@Feldubb So 10 gold gloves and 400 HR's which Jones is 1 of only 4 OF to accomplish and some how he's not one of the greatest? Jesus does the internet attract 🤡
Is it just me or is lindor overrated this year? I see his numbers and nothing jumps out at me besides his defense, offensive he’s having a good year year but mvp not close tbh
@LALAKERSHOW Lindor is having a phenomenal season while basically being the only option on a "ok" team. Ohtani is not playing the field while playing for a team that probably has the best chance to win the world series even without him. These things can't be overlooked.
@@loualbino5536 50-50 can't be overlooked. Been waiting my whole fucking life for a player to get there. If Shohei was black or American, he'd be the unanimous MVP
Someone said, Lindor had such a great season, we'll be talking about it for the rest of 2024. Ohtani had a season we'll be talking about for the rest of our lives.
@@Darin-j3w huh. the dodgers were leading the entire league in wins for weeks. they fell behind phillies recently, but thats still 2nd in the league. what u smoking bud
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu thats what óhtani fangays will remember to me it’s just a really expensive 50 homers, while hittin under 290😂😂😂😂😂 meanwhile the judge 323/459 with 53 homer 136 rbi…. With 1100 ops how exactly is ohtani all people will remember do u know anything bout baseball😂😂😂😂
@@ronalddepesa6221pitching is different than a position player. Not saying he’s bad but all around is a stretch when he’s never played a defensive position where he actually fields the ball. Now if he switched to play outfield and was great like everyone says then there is an argument.
@@Ja.Crispy who is a better all around player than him because I promise you cannot find anyone who plays better defense than him who can pitch 1/10th as good as him. You'd have a hard time finding anyone as good offensively as him. 55-55?!? Shits ridiculous.
I don't understand how this actually a debate lol. Giving Ohtani the MVP doesn't diminish the great season Lindor had. And honestly he probably could've won it if it didn't take him 6 weeks to wake up
@@ralphbuenaventura5905 -- Defense is haf the game and he doesn't have to play it. It is just like giving a pitcher the MVP and they only play once every 5 games. It will always be a reasonable argument. I remember a year where Edgar Martinez was flat out great and super clutch. I think they gave MVP to a player on like a last place team. I like 2 way players in sports where players are responsible for offense and defense. Ohtani is having a special season on a first place team so I won't mind him winning. I would just give whoever is second a very hard look. If second doesn't have big holes like bad defender, last place team, too many games missed then I'd pick whoever is second.
@@semi6544why are there always people like you … he is not just having a great season … HE IS HAVING A HISTORIC SEASON … People like you always end up looking waay wrong in hindsight… when it was always obvious once he cleared 40/40 …
Mookie Betts would be in the running if he had not missed so many games, too. He's worthy except for that. But Ohtani is so great and has achieved so much that MVP is his.
@@cococock2418First time? Each League gets an MVP. Theyre in different leagues…Bozo..Dipshi+…Ignorant🤡. If you’re going to call someone a bozo, you sure as hell better know what you’re talking about..
@@cococock2418judge don't stsrt hitting hr again he is going to lose rhe lead to a pitcher lmao. Ohtani will probably have more SB this year than Judge's entire career lmao.
I don’t know how anyone could actually think that Lindor deserves MVP over Ohtani. Lindor isn’t even top 10 in any hitting categories. If people are so obsessed with his defense then give him another platinum glove and move on
Lol this isn't a debate. Ohtani is the most natural ball player of all time. I played professionally with some of the great hall of famers like griffey jr, bonds, Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Canseco, chipper Jones and heard balls coming off all these players bats and not one has ever come close to producing the sounds ohtani pops off. Not even close.
Ohtani leads Lindor in 13 offensive cetegories, and Shohei Ohtani leads the NL in Runs RBIs Extra base hits WAR OPS Slugging and HRs. And defense in MLB means very little (makes 1 or 2 plays a game) It's not like the NBA were they play both sides equal, but even that no defense in basketball wins an MVP. Also In the NFL no defensive player wins MVP, in all sporst they look at offense.
That's the neat thing about Ohtani, he initially struggled both hitting and pitching-wise in his first spring training but he was humble enough to make adjustments. Talent will only get you so far as a pro because many pros are very talented. You need to be able to adjust to have a career.
