Cohen was SO DAMN talented in her positions and interpretation of music. Truly a lyrical skater. For me, if somehow Cohen's perfect positions could be paired with Kwan's phenomenal consistency and emotional expression, we'd have literally the perfect skater. But both are pretty damn perfect in my book, although Kwan wins, for me, based on her ability to hold it together.
For a competitive athlete, ultimately the ability to be able to hold everything you can do together when it counts is an ability that trumps all other talents. Judging from an artistic perspective, though, Sasha was clearly (and in many ways still is) ahead of the pack. For an ideal skater, I would have thrown in the athletic ability of Midori Ito. So the jumps of Midori+the consistency of Michelle+the lines and artistry of Sasha=the perfect figure skater.
It's a moot point now, although she does seem to skate well on the pro circuit, but a sports psychologist might have helped Sasha when she was competing. The only stumbling block to her completing her jumps with any degree of regularity was mental. Lord knows the talent was there. The line, the flow, the edging, the reach, the flexibility, the musicality were all superior-"first rate," as Dick Button would say-so it was not a lack of talent that kept Sasha from coming down on one skate, on the right edge of the blade year after year.
I think her jumps are very problematic and her SS are not outstanding. It's not just the mental block. Her poor jumping techniques make her more conducive to falling.
Thoa Kun Every time I go there the sharp knives come out, but I actually agree. I do believe there were multiple issues.The talent was there but too much inconsistency, too many coaching changes, etc.
Michelle Kwan was the sensible type who never said no to challenges she could or couldn't compete. Sasha however, took huge risks and paid for them, not just by suffering from the crushing blows of competing, but she had completely redeemed herself by not immersing in competitions. She performed usually better when competing was not an issue. See all of her shows for proof.
@mlc2005 well, that could be true if one could pair the two skaters together. But each of them are special in their own ways and if I were to choose both, it would be so. I do think Michelle Kwan smiles more in her program- that is just her personality while Sasha tends to show more passion from the inside out. I would not however try to favor one over the other. Michelle Kwan however to me, is the best overall, while Sasha shows better visual artistry.
Being judgemental and making wild assumptions about a person from one sentence they wrote anonymously on a website doesn't equal "the truth". You don't know my background, education or experience. It's such a shame that you appear to be so rude and negative just because someone's opinion differs from your own.
+Angie Montreal And I might also add that a quick scroll down the comments sections shows you replying to many comments on this video purely for the sake of arguing with the person who commented positively about Sasha. If you dislike her so much, I wonder why you spend so much time frequenting videos that feature her skating, if not because you want to be argumentative and angry with anyone who enjoys her skating. Why not employ your time more positively?
You really could get into an argument in an empty room couldn't you? My original comment was that in spite of her falls etc I enjoy watching her. Now you've just said the you also like her a lot despite her falls etc. So you've just agreed with my essential point which was, "She's not perfect, but I like her". FWIW, I do know the difference between fact and opinion. I gave an opinion, "I like her even though she falls" (I paraphrase) It was you who chose to go on a rampage about her technique etc only to eventually come to the same conclusion that...guess what....you also like her! So what was the point in spouting all that stuff about her technique etc....apart from to assume that nobody but you knows as much about her skating? Once again, wild assumptions. You seem like a highly irrational and unreasonable person so there seems little point in continuing to address you.
I don't see why. Besides her damaged lutz, Sasha's jump technique was enviable: textbook positions during the takeoff (minus the Lutz), air time and landing, executed with an incredible high rotation speed and oh! those sustained landings with a perfect straight back were a thing of supreme beauty. What Sasha needed was a jump-confidence mentor (not necessarily a psychologist) and to correct her maligned Lutz.
Piznoc Tsauo Almost everyone did a flutz back then. And I think her problem was that she probably had undiagnosed ADHD, and she’s a perfectionist to the point where it’s detrimental. So she might have some OCD too.
I was also thinking that she needed to work hard on her required elements in order to gain these needed points that were quite important to her. However, the other thing is that she needed to focus more on these problem jumps and by clearly trying to make improvements. She had these chances when she was young and a budding superstar in the making, but sadly, she didn't do it. But now, she made her improvements too late to consider a comeback, although she might try again. We shall see.
Cohen was SO DAMN talented in her positions and interpretation of music. Truly a lyrical skater. For me, if somehow Cohen's perfect positions could be paired with Kwan's phenomenal consistency and emotional expression, we'd have literally the perfect skater. But both are pretty damn perfect in my book, although Kwan wins, for me, based on her ability to hold it together.
For a competitive athlete, ultimately the ability to be able to hold everything you can do together when it counts is an ability that trumps all other talents. Judging from an artistic perspective, though, Sasha was clearly (and in many ways still is) ahead of the pack. For an ideal skater, I would have thrown in the athletic ability of Midori Ito. So the jumps of Midori+the consistency of Michelle+the lines and artistry of Sasha=the perfect figure skater.
