SXS Shotgun accuracy with SLUGS???
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2023
- Carrying on from my last video about using a SXS Shotgun as a double rifle, lets delve into what kind of accuracy I'm getting out of it.
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This video makes the “double rifle” (shotgun) video so much better😂
I really hope you keep uploading to RUclips!!
Great video, a practical slug gun, agree only has be accurate enough to hit pig/deer at 40m max. If you know the right barrel is low & right aim high and left.
The Russians use a wad screwed into a slug and claim greatly improved accuracy. The slug gun would work well with SSG(.30/7.62mm).
I new a Oz big game hunter(now deceased) who shot a tiger with a paradox in India circa 1966, at 25m, while shooting driven pigs, the tiger had circled
around behind him crouched ready to pounce, hit it just above the left eye, I have seen the skin.
There a lot of old s/s that would make good slug guns, now not practical for most shotgun shooting in Oz.
Now that is a cool story!
I always dream about shotgun like this for deer shotgun season exactly what you did ...beauty. i would probably sight one barrel for slug and maybe use buckshot in the other.
Great job 👏
You idea & execution is good & you have proof of concept 👏👏👍🇭🇲
For the neigh sayers 72 double rifles were a thing especially for close in dangerous game 👍
Thanks Ed, really enjoyable, I have not heard the term baloney used in years. And great explanation of "regulating" and what you would need to do. Cheers
I use a stoger SXS coach gun with standard improved cyl barrels and standard winchester super x 1oz slugs and i can tell u at 30 meters not feet or yards i can put slugs in a baseball shape right a left barrels for a brand new cheap ass shotgun its one of my favorites to use pigs a foxes dont like it
Super cool man! Wish you luck on your next hunt with it.
Outstanding project, outstanding results. Great job👍
Thanks mate
Well done Sir. Good shooting.
Good response to the critics
Theres so many older shotguns out there for sale on the cheap. Your last few videos have got me thinking of how useful they still are. Ive been obsessing over the latest high capacity stuff like lever release and straighpulls
With hand loading shotgun slugs, I'm having the best luck with what they call the Diablo slug that looks like a oversized a gun pellet, might be an option, good shooting and thanks for your videos.
Ive got those too. I have some more testing to do with different loads, but I'm pretty happy so far
Pretty impressive for an old side by side originally designed for shot. Looks the part too!
Great segment, I shot a JP Sauer (Not expensive inheritance) 30-06 under and 16g over, I shot many deer with that rifle and mostly with the 16g solids, I'm not sure if I also have to prove it but it shot both slug and pill 2" high on the bull at 100 best versatile rifle I ever had
Thanks Cobber, Loved the work done and good luck hunting! I wonder how she would shoot with 12 ga round ball? would love to see that! any way thanks again for the great content!
I'd probably go with a semi-auto 12 gauge and a rifled barrel or a semi- auto like one of my Remington model 8s for that kind of hunting, but nice fun DIY project. Here in Arizona, most of my shooting is at really long range from ridge to ridge in mountain country, either desert or forested up on the Mogollon Rim.
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Oh no brother he's from the Northern part of the country we don't talk that way in the south my Nana is from up there in Michigan and she talks si-boggly like that sometimes. I love the build and I think a smooth-bore is plenty even for distances that dangerous game is taken from what i've seen in videos.
Love the value purchase and well rationalized build. Especially the well explained fit for purpose. I thought you did a great job overall, with particular good taste on the little detailed metal work for the front & rear sight ramps & sight assemblies.
I myself have thought often about using rifled slugs with the Invector+ Cylinder choke tubes in my O/U instead of buckshot for close range work on deer & pigs. But I’ve never followed that up with a range test on how that would pattern/regulate. You’ve inspired me!! However, it’s a pretty gun with a low number serial # on a limited production run model. Not exactly a “tromp through the mud, grit, & gravel” selection.
If I could find a similar brand, model, & condition SxS 12ga or 20ga through one of my local retailers, would you be interested in some work, and what would be an estimate on the value of the work you did to your gun? I wouldn’t hold to the penny on a current figment of my Imagination to work with. I understand I individual reality would have to be assessed. What would be a ballpark price range to do the specific work you actually did again?
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Hey mate, thanks for your kind words. Email me at hical.fo@gmail and I’ll sort you out. Otherwise I might get in trouble from RUclips.