I understand that we have to “have the discussion” out of respect for the other players who had incredible seasons (and to give the media Something To Talk About). But Ohtani is the most valuable player right now and maybe ever.
Nobody’s gonna remember Lindors 2024 season in a few years. Ohtanis 2024 season will be remembered for decades. They don’t compare. Argument about him not playing defense is pointless. Tell me about Kershaw, Verlander and Clemens’ offense numbers when they won the MVP?
I think Ohtani should be the MVP. However, saying "him not playing defense" is pointless, is the same argument all Ohtani's fans had when he was being a great pitcher. If Ohtani's pitching is what won him the MVP last year, why can't Lindor's fans use his defense for the same reason? The reason he was such a lock last year, was because he was MVP not because of his batting, not because of his pitching, but because of both.
Im pretty sure Ohtani could play any position (except catcher) and he would dominate there too. But the way the sport plays means you get the most value off his ridiculous batting and pitching.
If Ohtani doesn't get the MVP... baseball itself will lose way more than Ohtani will. Ohtani is an MJ/Schumi/Djoker/Verstappen level talent in baseball. This guy is must watch specially when he pitches
Folks, this is no exaggeration. Go and watch some of Shohei's outfielder footage when he played in Japan. The dude could field the ball so fast and throw it like a rocket for miles. Very impressive indeed!
Before the season started I said no way Ohtani is going to win MVP, just based on the fact he'd only be a DH. Now it's likely he'll win his third unanimous MVP, which I believe is unprecedented.
New Yorkers & East coast folks be hating cause Ohtani prefers to stay on the West Coast. Also cause he's breaking all of theur beloved Babes records😂😂😂
This is "suppose" his rehab stay home rest year due to Tommy John surgery. But instead he is out there making history becoming first 50/50 player. Like this guy is "injured" and he is not playing at 100% capacity.
Pople really choose a player based on their WAR? Did anyone care that John Olerud had a higher WAR than Mark McGwire in 1998 when he hit 70 home runs? Did anyone think Kevin Kiermaier was the second best player in the league when he hit .260 with 10 home runs and great defense? I Don't think people are going to talk about Lindor's memorable 2024 season that he hit ,270 with 32 home runs and 90 RBI. I don't know if people are delusional or just biased
Ohtani is the player u create a MLB video game. Fyi, Theres a working n personal life philosophy in Japan called KAIZEN. WHICH MEANS > CONTINIUS IMPROVEMENT . EVERYONE SHOULD BE TRAINED IN ALL DEPARTMENTS. AND THRU EXPERIENCE EXPERTISE IS GAINED
Ohtani sis 30 years old... this kid come on. This gotta be subconscious racism against asians. David Ortiz comments also down played Otani's greatness only because he is Japanese. If Ohtani were back or Hispanic, Democrat party would've hired Otani as a DEI president of USA.
Ortiz is entrenched in what’s his idea of baseball as the evolution of talents and skills to his bye gone era. Baseball is 200 years old and looking back and you’ll see players and skills made astonishing leaps in physicality and skill set evolution. Nostalgic is good, but present and the future is come and tomorrow is the future. Dodo 🦤 bird is extinct. Evolution.
I honestly wish he’d become an outfielder. I’m a Dodger fan. We have had 91 different trips to the IL by Pitchers since ‘21. Everyone knew Kersh’s arm was falling off and needed surgery before that playoff start last yr. We have had like 70 games started by rookies this year. Be a gold glove Outfielder/closer(maybe?) and try for a 60/60 yr. I have no idea how on earth we have the best record in baseball??? A lot of the credit has to go to Doc and the rest of the staff. Glasnow missed significant time Yoshi missed significant time Kersh came back in July and is now prob done Walker came back in June and is not himself Dmay out for 1.5 yrs with TJ and esophagus Gonsolin just coming back from TJ after over a yr. River Ryan just had TJ And the list goes on. How many more TJ’s can Sho arm handle? 2 already. I guess if he can still hit-which he obviously can following TJ surgery, then ride him til the wheels fall off. But if he were to focus solely on hitting, I believe he’d win multiple triple crowns and go on Judge like tears. I can’t believe we get to watch this guy. I can’t believe anything about him.
