No SD card is a total non-starter, I don't understand how these premium priced gaming phones keep losing features like that that you would actually want on such a device.
@@netnomad47 oh sure I do appreciate that the phone at least has a non-trivial amount of storage but at least personally I have a pretty significant amount of music and roms I'd like to be able to put on such a device without completely wiping out the internal storage. Once you start adding PS2/GameCube/anything newer games to take advantage of the improved specs you burn up your storage really fast.
There's 2 ports on the Rog phone, the under screen selfie on the redmagic is completely terrible and unusable and they have the worst software of any phone.
@@Over-mh3wr and none of those 2 ports can actually connect to a common gyroscopic controller.. the under screen selfie is usable.... which nobody buying gaming phone would care about either way
For the Alien Isolation to unlock the fps it need change the framerate limit on "preferences" file locked in Data folder. All phones are locked to 30fps and 720p with 85% of resolution, in any settings if not changed. Some graphics options are hidden on a xml inside apk file, like: DOF, SSAO, Volumetric Light, Particles, Planar Reflections, ShadownMapResoluitons and Upscaler (It sharpens the image at fps cost). It's necessary change on the apk file to make possible changes on the "preferences" file. (Because the app automatically reset this file) Just doing all that we could see the truth perfomance of this chip, because Alien Isolations is a very heavy game when all set to max.
I think even in the next year 8 gen2 is more than enough horsepower to satisfy your emulation needs which can be available in 500-600$ phones. Unless there is a new emulator which will support X360/PS3 emulator in the future you're good with Snapdragon 8gen 2.
That's because, even though it was years later & never actually implied, the Odin uses the "Speed Binned" (as it was called when the original ROG Phone launched) variant, of the Snapdragon 845.
With an SD card slot, too. The Odin is a bit larger than controller plus phone. At $300+, I thought the Odin was kind of a hard sale, because you might as well get a Steam Deck or a controller for your phone or something more pocketable (Cheaper) like the RP4 Pro. At the rate another phone bites the dust, it looks better, all the time. Asus can suck it, my next laptop will be Framework, 🙏Sony stays the path for phones cuz Asus just bowed out. The Ally SD debacle definitely means they are not getting my handheld pc money, either. Looking for someone else to bring the VRR. I know they want to pretend that it's just subscribe and stream everything, but a media library, it's not a small thing. Even if you were only androidgames can be really large, it's very similar to the jokes about how fast a few hands full up 512GB-2TB on a hilltop pc and mobile isn't far behind. Optimization, devs aren't given time for that. Seriously the way they gimp $1k+ pi
..much cheaper to own an Odin 2, which does the same thing. Watching all your videos, it comes off like you're not a big fan of AYN Odin 2, what gives?
@@TakiUdon I remember the mention, but I don't believe you gave a "favorite device" vibe lol... you're channel is one of my favorites, don't take the flak too hard! appreciate your time and your work.
@@K3nVVit's becuz the situation between taki and retroid because he claimed he created the rp3 I guess it rubbed some of the retroid employees the wrong way and from what I heard takigot very unpleasant messages and I think even threats from those employees I cant remember the whole situation but yea retroid and Ayn are owned by the same parent company so yea
I like the look of the older ROG phones because they didn't look like a generic phone. And the front camera hole bothers me, especially in a gaming phone.
I'm sorry but this phone is horrendous, how did they even come up with that camera bump shape, and with the redmagic being cheaper, flat, and having no camera cutout on the front this really doesn't look like a good deal
Never said this in any of your videos but thanks for leaving the. Link to that cable. I use it for my handheld gaming and it’s incredible. Might grab a backup. Really wish it came in black though. Anyways I’m always fascinated seeing the progression of emulation and just gaming devices
Think I'd rather have a Steam Deck OLED and a mid range phone for about $850 all in and buy some games in the sales. Better, faster emulation. And the Aether PS2 emulator is a dead project, so it's as good as its going to get in terms of performance and compatibility.
It is just amazing how powerful Android devices have got with time. Since i'm not very interested in modern games, I have been thinking that my next "console" may be an Android tablet, used for emulation and cool online multiplayer Android games.
