The Most Powerful Android Device I've Ever Tested! - PS2, Switch, Wii, GameCube, 3DS / 8+ Gen 1
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- The Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 is Qualcomm's latest flagship processor and it is a powerhouse when it comes to emulation and Android gaming. In this video, we take a look at the all-new Red Magic 7s Pro with the SD8+ Gen 1 chip and the Adreno 730 GPU.
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-Red Magic 7s Pro Specs
CPU: Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1
GPU: Adreno 730
RAM: 18GB LPDDR5
Storage: 512GB UFS 3.1
Battery: 5000 mAh
Display: 6.8 inch AMOLED / 120Hz / 1080x2400
Network: Wi-Fi 6E
Bluetooth: 5.2
OS: Android 12
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I really wish they'd just permanently attach these controls and go all in on an insane gaming device.
*Edit for the PS2 section - I was targeting 3x, not 4x.
When can you make a retroid pocket 3 video
I prefer built in controls. Detachable controls aren't quite so compact and look less rigid
find a software master/engineer, make him install windows11 and linux/ubuntu/debian/armbian to top/admiralship smartphones and then make gameplay(fps) tests at steam games.(linux can play steam games too by proton experimental feature)
Some day... the market for dedicated handhelds may be niche today but it's growing pretty fast, can't ignore it forever
man... i really wish that too
something with more powerful chipsets like the snapdragon 8+ gen 1 or the dimensity 9000+ with 5g data that also supports phonecalls, that's a dream, or something more budget but thinner and of course lighter with something like the dimensity 920 and still with phonecalls and data
Really wish there would be a successor to the Xperia play.
Having portability and a phone to do regular things would be amazing.
I agree, if Sony made a solid phone with fantatic PS5 integreation and gaming acessories, they would dominate the market.
I had a chance to buy an unreleased XP2 prototype, but it's super expensive and no guarantee it can even function.
@@TakiUdon As a popular youtuber surely complaining to the right company would have some effect lol.
But it does seem like you got the idea.
Integrated gamepad would be amazing.
@@alexcarlone7967 I don't think it needs PS5 integration. I don't think phones are that powerful but obviously porting there ps3 games on android would be amazing.
@@alexcarlone7967 If Sony did It, it would cost thousands.
Impressive. Very Nice. Now let's see the Retroid Pocket 3.
Very nice. Now let’s see Paul Allen’s retroid pocket
RP3 will not be near as powerful as this one
Patrick your sweating !
Built in controls and price though.
@@henriquegaleazzi8616 you don't say!
Yeah buddy! Thanks for showcasing this little known device. I have the RedMagic 6Pro and over a year later it's still mind blowing. There's literally nothing I can't throw at this device that will slow it down with the 16 GB of RAM. I would love to upgrade to the UDC (under display camera) technology and truly fulfill a dream of having a very full screen phone. But this one has so little bezels you barely even notice it at all, it's like holding just a screen in your hand. Gaming triggers too? I'm all in LOL thanks for this Taki 🙏📲📱🎮🕹️💜💯
The ability to charge fast... Is an underrated feature. I'm coming from a one plus... Can't live without fast charging now
very bold of you to actually show unblurred switch emulation like that
TFW I buy a new phone with SD 8 gen 1 then a day later phones are released when a more powerful Gen+ 1 chip is out.
Wow, Dirge Of Cerberus runs full speed at 2x?
My Aya Neo Pro, Steam Deck, and GPD Win 3 all can't even run that at 1x without massive slowdown. Game seems to really take a lot to emulate properly.
Impressed.
Why do you own all three of those devices?
@@carltonleboss why not
Perhaps he was like me and got them all in hopes that he would finally find a GameCube/PS2 handheld, only to realize that even THOSE devices can't run everything at full speed, and would need a phone like this which can run them the best. For..some reason. 😅
As always excellent review. Looks like we have a new king of the gaming phones contender.
Taki thx for your videos I have the z fold 3 so don't need to switch phones but I enjoy your videos
holy moly!! This is actually holding 30 fps in breath of the wild. I really hope the skyline emulator makes some big improvements. But this performance really is amazing specially the CPU perf and isnt that far off from the AMD zen 3 apus either
3 years from now botw will be fully playable for a snapdragon 860 or 855 with little to no lag
@@bulletpunch9317 but thats mediatek, mediatek is only good for emulators *other than* skyline
@@bulletpunch9317 I know that
WOW looks great ! 👍
I just got Note 20 Ultra 5G donated from my brother and it can do all this!!! I am having a blast in AetherSX2 right now!!! So happy!!!! I have not tried Switch yet though. 3DS is smooth as butter too!
