mindlessgonzo try the tri state tornado of 1925 more than around 500 people dead across 3 states, a time on the ground of more than 1 hour and the highest average forward velocity of a tornado at around 40-50 miles per hour with a record forward velocity at one point of 70 mph and forget about it being a different time, this tornado was so heavily rain wrapped the whole time that every time the tornado hit a populated area the people who witnessed the tornado coming towards them said they could see it off in the distance but so much rain was falling that it shrouded the tornado and people couldn’t recognize literally that it was a tornado until it was right on top of them. Witnesses who survived the twister said that before the storm was even close to them that it looked like a tumbling black fog rolling along. This would indicate the precense of very heavy rainfall and high winds, however to any ordinary person there was absolutely no indication as to the fact that there was a massive mile wide tornado behind that curtain until it was literally right on top of them.
@1:50 I was saying to myself "where's the tornado they are talking about?" and then I realized that it was so big that it was taking up the whole screen....holy crap...
@@coconutsciencegirl9232 That is, essentially, what happened. The entire mesocyclone touched down, and the initial tornado became just another embedded subvortex, one of many.
Coconut ScienceGirl92 That what made this Tornado so terrifying, it was just like that with Sub vortices rolling around the inside and outside. Till this day with the behavior of this monster I’ve always asked if this was a man made storm?
That is what makes it exciting. I mean think about it, if you die at least your last day was sunny and 75! I'd take that over dying on a boring cold rainy day. (No joke intended)
+Chris430521 - HD EWR Planespotting It's no coincidence. The weather we often associate with it being a "beautiful day" can contain several of the necessary ingredients for tornadoes. We need solar heating and moisture to destabilize the atmosphere, which gives us that nice balmy feel to the air. Convection resulting from this instability gives us the fair weather cumulus that makes for a pretty sky. Such weather is often most welcome in the spring when the pattern is most active for thunderstorms. But on the other hand, I can think of plenty of days where the weather wasn't particularly nice before a bunch of tornadoes. There were days where it was cold and drizzly all morning and afternoon until just before the tornadoes formed. There were times where we had to wear coats while shooting tornadoes because it was still pretty cold outside. There were times were it was so oppressively hot and muggy that it was just unbearable to be out of the air conditioning.
Every time I think about this tornado, I can’t get over how freakishly nightmarish this storm was. Absolutely on a whole other level of terror. It was the largest tornado ever, almost had the fastest wind speed ever recorded on Earth, and was so erratic that it killed some of the best storm chasers there was.
imagine looking at this storm in the distance and coming to the realization that **the whole wall cloud is the tornado**. then it doubles in size in under a minute.
Since the Fujita scale has always been entirely based on damage and not wind speed, and F6 damage was never defined, there technically is no such thing as an F6, and the May 3 Bridge Creek tornado remains an F5.
I am sorry for the loss and for their families loss. Now, please tell me after this, nobody chases tornadoes in small uni-body cars anymore. I am not making fun or lite of this tragic event. Have people learned and changed from it though?
I've been watching trailers of this tornado since I read the article in National Geographic. Even with their explanatory graphics, I've gotten the most out of watching your video. Great footage and explanatory notes. RIP Tim Samaras, his son and friend and all the others who died here. I hope when I go down, it can be like this: pursuing what I loved in the interests of beneficial knowledge for mankind.
NearNeptune 3 yeah it was horrible. Correct me if I’m wrong but when they were behind Dan Robinson, did their car get stuck in mud and they couldn’t move and then a sub vortex came down on their car and sucked them into the main funnel? I heard that’s what happened and their car was thrown miles away.
they were in a Chevy Cobalt, and it was an EF5 tornado... They were overtaken by it, if you watch Dan Robinson's video, he was in a much bigger vehicle and he BARELY made it out, Samaras and Young were right behind them during that but never made it out.
I was watching this thing develop on radar as it was happening. When it made that north turn with three distinct hooks on the echo I just knew it was going to be bad. But I had no idea what would be taken from the storm chasing community that day. No chaser can look that day in the eyes and not take a sense of humility from it. If ever you think you've got it all figured out just remember that mother nature will always have the final say.
this is epic footage Skip and the timelaps of the tornado clearly shows that the monster wedge was all the more dangerous because of the number of suction vorticies it had within the core, but also the much wider clear air circulation outside the condensation & debris zone. I also can't help Notice that the Hallam, NE 2004 2.5 mile wide tornado and the El Reno, OK, 2013 tornado were both heavily rain wrapped, but the Hallam, NE tornado from the footage of it I have seen, did have a much wider debris and condensation zone, than the El Reno tornado has. The 1 thing the El Reno tornado will finally teach alot of ameteurs storm chasers/spotters is that the tornado circulation is undoubtedly much larger then the visible condensation funnel and debris cloud.
They thought that the tornado was rain wrapped when the whole thing on the ground was the actual tornado. It didn't help that it grew in size, change directions, and sped up at the same time.
It doesn't even really mean hail either. It just means there's a lot of water and a downdraft in the storm. I'm planning on doing a video on that at some point.
Because the Fujita and Enhanced Fujita scales are damage scales, not wind speed scales. The winds are inferred from damage because that's the only measure of the tornado we have at ground level.
Can I just say it’s awesome to see chasing videos with no panicked screaming? It lets those of us who have anxiety disorders who are also fascinated by tornadoes enjoy your footage and learn about tornadoes too, even if we’re mortally terrified of them.
Jesus. First time I watched your video. We got hit at 6:14 at 15th and Reformatory but managed to escape east on 15th with only broken windows, minor cuts and the right side of the car sandblasted. That's the first video I've seen that really captured how unbelievably scary that tornado was at the time. I didn't have my dash cams running and I was driving (not filming at the time) so I didn't get video of much. That's the best video I've seen showing the tornado at that particular time. I still can't believe we were in there and walked away, but the cop car bringing up the tail end at 1:55 into your video was a good mile ahead of us. We passed him at 15th and 81. Watching your video of that I have no clue how we could have been back there behind him and got out. Great footage.
I am just a teenage watching these videos, but ever since i was 7 years old, tornadoes and water spouts fascinate me! By far! Meteorology rocks... best career ever! In my opinion of course. Haha (=
This video is by far the best storm chasing video and music combination I have ever seen! Great job Skip! The chaser community took a huge loss that day😥.
572 downvotes? How can anyone dislike such an awesome display of Mother Nature like this? This shows us how fragile we are in this world. When we think we are safe, Mother Nature throws something like this at us and it can get worse like it has over the decades. This was an awesome video and shows the size of this monster firsthand so thank you for risking your life to show it to us and to learn more about how to give early warnings to monsters of nature like this. Rip to the unfortunate souls that lost their lives to this tornado.
Tornadoes are usually amazing to look at. Sometimes beautiful, despite the horror and destruction they bring. However, this tornado was nothing like that. This one was a monster, a roiling mass of deceptive, menacing clouds cloaked by rain. While it was infamously spectacular, the largest tornado on record, I find nothing beautiful about it.
I do...just the sheer power of nature on display is terribly beautiful. The most fitting description for it is the line that character says in Twister when they were talking about an F5...the finger of God.
I agree. Sometimes some of the most dangerous objects are also some of the most beautiful. But as you said this tornado was not even close to pretty. Just a rolling turbulent black wall of death shrouded by rain.
Not to be insensitive, to Tim and others that died. But this is some of the most spectacular storm footage that I've seen . It looks terrifying ,yet beautiful at the same time. Unfortunately I think living in the Great Plains or midwest, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri. In the heart of the Middle America, Doesn't seem like much goes on. I live in California by the ocean. But when I look at these Plains it kinda of reminds me of the ocean. And seeing these skies and the tornadoes forming while very dangerous indeed, it opens up my senses that there is more to life than just material things. That's probably what Tim's portrayal of these storms was supposed to encapsulate. He risked his life to display breathtaking footage to viewers like myself who are unaware of a lot of the storms and tornadoes that do take place in these areas such as Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas etc ( sorry if I left any states out). Rest in peace, and heart goes out to the families who lost their loved ones lives, chasing these storms.
