Why Honkai: Star Rail Is Better Than Genshin Impact! | Honkai: Star Rail
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- I've made a couple of videos criticizing Genshin Impact's systems and how awful it has been to play as a returning player in its current state. Now, I would like to introduce to you another game that I hold in high regard, and maybe you'll understand why I feel the way I do!
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"It doesn't punish me for having a life out of the game." I have never seen someone put all of my problems with genshin in simpler words. I love the video and I think you speak your points really well, and I agree with all of your points.
Thank you very much! A lot of the Genshin players that haven't played HSR don't realize just how much they are missing out on. It's baffling how they want to die on that hill of theirs.
@@p.s.arlove1780 People who do that could be trolls. Just don't listen to them and keep this up.
Yeah only you need less of it in genshin and can convert it without sweating.
So in the end, genshin system if youre a long time player, isnt wore and maybe even better at times since you need less materials overall.
@@p.s.arlove1780the only reason why i wouldnt play hsr is bcs its turn based.
In regards of farming bosses - HSR weekly bosses are dropping just one type of material, while in Genshin you might get something you don't want/need, and you might be out of solvents. And then, you have to wait for another week, and pray that you will get what you actually need for your character.
All in all, good video, thank you for sharing your thoughts! :)
Thank you for taking the time to watch as well!
you can convert those. Yes new players wont have materials for conversion but older one wont have a problem. so in reality, systems are pretty much the same
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I play both but despite everything star rail has to offer genshin is still my main game as I just like the combat on genshin. I’ll still continue to play both since I’m mainly here for the story and characters. Def agree that Genshin could use more improvements tho.
Of course! We all have our preferences and I know of some people that prefer the more involved combat of Genshin Impact. Good luck on your journey moving forward!
6:05 I didn't think about the amount of endgame we've been blessed with until now. Were surely lucky.
It's actually crazy how almost all of my characters have some use in the gamemodes available to us.
@@p.s.arlove1780 Yes, it's good to see.
And now Genshin is finally getting a new end game mode in 2.7
i stopped playing genshin bc everything felt like a task i was forced to do. IM TIRED OF KILLING FUNGI TO LEVEL MY NAHIDAS TALENTS. but thankfully hsr has auto battle so i dont feel forced to do anything.
IM TIRED OF KILLING FUNGI TO LEVEL MY NAHIDAS TALENTS. - and youre not tired waiting for week or more killing antimatter legion? Sometimes not via calyx but actually going around hertas space station since maths dont drop from calyx?
It feels like people dont even think before saying things like that.
Yeah its fing tedious to farm maths. But guess what that goes for any game. GI or HSR arent better or worse theyre different. In hsr it's somewhat easier but you HAVE TO SPEND RESIN or 'ENERGY' to farm 99% of things which means waiting longer to level up charatcers. In genshin you dont have to spend resin to farm some maths.
@@vermilion6966u cleary didnt read the last bit of my comment because as i said, auto battle makes grinding feel less like a chore and more like something i can put on in the background while listening to music. also to your point about upgrading characters, i prefer hsr’s way of having pretty much everything in calyxes thanks to auto battle. and u failed to mention assignments because i can get all my character mats from there.and since everything characters need is in calyxes and cost trailblaze power hsr has a higher cap of 240 instead of 160.
in case u dont understand im a(somewhat) active player of both hsr and genshin, i just think hsr’s less tedious thanks to auto battle is all.
and im not here for an argument so this will be my only reply:)
@@imjuny It also helps that the mats drop when grinding the Simulated Universe and from doing the assignments. Thank you for sharing!