Hi John! I have same Smartphone of your, please share with me your experience (as i'm new in this and until now just tried Aether X2). It goes very nice! obviously @ 5x it's slow but is normal. Please tell me best settings and wish emulator are you going to use for Switch!. Thanks!!!
I am incredibly excited for devices once we get the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 as it has the new efficiency cores that ARM has FINALLY released. We were stuck with A55 for 5 years. Sadly it's on TSMC 4nm though and not their new 3nm.
ARM has been developing the ARMv9 second generation cores. But the ones we get next year (A715) are similar to this year's, with a minor refresh. All in all, they're about equal to the Cortex A78 but built on newer lithography and on a new Secure Platform.
It'll be on the TSMC 4nm node, which is the same/refresh as the TSMC 5nm. But it's still better than the Samsung node we had early this year.
So don't expect miracles. It'll be slightly better than the QC 8g1+, which was slightly better than the MTK Dimensity 9000, which was slightly better than the old QSD 870.
I'm still waiting for the Cortex-A730 cores, and TSMC 3nm. That's going to be a worthwhile upgrade. And there's also Apple's next-gen processor, which also got pushed back a year, and will debut in late-2023 as the A17-Bionic chipset and M3-family of processors.
TSMC 3NM is next year, not even apple has their hands on TSMC 3NM
Though I am waiting for SD7+G1, should be around the performance of SD860 for mid range phones
@@ekinteko I'm looking forward to the A510 cores replacing A55 more than I am the power cores and seeing effects on battery life for background tasks and idling.
@@Hobo_X Just as Bullet Punch said, the A510 and A515 don't have much improvement from the architecture side.
If there's any improvement it comes from the implementation and node shrink.
And while you may be disappointed with the A55, that itself is very similar to the A53. All the newer iterations simply trade power for performance, they don't actually extend the efficiency (not in a meaningful way). And I don't think there's anything on the roadmap from ARM for future improvements (eg Cortex-A530). Remember we are talking about a core, with 2013 technology, basically a decade old.
Contrast to Apple, who has been focusing less in their performance cores and more on their efficiency cores. And it shows. Certain tests yield a x3 efficiency advantage to Apple, they're able to run much faster AND on less power than the A53 and iterations. If you removed the two BIG cores out of the A15, it would still perform pretty fast, around 2017-levels, and have great battery life. Can't say the same about the QC 8g1+ or lower chipsets.
I've come for RP3.
Seeing the performance of this makes me wish they'd make a successor to the MOQI i7S. I've had one for years and its fantastic as a handheld for games/emulation and for use as a phone. The only drawback is that its on a Snapdragon 710 and is running android 8.1.0. If they made a MOQI i8 with up to date hardware, on the latest build of android, it would be an incredible handheld.
This is good to know as the new Oneplus is meant to have the same chip, I was looking at Steam Decks as I’m currently on iPhone but I may be swayed now when upgrade time comes around!
I heard one plus phones don’t heat up much either so probably comparable to iPhone and Samsung
iPhone can run roque squadron 2 at 1080 p tho which is insane when this has 18gb ram and it had to do native instead. It dipped down a bit too to 57 ish it seemed but iphone went to 54 but basically stood at 60 at a higher resolution . I’d say because of the processor that iPhone probably handles GameCube a bit better in certain games and certain other emulators but In general even as a daily phone (I have both) I prefer android all the way. More accurate options on android as well and windows only some accurate emulators are on iOS and mac
@@robmalcolm8042 I’ve toyed with the iPhone emulation (on a 12 Pro Max) and I was surprised by how well GameCube games ran but because of all the JIT stuff it seemed to want my PC on constantly which kinda defeats the object for me… may be different for those who were able to jailbreak! But yeah just going to wait and see what’s available in a few months, Samsung always give us the Exynos chips over here which never seem to live up to the Snapdragon
@@tylersands2368 oh yeah exynos don’t perform well in emulation like snapdragon Samsungs do. Definitely a difference. I got a older Samsung note 10+ 12gb ram snapdragon 845 it runs really well but have to fix the screen it got messed up since it had no case. I was playing final fantasy 10 ps2 on it so ended up playing 6 and 9 In the meantime. Also got a google pixel Xl 2016 which runs emulation decently but since it’s only 4gb ram and snapdragon 821 it can’t run ps2 or GameCube that well it’ll boot into Pokémon on 3ds but then slow down a lot pass the professor screen. I also got a iPhone 13 But yeah android is better for emulation even tho iPhone can run it well since it’s using a pc and having to refresh the app etc so often to me it’s not even worth it especially since theirs more console emulators on android as well iPhone doesn’t have a good ps2 emulator and it has no switch emulator or 3ds
@@tylersands2368 good thing about android is the convenience your able to emulate pretty high into the ps2 gen which is impressive and even Nintendo switch being on there now makes android a very useful emulation tool I never have time to be on a console or pc cause of work and family now so I need more time to play and being portable and able to pick up from anywhere helps
I actually would mind if the phone was a bit more bulky to fit a big fan and battery, but don't know if they should remove the camera, as I don't really us it all that much. The only problem I see is being able to fit a full on control into the phone, my only thought is that if they could fit the ps vita buttons and be able to slide them out to the slide.