@@succ5666 Your opinion. While other tornadoes look better, this one was impressive nonetheless. And that blue/green colour, I don't think I've seen other tornadoes have it
idk how often i watched this video but it is so beautifull and well done and the music makes it so dramatic i love it, had my first thunder storm yesterdays for this year and i could finally use my new camera
This video has the best view of the mature tornado and the music is perfect. Dan Robinson's short video of the tornado chasing him also offers a good perspective. But what I really like about Skip's video is how you can see some of the vortices as it moves along the ground. It looks like a cluster of big cone tornadoes at 3:11 That frame would make a nice photo for display, but also as a teaching aid in storm chasing classes. Don Robinson's short video is right beneath the circulation before he jumps in his car and speeds away. His view of the tornadogenesis is astonishing and Skip's frame at 3:11 shows why being too close is really dangerous. Here it is - years later, and I still find this video intriguing to replay once in awhile. Even my friends, who aren't particularly interested in storms, sit spellbound and can't stop talking about it afterwards. So, I think the value of this video is that it reaches many people and should be ranked as one of the all-time classics.
I was in the April 1974 outbreak in Kentucky and the rest of the Ohio valley. Never want to be in that situation ever again. Cannot imagine the courage of those guys that lost their lives to warn others. I cry when I watch that video. God Bless guys and rest in Peace.
Dana Beth birds aren't actually clueless, surprisingly. Birds can detect weather changing and meteorological change before human's can, and chirp as a warning to other birds within their colony.
Far from clueless, the birds, like nature in general, is very aware of what's going on in its environment, since it needs to be - to live. The increase in chirping is indicative that they are sense something very unusual and potentially dangerous is going to happen.....the clueless are those that ignore nature, at their own peril
The birds are anything BUT clueless. They serve as harbingers....warnning the eco system of danger. NO animals are "clueless." In fact, and with ZERO disrespect to those men who lost their lives to either study the eye; got trapped in the eye or were thrill-seeking FOR the eye and it got outta hand......and so what. If the latter is their "sport" its THEIR business and they sure as HELL dont need any of US ESPECIALLY, calling them derogatory names or being disrespectful. Without these people we wouldnt have the in-depth views of such natural phenom and some of the leading info for predictions & preparations have come from THEIR vantage point. Even 2 more SECONDS prep in a tornado is IMMENSE!!! Back to topic.....birds, like ANY animals....including the froofy little 2lb purse riders, are NOT "clueless" to atmospheric changes. It's best to watch & follow the animals distress in such cases. To the families of these brave gents....and yes, they were thrill-seekers too....90% of the world enjoys doing SOMEthing that can & likely WILL KILL them eventually. To these families, I am thinking of you as we "speak" and intend to share this, with ample credits to your loved ones. They did NOT die in vain. While hardly compensation for your loss....they died bringing INCREDIBLE info to, not only us viewers, but also to weather scholars & reporters worldwide. While they can't be returned to you, not to their friends and family, I hope you ALL find SOME peace in knowing that THEY....ALONE.....Brought to weather specialists some they did not, and never would, have without them. GODSPEED to you all! PLEASE DONT EVER STOP BEING PROUD OF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!!! If ANY of you EVER need someone.....a stranger with an unbiased ear, I am Yvette Huggins in Charlotte NC. Plz find me on FB or at avamonster6@gmail.com. Mark an email as "tornado" so its not lost in spam. The BEST I can do is offer than I'm here to talk to and I WILL reply ASAP! 💜❤💚💙 Please remember the 🌈 that follows 🌪 YOUR LOVED ONES ARE THE RAINBOWS & THOSE 🌈.....theyre JUST for you! 💕 I encourage others to share this too, so these brave men didnt die in vain. You never stop to think that a 2 min video could save, not only You, but also allow you to return to YOUR loved one's afterwards....that seems so simple until you realize these fine men never got that chance. And they never will. 💔
Worth a mention, the mobile radar on this storm only measured up to 296mph. They had several areas of null data on their screen, which were areas of wind moving faster than that.
I contributed to a Fox Weather piece on the anniversary and memorial, but not planning on doing another video on this at the moment: www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/el-reno-tornado-10-year-anniversary-storm-chaser-deaths
Hell man, if I'm ever driving during a tornado and I see some storm chasers, I'm going to beg to go with them... their cars are usually better protected, plus they have experience in evading the tornadoes... and also I'm from Nebraska, so I would likely find it fun and exciting as well. But I'm a weirdo lol
WhenUnicornsAttack AlaricTheVisigoth unfortunately one of the most experienced of storm chasers DIED because of this tornado. No matter how knowledgeable you are, tornadoes are still incredibly unpredictable.
+Joe99 Yeah, you know a lot of people died in that storm including storm chasers other than Richard Henderson. It was a real tragedy. Tim, Paul, and Carl were people I knew though and people that have had a big impact on me and the storm chasing community as a whole.
I have that thought every time I hear about them. It makes me wonder what his family feels since he was a chaser too and is totally ignored like a redheaded stepchild. There were only 8 people that died altogether, so why not just list the others? But the videographer says he didn't know the others so I kind of understand. But when countless TV news stations reported on the 3 only, I felt like they should've mentioned the others too instead treating them like a statistic.
+mallarysangel Henderson wasn't totally ignored, nor were the other victims of that storm. Multiple media outlets have published lists of names and accounts. Here's CNN's: www.cnn.com/2013/06/04/us/oklahoma-storm-fatality-breakdown/ Additionally, the National Weather Service and other researchers studied the circumstances of all of these victims in detail. There are published articles on their sites and in journals such as the AMS: ams.confex.com/ams/27SLS/webprogram/Session37219.html Gabe Garfield of the Norman NWS has an excellent overview of this event. He goes into detail on Henderson's situation: ruclips.net/video/TBjr-nvA2Jg/видео.html The reason Samaras and the Twistex crew received massive amounts of media coverage, and the other victims did not, is because Samaras and crew have made huge contributions to the science of studying tornadoes and they are public figures known by millions of people. Please don't misunderstand me as Henderson's death was very much a tragedy. However, he was unknown among even local storm chasers. That we all know who he is though is proof that he was not ignored. Henderson and the others made international news, and I think a fair amount compared to the Twistex crew given the impacts they had on others' lives. I didn't list all the victims at the start of the video because I didn't even have that information available when I started making this video. But those names at the start of the video are not an informative list of victims but a tribute to people I knew as friends. I cherish all life, but the names at the start of this video are special to me and special to the chase community and deserve special recognition.
+Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles but you have to admit when you hear 3 storm chaser;s died..i wonder like .....wait wasn't there 4?......i know you didn't mean for it to seem that way but he was a chaser too,risking his life for other's.
I know this isn't part of the enhanced fujita scale, but if the winds were almost 300 mph, then this tornado could possibly have been an EF 6. This is just my take on this extremely deadly and destructive tornado.
there is no such thing as a EF 6...and this tornado was eventually rated as a EF 3 because it didn't do much damage because it was in a unpopulated area...they ultimately rate by damage and not windspeed. EF 5 windspeed may be 200+ mph but that won't necessarily make it a EF 5.Tornadoes are frequently only rated EF 3 or 4...when they have windspeeds over 200 mph.
i know the title of this video is misleading but Skip posted it when it was initially a EF 5 still...or 6 days after the event. On August 30th, which was almost 3 months after the tornado, It was downgraded to an EF 3 because of lack of damage.
Scientist actually say it is possible for an EF-6 to happen and if it did it would destroy everything in its path and rip things up from 20 feet underground and the wind topspeed would be 500 something mph
lol..you're obviously not a golfer... and there is no such thing as a category EF-6..use the power of google and look up "Enhanced Fujita Scale"...run along now and enjoy
Even Tim Samaras lost his life in the El Reno tornado. He was an experienced chaser who would never jeopardize his life or the life of his son tracking tornadoes. It just shows the power and unpredictable forces of nature.
How anyone can say this is a EF3 is beyond me when dop clocked windspeed 95mph above the top end reading of an Ef5 where it cant go any higher, that alone makes it an EF5 not to mention the devastating damage done,
Louise Taylor We just don't have a good enough understanding of tornadic wind speeds and how they translate to damage on the surface yet to rate tornadoes based on measured velocities alone. Assigning an EF5 rating these days requires the utmost confidence from surveyors that the rating is appropriate.