As much as all of these new phones look awesome The fact that none of these new phones have a MicroSD card slot is an absolute deal breaker for me. And I love using Samsung phones because of Dex and my NexDock 360 wireless. But NONE of these new Samsung phones support SD cards so I'll ve sticking with my Note 20 Ultra indefinitely..
I can't enjoy playing anything on Android because of the input latency which nobody seems to feel but me. It doesn't matter if the controller is connected through Bluetooth or usb-c, there's a higher or slighter but noticeable delay depending on the game or emulator. Do you not feel it Taki? I can see it in this video
Very wierd. I don't feel anything. Using 8 bit do wired controller usb connected by usb to type c adapter and I get zero lag it feels like I'm playing on TV with console.
It may be a bit wonky setup but vertical setting with a pad thanks to the bottom usb should be pretty neat for DS, 3DS that heavily use both screens and vertical shmup. Kinda sad you didn't showcase that.
@@Android_EMU im just saying think of all the gaming features they could add if they got rid of the crappy camera and could also bring down the price of these devices.
I did. I was originally going to have an entire section on PC emulation, but the current Mesa drivers will crash anything. Kind of bummed that I won't be able to see what this can do for a few more months.
If you intend to use it as the phone it was built to be, sure, there's a lot of performance on the dollar. Otherwise you've got an over-specced device with software that a Snapdragon 8 gen 2 chip (or even gen 1) could already handle just fine. The Android environment is a real obstacle to the emulation scene, and at that price point you may as well look at a PC handheld for better software support.
Came for the controller, thanks for putting the AliExpress link, I'm getting the Galaxy S24 Ultra, ROG not available in my country, super expensive to import, it's like 3 x ROG Ally and thus not worth it
Taki... How you gonna tease that controller like that. Please tell us you're going to review it? At about 26 bucks it looks like a good value, but looks like no analog triggers
It's really a shame that we have all this power and little to no way to utilize it; which makes me really look forward to PC emulation development. I do sometimes wonder what would happen if these gaming phones could dual boot natively.
I can run dead space 1(non remake) on my note 10+ through winlator 4.0 and can get approximately between 3-15 fps consistently in the first few moments of the game where I've fiddled around. I have tried the wineD3d original wrapper and the DXVK2.0 wrapper with similar performance. No active cooling was used and inhanced processing option enabled
You know its weird. How some of the lower end games run like crap but more modern run great. All about its optimization. If only someone would program an ai to artificially enhance any game to run fully optimized no problem.
I always look for hdmi for my next phone currently I have a red magic 7, not changing it yet, I love to hook my phones to the TV with a controller and play as a console, they're great for emulation and media, shame that red magic and rog doesn't have desktop mode like Samsung, it's a feature very underrated. The lack of SD card support just for selling more expensive phones it's just obnoxious...
Red magic has Asus beat. ROG phones overheat and the motherboard melts eventually, also external coolers are bulky and ugly, having an internal fan is more convenient, and if you need it you can add a cooler, but I’ve never needed to. Also, the placement of the charger port is no deal for me. Air triggers are great, but having a controller plugged in is still better.
Can you try to emulate old Japanese PC 9800 Visual novels on the Odin 2? I never saw this on RUclips and it would be really interesting. Pleeeeeaaase! ❤😊❤
Surprisingly yuzu can run on an old phone from 2018 - current (SnapDragon 8xx).... I use my current Phone Xperia 5 ii to play "free switch games" ..... The thing is we only need drivers that match our processor... It takes me a day to find . I'm able to run on 45 to 59.9 ... (66fps sometimes) without any flickering and graphical issues...
I wonder how the nintendo switch emulator for android performs with crysis remastered for the nintendo switch. I have the physical copy of crysis remastered for my nintendo switch and no one mentions anything about playing crysis remastered nintendo switch version for android with the crysis remastered rom being played on android with the latest snapdragon processors or any of the flagship snapdragon processers.
I'll wait for a 8 inch tablet with the same SD Gen 3, phones are a bit small for my eyes, I have the redmagic 8 pro but I always prefer My Lenovo Y700 tablet and modified gamesir g8 galileo.
* 8 Gen 4 enters the chat *
taki ayyayaya
With 4ghz!
