This is Insane Android Performance! - High-End Emulation, CPU/GPU Turbo & Console Mode
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2023
- The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 processor is a monster for mobile Android gaming and Android emulation. In this video, we take a look at Android gaming, as well as PS2, 3DS, and Switch emulation on the new Red Magic 9 Pro.
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Leadjoy M1C+ - amzn.to/3tBbfH6
Gamesir G8 - amzn.to/3TvjjDL
9 Pro - shrsl.com/4claz
ELO Controller - eloesports.com/
Camera: amzn.to/3REWpcj
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A 50% bump in both openGL and Vulkan.
Android users are eating good this year. Too bad we dont actually get games that utilize this power.
Despite being less powerful, the new iphone can run resident evil.
It's a blessing and a curse. The few games that can push this chip lock their graphical options to select phones that are weaker than this. I wish we could get some more console ports from the last 5 years or so on Android.
I am pretty sure the IPHONE chipsets are still more powerful than the SD8 GEN 2, and much more optimized by a vertically integrated company and console like walled garden
@@jesusbarrera6916 geekerwan's Chinese channel made a video with benchmarks of all kinds at every wattage, basically a performance/watt graph.
Basically the a17 beats the sd8gen2 narrowly in multicore and by a decent margin in single core.
But the 8gen2 is quite significantly better in GPU score.
The 8gen2 is also a bit more efficient over all power draws. Both cpu and GPU.
But like you said, optimization does play a bigger role.
The new mediatek dimensity chip beats the 8gen3 in CPU, and GPU and efficiency over the entire power draw graph.
But the it would still be worse in an emulator like yuzu because the YUZU Devs didn't optimize for Mali GPUs.
So personally I think you are half right, iPhones applications are generally more optimized, like in the case of genshin impact, but that's mostly on the application developers and not apple itself.
@@jesusbarrera6916That's the advantages for being a walled garden, you only need to optimize your software for a single type of hardware. Android devs however have to compromise for the various types of SoCs
Beautiful transition marry Christmas
Glad to see as always phones getting more powerful as the years go by. The only issues I have is the support in both android software and security updates with this brand. It's the only reason why I stick to bigger brands like Samsung. I'd like to see more manufacturers support their devices at least 4 years down the line.
That's one thing that's good about apple. 7 years is the most generous out there.
With Google claiming 10 on their new lineup, (Google doesn't exactly have a great track record) more companies should follow in their steps (if they pull it off).
There is no security issue in Android, don't lie.
Why would it matter if a phone receives or not receives updates after 5 years? You are probably gonna upgrade to a new one anyway plus not to mention the phone is not going to explode if it doesn't recieve any updates ffs.
You guys are pathetic crying for updates,i seriously don't understand why it's so important for you guys.I personally have been using a phone i bought 5 years ago and it's essentially stuck with android 10 but i still use it everyday with no issues whatsoever,i use it for emulation too and it's better because android 11 restricted sd card storage.
@@-BarathKumarS k.
@@JunnyJai lol you know I'm right and don't know how to respond to my comment haha
How does the Leadjoy MC1+ compare to, say, the Gamesir G8? Would it be worth considering?
Got the Redmagic 8pro with Gen2 and 16GB RAM and its still overpowered so this is a skip for me.
But Redmagic is doing great job with those phones best phone I ever had.
Endless ❤ to Taki senpai
I bought the 9 Pro with Gen 3, Still waiting for it to arrive... so excited to test it !
Hey Taki, could you please share is the keyboard that used in the video? Looks dope!
amazing work!!!!
So far, the 8 Gen 3 just screams "wait for the Snapdragon 8 gen 4". Yes, the benchmarks are better, but there's nothing to apply it to. If it was the difference between getting PS3 and Xbox emulation, that would be one thing, but as it stands, it's just a superficial bump over the 8 Gen 2.
Plus, Gen 4 is looking like it will be a big improvement now that it will use Oryon cores by Nuvia
At this point switch emulation is that high emulation available for android. Which the last 3 snapdragon chips could run easily. I wish they would bring x360 and ps3 for Android
@@netnomad47ps3 is hard to decode
It's a pretty significant jump. The problem, and for quite sometime now, it's software optimization. The emulators simply suck, even on low powered handhelds you constantly see drivers and updates making all the difference in performance and the supposed problems of a device were not on the hardware front.