Peter K "The ground scouring normally indicative of EF5 intensity is due to low pressure at the tornado's core more than wind speed." The idea that pressure within a tornado is responsible for the damage is an urban legend. Meteorologists use to believe that by observing how the walls of houses collapsed. Today we know that the pressure difference between the inside and the outside of the strongest tornadoes is negligible, about 1.5 PSI (10%). Ground scouring and other phenomenal instance of damage in tornadoes is the result of extreme and variable low-level winds at the surface. "Not all tornadoes which attain EF5 wind speed have low enough central pressure to scour earth. The Elie, Manitoba tornado was one example." The 2007 Elie, Manitoba tornado was rated on the original Fujita scale. Regardless, while the tornado didn't scour the ground, it completely debarked just about every tree and shrub within the core of its damage path along with several other genuine F5 damage indicators. "Conversely, some tornadoes which do not attain EF5 wind speeds do scour the ground - the 2011 Tuscaloosa tornado being an example (it caused significant ground scouring, but both its maximum wind speed and greatest damage screamed EF4 intensity)." Ignoring the fact the 2011 Tuscaloosa-Concord, AL tornado may have achieved EF5 intensity, ground scouring from the event was rather minimal. However, I do acknowledge that plenty of tornadoes rated EF4 and even EF3 in some cases scour the ground, but this just makes the case of the 2013 El Reno tornado being an EF5 even weaker since it didn't manage to do so. "Personally I think the fact that there are a lot fewer EF5 tornadoes than F5s is due less to weakening tornadoes and more due to the fact that it's pretty much impossible to give a tornado a rating of 5 on the Enhanced Fujita scale." There hasn't necessarily been fewer EF5s now than F5s in the past. There has been 9 in the past 8 years. That's pretty much consistent with the one F5 per year average seen on the original Fujita scale. Certainly there have been some rather difficult to accept ratings (2011 Chickasaw-Blanchard, OK, Dibble, OK, 2014 Mayflower-Vilonia, AR), but such ratings also existed on the original Fujita scale too (2004 Harper, KS) along with the many F5s that don't deserve their ratings (1966 Belmond, IA, 1968 Wheelersburg, OH, 1974 Hazel Green, AL). There are certainly problems, but it has been much better than it was under the original scale. "On the old F scale, 2011 might have seen 10 or even 15 F5 tornadoes" Yes, is certainly might have and vice versa. But the rating standards are a little more strict today and for good reason. I personally believe the ratings for the 4/27/11 outbreak were all appropriate. "F5 tornadoes, and 2013 might have seen five or six." Eh... I would say two at most (Moore OK, Washington IL), maybe three (Grandbury, TX). Most of the EF4 ratings for 2013 were marginal and some were downright questionable (Rozel KS, Pierson IA). Really it's difficult to compare though. There are plenty of years on the Fujita scale that could have had more F5s too (1965).
I saw all this unfold live from Portland, Oregon. I grew up in Oklahoma and I sat here in horror as that OKC weatherman told people to get in their cars and drive in it. People were also still in shock over Moore, then mix that with bad information and it could have been a much more terrible situation than it already was. Thank you for this beautiful footage and thank you for helping to protect the people I love and miss so much.
I remember this I was in Midwest City. And thought it was going to sweep across OKC half the city was trying to get out of the way. Because of the more F-5 about 10 days earlier.
Rainwrapped- check Unpredictable motion- check Largest tornado in history- check Massive bear's cage- check 2nd fastest recorded wind speeds in history-check Nothing TS and his crew could've done.
You're totally right about the details, but not the conclusion. There's a lot Samaras and crew could have done. It's important to point this out, not to criticize someone who is a personal hero of mine, but so that others don't lose their lives for the same reasons.
Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles It took a sudden left turn at the last minute. Almost took out Mike Bettes and his crew as well, in addition to the stormhighway crew. In terms of chasing it was a particularly dangerous situation that even the best had trouble dealing with. The only thing they could've done would be a mile or so back like stormhighway was, but even he got caught in the inflow jet.
Thanks. Yes, I've studied the storm and these chasers' routes in depth. I have a lengthy video with recommendations on how encounters with this tornado could have been avoided, and some general storm chasing advice: ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html Samaras, Bettes, and Robinson made critical mistakes that could have been avoided. Again, this isn't to criticize these chasers, but to learn from these mistakes so that more chasers aren't hurt or killed on future events for making the same mistakes. I almost bought it myself for making my own mistakes on that chase.
Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles I'll give it a watch later. Off the top of my head the only thing I can think of would be giving the bear's cage greater distance and keeping an eye out for the tornadic circulation that doesn't have a funnel but I'm always willing to learn more.
Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles Also, didn't Samaras in particular get too close for a sudden enlargement? Usually that's not too much of a factor (not everyday a twister is 2.6 miles in diameter) but in this situation it was. I'll make sure to check out the link
This tornado has two ratings, having EF-3 and EF-5 depending on who you ask. I have never heard of such a difference in rating EF-3 and EF-5 is a big difference. I think of it as EF-5, but I know others that say different. Funny, right?
I would agree this is an EF-5 based on size. Rating it an EF-3 is an insult to truly how dangerous this tornado was. In perspective if this tornado had hit Oklahoma City we would have been talking major damage and death toll.
TheWayStormChasingTeam [OFFICIAL] There's a lot of debate on this tornado's damage capabilities. Please see these presentations if you're truly interested in what went into rating that tornado and the resulting debate: ams.confex.com/ams/27SLS/webprogram/Session37219.html While the tornado was exceptionally large, the 300 mph winds occurred over a very small area associated with a sub vortex, and that subvortex was moving incredibly fast, faster than 100 mph at times. Many locations in the track would have experienced those intense winds for less than a second. Some meteorologists and scientists argue that's not enough time to inflict EF-5 damage on some structures. Others would like to use the vehicles that were hit as damage indicators, but the EF scale currently does take them into consideration because there's no baseline for how vehicle damage correlates to tornado strength.
Tim and Paul Samaras, and Carl Young were killed after being overtaken by the tornado and then having their vehicle impacted by a fast moving and intense subvortex. There are a few videos out there that try to explain and make sense of these events: ruclips.net/video/TBjr-nvA2Jg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
Same here. But Tim was one of the biggest advocates of safety EVER, and they just got stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time. His work is legendary, and his passing served to remind ALL storm chasers of the consequences of not being aware of your surroundings or not taking care. He did and was aware, but it was just his time to go.... It still breaks my heart.
Some people surmise that Tim went into the wrong direction, but Tim Samaras was THE best at doing what he did and understanding the science of tornadoes. Personally? He was caught up in a tornado with no way to get out with Paul and Carl, and it picked up Tim's Chevy Cobalt and threw it a half mile. There were no survivors.
Mrdynamics.... Well these two tornadoes actually looked quite similar, low fast rotating wall cloud, black cloud base, very high HP supercell, fast spinning vortices. Dont listen to that one "research group" who disputed joplin being an ef5 saying the building codes were not up to standard, yes , they were from the 70's, like xenia oh.... Also what the joplin tornado did to cars, ive never seen, i went to joplin myself after the tornado because i have family there, volunteered and studied the damage, this """"""""research group"""""""" failed to notice and mention one thing...... The trees!! They are as debarked, whittled down leaning twigs as ive ever seen in all the high end ef5's. Now the weather channel has said, well maybe it was a low end ef5 in random spots... Bull shit!!!! Just because one """"research group"""" comes in and disagrees w the nws and thinks it was an ef3 or ef4 ("up, cant have that, cant have someone in "meteorology" disagree so much w us, so maybe we will call this a low end ef5, bull shit!!! Look at the trees, it was no low end ef5
@@allshipper2158 I remember watching the documentary inside the mega twister where it was described as so bad that a good number of Chasers just dumped the storm altogether to get to safety. This storm was just something else.
Living in the East Side of USA is better because there wont be tornados or atleast some tornados because it isnt humid all year long meanwhile the South And West get hit atleast once a year Especially Oklahoma.. Don't even understand why people decide to live in Oklahoma its like a Tornado magnet..
To some of us here, the fear can cause an adrenaline rush, and let me tell you...these storms are VERY EXHILARATING!!! Speaking of, I think I hear it hailing outside lol
I'd say it's better here on the West Coast, you guys there get bad hurricanes.. Although we are vulnerable to Yellowstone and perhaps earthquakes/tsunamis
A hurricane is basically a gigantic tornado. Ours cover a few square miles; yours are hundreds of miles wide and cover counties or even states. You decide.