Gen 4 is just making over hype Qualcomm will disappoint us again
what minecraft is that
what means in few monthsgame will be changed??? its about power of 8 Gen 4?
This phone has more RAM and storage than my PC lol
No SD card is a total non-starter, I don't understand how these premium priced gaming phones keep losing features like that that you would actually want on such a device.
Losing the licensing fees to use the SD card storage medium are an easy way to cut costs for phone makers.
What you want is not relevant to a company. Removing the SD card “encourages” the consumer to buy the higher storage version. Basic marketing.
@@JB-tp6uj as the customer, what I want is very relevant.
I mean it is 1tb. But i agree i rather pay much less for 256gb with sd card support
@@netnomad47 oh sure I do appreciate that the phone at least has a non-trivial amount of storage but at least personally I have a pretty significant amount of music and roms I'd like to be able to put on such a device without completely wiping out the internal storage. Once you start adding PS2/GameCube/anything newer games to take advantage of the improved specs you burn up your storage really fast.
the REDMAGIC looks like a much better purchase, flat design, underscreen selfie and no por angle for the USB-C port
Absolutely. Also fits perfectly with the gamesir G8 (I also think the official controller addon is just a rebranded G8)
There's 2 ports on the Rog phone, the under screen selfie on the redmagic is completely terrible and unusable and they have the worst software of any phone.
@@Over-mh3wr and none of those 2 ports can actually connect to a common gyroscopic controller..
the under screen selfie is usable.... which nobody buying gaming phone would care about either way
@@Over-mh3wr😳🙄
Better battery*
Im having a lot of fun playing ps2 games on my s23 plus. Never actually knew that phones have gotten so powerful.
What games do you play
How hot does it get?
What emulator do you use and controller ??
How
Same here, except i use s23 ultra i use aethersx2 for ps2 games with ps4 controller
Odin 2 pro is where it’s at right now
🤫 Taki doesn’t want people to know it exists…
Damn what a time to be alive.
For the Alien Isolation to unlock the fps it need change the framerate limit on "preferences" file locked in Data folder.
All phones are locked to 30fps and 720p with 85% of resolution, in any settings if not changed.
Some graphics options are hidden on a xml inside apk file, like: DOF, SSAO, Volumetric Light, Particles, Planar Reflections, ShadownMapResoluitons and Upscaler (It sharpens the image at fps cost). It's necessary change on the apk file to make possible changes on the "preferences" file. (Because the app automatically reset this file)
Just doing all that we could see the truth perfomance of this chip, because Alien Isolations is a very heavy game when all set to max.
At highest 1080p this chip hovers on 57 fps
Not quite 60
But the 888 could only get 8 fps
So this is a ridiculously huge improvement in the past years
There's just something deeply satisfying about seeing runescape in non-runescape content. No other game gives that kind of feeling for some reason.
Truly!!!! Like THAT'S MY GAME!!!
I think even in the next year 8 gen2 is more than enough horsepower to satisfy your emulation needs which can be available in 500-600$ phones. Unless there is a new emulator which will support X360/PS3 emulator in the future you're good with Snapdragon 8gen 2.
Refurbished s23's are around $350 on amazon with warranty and prime
@@MikeVideos327 depends on the country bro. Even refurbished products are expensive in third world countries.
That's because, even though it was years later & never actually implied, the Odin uses the "Speed Binned" (as it was called when the original ROG Phone launched) variant, of the Snapdragon 845.
Hi Taki! Is there a reason usb-c controllers don't have a micro sd card slot? Seems like it could be awesome for the games to live in the controller.
Neat Idea
I’ll stick to the 8 gen 2 on the Odin 2 for a fraction of the price
With an SD card slot, too. The Odin is a bit larger than controller plus phone. At $300+, I thought the Odin was kind of a hard sale, because you might as well get a Steam Deck or a controller for your phone or something more pocketable (Cheaper) like the RP4 Pro. At the rate another phone bites the dust, it looks better, all the time.
Asus can suck it, my next laptop will be Framework, 🙏Sony stays the path for phones cuz Asus just bowed out. The Ally SD debacle definitely means they are not getting my handheld pc money, either. Looking for someone else to bring the VRR.