Good to see u testing Grandia 2,i feltlike my phone couldn't handle higher FPS but it seems to be default 30 lol...
a question:5x on the PPSSPP is 1440p?I forgot the resolution scale on it...
Thx for test,man,many people had trouble w/SD 8+ Gen 1 but this new revision makes me consider getting a high-end phone.
i would love if you did a video comparing all the current best emulation devices vs the swtich/ switch light for both performance and value. the switch can be made to emulate too
But isn´t that only old switch consoles pre 2018?Honest question cause i thought the newer couldn´t do it.
I am happy to see Snapdragon 8+Gen1 's performance
This is the first time I've ever watched one of your videos. I frankly enjoyed it, thanks. By any chance, can you direct me to a link on how to configure the gamepad for Super Mario Galaxy 2?
nice review.....I agree, until skyline catches up, egg ns is the best for emulation
Hey there! If you don't mind, could you link me to where I could buy that 3.5mm audio jack adapter? I still use a phone that uses a headphone jack and it could be useful.
Technology has come a long way!
Just purchased a Red Magic 6s Pro with SD 888+ instead of & 7S Pro because of diff in price. I think it's good enough for me. Asus Rog was too exp, & it's performance is slightly less as well.
I’ve heard red magic has software issues not sure if it’s even true but I’ve heard asus has hardware issues which to me is much worse as that can have more impact on longevity than software
@@robmalcolm8042 ye there are too many cases of Asus Rog Phone 3/5 dying and not booting up anymore
I didn't expect to be able to play switch games on phone great have to buy a new phone to play monster hunter stories 2 on phone probably have to cut down on meals for a next few months
World's first portable gaming console with some phone features.
And you can do eggs on it too. Win-win.
i really wanna see doom eternal being run on the skyline emulator
Can a company just add an integrated slide out control pad like the Xperia Play? Then I can die in peace 😂
Does the razor kishi v2 cover the redmagic fan? Is there a controller that allows air flow that is usb c?
Do you have a link for the headphone jack adapter?
Which is the game controller? And the device attached to it with the green jack, what is that? can u share their amazon links or where do you bought them? Thx
I have aethesx2 on my xiaomi pad 5 and i love it verry much :)
Crazy .. I was running most gamecube games and esp. res 4 in dolphin ios @1440p on my 2018 ipad air. Shocking 😅
And u play switch games on that ipad too right LOLLL
@@MikesLifee No I play those on my switch or my rtx 3080.
@@charlyy1337 surley
Waiting for Razer Edge Handheld gaming with Snapdragon 3GX Gen 1.
Still no normal Switch emu for android :( Devices like these would be so awesome for that :D
This phone plus a telescopic controller is all you need for a handheld emulation device.
The 7spro came out right after ROG6, I'm guessing they didn't change much except the chipset? I got the rm7 because my rog 2 died and i couldn't wait, but i might see if i can sell it next month for the 7spro
They bumped down the screen from the RM7. The RM7 technically has the better screen of the two. The colors are more accurate and it is brighter (it's the one that I like the most). This combination of new processor and different AMOLED panel gives a 40% power cut over my RM7, so that's much better than the 30% advertised from just switching to the 8+Gen1 alone.
@@TakiUdon At this point, there's very little difference between the latest QC 8g1+, and other flagship chipsets. Even the QSD 855 holds up pretty well.
The exception is going to be emulating PS Vita games, and NSwitch games. But those emulators aren't there yet to make a difference, and by the time they are ready, we would have a much more powerful chipset available anyways. I would get this chipset moreso to get perfect Wii emulation (x4 upscaled ?) or lower systems.