Hey skip i have a question, i have loved multi vortex tornados cus' of there beauty, but i never exactly knew how they can be formed, the only few tornados i have chased were mostly cones with some stove pipes here and there, also another question, is it "tornados" or "tornadoes".
Most if not all tornadoes are actually multivortex, meaning they're comprised of many smaller subvortices, even if the subvortices are not readily apparent. A surge in the RFD can cause vortex breakdown, which can disrupt the tornado and result in a distinct multivortex phase. Either spelling is technically correct, but "tornadoes" is the preferred spelling of meteorologists and chasers, while "tornados" refers to the fried gas station snack.
Tornadoes are rated based on damage, not size, or even wind speed since we almost never have wind speed measurements for tornadoes. We don't rate based on size because there isn't correlation between intensity and size. You can have an extremely wide tornado that's very weak, or an incredibly powerful "drillbit" that's only tens of yards across.
Hey, Fred. I don't mean to be the "Adam Ruins Everything" guy of storm chasing, but no and no. ;) Storms are not getting more and more powerful, with the exception of maaaybe hurricanes. But this isn't the case with tornadoes... probably. Instead we've just been able to track them in much more detail recently, and there are now a lot more people to get in the way of them. There will never be an EF6 rating. The scale is designed to be open ended such that EF5 is as high as it will ever go.
At the time it was difficult to discern the tornado's bounds, but it's basically the entire area under that shaggy cloud mass. Keep in mind that the wind field that actually defines the tornado's size is much larger than the clouds suggest. I have the approximate size and location overlaid on the video here: ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
This is the most interesting tornado in history. Not just because of the tragedy associated with it but also the complexities in the tornado itself. I have studied every piece of video of this storm and you will see things going on in it that you won’t find in any other tornado video.
While the lake may have had a tiny influence on the storm, it's a drop in the bucket on the overall scale of things. The storm itself was much larger than Lake El Reno, and drawing its inflow south of the lake. The extreme atmospheric instability, available wind shear, and southeast storm motion deviant to the mean flow played much bigger roles in the development of the tornado.
***** I think I got the picture of it, it was amazing seeing the carousel affect that the tornado created hard to believe that three tornadoes fused into one causing such catastrophe.
Some impressive captures! It was my first ever time out to try to capture something like this and some of my video and my stills could have been so much better. Glad to see others got such great video of this thing! It was terrifying and awe-inspiring at the same time. I can’t believe some of you guys got so close to it. Those storms that kept coming south into Minco, etc. were pretty spooky too! I kept going south and the storms just kept following me.
Between Pecos Hank’s gruff exterior and Skip Talbot’s calm demeanor, I’ve learned more about tornados (and chasing them) than I ever thought I would. Now I know how tornados form, and that my nutsack isn’t nearly as big as I thought it was. These vids are nightmare fuel for me.
A fine Video, and a fine tribute to what sounds to me like a memory of a son and friend who would have you be safe and take care of each other and your great community of enthusiasts and professionals. I never met any of them, but from what I've seen of them, I believe we could all feel safe in saying they would appreciate it. I admire you all.. and i do see several great potentials for you to make a huge difference with youtube.
When you piece together everyone's footage. A downed power line saved the lives of Reed Timmer, the Dominator crew, and the Discovery Channel team. They were only 1mile behind Twistex but one street closer to the tornado. It would've sped up and grown directly into their fleet killing him, his team, and the Discovery channel crew.
This is one crazy twister. Bigger than the one in Nebraska of '04, faster than the May 1999 Moore, OK. I'm afraid of what could break this record.
mindlessgonzo what tornado
mindlessgonzo try the tri state tornado of 1925 more than around 500 people dead across 3 states, a time on the ground of more than 1 hour and the highest average forward velocity of a tornado at around 40-50 miles per hour with a record forward velocity at one point of 70 mph and forget about it being a different time, this tornado was so heavily rain wrapped the whole time that every time the tornado hit a populated area the people who witnessed the tornado coming towards them said they could see it off in the distance but so much rain was falling that it shrouded the tornado and people couldn’t recognize literally that it was a tornado until it was right on top of them. Witnesses who survived the twister said that before the storm was even close to them that it looked like a tumbling black fog rolling along. This would indicate the precense of very heavy rainfall and high winds, however to any ordinary person there was absolutely no indication as to the fact that there was a massive mile wide tornado behind that curtain until it was literally right on top of them.
Jupiter red eye: *observe*
mindlessgonzo this was not faster than Moore it was more or less estimated at the same: 301 +/- 18
Dixie alley has made some absolute monsters this year.
You didn't chase the tornado. The tornado chased you.
In Soviet Russia...
Literally....
@@dalethelander3781 In American Midwest, storm chase you!
lmao
No it didn’t
Imagine being in a wagon heading west in the 1800s, and one of these beasts suddenly forms over you
And these beasts are even faster than your wagon. It comes with massive rains, lighting and hailstones.
Benjamin Franklin would probably chase it on a horse 🐎 😉
Ok but can we not lol
in the 1600’s theyd probably try to crucify it
Imagine being a human being
@1:50 I was saying to myself "where's the tornado they are talking about?" and then I realized that it was so big that it was taking up the whole screen....holy crap...
Might as well just call it a super cell. A super cell touched down and joined the land and sky!!!
He layeth down thee.
@@coconutsciencegirl9232 That is, essentially, what happened. The entire mesocyclone touched down, and the initial tornado became just another embedded subvortex, one of many.
@@succ5666 it was very rain wrapped, so yes it was a hurricane, it even had a large eye.
Coconut ScienceGirl92 That what made this Tornado so terrifying, it was just like that with Sub vortices rolling around the inside and outside. Till this day with the behavior of this monster I’ve always asked if this was a man made storm?
Isn't it just weird how it is always a beautiful day before the tornadoes start??
That is what makes it exciting. I mean think about it, if you die at least your last day was sunny and 75! I'd take that over dying on a boring cold rainy day. (No joke intended)
Yeah!
+Chris430521 - HD EWR Planespotting It's no coincidence. The weather we often associate with it being a "beautiful day" can contain several of the necessary ingredients for tornadoes. We need solar heating and moisture to destabilize the atmosphere, which gives us that nice balmy feel to the air. Convection resulting from this instability gives us the fair weather cumulus that makes for a pretty sky. Such weather is often most welcome in the spring when the pattern is most active for thunderstorms. But on the other hand, I can think of plenty of days where the weather wasn't particularly nice before a bunch of tornadoes. There were days where it was cold and drizzly all morning and afternoon until just before the tornadoes formed. There were times where we had to wear coats while shooting tornadoes because it was still pretty cold outside. There were times were it was so oppressively hot and muggy that it was just unbearable to be out of the air conditioning.
Good explanation to it, thanks!
Chris430521 - HD EWR Planespotting because tornadoes are assholes. Awesome assholes, but still assholes
Every time I think about this tornado, I can’t get over how freakishly nightmarish this storm was. Absolutely on a whole other level of terror.
It was the largest tornado ever, almost had the fastest wind speed ever recorded on Earth, and was so erratic that it killed some of the best storm chasers there was.
imagine looking at this storm in the distance and coming to the realization that **the whole wall cloud is the tornado**. then it doubles in size in under a minute.
too bad RUclips compression destroys the cloud movement details...
literally like 26 mph winds away from an f6
@@cayben8865 the May 3rd tornado surpassed max F5 wind speeds making it technically the only F6 tornado in history
Since the Fujita scale has always been entirely based on damage and not wind speed, and F6 damage was never defined, there technically is no such thing as an F6, and the May 3 Bridge Creek tornado remains an F5.
*bows head in a moment of silence for Tim, Carl and Paul*
I am sorry for the loss and for their families loss. Now, please tell me after this, nobody chases tornadoes in small uni-body cars anymore. I am not making fun or lite of this tragic event. Have people learned and changed from it though?
I, as well.
@@johnnyvt9 some people just like dancing with the devil
@@warriorwk was trying to say Tim Samares
@@johnnyvt9 I Agree It's Not Safe To Chase These Storms.
I've been watching trailers of this tornado since I read the article in National Geographic. Even with their explanatory graphics, I've gotten the most out of watching your video. Great footage and explanatory notes. RIP Tim Samaras, his son and friend and all the others who died here. I hope when I go down, it can be like this: pursuing what I loved in the interests of beneficial knowledge for mankind.
R.I.P Carl Young, and Paul and Tim Samaras. Tim was my favorite storm chaser too im so sad!