Many differences are apparent more in how much love the company or at least, their developers have in their game
From the Star Rail we have a team of people who really love what they are working at so they pull many new things, QoL, characters and things that arent really that necessary but it gives love to the game, plus a more grateful team by having way more and way better gifts
But from the Genshin Impact team, we have a group of overworked, burned and tired team with a director thats focused on profits and how they can make more money from the game, so thing like QoL changes, loyalty gifts or late game are just side notes, the director only wants profit and usually that involves by doing a sellable character and making awful units to make the better units seem more strong
Thats why when I played ONE time hsr, I just felt in love
Honkai: Star Rail deserves so much for the amount of work they put into it. One of the better Hoyoverse games for sure!
i mean honkai game series have always been hoyo fav child, it had been and always will be their main IP. Genshin might be the one that bring hoyo to the popularity but it was honkai series, especially hi3, that funded and laid all foundation for Genshin to succeed after all, yes genshin success do have some luck factor as they release genshin on perfect time period but releasing on a good time doesn't made them success if the game is shit, so it not a stretch to say honkai was the real MVP of hoyo in the end. That why honkai game like hsr receive a lot of love from hoyo and dev team more than genshin
fun fact, genshin also used to have 3 boss attempts per week, but when they ended up having way to many weekly bosses instead of 3 per week that you can spend amoung a few bosses now you just get 1 per boss every week
That doesn't really make sense from a player's point of view, though. Since not everyone is going to need to fight all of the bosses. What makes it worse is the fact that the rewards are random, so you have to wait a week or pray to heaven and back that you get enough dream solvents. Thank you for the information!
Is that true? I played since launch and the only thing I remember was bosses cost 60 resin, then when they added signora boss or after they made the first 3 30 resin
@@p.s.arlove1780 I agree, HSR is 100% better then genshin, I just thought it was in interesting fact
For the energy system, hsr is more resource extensive comparatively to genshin.
To make a better comparison video try to include all ups and downs of both.
Not necessarily. Although you require more materials for HSR, you aren't time gated and don't end up wasting energy waiting as you can access the necessary domains every day. The weekly boss materials are also set at a guaranteed amount without the unnecessary RNG that Genshin has with requiring different parts of the weekly bosses for different characters. This makes sure that you are also guaranteed value in every single run. Although I do get what you're trying to say. Thanks for watching!
Not really. HSR's energy regeneration rate is only 6 minutes compared to Genshin's 8 minutes. Additionally, in SU, you get 4 weekly free planar loot equivalent to 160 energy, while in Genshin, you can only get 60 free energy by purchasing the Transient Resin in the teapot. Over time, these differences add up significantly.
Moreover, in every version, Genshin only has double drop events strictly for Leylines and Talent domains. In HSR, these two are within the same category (Calyx), but there are also double/triple Planar drops and double Relic drops. These boosted drop events alternate between different versions of the games, usually at the end of a patch. In HSR, we have the option for planar and relics, which never happens in Genshin.
Additionally, HSR offers self-modeling resin and a guaranteed x3 weekly boss drop. The fact that HSR chars don't need regional gems & specialties is also a plus.
Not to mention for new players, events in HSR are permanent, meaning some rewards from those events are always available.
The material count for HSR is higher, but you also get more of those materials relative to your energy.
One example of this is Genshin only gives 2 (or 3) boss material for 40 energy, while HSR is guaranteed to give 5 each run at lower energy cost (30 energy).
What I'm trying to say is that HSR already provides more energy and features which Genshin lacks, making it easier to build characters from the ground up.
@@-premula like i said both have its ups and downs its best if we all acknowledge them all and then compile it into its pros and cons
@@-premula Finally, someone who sees just how big the disparity is. Thank you so much for your insights.
@@kapeecoffee you literally didn't say anything
It really helps when you can stabbed the enemies in the back😁🤘
Ahh yes, the classic ambush tactic.
Star Rail is balanced around E0S1 or maybe even E1S1, you HAVE to get the lightcone for the character to feel complete, almost always getting a new mechanic or filling out otherwise feeling below average. The extra "generosity" HSR is memed for having is a lie, you have to pull twice as much or get worse FOMO. Having two different sets to manage means your stamina doesn't go as far as you think. This combined with the already extreme power creep compared to Genshin made me quit. I'm actually annoyed Genshin is starting to copy bits from HSR, as the power creep is getting noticeable in that game as well.