Our team desperately needs pitching, people getting so many IL trips is the reason why pitching is so valuable. Ohtani can bat even with an injured arm, that's the reason we need his pitching. Him throwing a no hitter in the postseason would be worth way more then a season's worth of defence. Look at where our team is struggling, it's not the offense or the defense, it's the pitching. Our team is good enough to reach the playoffs but we can't win in the postseason with a battered pitching rotation.
People are starting to believe in the greatness of Ohtani. I always knew it and began to buy his memorabilia back in 2020, after selling my condo. The only regret I have is not buying more.
Ohtani is great and deserves all the credit he gets, the only thing that bothers me is that Ozuna had better numbers most the year this year and last year vs harper... but yet rarely makes the conversation. I know exactly why, ohtani is the golden child and ozuna is lucky tobstill be playing because mlb for some reason decided not to blackball him. But when it comes to pure numbers.... cmon. You gotta atleast talk about Ozuna. And they (the media) dont.
Ozuna is woman abuser he doesn't deserve any promotion whatsoever. In fact he should be banned. Even if has better number than Shohei (which he's not) no one gonna vote for him.
Have you check the #'s lately??? Ohtani came back and beat Ozuna in every category. Batting average, RBI, HR. Dont hate the player cayse his game is better then yours
and ohtani is a pitcher. a great pitcherm you have a pitcher hitting 50hrs. yeah yeah he didn't pitch this season. he pitched last year and hit what only 45 or sth? lol
Andruw jones is one of the most disrespected athletes ever , the fact that this guy is not in the HOF is unbelievable and somehow its even affected his child , druw jones as the #2 pick behind Jackson holliday just had a great season in the minors yet somehow has fallen out of top 100 prospect list ...
Coach: What position do you play?
Ohtani: Baseball
The ONLY World Series that fckn matters:
Yankees v Dodgers. Period.
@@diamonddetails9445Dodgers vs Astros, rematch. Ill be wearing my Ohtani jersey with my Astros hat and socks
@@diamonddetails9445yankees are over rated trash.
He doesn’t catch. I played literally every position.
Same here 😂😂😂
Imagine one of the greatest center fielder saying he is a great outfielder. Ohtani is a great baseball player period.
That is a strong comment coming from Andruw Jones.
And his natural position is a pitcher, that’s insane
Did you really say greatest center fielder? I didn’t see Willie Mays or Ken Griffey Jr. say anything about Shohei (he is the MVP though).
@@FeldubbHe said "one of" the greatest which is valid. Learn to read before you get triggered, kid.
@Feldubb So 10 gold gloves and 400 HR's which Jones is 1 of only 4 OF to accomplish and some how he's not one of the greatest? Jesus does the internet attract 🤡
Lindor has a great season. On the other hand, Ohtani has a unprecedented, historic season.
Is it just me or is lindor overrated this year? I see his numbers and nothing jumps out at me besides his defense, offensive he’s having a good year year but mvp not close tbh
@LALAKERSHOW Lindor is having a phenomenal season while basically being the only option on a "ok" team. Ohtani is not playing the field while playing for a team that probably has the best chance to win the world series even without him. These things can't be overlooked.
@@loualbino5536 WS without ohtani? Stop smoking crack dude they needed him just to keep the division lead much less a WS.. 😂
@@loualbino5536 50-50 can't be overlooked. Been waiting my whole fucking life for a player to get there. If Shohei was black or American, he'd be the unanimous MVP
The Dodgers make the postseason without Ohtani but the Mets don’t get a whiff of October without Lindor. That should be taken into account.
Someone said, Lindor had such a great season, we'll be talking about it for the rest of 2024. Ohtani had a season we'll be talking about for the rest of our lives.
Shohei Ohtani is literally the reason I watch baseball on a regular basis again
Same!
This is not a debate. Not this season. Man just founded a new club. It’s over. Deserves two straight mvps for just how special he is.
Has a chance for 2nd 40/40/40 season too
imagine if he wins 20 hits 40 and steals 40 next year
Yeah he’s a season MVP but postseason MVP lol
@@username-i8p6cnever he ain’t like that pitching he be lucky to win 10 games
@@angelbatista8756 ohtani had 15 wins with no run support at the angels what you high on
Ohtani is baseball's first 6 tool player. He can do it all
Lindor = MVMP (Most Valuable Mets Player)
Ohtani = MVP.