Whats happened?
Franzers weiss Tim Samaras, his son Paul, and Carl Young were overtaken by a violent subvortex in their car. All three were killed.
That was very sad..God bless them..
NearNeptune 3 yeah it was horrible. Correct me if I’m wrong but when they were behind Dan Robinson, did their car get stuck in mud and they couldn’t move and then a sub vortex came down on their car and sucked them into the main funnel? I heard that’s what happened and their car was thrown miles away.
they were in a Chevy Cobalt, and it was an EF5 tornado... They were overtaken by it, if you watch Dan Robinson's video, he was in a much bigger vehicle and he BARELY made it out, Samaras and Young were right behind them during that but never made it out.
I was watching this thing develop on radar as it was happening. When it made that north turn with three distinct hooks on the echo I just knew it was going to be bad. But I had no idea what would be taken from the storm chasing community that day. No chaser can look that day in the eyes and not take a sense of humility from it. If ever you think you've got it all figured out just remember that mother nature will always have the final say.
I've seen multiple live streams, on an app that since then doesn't exist anymore
yeah
yeah boi what
okay ✅ 😊
yeah boi 😊
this is epic footage Skip and the timelaps of the tornado clearly shows that the monster wedge was all the more dangerous because of the number of suction vorticies it had within the core, but also the much wider clear air circulation outside the condensation & debris zone.
I also can't help Notice that the Hallam, NE 2004 2.5 mile wide tornado and the El Reno, OK, 2013 tornado were both heavily rain wrapped, but the Hallam, NE tornado from the footage of it I have seen, did have a much wider debris and condensation zone, than the El Reno tornado has.
The 1 thing the El Reno tornado will finally teach alot of ameteurs storm chasers/spotters is that the tornado circulation is undoubtedly much larger then the visible condensation funnel and debris cloud.
They thought that the tornado was rain wrapped when the whole thing on the ground was the actual tornado. It didn't help that it grew in size, change directions, and sped up at the same time.
When the clouds go blue-green, its time to leave.
Eh, that just means there’s hail. I see green skies in quite a few storms, but no tornadoes come out of it.
It doesn't even really mean hail either. It just means there's a lot of water and a downdraft in the storm. I'm planning on doing a video on that at some point.
I don't understand why the tornado was later downgraded if the winds were that strong?
Because the Fujita and Enhanced Fujita scales are damage scales, not wind speed scales. The winds are inferred from damage because that's the only measure of the tornado we have at ground level.
@@skiptalbot This Is A Crazy Twister. I would literally be like "iM gOnNa die aHhHh!!" My biggest fear are tornadoes. ._.
Can I just say it’s awesome to see chasing videos with no panicked screaming? It lets those of us who have anxiety disorders who are also fascinated by tornadoes enjoy your footage and learn about tornadoes too, even if we’re mortally terrified of them.
Jesus. First time I watched your video. We got hit at 6:14 at 15th and Reformatory but managed to escape east on 15th with only broken windows, minor cuts and the right side of the car sandblasted. That's the first video I've seen that really captured how unbelievably scary that tornado was at the time. I didn't have my dash cams running and I was driving (not filming at the time) so I didn't get video of much. That's the best video I've seen showing the tornado at that particular time. I still can't believe we were in there and walked away, but the cop car bringing up the tail end at 1:55 into your video was a good mile ahead of us. We passed him at 15th and 81. Watching your video of that I have no clue how we could have been back there behind him and got out. Great footage.
I am just a teenage watching these videos, but ever since i was 7 years old, tornadoes and water spouts fascinate me! By far! Meteorology rocks... best career ever! In my opinion of course. Haha (=
Did you end up pursuing meteorology ?
Sitting here in my semi truck parked in EL RENO eating a pizza watching tornado videos about EL RENO
Bout to do this bro 💪
This video is by far the best storm chasing video and music combination I have ever seen! Great job Skip! The chaser community took a huge loss that day😥.
572 downvotes? How can anyone dislike such an awesome display of Mother Nature like this?
This shows us how fragile we are in this world.
When we think we are safe, Mother Nature throws something like this at us and it can get worse like it has over the decades.
This was an awesome video and shows the size of this monster firsthand so thank you for risking your life to show it to us and to learn more about how to give early warnings to monsters of nature like this.
Rip to the unfortunate souls that lost their lives to this tornado.
Tornadoes are usually amazing to look at. Sometimes beautiful, despite the horror and destruction they bring. However, this tornado was nothing like that. This one was a monster, a roiling mass of deceptive, menacing clouds cloaked by rain. While it was infamously spectacular, the largest tornado on record, I find nothing beautiful about it.
Sajaa K I love the way you described that feeling, as I look at them like that too.
Sajaa K This beast was unpredictable and caught many many chasers off guard.
I do...just the sheer power of nature on display is terribly beautiful. The most fitting description for it is the line that character says in Twister when they were talking about an F5...the finger of God.
2:37 so you're telling me that that's not beautiful... please.
I agree. Sometimes some of the most dangerous objects are also some of the most beautiful. But as you said this tornado was not even close to pretty. Just a rolling turbulent black wall of death shrouded by rain.
Not to be insensitive, to Tim and others that died. But this is some of the most spectacular storm footage that I've seen . It looks terrifying ,yet beautiful at the same time. Unfortunately I think living in the Great Plains or midwest, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri. In the heart of the Middle America, Doesn't seem like much goes on. I live in California by the ocean. But when I look at these Plains it kinda of reminds me of the ocean. And seeing these skies and the tornadoes forming while very dangerous indeed, it opens up my senses that there is more to life than just material things. That's probably what Tim's portrayal of these storms was supposed to encapsulate. He risked his life to display breathtaking footage to viewers like myself who are unaware of a lot of the storms and tornadoes that do take place in these areas such as Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Texas etc ( sorry if I left any states out). Rest in peace, and heart goes out to the families who lost their loved ones lives, chasing these storms.
tucko11 beautiful? THAT TORNADO WAS JUST A HUGE BLOB.
@@succ5666
Your opinion. While other tornadoes look better, this one was impressive nonetheless. And that blue/green colour, I don't think I've seen other tornadoes have it
tornadoes are beautiful. in an eerie way.
the raw force of nature is amazing.
but, then we have tornadoes like Joplin, Tuscaloosa, and El Reno.
We will get our share of natural disasters here in California. Actually, fires have been cruel in the last three years. Not mentioning The Big One...
@@alexandreleite2541 I live in L.A. The San Andreas is overdue for relieving some pressure.
5 years ago on this very day
R.I.P. Tim & Paul Samaras as well as Carl Young
#NeverStopChasing
6 Years ago on this day now
One of the best tornado video's on RUclips...the music just seems to fit
The music fits that monster just right.
Yes it does!!
all this by Kevin Macleod.
I swear it sounds like a final boss theme
You can call it final boss, as there's still no other tornado that gave horror like this one.
@@allshipper2158 well for now
idk how often i watched this video but it is so beautifull and well done and the music makes it so dramatic i love it, had my first thunder storm yesterdays for this year and i could finally use my new camera
I thought the video got deleted oh my gosh, anyway, back again lol
Pretty detailed rotation of an F5
Some if the best footage I've seen ever
The best darn tornado video EVER!!! Great job Skip
1:40 I can't imagine the wide eyed terror they must have experienced. R. I. P. To the fallen.
This video has the best view of the mature tornado and the music is perfect. Dan Robinson's short video of the tornado chasing him also offers a good perspective. But what I really like about Skip's video is how you can see some of the vortices as it moves along the ground. It looks like a cluster of big cone tornadoes at 3:11 That frame would make a nice photo for display, but also as a teaching aid in storm chasing classes. Don Robinson's short video is right beneath the circulation before he jumps in his car and speeds away. His view of the tornadogenesis is astonishing and Skip's frame at 3:11 shows why being too close is really dangerous.
Here it is - years later, and I still find this video intriguing to replay once in awhile. Even my friends, who aren't particularly interested in storms, sit spellbound and can't stop talking about it afterwards. So, I think the value of this video is that it reaches many people and should be ranked as one of the all-time classics.
Btw if anyone is wondering what the song name is, it is "All This" by Kevin Macleod :)
It sounds kind of like the opening music for the masters of horror movies
It makes a person wonder about the size of storms that have occurred over the years...500, 5,000, 50,000 years ago. Good video.