I said the same thing years ago when the Cortex A72/A73 hit the market, and people were keen on emulation. For the PSP and Dreamcast, buy now. For 3DS and PS2, don't hold your breath. That was my advice, and it seems to have held.
I ended up getting this phone.
Pretty cool.
Should of went with the 1tb edtion. That's not even on the site.
To bad no sd card expansion. Boo would of stuck my music on that. now 60gig wasted.
I LIKE THAT RIGHT-ANGLE 3.5MM ADAPTOR.
Need a review of that.
@@bland9876 The fact it's just about the width of phones is useful for telescoping controllers.
It came with an Ipega controller that I bought and it's amazing. I thought I almost lost it before I needed to film the video and I was going to buy a second controller just to get it again. 10/10 product.
@@TakiUdon what controller did it come with, so far I'm not seeing a right angle one like that?
found it, the 9167.
this processor really is impressive (i have the S Fold 4) all the way up to switch, the only annoyance is that you would need a huge amount of storage for all these games and i just managed to put ps2 games on a usb drive with the internal storage almost full, the only work around i see useful for this situation is a portable external hard drive that is able to be even powered by a type C port and is viable to take with you on the go with a gamepad lol
Ikr, sdcard with 2tb of storage can solve this😢😢
@@ProfOtaku39 you are beyond delusional, 2TB micro SD cards don't exist yet LOL if you want more storage more than 1TB you have to get a portable hard drive to do that
@@HUYI1 bro💀 we have 1tb microsd, 2tb isnt impossible💀
@@ProfOtaku39 ok then....
I use a backbone controller for my iPhone I love it on webrcade
How did you mapped the gamepad for the Wii games? How can you use nunchuck and wii-mote?
Any idea why the older Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 scores higher in Vulkan and Open CL compute tests in Geekbench?
Benchmarks dont mean much. The item is a crappy SoC and it has so many throttling issues its unreal.
I'm holding out for the Rog 6
Taki, what controller were you using in the video ? wireless ? what does the input latency feel like ?
Razer Kishi V2. I use it with my old Note 10+ and the lag is nonexistent. It's a Usb C connection.
the only thing that makes me go for gaming phones instead of handhelds is no phonecalls or camera....
most handhelds that do support 4g or even 5g don't support phonecalls and none so far have a decent camera setup, I don't like having 2 devices that basically do the same or are capable of the same things
Which is why I just have a controller for my phone
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 me too
Software is key here. Red Magic isn't known for updating their phones sadly. You'll either be stuck on the same android version as you brought it or way behind in terms of security updates. Which most phone manufacturers at least give 3+ years of as it is important.
But it’s way better than the switch
Their marketing is advertising 1 Android update, and security updates for 2 years. Let's see how that goea
@@davidcastano5516 but nobody can say the switch has better graphics than a phone
Nobody said anything about a Switch. You must be lost.
I can understand about security updates, but what do you get from the new android version? They are absolutely identical for normal user.
I wish they'd ship this phone to Australia
i swear i've seen this video title 60 bofuckingjillion times
i'm getting deja vu too but i don't mind, i want to see what my phone can play at full speed 😁
Where did you buy that angled 3.5 jack?
I'd like to know also.
How does the gen 1 fare in comparison to the gen1+?
It's difficult to find accurate comparisons
Tight
What about sega saturn ? How does Saturn perform ?
Hi, do you know if this phone fits in the first razer kishi with and without those rubber pads?
Thanks
I would have loved to see how well the zenfone 9 performs on dolphin.
Reviews say that the zenfone 9 runs hot. Seems like a great phone but not the best 8+Gen1 phones for emulation as it will throttle fast.
What settings are you using for Dirge of Cerberus. I have a red magic 7 pro
I just ordered a rog phone 5s to replace my rog phone 3. Im very excited! This is out of my budget
im waiting to order rog phone 6 pro :) i have rog phone 5 now its really nice .i also have rog kunai 3 gamepad and the rog cooler for it..
@@overoula i just got mine today it plays call of duty mobile great but i will have to get used to the os
Hi do you experience any motherboard problems on rog phones? I'm planning to buy rog phone myself.
@@raphaeltuazon2764 i dont know. It does get very hot but runs very well
What about the Wii U with games like Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze and Sonic Lost World.
damn, I just bought the RedMagic 7 cause in the EU we have to wait until august 2. to order a 7s pro and I'm incredibly impatient.. Hope I didnt screw up to badly by going for the regular 7 instead of the 7s pro
Yes u messed up
Also the redmagic 7s pro already was out what are u talking about?