Also i wanna ask, genshin, how, i know its prolly skill issue, bu how you get passed the barrier to entry part in monstadt where you cant explore or get anything outside monstadt yet, it was so hard fo me it made me not able to get close enough in the game to efficiently farm causing me to loose gaining my favorite character of genshin nahida on both her debut an her firs rerun, ive taken a break since then cause devices an stuff bu im scared to continue cause tha...
Oh, it must be because you aren't far enough along the story yet. It's been a couple of years since I was in that segment of the story, but I am certain that you need to level your AR to a sufficient level by hunting down chests and quests to proceed. I hope this helps and I wish you luck on your next pulls!
@@p.s.arlove1780 I already knew I needed to level, the problem I had was how, as li everything I could see was over leveled fo my level...everything...idk wha I was supposed to do...id explore around everywhere looting everything I could an I jus couln level up at a certain point...an y'know the story required a higher level so I couln do tha to level up either...
@@Yumiaia-26 Sounds like you need to build your characters a bit more. Maybe equip and level them up with artifacts with atk% as it usually works early. Don't think too much about the sets as it won't matter as much for now. Also, always save your fragile resin for until you get to AR 50, minimum. Better rewards at that level.
@@p.s.arlove1780 the problem I'm having tho is the content all being like lvl 16 or higher when I was lvl 13 last I played TwT
based, try to atleast give Genshin its points.
you didn't even try to consider what Genshin does better.
merely focusing on what it did wrong makes this essentially a bad video, I can't say I can do better but I can say as a player of both is that neither is better nor worse.
Arguing is meaningless but atleast make it make sense when we do this.
Although I do agree that the video is biased, this is a video that doubles down on the points I made in my previous videos. I cannot deny that Genshin is definitely worse in my eyes, but that doesn't mean it has to be for everyone. This is an opinionated video and if you feel like Genshin is better, then all the more power to you!
Genshin is still better in gear farming. Less substats to roll from. I can use an off piece with great stats to complete my set without fear of mission out on set bonuses. I only need 4 good pieces from a set instead of 4 and 2. Or the few times where it is 2-2-2. Introduction of speed has made it even more difficult to roll ideal substats. Where EM and crit was your biggest concern in Genshin.
Weapons are more interchangeable and have supplementary substats to help with low stats from gear.
No speed system that shows a preview of your next position and then changes right after making a move. Placing your predicted position for your move to be worst.
Or dealing with RNG that could immobilize or delay critical team members. Their ease of restarting a fight is more of a mechanic to balance the unfair nature of RNG.
Breaking shields take more effort in Honkai Star Rail. You have to break shields multiple times just to do normal damage. All mobs have this shield.
Yes, and no. Although there are more stats to roll for in Honkai: Star Rail, you also get to farm more. Yes, I agree that the lack of the ability to have off pieces can be an issue, but you get more relics because of the amount of energy you get daily. The mechanic of speed is designed to make you think more, and I actually kind of like it. You can tell which enemy units can affect your turn in battle and that comes from simply playing the game. As for the shields, I'm getting the feeling that you're playing the wrong comps because we are ironically entering a new "break meta" in which the biggest forms of damage come from breaking said enemy weaknesses. Thank you for watching, though.
installing hsr while watching this. (revenant made me do this)
Ahh yes, welcome back!
2:00 the difference is bigger than i thought.
Definitely. The disparity is that bad!
i started of loving genshin and as soon as hsr came out i began to realize how many flaws genshin has. sure we do get really pretty landscapes but the world quests are long and kinda boring... most of the content outside of that is archon quests and exploration, which i do love dont get me wrong but one re-occuring theme with this is that nothing has to do with why we obtain characters, the end game is barely end game and in the overworld theyre too powerful so in the end, most of the story content feels dry because you kill every boss that should be hard and powerful with just a second or two. in hsr we have a rich story with plenty of easter eggs to find, dialouges in story feel more engaged and you can choose if you want to be more comedic or serious in your delivery. the comedy in hsr isnt even cringe or bad which makes it so enjoyable, like i genuinely find myself laughing a LOT. the end game is just exquisite, i wish genshin would learn somethng from them
I'm glad you agree. Although with the amount of time that has passed, I am starting to doubt if they ever will listen. Thanks for watching!