I know they want to pretend that it's just subscribe and stream everything, but a media library, it's not a small thing. Even if you were only androidgames can be really large, it's very similar to the jokes about how fast a few hands full up 512GB-2TB on a hilltop pc and mobile isn't far behind. Optimization, devs aren't given time for that.
Seriously the way they gimp $1k+ pi
Almost like phones are more expensive than gaming handhelds! Crazy? Ikr 😮
..much cheaper to own an Odin 2, which does the same thing. Watching all your videos, it comes off like you're not a big fan of AYN Odin 2, what gives?
Odin 2 was in my favorite devices of 2023 list....
@@TakiUdon I remember the mention, but I don't believe you gave a "favorite device" vibe lol...
you're channel is one of my favorites, don't take the flak too hard! appreciate your time and your work.
Because the Aya Neo Pocket S is coming next week and it will be a much better device 😎
@@K3nVVit's becuz the situation between taki and retroid because he claimed he created the rp3 I guess it rubbed some of the retroid employees the wrong way and from what I heard takigot very unpleasant messages and I think even threats from those employees I cant remember the whole situation but yea retroid and Ayn are owned by the same parent company so yea
I like the look of the older ROG phones because they didn't look like a generic phone. And the front camera hole bothers me, especially in a gaming phone.
Can I request that in your next device review to showcase Dragon's Crown in PS3 or Vita emulation? Thank you very much.
Hey! Isn’t this the guy that created the RP3? 😂
I wish that the same controller that you use would be available in Portugal.
What part of Portugal do you live in? I'm planning a vacation soon.
@@TakiUdonin summer go to Algarve. Just saying. Btw love your videos. Cheers from portugal!
@@TakiUdon I actually live in the Algarve, Tavira, and I'm a tour guide showing the place to visitors. Look for the yellow tuk-tuk! Big hug.
Whats the controller called?
@@TakiUdon Hi Taki! I live in the Algarve, and by the chance of fate show the city I live in to visitors in a tuk-tuk. Look for the yellow tuk-tuk! 😜
Tor thoses wondering, the gamepad used is the JK02 Telescopic
How about the round charger used?
I'm sorry but this phone is horrendous, how did they even come up with that camera bump shape, and with the redmagic being cheaper, flat, and having no camera cutout on the front this really doesn't look like a good deal
ROG badge is $200
ip68 makes it +$300 🤯
Got to have a micro SD card slot. 1tb is great but not having SD card support limits the speed of migration to the next device.
Never said this in any of your videos but thanks for leaving the. Link to that cable. I use it for my handheld gaming and it’s incredible. Might grab a backup. Really wish it came in black though.
Anyways I’m always fascinated seeing the progression of emulation and just gaming devices
No MicroSD, no sale. Xperia here I come!!!
Think I'd rather have a Steam Deck OLED and a mid range phone for about $850 all in and buy some games in the sales.
Better, faster emulation. And the Aether PS2 emulator is a dead project, so it's as good as its going to get in terms of performance and compatibility.
cant wait for the ps vita emulator to work fully and maybe a ps3 and xbox emulator one day
I can’t emulate Vita to save my life
It is just amazing how powerful Android devices have got with time. Since i'm not very interested in modern games, I have been thinking that my next "console" may be an Android tablet, used for emulation and cool online multiplayer Android games.
As much as all of these new phones look awesome The fact that none of these new phones have a MicroSD card slot is an absolute deal breaker for me. And I love using Samsung phones because of Dex and my NexDock 360 wireless. But NONE of these new Samsung phones support SD cards so I'll ve sticking with my Note 20 Ultra indefinitely..
What is the name of the controller? the Ali link not working
Search for jk02 gamepad
ELO VAGABOND
I can't enjoy playing anything on Android because of the input latency which nobody seems to feel but me. It doesn't matter if the controller is connected through Bluetooth or usb-c, there's a higher or slighter but noticeable delay depending on the game or emulator. Do you not feel it Taki? I can see it in this video
Very wierd. I don't feel anything. Using 8 bit do wired controller usb connected by usb to type c adapter and I get zero lag it feels like I'm playing on TV with console.