That music is just pure awesome
Great editing, great shooting, and excellent explanation. Glad all of you are ok.
I was in the April 1974 outbreak in Kentucky and the rest of the Ohio valley. Never want to be in that situation ever again.
Cannot imagine the courage of those guys that lost their lives to warn others.
I cry when I watch that video. God Bless guys and rest in Peace.
Excellent video Skip! Love your style, very unique and different. I'm glad you are here to share it.
i love how clueless the birds are.. just chirping away..
they shake it off
Dana Beth birds aren't actually clueless, surprisingly. Birds can detect weather changing and meteorological change before human's can, and chirp as a warning to other birds within their colony.
Far from clueless, the birds, like nature in general, is very aware of what's going on in its environment, since it needs to be - to live. The increase in chirping is indicative that they are sense something very unusual and potentially dangerous is going to happen.....the clueless are those that ignore nature, at their own peril
The birds are anything BUT clueless. They serve as harbingers....warnning the eco system of danger. NO animals are "clueless." In fact, and with ZERO disrespect to those men who lost their lives to either study the eye; got trapped in the eye or were thrill-seeking FOR the eye and it got outta hand......and so what. If the latter is their "sport" its THEIR business and they sure as HELL dont need any of US ESPECIALLY, calling them derogatory names or being disrespectful. Without these people we wouldnt have the in-depth views of such natural phenom and some of the leading info for predictions & preparations have come from THEIR vantage point. Even 2 more SECONDS prep in a tornado is IMMENSE!!! Back to topic.....birds, like ANY animals....including the froofy little 2lb purse riders, are NOT "clueless" to atmospheric changes. It's best to watch & follow the animals distress in such cases.
To the families of these brave gents....and yes, they were thrill-seekers too....90% of the world enjoys doing SOMEthing that can & likely WILL KILL them eventually. To these families, I am thinking of you as we "speak" and intend to share this, with ample credits to your loved ones. They did NOT die in vain. While hardly compensation for your loss....they died bringing INCREDIBLE info to, not only us viewers, but also to weather scholars & reporters worldwide. While they can't be returned to you, not to their friends and family, I hope you ALL find SOME peace in knowing that THEY....ALONE.....Brought to weather specialists some they did not, and never would, have without them. GODSPEED to you all! PLEASE DONT EVER STOP BEING PROUD OF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!!! If ANY of you EVER need someone.....a stranger with an unbiased ear, I am Yvette Huggins in Charlotte NC. Plz find me on FB or at avamonster6@gmail.com. Mark an email as "tornado" so its not lost in spam. The BEST I can do is offer than I'm here to talk to and I WILL reply ASAP! 💜❤💚💙 Please remember the 🌈 that follows 🌪 YOUR LOVED ONES ARE THE RAINBOWS & THOSE 🌈.....theyre JUST for you! 💕
I encourage others to share this too, so these brave men didnt die in vain. You never stop to think that a 2 min video could save, not only You, but also allow you to return to YOUR loved one's afterwards....that seems so simple until you realize these fine men never got that chance. And they never will. 💔
Worth a mention, the mobile radar on this storm only measured up to 296mph. They had several areas of null data on their screen, which were areas of wind moving faster than that.
Yea it got an f3 rating doe
Wow, very impressed with this video! Thanks for posting this.
Great video and music to go along with it! I especially appreciate the absence of panic-stricken passenger audio.
Do you know what music track this is?
@@suem6004 Kevin Macleod- all this
Amazing video. Sorry for those you lost 💗🙏🏼
It's amazing how deceptive the tornado looks, at no point into this video did it look to be moving fast or have 300mph winds. 🤯
It’s amazing that something that big is so difficult to see.
Great job on the video Skip, glad you guys made it out safe.
If that ever to happens to me im driving on the wrong side of the road
Many people did do that... Pecos Hank has a video showing people using 3 lanes of a 2 way 4 lane high way...
I rather stay behind and record for the media
Right, but how much good would that do?
@@aralornwolf3140 why doesn't anyone drive off road with a Truck?
Why are storm chasers using weak cars.
Will you still be doing the 10 year anniversary video? I know it’s past now, but just curious
I contributed to a Fox Weather piece on the anniversary and memorial, but not planning on doing another video on this at the moment: www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/el-reno-tornado-10-year-anniversary-storm-chaser-deaths
Team: Lets take pics and vids of the tornado
Me: Nope fuck that shit you guys go right ahead im staying away from that big death spiral shit
Hell man, if I'm ever driving during a tornado and I see some storm chasers, I'm going to beg to go with them... their cars are usually better protected, plus they have experience in evading the tornadoes... and also I'm from Nebraska, so I would likely find it fun and exciting as well. But I'm a weirdo lol
WhenUnicornsAttack AlaricTheVisigoth lol I feel you
WhenUnicornsAttack AlaricTheVisigoth unfortunately one of the most experienced of storm chasers DIED because of this tornado. No matter how knowledgeable you are, tornadoes are still incredibly unpredictable.
Most of the chasers during this tornado were actually trying to escape from it
i didnt realize how big this tornado was,till i watched this video,thank you
Eerie, scary, and dangerous.
WOW!! This is incredible footage. Glad that you were ok, Skip. RIP TWISTEX :(
don't like how poor richard henderson didnt get his name added at the start.. poor guy
+Joe99 Yeah, you know a lot of people died in that storm including storm chasers other than Richard Henderson. It was a real tragedy. Tim, Paul, and Carl were people I knew though and people that have had a big impact on me and the storm chasing community as a whole.
Of course i do, very sad to see the most experienced of all time suffer the worst fate can be :(
I have that thought every time I hear about them. It makes me wonder what his family feels since he was a chaser too and is totally ignored like a redheaded stepchild. There were only 8 people that died altogether, so why not just list the others? But the videographer says he didn't know the others so I kind of understand. But when countless TV news stations reported on the 3 only, I felt like they should've mentioned the others too instead treating them like a statistic.
+mallarysangel Henderson wasn't totally ignored, nor were the other victims of that storm. Multiple media outlets have published lists of names and accounts. Here's CNN's:
www.cnn.com/2013/06/04/us/oklahoma-storm-fatality-breakdown/
Additionally, the National Weather Service and other researchers studied the circumstances of all of these victims in detail. There are published articles on their sites and in journals such as the AMS:
ams.confex.com/ams/27SLS/webprogram/Session37219.html
Gabe Garfield of the Norman NWS has an excellent overview of this event. He goes into detail on Henderson's situation:
ruclips.net/video/TBjr-nvA2Jg/видео.html
The reason Samaras and the Twistex crew received massive amounts of media coverage, and the other victims did not, is because Samaras and crew have made huge contributions to the science of studying tornadoes and they are public figures known by millions of people. Please don't misunderstand me as Henderson's death was very much a tragedy. However, he was unknown among even local storm chasers. That we all know who he is though is proof that he was not ignored. Henderson and the others made international news, and I think a fair amount compared to the Twistex crew given the impacts they had on others' lives.
I didn't list all the victims at the start of the video because I didn't even have that information available when I started making this video. But those names at the start of the video are not an informative list of victims but a tribute to people I knew as friends. I cherish all life, but the names at the start of this video are special to me and special to the chase community and deserve special recognition.
+Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles but you have to admit when you hear 3 storm chaser;s died..i wonder like .....wait wasn't there 4?......i know you didn't mean for it to seem that way but he was a chaser too,risking his life for other's.
Great video as always Skip... Sorry for the unfortunate loss to the storm chasing community
I know this isn't part of the enhanced fujita scale, but if the winds were almost 300 mph, then this tornado could possibly have been an EF 6. This is just my take on this extremely deadly and destructive tornado.
there is no such thing as a EF 6...and this tornado was eventually rated as a EF 3 because it didn't do much damage because it was in a unpopulated area...they ultimately rate by damage and not windspeed. EF 5 windspeed may be 200+ mph but that won't necessarily make it a EF 5.Tornadoes are frequently only rated EF 3 or 4...when they have windspeeds over 200 mph.
i know the title of this video is misleading but Skip posted it when it was initially a EF 5 still...or 6 days after the event. On August 30th, which was almost 3 months after the tornado, It was downgraded to an EF 3 because of lack of damage.