@@p.s.arlove1780yeah, same its getting stale at this point especially if youve played for a while, the cycle every patch is just, get character, build character, story quest? then wait 1 1/2 month.
I am so excited for the release of wuthering waves because not only does it look good but it also might cause genshin's improvement. Good vid!
I feel the same way. Hopefully the ones who do give Wuthering Waves a try will finally wake up and see what they're missing out on. I'm glad you liked the video!
nice vid! i don't even play games that much but might try playing honkai🤩🤩
I'm glad you liked the video! Good luck on your pulls if you ever decide to play!
There will be more games that Hoyoverse will create in the future.
Btw honkai impacts also better!! It was the thing tha pushed hoyo into the limelight which obvi then genshin made hoyo popular bu honkai is great jus li star rail, honkai tho, id say is a better gold standard as its in a more open blank slate being jus a gacha game rather than a specific game type, an luckily jus li genshin honkai really impacted the gacha market, honkai made hoyo get the opportunities it earned some sister games are where it began bu id say honkai is where it all started popular wise aleas, regardless nice video
I haven't played Honkai Impact so I don't think I am in a position to talk about it but I have heard that it's great! Thanks for the insight and I'm glad you enjoyed watching the video!
Some things you didn't even mention is humor honkai has a dev team that actually makes funny dialogue options and understands it's player base the trashcan lore for example and on top of that they also listen to their community or are at least aware of what the community wants because in the 2.1 livestream they did a Q&A and awnsered a lot of REAL questions players actually had instead of some made up stuff and don't forget the quality of life updates they do regularly and the biggest one is upcoming with 2.3 making ornament farming less tedious according to the devs
Yes, and I regret keeping the video to be strictly around the systems themselves. Trailblazer is such a funny MC to have and it really feels like you have actual options when you're talking.
Nice vid!!
Thank you very much!
Wow! Nice vid
Thank you!
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few more point i would like to add:
- Meaningful dialogue and choice, even if most of it won't affect the overall story but it good to have that choice and fun to see char around you react to your choice coz we all know how goofy and fun some of those option are and many become meme of the community, compare that to genshin where 1 sentence got cut in half or three then present those cut part as dialogue option as if that have any different or present dialogue option when not needed
- Main story is overall better imo, it doesn't drag as long as genshin and trying to spoon feed you like a baby through paimon endless talk. HSR ofc still trying to feed you all needed information but it don't treat you like a baby and the role is also done by multiple char, not 1 char do all the explanation which is just better overall
- Hidden quest, this is something i think not many hsr player know about as well, there dialogue and ask for help or certain clue left from note, npc dialogue etc etc but it will not trigger any quest prompt or marker
- Fun and playable 4 star, hsr have did an amazing job with this imo, beside some special case(Arlan, Qingque imo), most 4 star newly release or not r all playable and not shit to play or not extremely anti player. Hsr player base still excited and looking forward to even 4 star char coz we know it gonna be playable and atleast average while in genshin, people rarely care about 4 star, especially when we saw the trend of really bad 4 star for few years with ofc some super niche one here and there
Oh, a hundred percent agree with all of these points. The trash can story line being integrated as canon lore was the funniest thing to me. Thanks for all of your input!
HSR is a pretty good game but i feel like people praise it too much.
Since once you complete the story quests and reach tb around 50-60 (and you will do it in about month of casula playtime) theres nothing to do just like in genshin. Only in genshin you have - as bad and dead as it is, an open world.
What do we have in hsr? Nothing. Just 'end-game' modes that refresh once a week or once in several weeks that maybe take half an hour weekly to complete... Now imagine if you didnt even have THAT. How shallow and dead the game woulde been.
Its not as great as it looks after all.
In genshin is even worse. It has quite literally no end game. So once you're done with everything exploring the dead open world map finishing the story. What do you do? Grind mats. At least HSR has SU, MoC and Pure Fiction to do when your bored, SU also has an index that you can finish and get stellar jades.