Good video 👍
I watched the other video last night and this showed up on my RUclips page. I thought you did a hell of a lot of work to recreate a gun for your needs. I understood what you said in that video. I say that it shot pretty good. I don't know what you were shooting for slugs, it seems to me that some other ammo might shoot a tad better but it's plenty accurate for what you want to do. I would suspect that inside of 50 meters, you will be fine. Or how far you can hit a Canilope melon.
I just bought an old stirling single barell for roughly 100 bucks. Keen to see how capable it is. I heard someone point out that with the diversity of shotgun ammunition and a single barell 12 guage you could kill most things on the planet. Which i find an interesting concept
I think im gonna keep a double barrel in the truck this year for hunting season see what a slug does to a fat Montana Muel deer. Thanks for sharing good sir. Was curious how it would group. Looking at a Citadel double barrel its relatively inexpensive and i want it for the experience. Cheers mate!
Gotta love the people in the comments who always seem to know better, I'm sure they have great RUclips channels and put heaps effort into making informative videos too🙄. I've got a Baikal TOZ 54 hammer coach gun made in USSR in 1976 choked 3/4 in both barrels and I actually really like it, built like a Russian tank and patterns really well at 50 surprisingly. They are cheap in comparison but the older ones are heaps better than any thing they made past 1980s on.
The later baikals are junk from my experience. Glad your one is good though.
I've got an old early 70's TOZ hammer coach gun. "Built like tractor, strong like ox"!! I absolutely love the old thing, and even use it occasionally busting some clays when I really want to show up my mates with their $6,000+ shotties. That pisses them right off lol. 🤣
Personally I thought it wad pretty good in all aspects. I wouldn't be ashamed to own it at all! Might be able to match the finish using the wax from a new toilet bowl ring. No joke. Hand rub it in to blend. It works.
Ah yes the old Mark Novak toilet bowl ring trick. Bees wax works just as good and is easier to get for us in Australia.
Comment of the year “most of the time it works quite good” 😂
Unless the wad gets stuck to the key drive haha. Had that happen a couple of times.
Well, this yank thinks that double is pretty freaking cool, and now I want one!
Great video ... well there you have , so stick that up your " Yanky Doodle Day " ....
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Mate that SxS is going to be a beast on pigs and deer flushed out, 2 quick slugs and a fast reload is very effective. The la sorda base going to be good for long term slug use? I have a nice example myself and only used no7.5s and no4s.
Its a very strong action and has a greener cross bolt. I wouldnt recommend it for something with a single bite, or even a double bite... which rules out quite a lot of shotguns.
Certainly minute of sambar
We mere Aussies will ALWAYS have some subtle deficiency in knowledge (or surplus of baloney) to the great American patriots that know - "C'mon man, ya know, the thing...."
Well...yeah. It's the thing!
I’m American I enjoyed the video don’t give a shit if he could hit the side of a barn with it! We or not all assholes sorry you feel that way !
They have 12x the population of Australia which unfortunately also means about 12x the arseholes.
I call smiley faced ham on the whole situation, there is no shotgun and its all CGI.
What a complete load of smiley faced ham.
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Would it be possible to rifle the last few inches of the barrels like the old Holland and Holland Parradox guns and how much to build me one
Yeah it would be possible by threading the barrels for chokes and then installing rifled chokes. It depends on a few things, and I would only build it on a shotgun with certain attributes. To chop the barrels, manufacture sight bases, buy the front and rear sight inserts, ream/thread the barrels, buy and install rifled chokes you'd be looking somewhere in the vicinity of $500-$1000.
Fuck your a funny bloke. Love the info in the vids too.
good vid, and good explanation of the issues faced with re-regulating. especially the yanks seem to be obsessed with shooting tiny groups, but i really can't understand the craze. if i can kill a deer ethically, that's all i care about. a 3.5 inch group is plenty for that. some people just can't fathom that if a gun shoots less than MOA it can still kill shit effectively.
again, nice to see an old gun getting some love.
I think its because a lot of them hunt long range where that kind of accuracy has merit. A SXS slug gun would be awesome for the shotgun only states.
@@fhckoutdoorsa SXS slug gun would be awesome for anything full stop. you're making me want one now...
@@TheKetamineSquid I'll build it for you...
Great video mate as for balony isn't that some sausage made from lips arseholes & hooves 😂
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How about instead of cutting off the barrels you try broaching rifling where the chokes are?
Fixed chokes are not parallel. It would have been easier to ream/thread for removable chokes and put in rifled ones.