Scientist actually say it is possible for an EF-6 to happen and if it did it would destroy everything in its path and rip things up from 20 feet underground and the wind topspeed would be 500 something mph
lol..you're obviously not a golfer... and there is no such thing as a category EF-6..use the power of google and look up "Enhanced Fujita Scale"...run along now and enjoy
There is such thing on the Fujita scale, but it has never happened before. :)
Even Tim Samaras lost his life in the El Reno tornado. He was an experienced chaser who would never jeopardize his life or the life of his son tracking tornadoes. It just shows the power and unpredictable forces of nature.
He, of all people, should have known better. Overconfidence breeds bad decision making.
I lived through it. Was underground with my son and dogs just 2 miles from it’s path when it finally dissipated
Soundtrack is GREAT........ kudos to Kevin MacLeod as well as whoever chose it, works really well here.
How anyone can say this is a EF3 is beyond me when dop clocked windspeed 95mph above the top end reading of an Ef5 where it cant go any higher, that alone makes it an EF5 not to mention the devastating damage done,
Louise Taylor
We just don't have a good enough understanding of tornadic wind speeds and how they translate to damage on the surface yet to rate tornadoes based on measured velocities alone. Assigning an EF5 rating these days requires the utmost confidence from surveyors that the rating is appropriate.
Peter K
"The ground scouring normally indicative of EF5 intensity is due to low pressure at the tornado's core more than wind speed."
The idea that pressure within a tornado is responsible for the damage is an urban legend. Meteorologists use to believe that by observing how the walls of houses collapsed. Today we know that the pressure difference between the inside and the outside of the strongest tornadoes is negligible, about 1.5 PSI (10%). Ground scouring and other phenomenal instance of damage in tornadoes is the result of extreme and variable low-level winds at the surface.
"Not all tornadoes which attain EF5 wind speed have low enough central pressure to scour earth. The Elie, Manitoba tornado was one example."
The 2007 Elie, Manitoba tornado was rated on the original Fujita scale. Regardless, while the tornado didn't scour the ground, it completely debarked just about every tree and shrub within the core of its damage path along with several other genuine F5 damage indicators.
"Conversely, some tornadoes which do not attain EF5 wind speeds do scour the ground - the 2011 Tuscaloosa tornado being an example (it caused significant ground scouring, but both its maximum wind speed and greatest damage screamed EF4 intensity)."
Ignoring the fact the 2011 Tuscaloosa-Concord, AL tornado may have achieved EF5 intensity, ground scouring from the event was rather minimal. However, I do acknowledge that plenty of tornadoes rated EF4 and even EF3 in some cases scour the ground, but this just makes the case of the 2013 El Reno tornado being an EF5 even weaker since it didn't manage to do so.
"Personally I think the fact that there are a lot fewer EF5 tornadoes than F5s is due less to weakening tornadoes and more due to the fact that it's pretty much impossible to give a tornado a rating of 5 on the Enhanced Fujita scale."
There hasn't necessarily been fewer EF5s now than F5s in the past. There has been 9 in the past 8 years. That's pretty much consistent with the one F5 per year average seen on the original Fujita scale. Certainly there have been some rather difficult to accept ratings (2011 Chickasaw-Blanchard, OK, Dibble, OK, 2014 Mayflower-Vilonia, AR), but such ratings also existed on the original Fujita scale too (2004 Harper, KS) along with the many F5s that don't deserve their ratings (1966 Belmond, IA, 1968 Wheelersburg, OH, 1974 Hazel Green, AL). There are certainly problems, but it has been much better than it was under the original scale.
"On the old F scale, 2011 might have seen 10 or even 15 F5 tornadoes"
Yes, is certainly might have and vice versa. But the rating standards are a little more strict today and for good reason. I personally believe the ratings for the 4/27/11 outbreak were all appropriate.
"F5 tornadoes, and 2013 might have seen five or six."
Eh... I would say two at most (Moore OK, Washington IL), maybe three (Grandbury, TX). Most of the EF4 ratings for 2013 were marginal and some were downright questionable (Rozel KS, Pierson IA). Really it's difficult to compare though. There are plenty of years on the Fujita scale that could have had more F5s too (1965).
+Peter K nope.its due to wind speed and suction.
+Peter K no.the ground scouring is due to wind velocity vortexing,not barometric pressure,lol
www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/ef-scale.html LOUISE TAYLOR
I saw all this unfold live from Portland, Oregon. I grew up in Oklahoma and I sat here in horror as that OKC weatherman told people to get in their cars and drive in it. People were also still in shock over Moore, then mix that with bad information and it could have been a much more terrible situation than it already was. Thank you for this beautiful footage and thank you for helping to protect the people I love and miss so much.
I’m truly in awe. I remember that day and another monster Mother Nature produced. 🌪🌪
Fine work. You showed the majesty and spirit of the storm.
I remember this I was in Midwest City. And thought it was going to sweep across OKC half the city was trying to get out of the way. Because of the more F-5 about 10 days earlier.
Probably the most intense tornado video I've watched with the music and everything. Lol great video.
Rainwrapped- check
Unpredictable motion- check
Largest tornado in history- check
Massive bear's cage- check
2nd fastest recorded wind speeds in history-check
Nothing TS and his crew could've done.
You're totally right about the details, but not the conclusion. There's a lot Samaras and crew could have done. It's important to point this out, not to criticize someone who is a personal hero of mine, but so that others don't lose their lives for the same reasons.
Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles It took a sudden left turn at the last minute. Almost took out Mike Bettes and his crew as well, in addition to the stormhighway crew. In terms of chasing it was a particularly dangerous situation that even the best had trouble dealing with. The only thing they could've done would be a mile or so back like stormhighway was, but even he got caught in the inflow jet.
Thanks. Yes, I've studied the storm and these chasers' routes in depth. I have a lengthy video with recommendations on how encounters with this tornado could have been avoided, and some general storm chasing advice:
ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
Samaras, Bettes, and Robinson made critical mistakes that could have been avoided. Again, this isn't to criticize these chasers, but to learn from these mistakes so that more chasers aren't hurt or killed on future events for making the same mistakes. I almost bought it myself for making my own mistakes on that chase.
Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles I'll give it a watch later. Off the top of my head the only thing I can think of would be giving the bear's cage greater distance and keeping an eye out for the tornadic circulation that doesn't have a funnel but I'm always willing to learn more.
Skip Talbot's Storm Chasing Chronicles Also, didn't Samaras in particular get too close for a sudden enlargement? Usually that's not too much of a factor (not everyday a twister is 2.6 miles in diameter) but in this situation it was. I'll make sure to check out the link
Holy crap... Planning to be meteorologist wen im older... Fascinating... Great vid
QUADRICORN3 did you become one?
This tornado has two ratings, having EF-3 and EF-5 depending on who you ask. I have never heard of such a difference in rating EF-3 and EF-5 is a big difference. I think of it as EF-5, but I know others that say different. Funny, right?
I would agree this is an EF-5 based on size. Rating it an EF-3 is an insult to truly how dangerous this tornado was. In perspective if this tornado had hit Oklahoma City we would have been talking major damage and death toll.
If it had just made it to Peidmont or Yukon (suburbs of OKC) it would've been very very bad.
Yes it would have, It would be EF-5 then. What a shame to call it an EF-3!
TheWayStormChasingTeam [OFFICIAL] There's a lot of debate on this tornado's damage capabilities. Please see these presentations if you're truly interested in what went into rating that tornado and the resulting debate: ams.confex.com/ams/27SLS/webprogram/Session37219.html
While the tornado was exceptionally large, the 300 mph winds occurred over a very small area associated with a sub vortex, and that subvortex was moving incredibly fast, faster than 100 mph at times. Many locations in the track would have experienced those intense winds for less than a second. Some meteorologists and scientists argue that's not enough time to inflict EF-5 damage on some structures. Others would like to use the vehicles that were hit as damage indicators, but the EF scale currently does take them into consideration because there's no baseline for how vehicle damage correlates to tornado strength.
***** Thank you for this information! It is amazing how much debate this storm has had.
What was the vehicle you where driving?
What is the music the epic one
Skip, you and your crew caught amazing footage. Absolutely stunning watching that tornado 🌪 swirl and change shape within that wall of rain 🌧.
Did you guys see that ghost at 2:22?
That was a bag. My paranormal researcher side was disappointed...
k5lta Dude.. That was totally a ghost!
