version of this, while Boundary of Life and Death is the hax version directly based on this one.
I only now notice that one of yuyu's attacks is similar to shinkis attack at 0:59
Hey... uh... tell me.
Has any other Touhou game shown the damage your fight did to the environment?
Because seeing the way Shinki completely wreaked the shit out of Makai to fight you was fucking awesome.
if only there was stuff like that in Windows games.
This was pretty great pattern/level design for its time imagine something like this with modern touhou engines :D
i had to see the original Shinki fight after beating her in Artificial Dream in Arcadia and im glad to see the fight is just as crazy lmaooo
@zhulov3rz You can actually get rid of the input lag by properly configuring the emulator. I think the most important thing with Anex86 is selecting "sync" in the config and setting it to "1".
Wow It's The First Byakuren
Timestamps:
1:02 Yuyuko
1:28 Kanako
1:53 Sanae
2:18 Byaruken
2:58 Yukari
That Doesn't Means That Those Attacks Inspired Shinki,Right???
Also 2:14 Predicted Touhou 12....
Byaruken is Shinki Reincarnated....
Everyone is talking about Byaruken in these comments...
My question...since Shinki destroys Makai, her own world, during this battle, how is Byaruken even IN Makai supposing Windows canon is after PC-98 canon? Or maybe Windows canon is the true prequel...
Also, I know Byaruken was sealed 1000 years before UFO, I'm saying at the point of the battle.
***** Windows rebooted the series and thus PC-98 is only canon when Windows refers to it.
kirby krew It's still very confusing xD
***** Simple. Pc-98 is non-canon. So none of this actually happened. Only what is said in Windows is true. The characters still existed and everything, but none of the events took place. It's like a child's imagination. Which might actually be what it is, considering Reimu and Marisa were just kids at the time.
Officer Shinki Okay, I suppose that makes a lot more sense then it actually being canon.
That doesn't explain how Byaruken even knew about Shinki's spell in the first place, but it's better than a lot of theories I've heard.
***** As I said, all of it still exists, but the events never happened. There's still a Shinki and a Makai. So it's still very possible that Shinki taught the spell to Byakuren.
basically in 2:18 youkai satan is the original and youkai jesus remade it
So Shinki created the spellcards for any future character... Maybe she had a lot of special meaning to Touhou last bosses i think.
Wow... Did Byakuren get that attack too? I have a feeling many characters in the windows era and up got revamped spell cards from these older games.
Canonically Byakuren was sealed away in Hokkai, which is a part of Makai (You know, Shinki's world). So the chance that they met and that Shinki taught her Devil's Recitation is pretty high.
***** if she could create Makai, she can survive its destruction.
*****
I honestly haven't ever heard that stuff about (the dimension) Makai (is located in) collapsing in on itself during/after the fight with Shinki (nor can I find any sources backing up your statement that it did)... In fact, I even find it highly unlikely that it did. First of all since, after the events of Mystic Square, Reimu tries to talk Shinki into putting a stop to all of the denizens of Makai coming to Gensoukyou and secondly because the PCs visit Makai in UFO... I really don't think what you said earlier, about Hokkai being located "above" Shinki's Makai, makes any sense, either. If it's "above" Shinki's Makai in a sense where you can say that "the two as a whole is referred to as Makai", then it'd still be located in the same dimension. I.e., Hokkai would also have gone buh-bye along with Shinki's Makai...
(I also cannot find any sources backing up your claim that ZUN has said Shinki lied about being a god.)
GrahamChapman
The very first scene displayed immediately after beating Shinki is of her accepting her defeat at the hands of [insert character here] with an anime-style bump on her head. Torgo SupaFine just lives in their own void of fanon. Don't waste your time debating the trolls. ;)
rollanddev
Well, it's quite common within the Touhou community that the fandom gets the canon and fanon mixed up to various degrees (especially when it comes to the PC-98 games and how, or IF, they fit in with the main series' continuty). But, yeah, I guess I might as well ignore them. ^^'
Kaguya might be easy, but those final spells.... *shivers*
2:14 I've seen this in one of Byakuren's spells... Ha, nevermind, I played TH12 before seeing this.
Ayy yooo PC-98 bois are on another level 💀👍
Boundary of Human and Youkai.
A beutiful boss battle overall
This makes Byakuren look so easy.
Shinki and Byakuren, both in the Makai.
@Irrenhaus3 ...More like Byakuren's spellcard has Shinki written all over it.
