I noticed in the movie Rocky 1(1976) in the beginnig of the movie when Rocky is outside talking to the mob guy in the car and there is a train passing in the background. That train was pretty clean. In New York during 1976 a train like that wouldn't exist. Also, in the movie West Side Story (1960) you could see "graffiti" throughout the movie. I'm not into graffiti or hip-hop but it seems that this is about Cornbread being black, and Taki and Julio are not.
Cornbread himself acknowledged that he didn't create Graffiti but modernized it as as an urban artist and tagger. This guy tries to sound like an intellectual authority but sounds lame as hell. Cornbread is documented since the 60s. They hate us real for us.
His misunderstanding of Bird Lives does speak volumes... I think his intention may have been good, because he makes a lot of generous and informative content, but the fact that he ignores that Philadelphia had a parallel graffiti subculture that was happening in the 1970s and that gangster hands from Philly became Broadway Elegant via TOP CAT 126 is significant. It's not just writing graffiti that creates the subculture as we know it today, because graffiti has been happening for thousands of years. I would argue it's the idea of going around and writing your name everywhere with spray paint, not just in your neighborhood, that is the foundation of modern graffiti culture, and that seems to happen first in Philly, not Los Angeles, not New York, not São Paulo. Thank you for this great video! I'm working on an essay on graffiti and it was really elucidating. Peace to you.
I probably would have turned him off when he said hieroglyphics (Medu Neter) is graffiti. If you start in misinformation I can't expect clarity afterwards 😂
The guy from that video doesn't understand the difference between general graffiti and the modern movement that came from the lone "serial tagger" who bombed their name for fame.
@AKiEM, Cornbread went all city in Philly, he was not the first or only writer in philly at the time but that’s not necessarily important here what has never been established is that the graffiti in NYC was inspired by what the individual cornbread was doing or that no graffiti movement existed in NYC prior to whenever cornbread was doing his thing… above all what makes “hip hop” graffiti different from other American graffiti movements like Chicano or philly graffiti is that it evolved to utilize subway trains creating the unique style that is associated with hip hop
@@garciaizm I think it’s ‘possible’ some parts of the Philly movement inspired NYC directly or through the media (more than just TopCat) I think it’s probably there were a good number of writers around the country who started independently who eventually folded into the larger movement. I also think the paint and marker technology played a larger roll than most people consider. I agree NYC transit was important for NYC, and the Philly transit system was less important in Philly (but still important) but I can’t agree that the subway is what makes Graff HipHop. I don’t think you can just cut out all the Philly artists who were bombing and developing hand styles without too much concern for piecing till later. All that Philly work folds into the culture.
@@AKiEM. I agree it’s possible too maybe even likely that philly writers were able to bring their structure to their contemporaries in NYC since they are relatively close to each other but again it was a larger movement than one individual. It’s my understanding that there was gang graffiti in NYC at least by the 50’s if not earlier and by the late 60’s many writers who were adding numbers to their names to add a more individual identity. It’s my opinion that this movement would have still ended up on the subway trains regardless of a Philadelphia presence. It was on the trains that the tags became throw ups and hollow letters and eventually to pieces. When writing finally made it to the trains it didn’t return to the walls of the city until the MTA started locking down the cars to the point where walls became the best option… I’ve got nothing but respect for philly graffiti and the style/flows that were created in their section
Julio 204 and taki were graff gods in ny from the late 60s...none were racist fba/fbi..hip hop co creators just posted a video from 65 and there was mad graff all over the place..south bronx
@@akaicruise Julio 204 was not ever a “graff god” until well after he was gone and Taki mentioned him. Otherwise no one would have heard of him. I don’t know what video you are talking about. But what “race” are you so I can understand the “raythist” nonsense you are talking about.
Im happy i was put down years ago not once did I see graffiti going this commercial when I was a teen like it is now that I’m in adult shits corny and watered down now black books ain’t even cool no more
I wanna know the people behind these pages..who are they? Where are they from? What have they done for the culture? How old are they? Are they black supremacists? Are they fba/fbi?
I glad I grew up with man as a father and was to establish useful skills. I can work anything from building to machines to music gear. These are baby boys who have other men cow into their house and such. Yeah. 😂. Baby boys. Drawing on buildings other men build. Gross
Tired of these vultures running their mouths like they created our stuff but in the same token hate us
Latin ppl are obsessed with our culture its weird
It started from Philadelphia to New York.
I noticed in the movie Rocky 1(1976) in the beginnig of the movie when Rocky is outside talking to the mob guy in the car and there is a train passing in the background. That train was pretty clean. In New York during 1976 a train like that wouldn't exist.