Kwan and Cohen --- the best of the best.
Best layback ever. Period.
I prefer Angela Nikodinov's most of all.
@@dinh5532 same. I think Sarah Hughes and Nikodinov did a better job at keeping the speed and not letting the leg drop like sasha did.
Sasha also had the best scratch spins..and her spiral sequences are iconic.
probably my all time favorite footwork sequence she has done. this and malaguena were two of my favorite programs she ever did.
Sasha and Mao made rachmaninoff proud.
It's a moot point now, although she does seem to skate well on the pro circuit, but a sports psychologist might have helped Sasha when she was competing. The only stumbling block to her completing her jumps with any degree of regularity was mental. Lord knows the talent was there. The line, the flow, the edging, the reach, the flexibility, the musicality were all superior-"first rate," as Dick Button would say-so it was not a lack of talent that kept Sasha from coming down on one skate, on the right edge of the blade year after year.
I think her jumps are very problematic and her SS are not outstanding. It's not just the mental block. Her poor jumping techniques make her more conducive to falling.
Thoa Kun
Every time I go there the sharp knives come out, but I actually agree. I do believe there were multiple issues.The talent was there but too much inconsistency, too many coaching changes, etc.
LWOPP i
Michelle Kwan was the sensible type who never said no to challenges she could or couldn't compete. Sasha however, took huge risks and paid for them, not just by suffering from the crushing blows of competing, but she had completely redeemed herself by not immersing in competitions. She performed usually better when competing was not an issue. See all of her shows for proof.
Even her falls are pretty though
It's true. Her musicality is absolutely phenomenal, and of course, her incomparable spiral sequences.
most beautiful layback
What rabbits eat and spirals. No one could touch her spirals.
@@jjh2456 her spiral sequences are insane! 💖
@mlc2005 well, that could be true if one could pair the two skaters together. But each of them are special in their own ways and if I were to choose both, it would be so. I do think Michelle Kwan smiles more in her program- that is just her personality while Sasha tends to show more passion from the inside out. I would not however try to favor one over the other. Michelle Kwan however to me, is the best overall, while Sasha shows better visual artistry.
Sound is off.
How ever many time she falls, I still prefer to watch her over just about any other skater.
You are an angry person. :-)
Being judgemental and making wild assumptions about a person from one sentence they wrote anonymously on a website doesn't equal "the truth". You don't know my background, education or experience. It's such a shame that you appear to be so rude and negative just because someone's opinion differs from your own.
+Angie Montreal And I might also add that a quick scroll down the comments sections shows you replying to many comments on this video purely for the sake of arguing with the person who commented positively about Sasha. If you dislike her so much, I wonder why you spend so much time frequenting videos that feature her skating, if not because you want to be argumentative and angry with anyone who enjoys her skating. Why not employ your time more positively?
You really could get into an argument in an empty room couldn't you? My original comment was that in spite of her falls etc I enjoy watching her. Now you've just said the you also like her a lot despite her falls etc. So you've just agreed with my essential point which was, "She's not perfect, but I like her".
FWIW, I do know the difference between fact and opinion. I gave an opinion, "I like her even though she falls" (I paraphrase) It was you who chose to go on a rampage about her technique etc only to eventually come to the same conclusion that...guess what....you also like her! So what was the point in spouting all that stuff about her technique etc....apart from to assume that nobody but you knows as much about her skating? Once again, wild assumptions. You seem like a highly irrational and unreasonable person so there seems little point in continuing to address you.
You are possibly the most ridiculous person I've ever come across in a comments section.
send her to Eteri
No. Worst idea ever.
she could be a champion pair skater but she would drive her partner insane...love her though.
I don't see why. Besides her damaged lutz, Sasha's jump technique was enviable: textbook positions during the takeoff (minus the Lutz), air time and landing, executed with an incredible high rotation speed and oh! those sustained landings with a perfect straight back were a thing of supreme beauty. What Sasha needed was a jump-confidence mentor (not necessarily a psychologist) and to correct her maligned Lutz.
Piznoc Tsauo Almost everyone did a flutz back then. And I think her problem was that she probably had undiagnosed ADHD, and she’s a perfectionist to the point where it’s detrimental. So she might have some OCD too.
I was also thinking that she needed to work hard on her required elements in order to gain these needed points that were quite important to her. However, the other thing is that she needed to focus more on these problem jumps and by clearly trying to make improvements. She had these chances when she was young and a budding superstar in the making, but sadly, she didn't do it. But now, she made her improvements too late to consider a comeback, although she might try again. We shall see.
Sasha had great flexibility and musicality, but her jump technique is wonky. Her unsolid jump technique was the reason she couldn't skate clean.
Sasha is like eating a bag of jelly beans. Sweet mostly at times but terrible once you get the black ones.
Donnie Darko This made me laugh.
#HotMessSasha
I hope you were 7 years old when you left that comment🙄 😂