Not to mention the abundance of side missions you can do and also events.
(I still haven't finished some myself)
"Now imagine we didn't have that?", is a weird thing to say because we do. We do have game modes, ones that raise in difficulty every time you finish. We do get events and we do get rewarded every patch. It's nowhere near what Genshin offers and I stand by that.
@@p.s.arlove1780 "Now imagine we didn't have that?", is a weird thing to say because we do - its not weird because its literally the ONLY thing you have in hsr.
And hsr players brag about 'endgame' content like its a godsend when in reality, if they didnt have it, theyd had nothing because they dont even have maps to roam and collect trash there. But those who expect too much of that 'endgame' will be dissapointed because that endgame is the same 'do every month and forget'. Only simulated universe could be run weekly and thats it.
We do get events and we do get rewarded every patch. It's nowhere near what Genshin offers and I stand by that. - Its exactly like genshin. You really think genshin doesnt have events? lmao. Ridiculous. And dont tell me 'events are better in hsr' in the end of the day, unless you like the event, its only there to gather rewards.
"rewards' are pretty much the same in both ofg them, just in hsr you get them via mail while in genshin you get them in quests and events and by exploring new maps. But the total amount of primogems and jades are the same. If you dont believe it go on the videos where they count jades and primogems per patch, you will get around 12000 in each game.
@@user-mh5mz8tu3d Abyss is the endgame, and theres no difference between abyss and moc.
You clear both if you have good meta units without breaking a sweat.
At least HSR has SU, MoC and Pure Fiction to do when your bored - yeah for no rewards 'when youre bored' because it resets only once a month. And you clear it in like half an hour. And can do that without even touching the keyboard.
So once you're done with everything exploring the dead open world map finishing the story. What do you do? Grind mats. - Its exactly what i do in hsr after finishing its story.
Only I dont even have a world to go to, i just teleport to calyx, set it on auto and log out.
You praise hsr too much when its literally the same, you just trade open word for a bit of 'endgame' that resets once a month but in reality adds very little to the game itself.
Neither is better or worse theyre just different and gather different fans. And hsr wouldve been infinitely better if its world was at least seamless if not 'open'.
been looking forward to this.
I hope it holds up!
Is Honkai really that good? Haven’t played it yet. 😀
Oh, you're in a world of pure fun if you start now. Like, right now. Go!
@@p.s.arlove1780 I will! Soon ehe
as any gacha its good for about a month while you can play through the story quests.
Once theyre gone its just like genshin. Login in for 5 minutes a day and logging off
Gaining engagement is easy when you title your video with the intention of badmouthing Genshin
Genshin haters and Genshin widows will arrive like a flock of vultures to give bias opinions against the game
As someone who plays Genshin and Star rail and has played Honkai in the past, I will show you a correct comparison
In Star rail reserved resin is a waste due to the recharging time
While in Genshin you can save 200 resins at once to use whenever you want in domains
Star rail talents are 10x more expensive to level up because they have item requirements 10x higher than Genshin
Still on the topic of farming, relics are a completely inferior version of Genshin artifacts
not only do you need 6 pieces instead of 5, all the pieces need to be from the same set with no off pieces like Genshin
and even worse, 2 of these pieces are acquired in the most boring way of farming in the game, the SU
In gameplay you were totally biased
Genshin characters are not limited to paths or weapons, which gives you infinite possibilities and customizations
Exploration... you're kidding, right? Do you call that in Star rail exploration? Bruh
In Star rail the events are the same "kill these enemies with these buffs" in every version, and no, the "events" in the museum, alley, garden are not real events they are worldquests
Genshin has real events with different gameplay stories and minigames and its worldquests are infinitely better
Regarding the endgame, the biggest loss of opportunity in the game is the SU, which would be an excellent endgame if the devs hadn't turned it into one of the most boring equip farms ever
Pure fiction is a mode that no one does because they like it, it's purely out of obligation and gems
MoC is just an abyss
The other versions of SU are just a recolor of the same mode with a different UI that inorganically favors different paths
And finally, Ratio was just a tactic to get attention in the game awards, the anniversary came and what they gave us was a web event with a wallpaper as a reward
And with that, I can tell that you never really took the time to play Honkai: Star Rail. I did not title it that way for views, I did it because I genuinely believe the things that I say. Thank you for watching and you're welcome to come back anytime you wish.