PS3 on pc still needs a decent amount of improvement, its going to be a long time until a mobile emulator comes out
Awesome video❤. which emulation software are you using?
setting the beast aside, how long will this phone be supported with OS updates and security updates? should you choose a samsung s24 ultra (coming next year) or get a redmagic if you are looking at performance AND security?
only 2 OS updates, security updates for 4 years though, also bands wise sucks in the states, especially 5g, it's what's pushing me away and the somewhat too large screen size, I prefer a more compact phone
I would rather get the Realme GT5 Pro or Vivo IQOO 12.
I can speak to this because I update all of the RM phones that I have whenever they have a new phone release (starting from the RM 6). Each phone got or is waiting to get a single main OS version update. For example, if a phone launches with Android 11, they will eventually update it to Android 12, but they will rarely update it to Android 13. You can get around this by installing an AOSP ROM, but the tradeoff isn't worth it. As for security updates, they release updates for the entire product line that I own 1-2 times yearly. You can go to their updates page for any of their previous phones and see the latest software update that they released to judge their track record.
RM5G is the oldest phone with a recentish update. That was last updated last year.
help.redmagic.gg/hc/en-us/articles/900000992366-RedMagic-5G
@@TakiUdon how are the bands in the states heard not much changed from previous model, so no 5g support and such here?
Wow £650/$700 is a pretty amazing price considering what some people have paid for less in previous years
Yeah, on point. But, for price to performance, the odin 2 is better, but the 8 gen 3 is miles ahead of the gen 2.
@@DaGreenDestroyer Odin 2's form factor limits it from an everyday carry device.
@@kninezbanks very fair argument.
@@kninezbanksOdin 2 is smaller than a Switch..or just buy a case? it ain't exactly heavy
This is more powerful than a Samsung s23 for like three to four hundred dollars less.
Was really tempted to get this phone which I doubt most will even really be getting to use as one but the odin 2 is just much more convenient for me and has all the power I need.
As he said, we're not even maxing out the 8 gen 2 in the switch emulators yet. The odin 2 and other 8 gen 2 devices should be fine for years before they start showing limitations for gaming. Even something a few years old like the SD865 still emulates nearly everything.
Id argue its much more convenient having a smartphone and game console in one package than having them as 2 separate devices..
@@fug33 nah. it seems convenient but it's a compromised experience. clip-on controllers never feel right and it's something extra you need to carry, often they need their own battery/charging, ergonomics are usually bad, and you're eating up your phone's battery while playing. this is why dedicated handhelds have become so popular recently
@@roastveggies "something extra you need to carry" - as opposed to having to carry both your smartphone and handheld gaming console? odin2 is the only handheld that comes close in power to red magic - odin2 isnt a small device and its easier to carry a snes 8bitdo gamepad and red magic than it is to carry both your smartphone and a odin2
not to mention its cheaper buying just smartphone and gamepad than it is buying a smartphone and a equally powerful handheld
@fug33 I know what you're saying to be fair but I prefer a dedicated handheld. I was clipping my s23 in and out a gamesir controller and got fed up of it. No dedicated "back button" either... the Odin 2 absolutely does all my gaming needs and I keep my mobile phone.. as a phone away from games.
When you were playing with your finger and the Galileo 8 haha that was weird. Awesome videos btw 👍
They need to improve the sensitivity settings for the right analog mapping. It's better than it used to be, but it's still no match for just using a finger.
@TakiUdon would u recommend thr g8 over the vagabond?
Once again Red Magic will be a great phone but people who want customization and longevity will choose OnePlus or Xiaomi for the open kernel source features. ZTE should release the kernel source of their phones at least a year later so people can install custom roms.
Ideally, they'd release kernel source within the first month of a release. There shouldn't be anything of value in there to stop them.
Not only that but ZTE is not very known to give software updates for more than a year. That's why I'm waiting for the oneplus 12. But the device is looking spicy
@@TakiUdon Hey Taki, what do you think of this idea?