2:20 Byakuren
Byakuren stole the precious spellcard
See ~
Byakuren feel like Marisa XD
Someone needs to do a Byakuren and Shinki ver of Marisa Stole the Precious Thing now
XDDDDD
Glitchy Woona ...Except it's more likely Shinki taught it to her.
huh, i just noticed her attack at 1:53 is just like sanae's 'daytime guest stars' in touhou 10 :O
Forgot to mention Mokou
I think the score went so high it turned into hexadecimal
99m was the maximum score in that PC-98 game back then since it was an 8-bit game.
@@oosha2000 Yeah, I mean getting over it sounds incredible to say the least as it's still super high
@@Charlie-pg5wy At least, better than crashing if it couldn't handle the overflow.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but that really doesn't look like human and youkai. If it looks like anything of yukari's, it looks like a very weak boundary of life and death. It looks a good deal more like a prototype of "Iwakasa's Moon Curse" to me...
Shinki isn't a youkai or a human. She's a goddess, and she literally made all of Makai by herself.
no gods no masters no hitboxes
that second to the last attack, its the same as Hijiri's.
I vowed to never touch this game again and to never remember the experience I had playing it..
(Until Now)
Humans shouldn't be capable of such amazing feats. xD Way to go!
Homing snakes!
Why does this look like and sound like a sega genesis? No joke.
The PC-98 probably had similar (if not slightly superior) capabilities. I really don't know much about it.
The pc98 uses YM2608 (opna) chip
and the Sega genesis uses YM2612 (opn2) chip
Badass theme song. XD
Wow... you are really, really good.
Unpopular opinion: I love PC-98 games, graphics, bgms and characters no matter the difficulty. Don't get me wrong, I love those aesthetic graphics regardless of the flaws, modern graphics wouldn't fit in such old games due to hardware limitations and because windows didn't reach Japan at that moment. I'd love to see those characters back in Touhou 20 assuming it came out, yes ?
That score though.
B2,352,890
Meaning...
112,352,890
Bro knows how to convert hexadecimal to normal integer. Correct answer
02:35 Hijiri Byakuren 😀
Wow, I never thought cheeto lasers could act up like that on max rank. Good job. :o
I gotta start using these savestates before you take all the good accomplishments on video first. :3
Wait did she use the same spell card as Byakuren? The devil recitation..?
Giant Play Doh Worm
So in PC-98 the spellcard rules didn't exist until Touhou 6
Basically they're fighting for life and death right here. I mean, Reimu as a human and a powerful ass shrine maiden she'd actually stand a chance against Shinki even without spellcard rules.
This also applies to Marisa, which is surprising, given how weak she sees herself in the Windows games.
And then there's Yuuka. She stomps Shinki and asks for a better fight.
Who knew you could make a Touhou game for the gameboy?
Okay zoomer
how does 2:58 relate to Yukari? I think it relates a little more to Mokou..
@Irrenhaus3 Huzzah, ambiguous phrasing. :V
There's no "proof", there's just opinions. I find Orin easy for example, but that doesn't mean I'm "wrong".
0.16 Elis from HRtP ???
shinki is easier than yumeko tbh but those godamn homing cheetos
That give a Darius Gaiden flashbacks
1:02
1:28
1:53
2:18
2:58
>hiscore B2352890
Er, *what*
Maximum value in the 90s game was 99m back then. Any attempts to bypass the max would change the integer value to something unusual better than crashing.
lol the score counter goes to hexadecimal
That's how the 90s game value works lol
GG 1cc
Is it bad the only thing I thought while watching this was lolcheetos?
How were these visuals even possible on a 90s PC?
i have same exact questions when i played this game
Come on ZUN, bring Shinki back to Touhou~! (Disappointed from Touhou 12)
@happytreefriendssuck No. She just learn a couple of things from her
Lol there's so much diference between Touhou 5 and 6 O:
Yeah
I don't see any difference from normal o_O
Mabey I should stop playing with you~
This
This is why makai is empty now
Wait.... what sound enhancing mods u usin?
It depends on the emulator setup settings. You can choose either midi or fm 86.
1:05
What, no. You aren't reading that fast. Stop hacking life.
before eosd, was there no "focus"
Max Wang There was. It was introduced in Touhou 3, I think. Either that or 4.
There was focus in mystic square ^^
It existed since Lotus Land Story (Touhou 4)
LLS introduced it but it doesn't show your hitbox.
Well, in the sense that it never actually _focused_ your firepower, no, there wasn't focus until Touhou 6. But in Touhou 4 and Touhou 5 you could still hold down shift to slow your movements.
Yo no entiendo japones
easy