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Why Towns In Kent Are Called What They Are History Of Place Names
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In this video we explore the history behind the names of towns and villages in Kent and the question, Why are they called what they are?
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I live in a village in Kent called Rusthall, its original name was Rust Uuelle. Named from the colour of the iron water springs.
I love a spring.
My Great Great Grandmother came from Kent to Canada , not sure why but she did.
My villages origin means ‘church in the dunes’ and a village next to me literally came from a hamlet on a hill, to not leak my address let’s say my village next to me is called Gary, it is named after Gary Hill
You mention the sweetness of the Medway water. The River Cray was once very pure and a silk mill was established on it due to its purity.
Way back when I was at school in the 70s we were told that Gravesend meant 'End of the Grove' as there was a large Roman vineyard that extended to Gravesend (Roman hot period), Many street names in Gravesend have the word Grove in it. We were also told that Sevenoaks was a large Coaching house en route from Royal Tunbridge Wells to London that had 7 oak vats to choose your ale from as opposed to just 1 that was common in other coaching houses.
Aeglesham is very close to the name of my old English teacher. Who was from Kent, like me. Kent also has the best signpost in England, pointing to Ham in one direction, and Sandwich in the other.
Similarities with Serbian :
Dubros/dubris protokelt. (water) - Dubrava (name of a lot of places in Serbia)
Dover - Dubrava (name of a lot of places in Serbia)
Burna oldenglish (stream) - buri serbian (pee), burno serbian (stormy)
Del oldeng. (valley), Deal (town in Kent) - dolina serbian (valley)
Dea, dale, del = dolina.
Derwent (river) - drvo serb. (tree), Derventa (place)
Derwent, valley with thick oaks.
Derwent = drvo.
Darren/Trent - Drina (reka u engleskoj)
Drink is probably of that family, Darren, Drina, Trent.
Medway, Mead water - med serbian (honney)
Ash - jasen
Drina, river in Serbia
Domus Clamantuim Latin, an Anglo saxon tribe settled in kent and named their settlement Gillingham, which means the home of the shouting men. The white Invicta horse on the Kent county arms, dates back to the same tribe who settled in kent One of the warriors bore a flag with a white horse (odin) and Invicta means Unconquered.
I like that us Kentish men are from the vikings true strong manly men 🖕💪🏻🤣
Only yesterday (6/5/24) I noticed the river Nailbourne was flowing. This is a river/stream that only flows in very wet weather from a spring in Petham through to the Great Stour between Chilham and Chartham in Kent. I thought Ham was a shortened version of Hamlet.
Came across this by chance. It's amazing and fascinating. Bet you two would be awesome at a quiz night. I knew about the town I live in now and loads of the history of it but didn't know about my home town of Folkestone.
You guys are brilliant. I've added your video to our FB group British History Documentaries.
Thanks for your kind words Karl, they're really appreciated.
I love this. It's like when your at the pud and 'the lads give out info'...... Excellent. 🤔
Years ago when I lived in Paddock Wood, an old-timer told just that the ending DEN originally meant a hog wallow, then it came to mean a farm with a hog wallow.
Fascinating
Excellent work lads 🙂 I live in Womenswold, Kent 😮
I remember being told that Swanley meant the wood where pigs live. Swan meant swine (pigs) and Ley meant wood
I have got many ancestors from Kent 👍🏼
They call me Clarke kent
Lying sick in bed and really enjoyed your video. Thanks for your hard work 🙂
I was under the impression that -wich / wick / wic meant 'market, trading-place', so Sandwich = market on the sand, Greenwich = market on the green, Woolwich = market where wool was traded, etc.
My Grandmother's maidens name is Kent. I always assumed that it was where her family was from. However, she passed and we may never know.
Here Pete what about, places ending in den? Like Tenterden
'Woodland-pasture of the people of Thanet'. The Isle of Thanet lies at the far north-eastern corner of Kent. Thanet is an ancient name, possibly Celtic, of uncertain meaning. If Celtic it may signify 'bright island' (with reference to a beacon?), or possibly be derived from a root meaning 'thin'.
place-name (Unknown) Place-name
-ware (Old English) Dwellers.
denn (Kentish) Woodland pasture, especially for swine.
What about Tonbridge??
Great
The river in sittingbourne runs below the high street
Thanks. Im American so i didnt know much about my name
This is all very interesting. Cant forget the "enden's" of the area.
Gillingham wasn't mentioned? But it's the biggest medway town. Chatham is the smallest medway town. I'm confused
Deal- meanings
dæl (Anglian) A pit, a hollow; later a valley.
Would a figure holding a bright flame (sun/star) in its hand remind you of anywhere in Kent? With three other possible very related places? Maybe the lighthouse would be the figure holding the sun. Just researching.
Ash could also be a reference to Aesc (pronounced Ash), the grandson of Hengest and a leader of the early Jutish settlers.