Taki friend, the gamepad, this model really cools the smartphone
It may be a bit wonky setup but vertical setting with a pad thanks to the bottom usb should be pretty neat for DS, 3DS that heavily use both screens and vertical shmup.
Kinda sad you didn't showcase that.
Hi Taki. Can you tell what controller brand is that? 5:19
The ali express link to an actively cooled controller is dead. Was that to the g8 or something else?
JK02 controller
Gaming phones should remove the camera modules and use the space to build a better cooling system.
Red magic 9 pro is a great gaming phone with built-in fan
@@Android_EMU im just saying think of all the gaming features they could add if they got rid of the crappy camera and could also bring down the price of these devices.
The future is now! Cant wait to upgrade from my lg g8 with Snapdragon 855 from almost 5 years ago.
I like how Nubia has the under display camera
NS games emulation environment needs a lot of time to be actually playable I think.
Hey man try out some PC emulation with mobox on this thing.
I did. I was originally going to have an entire section on PC emulation, but the current Mesa drivers will crash anything. Kind of bummed that I won't be able to see what this can do for a few more months.
I’ll stick to my Odin 2 thanks.
If you intend to use it as the phone it was built to be, sure, there's a lot of performance on the dollar. Otherwise you've got an over-specced device with software that a Snapdragon 8 gen 2 chip (or even gen 1) could already handle just fine. The Android environment is a real obstacle to the emulation scene, and at that price point you may as well look at a PC handheld for better software support.
Taki, which is your favorite android controller?. Maybe Gamesir G8 Galileo, Backbone One?. Thanks!
Kishi2?
Taki, how good is that control pad?
Do you know what that gamepad name?
@@MathewDeguzman-sm7oe jk02 gamepad
@@droidhacking ty
ELO VAGABOND
The flickering has been fixed via the new v19 turnip drivers
Came for the controller, thanks for putting the AliExpress link, I'm getting the Galaxy S24 Ultra, ROG not available in my country, super expensive to import, it's like 3 x ROG Ally and thus not worth it
The controller is a beast for $20. I am pleasantly surprised by my whim purchase.
@@TakiUdonthe link for the controller doesn't seem to work. Can you please update it perhaps? Thanks.
Whats controller?
You can actually bump up fps in alien isolation to whatever you like.
You just have to configure a file
Yeah, I saw that after when I went checking. I was too invested in the game. The clip that you see in this comes with 1 hour of additional footage XD
@@TakiUdon i see
I would like to see what a Snapdragon processor is capable of on pc.
Can't wait for it!
Make Redmagic 9 Pro vs Rog phone 8 Pro
Technology is crazy good and unbelievable specs
Curious what your thoughts are on the active cooling controller vs the gamesir one. Any suggestions Taki?
What controller are you using?
ELO VAGABOND
Taki... How you gonna tease that controller like that. Please tell us you're going to review it? At about 26 bucks it looks like a good value, but looks like no analog triggers
Pass , I'd rather buy iqoo 12
It's really a shame that we have all this power and little to no way to utilize it; which makes me really look forward to PC emulation development.
I do sometimes wonder what would happen if these gaming phones could dual boot natively.
GTA 5 would fly on this hardware. 8G4 is where things get nuts.
@@TakiUdon definitely. This thing beats out the 680M integrated graphics from my testing. 8 Gen 4 is just going to blow everything out of the water.
I can run dead space 1(non remake) on my note 10+ through winlator 4.0 and can get approximately between 3-15 fps consistently in the first few moments of the game where I've fiddled around. I have tried the wineD3d original wrapper and the DXVK2.0 wrapper with similar performance. No active cooling was used and inhanced processing option enabled
this phone has more ram than the total of pc in my office
Pc games can already be emulated tho with mobox it can emulate even gta 5 at 30 - 40 fps even up to 60fps
Heyy Taki, I Think You Should Make A Guide On How To Config Your Consoles, It Would Rlly Help
Excellent 👍
You know its weird. How some of the lower end games run like crap but more modern run great. All about its optimization. If only someone would program an ai to artificially enhance any game to run fully optimized no problem.
Time has come for wii u ps3 and Xbox 360
Brand new to the channel. I’m guessing that Taki lives in Hong Kong or Japan. Does anyone know?