Didn't think about removable chokes. I guess you're already at your accuracy goal anyway. @@fhckoutdoors
I have a churchill u /o 20 inch. At 50 m there is 12 inches of difference between poi. Its not a double rifle. 🤔
@@KimEvans-vd9ko 12 inches is huge
My son in law is a pig hunter here in NZ and he is after a rifle for close work as an emergency backup'. He uses a knife to finish then pig once it is bailed up. He has brought a single shot .410 an this folds nicely but he says it is very loud. He wants to get it suppressed. I have told him he can use 45 colt, 44 mag and fit a suppressor. Will this work.? It does with those pistols that shoot .410 as well as 45 colt. He wants to be as quiet as he can when in the bush
I wouldnt recommend using 45 colt or 44 mag in a 410 unless its been check by a gunsmith and reproofed. Not all shotguns are built the same and some can blow up when firing pistol cartridges from them.
Thank you very much for the reply. @@fhckoutdoors
American double guy here.
I call double baloney on the baloney caller...or was it bologna?
I have converted a few shotguns using Ellis Browns book as a guide with good results. Regulating is tedious, and I think my countryman has missed your point altogether.
I have been considering doing exactly what you have done.
Recently, I learned how accurate a slug from a smooth bore could be...it was surprising!
Anyway, given that we kill hogs close enough to smell them, 88.9 mm at 50 meters is fine.
The current project here is an old Crescent Arms Quail Special.
It's a small frame .410 with a third bite.
I found a second set of barrels, so I have decided to make the second set of barrels into 28 Steven's, an old straight wall black powder caliber.
Your compatriot Bruce Bertram in Seymore Vic. has made it possible by supplying me with some shiny new brass.
I am not yet sure what this little gun will be good for, but practicality, or the lack thereof, has never bothered me too much.
Great content!
I've also got that book, its a great read! Interesting build mate, I'd be keen to see your progress as you go along.
@@fhckoutdoors I hope to bring it over! Roughly where are you?
@@seanwoodburn2616 I'm in Central Vic mate, not far from Seymour.
@fhuckoutdoors I stay in Cranbourne North when I am there.
It will probably be March, 2024 this year.
Great video and good results on that build, shot within its parameters that gun is putting meat on your table, while dick face is eating baloney sandwiches and smoking his husbands baloney, only thing I may disagree on is the baikal my baikal has had over 13000 shots put through it and never really looked after was my truck gun on stations and still going strong just looks like shit. But g the hats the beauty we can all have opinions and don’t need to agree with each other
Buddy let the know it all's know it all. Even if you did a video live they will say you eddited it. You do you fhuck the nay sayers. Most guys talking trash couldnt build a house out of legos. Realistically if you like it your happy with it that's all that matters.
Thanks mate.
@@fhckoutdoors anytime dont let the f#ck t@rds get to ya
Yeah that’s not regulated
1, Most higher quality combination guns are intended to be used with slugs at close range with the sights on the barrel. They are not regulated with a wedge in the muzzle, just assembled by experienced gunsmiths with the muzzles at the right distance apart. 2, Baikal guns are not horrible junk, they are actually well made and hard working guns for a very good price. Their mass produced shoguns have stocks that fit no one at all, anywhere. But the actions and barrels are quite OK. My favorite .22lr target pistol is the IZH35M by Baikal, and it's an extraordinary design. Russians are very good gun designers over all!
1, when did we start talking about combination guns?
2, you're allowed to have an opinion about Baikals. So am I.
1,We never did until I brought it up. My point was that double barrel guns, in general, can shoot quite OK at close range w o any regulation. 2, Freedom of speech guarantees your right to be wrong@@fhckoutdoors
@@CandidZulu Most combination guns are also O/U not SXS. Happy to be wrong about Baikals. I dont like them.
I call baloney 😂
I guess you did not know that here in America you are guilty until proven innocent
Idk i apologize for any Americans who nay-sayed. I think its cool
I wonder if he is man enough to respond?
If he does it will either be a back-peddle or stick to his guns hard.
Theres so many older shotguns out there for sale on the cheap. Your last few videos have got me thinking of how useful they still are. Ive been obsessing over the latest high capacity stuff like lever release and straighpulls
Mate they are pretty useful. Don't have to worry about if the shells will cycle or not, they carry very well, super short and a lot of fun. From my experience newer shotguns do not group slugs very will because they have wider bores - unless you use rifled barrels or chokes.
@@fhckoutdoors yeah I've seen some videos on older shotguns patterning really well. And the ability to eat any shell without issue