Shohei Ohtani is the best baseball player and one of the greatest athletes in the world.
The team is losing
@@Darin-j3w huh. the dodgers were leading the entire league in wins for weeks. they fell behind phillies recently, but thats still 2nd in the league. what u smoking bud
Judge leads MLB in 90% of offensive stats, ohtani has not pitched this year so what makes him better than judge exactly?…
@@PABLOPLAYZ2350/50
Nobody will remember this year as anything other than 50/50
You know I’m right
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu thats what óhtani fangays will remember to me it’s just a really expensive 50 homers, while hittin under 290😂😂😂😂😂 meanwhile the judge 323/459 with 53 homer 136 rbi…. With 1100 ops how exactly is ohtani all people will remember do u know anything bout baseball😂😂😂😂
No need to be sorry. It’s the right choice and the only choice.
That swing is beautiful and pure like a samurai.
😂😂😂😂😂
Been watching MLB since the 70's. Ohtani is the most talented all round baseball player I have ever seen.
All around is a stretch. He’s never played defense
@@Ja.Crispy Okay your brain isn't working.
@@Ja.Crispywhat. So his pitching defense was not defense?
@@ronalddepesa6221pitching is different than a position player. Not saying he’s bad but all around is a stretch when he’s never played a defensive position where he actually fields the ball. Now if he switched to play outfield and was great like everyone says then there is an argument.
@@Ja.Crispy who is a better all around player than him because I promise you cannot find anyone who plays better defense than him who can pitch 1/10th as good as him.
You'd have a hard time finding anyone as good offensively as him. 55-55?!? Shits ridiculous.
Even as a padre fan i love this dude hes just special. And after surgery is just crazy.
I don't understand how this actually a debate lol. Giving Ohtani the MVP doesn't diminish the great season Lindor had. And honestly he probably could've won it if it didn't take him 6 weeks to wake up
They are giving it a debate because he's a DH. And I dont know why DH cant win MVPs
@@ralphbuenaventura5905 -- Defense is haf the game and he doesn't have to play it.
It is just like giving a pitcher the MVP and they only play once every 5 games.
It will always be a reasonable argument.
I remember a year where Edgar Martinez was flat out great and super clutch.
I think they gave MVP to a player on like a last place team.
I like 2 way players in sports where players are responsible for offense and defense.
Ohtani is having a special season on a first place team so I won't mind him winning.
I would just give whoever is second a very hard look. If second doesn't have big holes like bad defender, last place team, too many games missed then I'd pick whoever is second.
@@ralphbuenaventura5905I think they can put all that to rest now… he just came up with a game from the stars …
@@semi6544why are there always people like you … he is not just having a great season … HE IS HAVING A HISTORIC SEASON …
People like you always end up looking waay wrong in hindsight… when it was always obvious once he cleared 40/40 …
Mookie Betts would be in the running if he had not missed so many games, too. He's worthy except for that. But Ohtani is so great and has achieved so much that MVP is his.
Shohei Ohtani is the Micheal Jordan of baseball!
People with brain will tell you OHTANI is clearly the MVP.
judge is mvp bozo, cope
@@cococock2418First time? Each League gets an MVP. Theyre in different leagues…Bozo..Dipshi+…Ignorant🤡. If you’re going to call someone a bozo, you sure as hell better know what you’re talking about..
@@cococock2418judge don't stsrt hitting hr again he is going to lose rhe lead to a pitcher lmao. Ohtani will probably have more SB this year than Judge's entire career lmao.
Two leagues two mvps american league mvp and national league mvp just like cy young award. Judge can't play outfield @cococock2418
@@cococock2418They’re in different leagues. Judge is in the AL. Ohtani is in the NL.
I don’t know how anyone could actually think that Lindor deserves MVP over Ohtani. Lindor isn’t even top 10 in any hitting categories. If people are so obsessed with his defense then give him another platinum glove and move on
Dude went from a shaking bat to shaking up arenas with powerful home runs 🔥 🔥
Both are shaky I guess 😂
@@WangRealEstate 😅😅
Othani basically shook up the league. 50/50, in a class of his own.