I think you have to used Yuzu android version for Nintendo switch emulator that will surely work
Omg it actually runs Dirge of Cerberus!
Hmm controller review please?
Planning to get jk02, but not much video review found.😢
Waiting for that oled switch lite mode
Hey you're usingthe controller I've been seeing on AliExpress with the cooler on it. How do you like it?
What is the controller you use with built in cooling? I can't find it from your link.
JK02
What other phones do you recommend buddy? Is Lg v60 compatible? I want PS2 and Wii and 3ds emulation.
temp suffering will damage the phone screen n hardware a after long time
The switch category was 2 seconds long. You should make a more in-depth video on switch emulation.
What's the controller your using? Did you customize it?
I always look for hdmi for my next phone currently I have a red magic 7, not changing it yet, I love to hook my phones to the TV with a controller and play as a console, they're great for emulation and media, shame that red magic and rog doesn't have desktop mode like Samsung, it's a feature very underrated. The lack of SD card support just for selling more expensive phones it's just obnoxious...
Was that end comment a nod to Cassia?
I'm not familiar with gaming phones. Do you need to buy the peripherals (cooling, controller) separately and are they necessary?
if you have normal life, they are not necessary
if you are addicted and spend hours on gaming, or an esport gamer as profession, yes you need
still using my redmagic 7, still enough power for me
That's cool and all but where's the review for that controller, I've been thinking of buying it but haven't because it looks too good to be true
What is the name of the controller that has the built-in cooler? Thank you 😊
ELO VAGABOND
JK02 controller
Taki, what did you do to use a controller for Genshin Impact on Android?
Wayyyy too much money for me. I’ll stick with my big ass Steam Deck.
Dragon Quest 8 is amazing!
Hope the dev emulation scene will take on the near futur iOS sideloading opportunity
What is the best phone controller you have used?
I want to ask about Gamesir G8. Would you be able to use that controller with iPhone 11? Or can you recommend me some amazing controllers?
Super Mario Galaxy runs at full speed even with EFB Access off
Red magic has Asus beat. ROG phones overheat and the motherboard melts eventually, also external coolers are bulky and ugly, having an internal fan is more convenient, and if you need it you can add a cooler, but I’ve never needed to. Also, the placement of the charger port is no deal for me. Air triggers are great, but having a controller plugged in is still better.
can you share the profile you made for your ROG phone? or make a video explaining hwo to make your own profile?
Yeah, I can probably make a short on Twitter about it.
这颗CPU确实是牛逼里的天花板，可以模拟所有游戏了基本上，这让咱们更加期待gen4了。
i wonder how will s24u will perform under pressure.
can we expect similar results?
What drivers were you using for DOOM 2016?
Can you try to emulate old Japanese PC 9800 Visual novels on the Odin 2?
I never saw this on RUclips and it would be really interesting.
Pleeeeeaaase! ❤😊❤
What is that controller? Is it also a rog one?
Jk02 gamepad
Thry could've easily made a Android handheld.
So this “high end gaming phone” can’t even emulate a start menu screen at full speed from a game made back in 2005?
What app do you use for the overlay?
You should also test winlator
Surprisingly yuzu can run on an old phone from 2018 - current (SnapDragon 8xx).... I use my current Phone Xperia 5 ii to play "free switch games" ..... The thing is we only need drivers that match our processor... It takes me a day to find . I'm able to run on 45 to 59.9 ... (66fps sometimes) without any flickering and graphical issues...
Depends upon the games.
Have u ever review easysmx m10 controller? If not would really like for u to review it...
I wonder how the nintendo switch emulator for android performs with crysis remastered for the nintendo switch. I have the physical copy of crysis remastered for my nintendo switch and no one mentions anything about playing crysis remastered nintendo switch version for android with the crysis remastered rom being played on android with the latest snapdragon processors or any of the flagship snapdragon processers.
What is the app/overlay that you're using to display the CPU and GPU clocks/temps? I want to use it on my Redmagic 9 pro.
Emulator softwares come with that option in display settings
I'll wait for a 8 inch tablet with the same SD Gen 3, phones are a bit small for my eyes, I have the redmagic 8 pro but I always prefer My Lenovo Y700 tablet and modified gamesir g8 galileo.