As a consumer we have different ecosystems to choose from, and different device types. Instead of getting "locked-in" to one brand, we consider their strengths and try to buy devices with access to different ecosystems. That way we bypass arbitrary limitations imposed on the consumer, and don't miss out on some great exclusive content.
For 2024, I believe I found the optimal solution. At least in my opinion.
Form-factor - Ecosystem - OS
Phone: Google: AndroidOS
Tablet: Apple: iPadOS
Laptop: Microsoft: Windows10 Pro
Desktop: Open Source: Linux Dualboot
Console: Proprietary: Sony
In more detail; Device - Accessory
- Samsung S24+, Razer JungleCat
- iPad Mini 7 SIM, GameSir G8
- Frameworks 16, Razer V3 Pro
- Custom AM5 Gaming PC, ZorinOS
- Sony PS5 Pro console
If customization and longevity are your top priority, then I would go with Nothing over OnePlus. OnePlus isn't the company that they used to be, and their new phones and OS reflect that.
I wanted a Red Magic but they don't ship to my country and I bought a OnePlus 11😊
Dou you plan on reviewing that new G8 Gamesir controller shown in the video? Apparently it's the new top dog of the mobile controllers.
Top dog is that controller or the Vagabond controller with rumble. Neither of them have it.
@jaydev504 vagabond is literally an alien tho wide aff looking longer than the steam deck 😭😭
I don't recognise the gamepad at the 8 minute mark. What is the model? It is not mentioned in the description I think. It looks like a backbone, but it is different.
Here for the same thing
Same @@KaleZ5272
Looks like a modified variation of the Android PS5 Backbone controller
oversight on my part. The controller hasn't released yet. It comes out in a few days and it's from Leadjoy.
I want to ask about Gamesir G8. Would you be able to use that controller with iPhone 11? Or can you recommend some amazing controllers that can work with iPhone 11?
Oh it looks like you already have the Vagabond Elo. What are your thoughts about it so far? Im particularly interested in the dpad as it seems it's the only controller that places it on a decent position for your thumb
I couldnt believe the PRICE. I have a controller collection thats probably worth more than the PC and consoles they are for yet couldnt justify 150 for a phone controller. Gamesir G8 is amazing though.
@@ExGearUser it's way too expensive for me as well. Also the design and marketing put me off. But it would still be great to see at least one controller that puts proper care to the d-pad
@@ChiludoSmith No rumble as well. I like to Moonlight with my tablets/phones and not having rumble is a big dealbreaker considering PS/Xbox/SwitchCons all have rumble when Moonlighting.
This one definitely handles the switch emulators better than my s23 ultra
what’s the playstation themed controller you’re using at 8:04 ? it looks similar to the backbone but the buttons are black? Looks super cool! I couldn’t find it in the description unfortunately
Leadjoy MC1+
5:16 which game is this? Looks fun! Awesome video again!
I hope PlayStation 2 emulator developers on Android add code to support this new GPU to take advantage of that power
Hopefully whenever someone ports PCSX2 to Android again
@@13JacksonMrand hopefully there won't be any drama along with it
Good luck with that, aethersx2 is prob the last we will see of PS2 emulation on Android for years
@@wulf2863 For real. Not many people realize that most emudev projects are usually tied to one really skilled person working for free, so if they get fed up and leave, it can be as long as a decade until someone picks up the torch.
Given the price, I rather just spend $300 on an Odin 2 lol.
Hell yea, that has a better software than a damn phone.
@@zZiL341yRj736 I dunno about better software but given it's a handheld with A LOT of power for less than half the price? Ya know? Lol
Meh, the Odin 2 is not pocketable
But it's a separate device, if we want pocketable, there's the RP4 and RP4 pro.
With this thing you need to attach a controller which you need to stow somewhere and then take the time to attach it, put your phone on DND and drain your precious phone battery lol, ya know? For more than double the price.
It's a phone. A multi-use device. Not a dedicated one.
@@wulf2863
Can i call people on my odin 2?