@@p.s.arlove1780 I've been playing since day 1 and basically 100% the game + yeah bro I have a Kafka pfp and I don't even understand the game right?
I have all the characters except Dan, Ruan Mei, Aventurine
so yes I can say that this video was bias, you made it under the pretext of comparison but all I saw were personal opinions and bias
the only really good things about the game are the story and the amount of gems otherwise
equipment: an inferior version to Genshin
stamina: subjective
exploration: does not exist
events: the same every version with a different UI
endgame: only MoC and the swarm are real endgames, the rest are inorganic ways of giving value to a character + same gameplay with different UI
@@p.s.arlove1780I agree, a pretty bias "analysis" on his part, Star rail has fun endgames(except pure fiction, if you consider it an endgame) but that's literally all the game offers while Genshin offers exploration of giant areas, worldquests that literally modify the world, character story quests that actually are good( I still have a bitter taste in my mouth from Kafka's quest which was basically "quick Trailblazer do this or else Blade will be arrested" for 2 hours)
Apart from that, what do we have? As they said, stamina is subjective, you can save it for later in Genshin and in Star rail you can wait 3x longer to charge 1 when the base 240 is already full
And for some reason, even though Star rail doesn't have large maps, the devs recycle the same maps all the time and never make new maps for specific occasions, in events, quests, endgames the location is always the same street of Belobog or the same area of the Luofu , in Genshin the devs make entire domains super detailed and themed, even for quests that you will only do once
Star rail also recycles enemy models all the time, enemies are always "normal dude" "normal dude with a gun" "big dude with a gun" "small bird" "ball" while Genshin has enemies with new models from scratch being specific to each region with unique movesets and lore consistent with the regions where they are located
Pretty bias tho
Wow! Honkai lover yarn?
Main game, main game.
No Paimon already makes HSR better than Genshin in my book. Plus how generous it is in comparison to Genshin “would never” Impact. The only reason I’m still playing Genshin is because I’m already invested in my roster. But I don’t play beyond doing my dailies and events.
The Genshin could never jokes never fail to get me. Thanks for watching!
If genshin did the same things like honkai it would he so good. I am currently 45 in genshin and 55 in honkai and like you said it is so much easier in honkai to farm
Definitely! I just don't understand why they refuse to listen when they've already shown what they are capable of. Thanks for watching!
is it tho? you have to spend resin aka energy tp farm 99% hings in honkai which means you will arm less and slower.
you also have to farm some things manually in hsr by going in and killing mobs one by one which is awful in this type of game.
i started a new acc in hsr and no, if your tb 0-55-60 its not better. Its the same and sometimes even worse since all maths are resin gated. SO you have to wait for weeks to level up characters in hsr if your newer to the game as well
@@vermilion6966 i have a max lvl 70 team perfect artefacts and all level max and didnt had anny Problems
@@iliasLol-lu1fr yeah lie some more xD
at tb 55 'perfect artifacts' your artifacts that are relics in hsr are just subpar 40 cr 80 cd at this point at most.
Perfect relics for hsr means having 70-80 cr 150-200 cd and speed of 130-160 on dps and various stats on supports like the same speed 130-160, energy recharge, eff res and break all in one and sht that you literally cant get at tb 55.
@@vermilion6966 yeah i know what perfect relics mean lol you dont need to tell me that. If you mean that perfect than no. I have every stat as good as it can be but the only thing i not have is speed.
Many of my max lvl friends said that my relics are perfect, i trust them bc they are way more experied then me and yeah i they said shit than mb
7:48 💯💯
We eating good every patch.
Because devs actually care
That definitely feels like the case.
Short answer: The HSR devs care. Genshin devs dont.
Honkai Star Rail 🦅🦅🦅💯💯💯
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