I'm related to Kempe of wye. My uncle owns a 500 yr old family manor in wye. Class 2.
hi all i was born in willsborough hospital near ashford dad from rowling in a farmhouse mum from folkestone in a house we are some of the beers from kent all farming folk we immigrated to australia in 1966 .
I found your channel looking for kentish dialects. Since I am just reading Anglo-Saxons England by Frank Stenton I wonder if you know why Kent, Twente (NL), Westphalia and Lower Saxony (D) share the same flag / crest?
As I understand it the Kent horse is the flag of Horsa the first warrior/mercenary to come to England to fight the Picts and then decided to stay. As he was a Jute it is probable that the horse was his tribe symbol from where he was born.
Really interesting, I was born in America but currently reside in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, my great grandfather on my mothers side last name was Schmidt, German translated to English is Smith from profession of blacksmith and my grandfather on my fathers side was Ernest Francis Albert, my uncle is Kent Albert. Albert is surname from the king of Kent, Albert also has old spelling variations of Elthelbert and I think Elthered or both related to monarchs of Kent. A really interesting maybe if terrain topic is Saint Francis translated to Latin, will try not make things to long, do you have a Instagram I have a old globe map I could send you if you like maps
Deal might be called valley because the dover deal road goes through a valley? So to get to it from the larger town you have to go through a vally
High Halden, how does that tie in with Halden in Norway, was it named after the Viking Town in Norway.?
"Gate" means an access way or path.
Hey what about Meopham, Snodland and Wrotham. There's a City of Paderborn in Germany, has approximately 200 spring's. Not much of a leap that Bourne from our German cousins.
Would love to know where the Romney name came from or how the marsh with the name got the name. I can guess at the Old and New Romney names. I have ancestors buried in the floor of the Old Romney church,
strood is derivative from the name Stroud which was it's original name meaning mud
IM in the US, after researching my family name I discovered the first Cobb in America was Ambrose Cobb in the 1630s who came from Kent. I really want to learn more about the area and find out if theres still and Cobbs there.
Hi David, I grew up in the Cobb family house, in Margate which is now a public house. The Cobb family had a private chapel and graveyard on the same site. If you look at Margate cemetery, you should find more, the Cobb family owned many businesses, and I think in Margate there is still members of the family, hope you find out more, all the best.
@@leighstreet8298 this is AMAZING. THANK YOU
@@Davidrcobb hi David thanks for the reply, the Cobb home is now the Britannia public house, Fort Hill. it's in the area of cliftonville. Maybe you could find it on line.
I always hoped that Herne Bay and Herne Hill were related to Herne the Hunter
I thought -hurst meant a 'cleared area in a forest' village.
I always thanet was derived from the isle of death. Due to all the beaker burial's and the fact that people were banished to thanet as punishment. Also Hoath, i have heard crazy stories about its origin.
Swanley as well
How about Edenbridge on the River Eden. I was born there and lived the best part of my first 30 years there, schooling, playing, working. I was told the original meaning, but I might be wrong. Please add Edenbridge, thanks.
Deal flat? Mill Hill isn't that flat up to walmer? Of course I get deal has grown over the years, great film, very interesting. I look forward to more, I'd like to hear about the tunnels in the local area, especially the tunnels at Northbourne, because as a child my late brother and I managed to get in to them through a hole knocked in a wall in one of the cow stalls at the back of Northbourne Manor near the dryed up Northbourne lake, thanks.
iks productions explore tunnels in kent see them on youtube
Dartford translation means the place where cousin love and marriage to street dogs is the traditional.
I stumbled upon this video looking for an etymology for Lydd, a Welsh-sounding name for a place which is about as far from Wales as you can get without having to swim. Sadly I leave empty-headed. However the rest of the video was quite interesting.
Hi, I know this doesn't answer your question but I found this online whilst looking into the origin of the place name Lydd ... Lydd gave its name to Lyddite, a form of high explosive widely used during both the Boer War and First World War, most notably during the latter by the British. Lyddite, composed of molten and cast picric acid, was first tested at the military camp in Lydd in 1888.
@@TheHistoryProject Thank you! That is a much better answer than Wikipedia, which doesn't say.
Audio is too low guys.......
I have searched all over and cannot find where the name Tovil, near Maidstone, came from.
Tovil: Tough or sticky open land.(OE toh feld - Tobbeffeld 1218 - Toghfeld 1304 - Toufeld 1313 - Toffelde 1327 - Toffel 1374)
Info from Judith Glover book "Place Names Of Kent"
Lol it means shit hole
My made up theory around the medway bridge crossing owned by whoever you mentioned is that it reminded me of that nursery story about the ogre who gets angry at people trip trapping across my bridge.
Well the story gas to come from somewhere
Is Levelling Down a hill in Kent?