I have the RedMagic and the Shadow Blade 2 controller (Gamesir G8) How did you get it to work with the Arena Breakout? When i try to use the gamesir app the right analog is so hard to use. The x gravity built in app is even worse for the right stick. Please help
Is there some kind of beef between Taki and AYN that I'm not aware of? It's been few months and still no review of Ayn Odin 2? I'm damn curious.
Did you attempt Tears of the Kingdom by chance? Will run at or around 30fps?
Love your channel by the way. Keep up the excellent work.
That appears to be a software limitation at this point on android not a hardware but I could be wrong. Gen 2 should have enough power to run any switch game
I did and it crashed. It's an issue that should be solvable with mesa turnip drivers.
@@zachman893I have a tab s9 (tablet with SN 8 gen 2) and it can only run TOTK at 15-20fps with drops. It isn’t playable.
@@John__117 I know it’s not playable, I’m saying it’s possible with the power it’s just a software issue…
Great work Taki, could you comment what grips you used for the demos?
The new game sir g8 is one of them, it’s really comfortable
ELO Vagabond, LeadJoy MC+, and Gamesir G8
Hello bro I like your videos I hope you will make a video sure Retroid Pocket 4+ and PRO :)
That is what I'm really looking forward to. A smartphone is still a smartphone, a phone lol.
The thing I like about your reviews is you actually test a variety of different games
not like these fake reviewers that only test the same generic cod mobile or Genshin impact🙄NICE WORK🤣
Can you livestream on this while using front camera and mic?
Awesome, always love your videos. Can you use a 3rd party launcher without losing any features? Thank you.
Yes, you can use a 3rd party launcher with this without losing access to the gaming features. The game launcher that this comes with can be bypassed after you add games to the list that they have. When you boot up the game from a 3rd party launcher, it will still have the gamespace UI around the game.
Hey Taki did you do a review of that Galileo controller you're using? If not what do you think of it?
I didn't review it, but it's good. It's the best controller that they make, and one of the few that even has audio output. Just wish it was a little cheaper.
I literally did a review on my channel. It's a great controller
We'll never know its true power until we get native android ports of some AAA games.
dont think this is ever gonna happen the closest we get to aaa is nintendo switch emulation
well iOS got resident evil ports so here's hoping Capcom can port to android as well, I would kill for some monster hunter mobile ports.
Never gonna happen,happens to apple because they pay millions for porting to developers.
You think google is gonna pay millions to get these aaa games to android? Lol,they didn't even care about stadia
@-BarathKumarS considering the fact that google is a multimillion company, yes why not? besides that most phones use android as their OS so imagine how many people will play the game. i think it would be a big win for capcom. on IOS only Iphone 15 and above phones can run such aaa games while on android there are lots of phones with high power.
might be possible in year 2050
If you want emulation get an Odin 2, they're built more toward a gaming device because these phone software tend to sucks.
Agreed!
Definitely... more than happy with my Odin 2... dedicated emulation console 😊
Odin 2 is an excellent device, I feel like I didn't need to get the Max over the Pro but I'm glad I did
@defaultuser9925 same here mate I got the max but need not of as I only want it for up to Gamecube and Ps2 emulation anyway. Very pleased with it.
What are your thoughts on using this as a primary mobile phone (in addition to gaming) for someone who doesnt use a mobile phone much beyond text/call/streaming?
This and the RM8 make for a good primary phone. My daily driver is actually an older Snapdragon phone from the parent company of Nubia. They have good prices on their phones, but you should expect to only ever get one Android version update during the life of the product. In this case, this phone will ever only see Android 15 at a maximum, with security patches throughout the year.
@@TakiUdon Awesome, good to know. I'll check out Nubia as well. Thanks!
What software are you using for the emulation ??
@TakiUndon what are your thoughts on the rp4
Bruh, I literally got a OnePlus 11 just last month. The processor on that one is powerful enough to run some of the games that I want to play.
I mean that's still a great phone.
@@arkhalis3682 It is. A SD 8 Gen 2 + 16GB RAM and it handles like a dream.
I have this issue with Red magic and retroarch, every time I hit the air triggers it is assigned to a short cut for screen shots, I’ve looked everywhere to change the setting but can’t find it. Has anyone had this issue and figured out how to fix it? At the moment I’m just using stand alone emulators now. But I’d rather just boot up retroarch. Or I there a better retroarch alternative now?