@@dc8201 fr ppl thought he was better as a pitcher but this season proved that he is also amazing at speed and at bat almost taking a triple crown.
Lol this isn't a debate. Ohtani is the most natural ball player of all time. I played professionally with some of the great hall of famers like griffey jr, bonds, Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Canseco, chipper Jones and heard balls coming off all these players bats and not one has ever come close to producing the sounds ohtani pops off. Not even close.
How dare you, Griffey will always be a goat. But yea ohtani has a crazy knock sound when he hits the ball. So f-ing load.
Goatani
Goatei Goatani
Ohtani leads Lindor in 13 offensive cetegories, and Shohei Ohtani leads the NL in Runs RBIs Extra base hits WAR OPS Slugging and HRs. And defense in MLB means very little (makes 1 or 2 plays a game) It's not like the NBA were they play both sides equal, but even that no defense in basketball wins an MVP. Also In the NFL no defensive player wins MVP, in all sporst they look at offense.
If he didn't get MVP then the title is meaningless.
That's the neat thing about Ohtani, he initially struggled both hitting and pitching-wise in his first spring training but he was humble enough to make adjustments. Talent will only get you so far as a pro because many pros are very talented. You need to be able to adjust to have a career.
I understand that we have to “have the discussion” out of respect for the other players who had incredible seasons (and to give the media Something To Talk About). But Ohtani is the most valuable player right now and maybe ever.
Nobody’s gonna remember Lindors 2024 season in a few years. Ohtanis 2024 season will be remembered for decades. They don’t compare. Argument about him not playing defense is pointless. Tell me about Kershaw, Verlander and Clemens’ offense numbers when they won the MVP?
I think Ohtani should be the MVP.
However, saying "him not playing defense" is pointless, is the same argument all Ohtani's fans had when he was being a great pitcher. If Ohtani's pitching is what won him the MVP last year, why can't Lindor's fans use his defense for the same reason?
The reason he was such a lock last year, was because he was MVP not because of his batting, not because of his pitching, but because of both.
OHTANI is nothing but an INJURED PITCHER…… who decided to bat and freaking hit 50 HR AND STEAL 50 bases😂
Actually he was signed as a dominant hitter who also pitched.
Not only that, he's the RBI and Runs leader batting in LEADOFF
Didn't this mfer strike out mike trout to win the world championship?
It's crazy. It's almost unbelievable if I didn't see it with my own eyes.
Lefty batter and righty pitcher.
he better be the unanimous nl mvp. anyone who doesn't vote for him should lose their vote.
Jones said it all, people criticize ohtani as a DH. But people forgot the dodgers wanted him as a pitcher and DH. So who risk one of their pitcher.
He can throw more accurate and harder then any fielder out there plus he is fast,
You can't compare Shohei to other players. He's so outstanding that he's on another level. He doesn't exist on the scale.
Lol Ohtani can play any position, and be good at it too.
Ortiz wasnt stealing 50 bags
If he did it with that frame though… automatic MVP
Ortiz would've stolen 100 bases if each other one had a hot dog cart.
dude's one of the best pitchers and fast for his size u bet he can play out field... like the song says put me in coach!
If or when Shohei plays outfield, he'll show Yankees how bad Judge is compared to him.
Shohei played the field a bit with the angels
Shohei is a great athlete but Judge is an excellent outfielder also. Yankee fan here and i'll take Judge over Ohtani.
@@bug-lf4sg🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@bug-lf4sg No player or coach, even on your holy Yankees, would take Judge over Ohtani. Yet here you are
@bug-lf4sg ok dude. 😂
He is gonna get a gold glove i have 0 doubt
If for some reason pitching doesn't work out after his recovery, he would not only pursue 50-50 every year but he will be a gold glove outfield.
Im pretty sure Ohtani could play any position (except catcher) and he would dominate there too.
But the way the sport plays means you get the most value off his ridiculous batting and pitching.
If Ohtani doesn't get the MVP... baseball itself will lose way more than Ohtani will. Ohtani is an MJ/Schumi/Djoker/Verstappen level talent in baseball. This guy is must watch specially when he pitches
Folks, this is no exaggeration. Go and watch some of Shohei's outfielder footage when he played in Japan. The dude could field the ball so fast and throw it like a rocket for miles. Very impressive indeed!