@@TheMobiusFighter hell no?
@@TheMobiusFighter that doesnt mean the screen is better tho? The pro has a way cleaner and smoother screen because of the under display camera, also there barely are games that support 120 hz, especially not 165
@@TheMobiusFighter also pro has better battery, performance, faster charger, better touch sampling and its more compact
I’m still shopping around what buy was excited for this until I saw price forget it may have wait year before I buy one from what company is unknown
Taki! the RP3! We need it please!
Nice thumbnail. That's why I clicked.
Will this fit the red magic 7s with the metal case? will the usb reach? cuz it has a 1 mill reach. maybe 2 mill. idk.
hey Taki would u recommend this as a phone? was looking at this or the rog 6. not sure how well Nubia is with their phones.
Redmagic is better
Damn.. better than 80% of current gen PCs lol
Hope you begin testing Exagear soon. With the 8 Gen 1, gaming through Exagear may no longer be pointless
No GPU acceleration yet with 7xx GPUs in Exagear.
Compared to the new Redmagic 8 Pro is the 7S Pro still valid?
Tested with the best controller
Why the hell no MICRO SD Slot ?????
I know it's fustrating! Where do they expect people to store all these games? Smdh
why no wild life extreme stress test results? :(
Where did you buy the controller for the phone?
What is the game controller (model) you're using?
Can you please try installing Linux on the phone and see if you can use it like a Steam Deck
Does the controller block the rear fan vent?
what was the controller like thing thats attached to the phone? can i know the name?
Hi Taki. I'd like to ask you a question. Hypothetically speaking, how much could an Android TV box, similar to nvidia shield for example, cost with this processor but only with the necessary components to have the same performance as this phone?
You can dock the phone - it has a great feature with HDMI out.
I'm new to this stuff, how would a person do that exactly?
What is that connector where the green jack is connected to? What is it for?
64c? That's pretty hot. What temp range is ok for mobile gaming?
Most phones will throttle back performance in the 60s or 70s. The critical temperature for the processor is 100c.
@@TakiUdon thank you for the information. I've been playing Genshin on my ROG 5 at max settings and it was running at 50-60c and was wondering if I was harming my phone. First time getting a gaming phone.
@@chazman752000 When did you buy your ROG phone? The faulty motherboard issue is what's keeping me from buying ROG 6.
Very impressive but no price yet to gauge value.
Put this in like quest 3 or 4 lol. We're we need the power.
What controller are you using?
The only semi comparable thing I can think of would be the ROG phone
I would get a red magic phone if they supported micro SD cards
Ah, big deal breaker 😤😤 a shame
if you were to use a frontend for android what would it be?
For some reason I always wonder if powerful phones like this can run doom 2016
It would run it easily by the exagear pc gaming app on android
Well now RedMagic 8 Pro is
Does the RM7sP have a key mapper?
I have one question how is it that he is playing Yeager because it's still in the preregistration on tap tap for Android anyway, it must be unofficial version.
do you have any tutorial for emulations?
Rog 6 Pro Test 🙏
10 years since the gow collection on ps vita and we finally have gow2 at full speed
I am using Dolphin MMJR2 on my Snap 8 Android device, and with Wii games it recognizes my PS4 controller and binds, but Gamecube will recognize it and let me choose my key binds, but as soon as a GC game starts it says: “Gamecube controller 1 is set to None” and the PS4 controller doesn’t work. The touch screen controls are gone also. How do I fix this?
Hold your finger down on a game in the list and go to GameCube inputs. Redo every input that is there one-by-one.
Brother, please help me I know it's a bit old model. My problem is my Razer Kishi 1, is not working when I start the game on Aethersx2. It's working on the menus, but when I start it doesn't work. Where did it went wrong. Please help. Much appreciated
Came here for switch emulation
Yeah their phones are relatively cheap but red magic pushes out a new model every couple months. They're a smaller company. And they don't exactly focus on software or support. They're always changing hardware in each model to justify their new releases, think their cooling system is up to version 9.0 or so already. It's a huge gamble.
ICE 10.0 with Rm7sPro but the phone is justified by the 8+G1 SoC
The software is actually really good, cant say the same about support to, great phone tho
The fold 4 will have this processor in it won’t it?
yes it does and it's a beast even with gamecube games and gamepad 👍👍
I can't wait to see how the Galaxy S23 Ultra compares since they are doing some good deals on phone trade -in's and the Gen2 soc is binned for Galaxy. The other specs are pretty close or better.