I thought the headphone jack was on the top not on the side on the red magic 9?
Which gpu driver did you used for Nintendo switch.......
New hardware seems to still be limited by android, hope future software and emulation development is able to take advantage of the power that this devices are capable of.
I'd love if this was able to dual boot Linux with working GPU drivers. This would be able to play a lot of Steam games very well.
@@TakiUdon🤓umm akshually android is built on Linux
@notfunny3397 reeeeeee
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Do we know if the software improvements are going to be coming to the RM8Pro?
RM8s Pro has most of what this does. The original RM8 Pro (with the normal 8 Gen 2) is due for a bigger update to Android 14 / Red Magic OS 9. Based on their track record with the other phones that I own, this won't come for another 3-6 months.
Love its design
I wish you add windows game emulation on your emulation videos like box64 + termux ( winlator and others )
I am waiting for a release where it isn't a closed source install. On a burner, I wouldn't have any issue just blindly trusting the scripts and binaries, but I don't want to showcase that if I can help it.
@@TakiUdon understand thanks for the replay
Oh wow Witcher III and Persona 5 running that well really surprised me
What is the price for this? Because the website doesn't tell you
Make a video on that black controller!
Bro do more videos about yuzu emulator with snap gen 3
looks solid
Anyone know heavy this is compared to the steam deck? My dainty wrists find the steam deck too heavy and it’s painful. I’m looking for an alternative that is small but powerful, that can handle PS2, 3DS, Wii, GameCube emulation
We are truly lucky to be able to live in this day and age, we cannot imagine what the future will be like
Can you use a micro sd for more storage?
Mate how on earth did you run minecraft java on this thing? Is that a thing now?
what is that white controller with ps buttons ?
His android games taste is so good. Is there anyone got a list of all his games?
what keyboard is that at 4:30?
Could someone who has Red Magig 9 tell me if its integrated fan helps it not to overheat on heavy emulators like Yuzu?
I really wish this had a microSD slot. Hopefully we’ll get a gen3 based Odin or similar type of system next year.
They and a lot of other phone companies make a lot of money from offering higher-end SKUs with more storage options. There are some practical reasons for not wanting to offer SD storage on a gaming phone, but not enough to completely remove the option entirely.
I'm just completely refusing to buy any phone without an SD slot. Still rocking my Samsung s20 FE because they removed the SD slot on the 21 and forward.
When I finally decide to upgrade, I'll most likely be getting a Sony xperia as they have not only the SD slot, but a headphone jack
@@robertfota4109 Same! It's the reason I still have my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. Never getting rid of it. If it breaks, I'll look for an open box/mint condition on eBay
What keyboard is that?
What’s the game OMW? Couldn’t find it on App Store. Can you please share the link to the game. Thank you for making such amazing videos.
omw.xyz.is/
Grab the APK from the Github link. You'll need Morrowind installation files to play, but everything works well on a wide selection of hardware.
Gamesir G8... This is the way... I have spoken ;p
this is the way
Can’t wait for Xenia on mobile, should be possible now
What is the HDMI panel you're using? Thanks in advance!
Peakdo Wireless
It's very strange cap 40fps in the pubg. any chances to unlock it?
If you want to have a higher FPS cap, they force you to lower your graphical settings to low/mid. Makes no sense with something this powerful and it's a stupid restriction. You can use a 3rd party app to bypass this.
What is that controller with Playstation buttons? There's no link in the description.
I thought it was already out, but it doesn't release for a few more days. It's the MC+ from Leadjoy.
Why do we not have wiiu on android? Is it just the same as PS2? Where it's be easy there's just no active development or is there something about it's architecture that makes it impossible or too hard?
No active development :\
0:07 Can i ask the name of the game?