THATS A PAPER BAG! :D
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Whoa awesome footage! The El Rino tornado was a monster! Truly beautiful. RIP Paul, Tim, and Carl.
i miss Tim Samaras he shouldnt have went out that day :(
apologies for asking, but what happened to Tim?
Tim and Paul Samaras, and Carl Young were killed after being overtaken by the tornado and then having their vehicle impacted by a fast moving and intense subvortex. There are a few videos out there that try to explain and make sense of these events:
ruclips.net/video/TBjr-nvA2Jg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
+Nicksudenga he was decapitated
Same here. But Tim was one of the biggest advocates of safety EVER, and they just got stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time. His work is legendary, and his passing served to remind ALL storm chasers of the consequences of not being aware of your surroundings or not taking care. He did and was aware, but it was just his time to go.... It still breaks my heart.
Some people surmise that Tim went into the wrong direction, but Tim Samaras was THE best at doing what he did and understanding the science of tornadoes. Personally? He was caught up in a tornado with no way to get out with Paul and Carl, and it picked up Tim's Chevy Cobalt and threw it a half mile. There were no survivors.
This is excellent. The music makes it. El Reno…just the name suggests a showdown. RIP Team Twistex
I bet this is what the tri-state looked like....
Except that it's covered with debris, not rain-wrapped
Excellent footage as always, Skip! Happy to see that you made it out of there safely - crazy day up there.
Mrdynamics.... Well these two tornadoes actually looked quite similar, low fast rotating wall cloud, black cloud base, very high HP supercell, fast spinning vortices. Dont listen to that one "research group" who disputed joplin being an ef5 saying the building codes were not up to standard, yes , they were from the 70's, like xenia oh.... Also what the joplin tornado did to cars, ive never seen, i went to joplin myself after the tornado because i have family there, volunteered and studied the damage, this """"""""research group"""""""" failed to notice and mention one thing...... The trees!! They are as debarked, whittled down leaning twigs as ive ever seen in all the high end ef5's. Now the weather channel has said, well maybe it was a low end ef5 in random spots... Bull shit!!!! Just because one """"research group"""" comes in and disagrees w the nws and thinks it was an ef3 or ef4 ("up, cant have that, cant have someone in "meteorology" disagree so much w us, so maybe we will call this a low end ef5, bull shit!!! Look at the trees, it was no low end ef5
Actually that was one tornado with two in it lol
You sir, are an artist with a lens. Awesome tribute to some awesome men.
Always wanted to be a storm chaser .talk about adrenaline rush
Actually El Reno gave the biggest adrenaline to half or more storm chasers that day.
@@allshipper2158 I remember watching the documentary inside the mega twister where it was described as so bad that a good number of Chasers just dumped the storm altogether to get to safety. This storm was just something else.
Magnificent video. Powerful, A+ memorial for them. Such a thoughtful tribute. Thank you very much.
Love, Everybody.
Living in the East Side of USA is better because there wont be tornados or atleast some tornados because it isnt humid all year long meanwhile the South And West get hit atleast once a year Especially Oklahoma.. Don't even understand why people decide to live in Oklahoma its like a Tornado magnet..
To some of us here, the fear can cause an adrenaline rush, and let me tell you...these storms are VERY EXHILARATING!!! Speaking of, I think I hear it hailing outside lol
I'd say it's better here on the West Coast, you guys there get bad hurricanes.. Although we are vulnerable to Yellowstone and perhaps earthquakes/tsunamis
RNG Mula the plains is where it's at.... These storms are incredible to see in real life.
A hurricane is basically a gigantic tornado. Ours cover a few square miles; yours are hundreds of miles wide and cover counties or even states. You decide.
Totally scary experience, glad you made it out alive. Craziest most unpredictable tornado I ever seen. Thanks for sharing this incredible video.
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Hey skip i have a question, i have loved multi vortex tornados cus' of there beauty, but i never exactly knew how they can be formed, the only few tornados i have chased were mostly cones with some stove pipes here and there, also another question, is it "tornados" or "tornadoes".
Most if not all tornadoes are actually multivortex, meaning they're comprised of many smaller subvortices, even if the subvortices are not readily apparent. A surge in the RFD can cause vortex breakdown, which can disrupt the tornado and result in a distinct multivortex phase.
Either spelling is technically correct, but "tornadoes" is the preferred spelling of meteorologists and chasers, while "tornados" refers to the fried gas station snack.
@@skiptalbot i see
I saw this on Netflix and couldnt believe it. Now for the chasers out there, if its 2.6 miles wide shouldn't be listed as an F6? Im just curious.
Tornadoes are rated based on damage, not size, or even wind speed since we almost never have wind speed measurements for tornadoes. We don't rate based on size because there isn't correlation between intensity and size. You can have an extremely wide tornado that's very weak, or an incredibly powerful "drillbit" that's only tens of yards across.
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I got it. Thanks Skip!!
These storms are becoming more and more powerful. Do you think they may just add an EF6 category to the Fujita Scale soon? 😯
Hey, Fred. I don't mean to be the "Adam Ruins Everything" guy of storm chasing, but no and no. ;) Storms are not getting more and more powerful, with the exception of maaaybe hurricanes. But this isn't the case with tornadoes... probably. Instead we've just been able to track them in much more detail recently, and there are now a lot more people to get in the way of them. There will never be an EF6 rating. The scale is designed to be open ended such that EF5 is as high as it will ever go.
Thank you for this, Skip.
Skip at 2:50 in the video when tornado was at peak width, I’m having trouble seeing the left and right edges of it. Were you able to tell?
At the time it was difficult to discern the tornado's bounds, but it's basically the entire area under that shaggy cloud mass. Keep in mind that the wind field that actually defines the tornado's size is much larger than the clouds suggest. I have the approximate size and location overlaid on the video here: ruclips.net/video/bJOjjzHUwsk/видео.html
Best overview video about the El Reno tornado
This is the most interesting tornado in history. Not just because of the tragedy associated with it but also the complexities in the tornado itself. I have studied every piece of video of this storm and you will see things going on in it that you won’t find in any other tornado video.
Terrific, I was hoping someone had footage of the anticyclone! Well done.
Great video Skip, felt it captured the day well. Watching with interest how everything is unfolding with this storm from Oz.
Almost, 20yrs later and I still feel your touch!
Was the cause of the tornado due to the atmospheric pressure from the cool temperatures at El Reno lake?
While the lake may have had a tiny influence on the storm, it's a drop in the bucket on the overall scale of things. The storm itself was much larger than Lake El Reno, and drawing its inflow south of the lake. The extreme atmospheric instability, available wind shear, and southeast storm motion deviant to the mean flow played much bigger roles in the development of the tornado.
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I think I got the picture of it, it was amazing seeing the carousel affect that the tornado created hard to believe that three tornadoes fused into one causing such catastrophe.
Some impressive captures! It was my first ever time out to try to capture something like this and some of my video and my stills could have been so much better. Glad to see others got such great video of this thing! It was terrifying and awe-inspiring at the same time. I can’t believe some of you guys got so close to it. Those storms that kept coming south into Minco, etc. were pretty spooky too! I kept going south and the storms just kept following me.
Great video Skip. We left for home on the 30th. I'm actually glad we missed this storm.
Between Pecos Hank’s gruff exterior and Skip Talbot’s calm demeanor, I’ve learned more about tornados (and chasing them) than I ever thought I would. Now I know how tornados form, and that my nutsack isn’t nearly as big as I thought it was. These vids are nightmare fuel for me.
1:40 this timelapse is what gives a real perspective on how huge this thing was, in most footage of it, it just looks like a wall of rain
I’ve watched this so many times and I still cannot see it.
A fine Video, and a fine tribute to what sounds to me like a memory of a son and friend who would have you be safe and take care of each other and your great community of enthusiasts and professionals. I never met any of them, but from what I've seen of them, I believe we could all feel safe in saying they would appreciate it.
I admire you all.. and i do see several great potentials for you to make a huge difference with youtube.
Absolutely breathtaking....great video and RIP
brilliant footage, great editing and music as always Skip!
What an intense presentation. I enjoyed this video.
Every moment I spend learning about this tornado the more I come to realize how much of a freak of nature this storm was
When you piece together everyone's footage. A downed power line saved the lives of Reed Timmer, the Dominator crew, and the Discovery Channel team. They were only 1mile behind Twistex but one street closer to the tornado. It would've sped up and grown directly into their fleet killing him, his team, and the Discovery channel crew.