He is so close to the triple crown. Whe he hit his 50th homerun, he came so close to hitting for the cycle
Before the season started I said no way Ohtani is going to win MVP, just based on the fact he'd only be a DH. Now it's likely he'll win his third unanimous MVP, which I believe is unprecedented.
Ohtani played outfield 64 times in Japan, and 7 times in 2021 for the Angels
He hits like Ortiz with Henderson speed
New Yorkers & East coast folks be hating cause Ohtani prefers to stay on the West Coast. Also cause he's breaking all of theur beloved Babes records😂😂😂
This is "suppose" his rehab stay home rest year due to Tommy John surgery. But instead he is out there making history becoming first 50/50 player. Like this guy is "injured" and he is not playing at 100% capacity.
Crazy to think Kratz woulda had the 1 or 2 ROTY in the AL sitting in AAA. Tells you how good an analyst he is.
Pople really choose a player based on their WAR? Did anyone care that John Olerud had a higher WAR than Mark McGwire in 1998 when he hit 70 home runs? Did anyone think Kevin Kiermaier was the second best player in the league when he hit .260 with 10 home runs and great defense? I Don't think people are going to talk about Lindor's memorable 2024 season that he hit ,270 with 32 home runs and 90 RBI. I don't know if people are delusional or just biased
Ohtani is the player u create a MLB video game.
Fyi,
Theres a working n personal life philosophy in Japan called
KAIZEN. WHICH MEANS > CONTINIUS IMPROVEMENT .
EVERYONE SHOULD BE TRAINED IN ALL DEPARTMENTS. AND THRU EXPERIENCE
EXPERTISE IS GAINED
Speaking the truth!
Great to see Andru extended his career overseas for the love of the game
Ohtani sis 30 years old... this kid come on. This gotta be subconscious racism against asians. David Ortiz comments also down played Otani's greatness only because he is Japanese. If Ohtani were back or Hispanic, Democrat party would've hired Otani as a DEI president of USA.
im sure he could play outfield but he's rehabbing his elbow, he's more valuable as a DH/Pticher
Ortiz is entrenched in what’s his idea of baseball as the evolution of talents and skills to his bye gone era. Baseball is 200 years old and looking back and you’ll see players and skills made astonishing leaps in physicality and skill set evolution. Nostalgic is good, but present and the future is come and tomorrow is the future. Dodo 🦤 bird is extinct. Evolution.
I honestly wish he’d become an outfielder. I’m a Dodger fan. We have had 91 different trips to the IL by Pitchers since ‘21. Everyone knew Kersh’s arm was falling off and needed surgery before that playoff start last yr. We have had like 70 games started by rookies this year.
Be a gold glove Outfielder/closer(maybe?) and try for a 60/60 yr. I have no idea how on earth we have the best record in baseball??? A lot of the credit has to go to Doc and the rest of the staff.
Glasnow missed significant time
Yoshi missed significant time
Kersh came back in July and is now prob done Walker came back in June and is not himself
Dmay out for 1.5 yrs with TJ and esophagus
Gonsolin just coming back from TJ after over a yr.
River Ryan just had TJ
And the list goes on.
How many more TJ’s can Sho arm handle? 2 already. I guess if he can still hit-which he obviously can following TJ surgery, then ride him til the wheels fall off. But if he were to focus solely on hitting, I believe he’d win multiple triple crowns and go on Judge like tears. I can’t believe we get to watch this guy. I can’t believe anything about him.
Our team desperately needs pitching, people getting so many IL trips is the reason why pitching is so valuable. Ohtani can bat even with an injured arm, that's the reason we need his pitching. Him throwing a no hitter in the postseason would be worth way more then a season's worth of defence. Look at where our team is struggling, it's not the offense or the defense, it's the pitching. Our team is good enough to reach the playoffs but we can't win in the postseason with a battered pitching rotation.
Who remembers this dude on the dodgers for like 20 games lmao 😅
Man, I couldn’t recognize Andruw. But the opinion coming from Andruw Jones will totally respected by me. I am for Shohei all the way for MVP !