Sittingbourne here 🙂⚓️
I also grew up being told Gravesend/Gravesham meant place where the plague graves finished but looking up recently I learnt it was to do with the fact that it was the last harbour available on the Thames so ships would dock their off loading corpses, which is also where its link with Pocahontas is due to her dying on the Thames and being off loaded and buried there.
Utter rubbish. It either from the Anglo Saxon 'Reeves ham' Reeve being an official in charge or Groves end. The place the Trees end. But nothing to do with the plague as it was called Gravesham in the doomsday book some 300 years before the black death.
Hope this helps...
I also heard that about Gravesend. I would tell my children that if a ship's passenger, or sailor, died upstream of Gravesend they were buried on land, but after passing Gravesend, on their way out to sea, they were buried at sea.
Gravesend (named in the Doomsday Book 1086 which a copy was displayed in the foyer of the council) was named due to the book of grieves, as in, a book of debtors. My town invented (for a better word) the bailiff. Please feel free to check this, I was surprised to finally have a reason rather than 'that's where the graves from the black death ended'.
What about Teynham?
I've been telling people for years that Gravesend is called that because of the plague 🤣 I ain't changing my story now
I’m from Folkestone and I NEED to know where the stone is
Big one is in Greatstone
Small one is in Littlestone!
the etymology of the word belt is: "Belt: Old English, of Germanic origin, from Latin balteus ‘girdle’."
Incidentally, the river's name is spelled "Beult."
Here in Dartford we have the river Darenth and not Darren, not heard of Darren!
It's the River Darent. Just south of Dartford is the village of Darenth. Dartford in Latin is Darentivadum.
River Dart hence Dartford
@@robpurchase3904 Sorry, there is no River Dart. It was called "Darent Ford" which, with the local accent shortened to Dartford The ford used to be at the bottom of East Hill as you passed into the town. The River Darent over the years has been bridged and the banks formed by concrete so it looks more like a canal. A couple of centuries ago it would have looked more like the ford at Eynsford (also the river Darent) without its additional bridge for crossing when flooded. Eynsford is very picturesque with an inn close to the river.
Big up cranbrook beneden hawkhurst
Not aware of a Latin word "staro" but think there are nordi-tipe similar words: stor, stur
I like the flag of Kent. Odins Horse but whiteout the eight legs
Probably to do with Hengest (Stallion) and Horsa.
Interesteing I a American my fore fathers are from Kent “Beeching” is the name
what about Graveney? You never mentioned my village?
I think it was more towns and cities as there are a lot of villages my way not mentioned either, would make a good second episode though *cough cough*
From Judith Glover book "The Place Names of Kent"
""Graveney: At the green river. (OE Grafonaea 811- Gravenea 832 - Grafenea 946 - Gravanea 1006 - Graueney 1610 )
This was the name originally to the stream at Graveney running through a broad ditch which gave its name: a river flowing through a trench, or 'graven' ditch.It is recorded as Grafon each in 814. A native of Graveney Stephen de Graveney gave his name to Grainy Farm Hartlip when he held the manor there during the reign of Edward 1.""
No Woodnesborough? I'm hurt
What about sidcup
Didn't say why ham is near sandwich
Nailbourne flows through Littlebourne.
and Patrixbourne and Bekesbourne.
Bexley was thought to mean' the clearing in the box-wood.
Bexley is in South London 😉
It's a long walk
@@davidrichards9654 it's an even longer walk to Kent, so long it requires going on the motorway 😉
I played assassin creed Valhalla
I made it to Kent 😊
My aunt smoked Kent.
Sandwich:
Wick....settlement of people.
Sand....Built on Sand.
TRUE KENISH MEN DRINK TEA!!
And don’t forget ALE BEER
Kentish?
I was told many years ago that Canterbury came from the fact that all roads to CANTERbury for pilgrims came over the brow of one of the surrounding hills so the horses would speed up to a canter.
A lady I used to work with told me this, too. She said she saw it on a travel programme. She didn't like it when I told her how wrong she was. Canterbury used to be the county town (before Maidstone). The local tribe were the Cantiaci. Canterbury means 'borough of kent/Cantiaci. Anglo Saxon used the hard C.
Canter, as kn the speed that a horse is moving, supposedly comes from pilgrimage to Canterbury in the middle ages. As in, if the horse walked or trotted, the journey took too long, and if it galloped, it would get tired too quickly. So the "Canterbury gallop" was developed as an in between speed. Over the centuries, the original name was shortened to canter, in a similar fashion to how some local residents today refer to the town as "Canters".
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Who putthekentsignupin swanley
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Pete is mi dads cousin
Five arches how about that
I lived in eythorne, people were always pronouncing it wrong!
Crayfordbexleyheath erith
Great video but you most hythe
I am his son
Prats Bottom a town in Kent..
Ancient Roman gay hangout ??