Wanna see yuzu higher resolution performance. Minimum 2x res 1440p. Games like NFS:HP, INSIDE, HADES. Also 3x res for Burnout Paradise and NFS:HP
I forgot Red Magic even existed. ✨️
Thank you Taki, this was a cool video showcasing an update to what is out there now. Imnstill gaming on my zfold 2 im gonna see how it stacks up
man i would never can buy good phone the economy in Argentina is mess, i have a g9 plus and maybe never have the chance to change it... great videos i would try to dream about having this and less back pain, something that is great too being a a amoled screen and having 2000+ on pwm amoled screen from sansumg phones kills me eyes.
Don't get why you'd go for a phone when it comes to emulation on the go when you've got x86 handhelds around that will absolutely DESTROY this thing for less money too. Don't tell me it's "pocketability" since you've gotta carry a controller of some sort around making it just as bulky if not more so than a dedicated handheld. Seems like a gimmick and I don't really see why this is actually a thing at all tbh, but hey to each their own I suppose...
where is the SD slot??
Can you test winlator?
What's your keyboard Taki?
NuPhy Air75
Riview Ayn Odin 2 please
What controller you are using at 8:26 ?
Leadjoy MC1+
Sold.
game phones with out micros love my odin 2
is there active cooling on this thing? does it thermal throttle at all?
It got a build in fan. I write this with the 8pro+ with Gen2. Fan kicks in on heavy demand or when you wish to. Never got heat issues, like on mine old Samsung phones
Redmagic is really the best gaming phone on the market. Worth every penny.
It will never thermal throttle with the fan. If you use the profiles that I show, they select clock frequencies that can safely operate with or without the fan. If you use diablo mode with the fan, it won't throttle, but it will get hot.
My snapdragon 888 in the OnePlus 9 still plays everything i need it to. Red Magic does look like a possible upgrade in the future though. Its priced great for what you get. OFC the new OnePlus is looking great also. What is that Maya thing? an AI assistant?
It's besides the point of the video... But... The gamesir G8 is good..? Look so fragile... And it doesn't comes with a case like the others... Right..?
Bro that igpu on that phone beats ryzen 5 5600g and budget g processor cause it can't run pcsx2 anything more than 2×
what can the s10 do
At least you didn't put PS3 on the thumbnail like that clown ETA.
well, he rectified that 🤣
Tell me that didn't happen...
@@TakiUdon he did, but he changed it
@@TakiUdon yea it did, you can see it's one of the top comments
I used a Samsung s20fe (€150) and with its snapdragon 865 and OLED 120hz screen and stereo audio I can run everything up to the PS2 at 4x resolution... and I use it with a €40 gamesir X2. ...other than Odin and crazy price!
Wow. I would play Persona 5 again if it was that smooth on my phone.
What is "NS"?
I just bought about 100 of the little keychain "mini game players." XD
What about yuzu?
How can you play/emulate HL2 or Morrowind on the phone?
There is a source port launcher for HL1 and HL2 that runs the Windows game files. Morrowind has an open source project called OpenMW that also runs official game data. I used the Android version of it.
@@TakiUdon Thank you very much!
8:21 what game is this?
Does anyone knock what grip he uses at 8:01 because it's different then the ones in info section
I'm trying to figure this out rn myself. It appears to be a custom Backbone Controller, or he's teasing a model thats not out yet. 😮
I thought it had already released (which is why it was in this video), but it doesn't release for a few more days. It's an Android controller from Leadjoy.
I have this phone and the GameSir G8 Galileo. I also have other Android devices for emulation such as the RP4 Pro, the Odin 2, and a slew of other non android smaller less powerful devices. My phone beats every other Android device for emulation. I always have it on me. It has a better screen, speakers and has excellent battery life (6500 mah). The only down side is you have to use a controller accessory, but the G8 is fantastic and better than a bunch of handhelds in terms of quality of controls. With Emudeck and other software on Android now, these Emulation devices are becoming less relevant and always behind in power compared to the latest phone.
can you show us the legend of zelda BOTW & TOTK run in NS emulator?
BoTW crashes on this, but TOTK runs at a semi-solid 30 FPS.
next time maybie you can test for bettle prime
how did u install these games have tried for a while and alays says cant install
Heaven forbid they make SD 3 mini pc.
you can play psp PS2 and some Nintendo games on this + its a phone for all other things, it's win win
Odin 2 when?