People are starting to believe in the greatness of Ohtani. I always knew it and began to buy his memorabilia back in 2020, after selling my condo. The only regret I have is not buying more.
Can possibly start the 20 20 20 20 club. Pitching, HR, SB, 2B
Chances anyone remember what shohei did this season is 50/50
Damn. Jones hasn’t aged at all.
Ohtani is NL MVP. Judge is 2 WAR ahead of him.
Why is this even a discussion 😂😂😂
If anyone thinks Ohtani doesn’t deserve the MVP unanimously they’re delusional
Next year, ohtani will win NL MVP as well as the NL Cy Young. Book it
I think Freddie deserves it at this point
Showtime
Why are people surprised when the new crop of players can have more than just a bat.
I love David Ortiz and especially when they beat the Yanks but Sho-time is a complete player.
I never knew he had an accent I always thought he was American 😂😂😂
No excuses, Ohtani is the MVP without any doubt, Ortiz 🤫
i dont understand how delousional people are lindor having a good season dosent have 40 hr but ohtani has that with 40 plus sb bout to break 50-50
SHO-TIME 🦄⚾🎆! ✅🏆💪🙏
Mr Jones was touted to be the next Willie Mays in those days. Just to let you young dudes know.
I watched zero baseball games all year and can yell you he is the MVP
No sorry, your 💯% correct
Andrew Jones was that guy!!!
Always remember Andrew Jones striking out as a Dodger and smiling every time. We hated him for it
How is it even a debate?
Ohtani is great and deserves all the credit he gets, the only thing that bothers me is that Ozuna had better numbers most the year this year and last year vs harper... but yet rarely makes the conversation. I know exactly why, ohtani is the golden child and ozuna is lucky tobstill be playing because mlb for some reason decided not to blackball him. But when it comes to pure numbers.... cmon. You gotta atleast talk about Ozuna. And they (the media) dont.
Ozuna is woman abuser he doesn't deserve any promotion whatsoever. In fact he should be banned. Even if has better number than Shohei (which he's not) no one gonna vote for him.
Have you check the #'s lately??? Ohtani came back and beat Ozuna in every category. Batting average, RBI, HR. Dont hate the player cayse his game is better then yours
and ohtani is a pitcher. a great pitcherm you have a pitcher hitting 50hrs. yeah yeah he didn't pitch this season. he pitched last year and hit what only 45 or sth? lol
Ortiz’s numbers were nowhere close to what Ohtani achieved this year. Big Papi just needs to stop being jealous and admire the greatness.
but but but but met fans are saying lindor is having the best season any major leager has had since babe ruth
and that is why they are mets fans. idiots.
Is there really any debate?
Think if he didn't waste those years with the Angels
If he is a great outfielder it didn't show even a little bit this year. He plays no defense.
Is he Andruw Jones?
Andruw jones is one of the most disrespected athletes ever , the fact that this guy is not in the HOF is unbelievable and somehow its even affected his child , druw jones as the #2 pick behind Jackson holliday just had a great season in the minors yet somehow has fallen out of top 100 prospect list ...
What are they talking about? Who, even remotely, has a chance at taking it over him???
Andruw is a HoF'er?
Absolutely
Sorry for what !! Like that’s a horrible pick 😂
his training regime must be ridiculous ..
only person close enough to Chuck Norris.
A player doing the unthinkable 50/50 and doesn’t win mvp 😂. I hope they don’t give it to Ohtani 😂.
Thought he was a pitcher and hitter?
But they just got snuffed twice in Atlanta.
Bruh as if having one bad series in an away game is the end of the road.
And now Atlanta just got snuffed twice 😂🙃
this kid? Guy's 30
He's 17 years younger than Andruw Jones - not unusual for someone pushing 50 to refer to a 30 year old as a kid.
@@foulterritoryshowrespect
Bruh NL MVP is done shohei is a different
Nah, Judge MVP
LINDOR >
OHTANI PLAYED ZERO DEFENSE LMAO. SITS HALF THE GAME!
Why is AJ hall of famer??? 0.254/1900 hit/…is that hall of famer stat????
Ya know when you get to be a particular age you need to flip that baseball cap around... that white dude looks ridiculous