Also, in the movie West Side Story (1960) you could see "graffiti" throughout the movie.
I'm not into graffiti or hip-hop but it seems that this is about Cornbread being black, and Taki and Julio are not.
Not a coherent sentence or statement
Bingo!!!! All of these fba dudes are racist
Culture vultures!
Cornbread himself acknowledged that he didn't create Graffiti but modernized it as as an urban artist and tagger. This guy tries to sound like an intellectual authority but sounds lame as hell. Cornbread is documented since the 60s. They hate us real for us.
His misunderstanding of Bird Lives does speak volumes... I think his intention may have been good, because he makes a lot of generous and informative content, but the fact that he ignores that Philadelphia had a parallel graffiti subculture that was happening in the 1970s and that gangster hands from Philly became Broadway Elegant via TOP CAT 126 is significant. It's not just writing graffiti that creates the subculture as we know it today, because graffiti has been happening for thousands of years. I would argue it's the idea of going around and writing your name everywhere with spray paint, not just in your neighborhood, that is the foundation of modern graffiti culture, and that seems to happen first in Philly, not Los Angeles, not New York, not São Paulo. Thank you for this great video! I'm working on an essay on graffiti and it was really elucidating. Peace to you.
Who was the first dog that took a piss on a fire hydrant?
CORN BREAD 1967 !!!!
ALL I KNOW IS MY SQUAD INVENTED THE WICKED, THE STYLE PHILLY IS KNOWN FOR, THATS ALL I EVER CARED ABOUT ... We out here cauzin Sub Atomic Massacres 1
Illest handstyle there is imo. Salute 🫡
I probably would have turned him off when he said hieroglyphics (Medu Neter) is graffiti. If you start in misinformation I can't expect clarity afterwards 😂
The guy from that video doesn't understand the difference between general graffiti and the modern movement that came from the lone "serial tagger" who bombed their name for fame.
I think he does understand it, hes just lying
the diss at the end with the mirror video is wild though lol didn't have to do him like that
You going to make an agua video mi boi ?
@AKiEM, Cornbread went all city in Philly, he was not the first or only writer in philly at the time but that’s not necessarily important here what has never been established is that the graffiti in NYC was inspired by what the individual cornbread was doing or that no graffiti movement existed in NYC prior to whenever cornbread was doing his thing… above all what makes “hip hop” graffiti different from other American graffiti movements like Chicano or philly graffiti is that it evolved to utilize subway trains creating the unique style that is associated with hip hop
@@garciaizm I think it’s ‘possible’ some parts of the Philly movement inspired NYC directly or through the media (more than just TopCat) I think it’s probably there were a good number of writers around the country who started independently who eventually folded into the larger movement. I also think the paint and marker technology played a larger roll than most people consider. I agree NYC transit was important for NYC, and the Philly transit system was less important in Philly (but still important) but I can’t agree that the subway is what makes Graff HipHop. I don’t think you can just cut out all the Philly artists who were bombing and developing hand styles without too much concern for piecing till later. All that Philly work folds into the culture.
@@AKiEM. I agree it’s possible too maybe even likely that philly writers were able to bring their structure to their contemporaries in NYC since they are relatively close to each other but again it was a larger movement than one individual. It’s my understanding that there was gang graffiti in NYC at least by the 50’s if not earlier and by the late 60’s many writers who were adding numbers to their names to add a more individual identity. It’s my opinion that this movement would have still ended up on the subway trains regardless of a Philadelphia presence. It was on the trains that the tags became throw ups and hollow letters and eventually to pieces. When writing finally made it to the trains it didn’t return to the walls of the city until the MTA started locking down the cars to the point where walls became the best option… I’ve got nothing but respect for philly graffiti and the style/flows that were created in their section
Was that MF Doom?
RIP - yes indeed.
Julio 204 and taki were graff gods in ny from the late 60s...none were racist fba/fbi..hip hop co creators just posted a video from 65 and there was mad graff all over the place..south bronx
@@akaicruise Julio 204 was not ever a “graff god” until well after he was gone and Taki mentioned him. Otherwise no one would have heard of him.
I don’t know what video you are talking about. But what “race” are you so I can understand the “raythist” nonsense you are talking about.
like I though, no answer
Im happy i was put down years ago not once did I see graffiti going this commercial when I was a teen like it is now that I’m in adult shits corny and watered down now black books ain’t even cool no more
BER 1984 NPH
I wanna know the people behind these pages..who are they? Where are they from? What have they done for the culture? How old are they? Are they black supremacists? Are they fba/fbi?
That’s because you want to attack me/us instead of deal the the information.
What's a Black supremacist 🤔
What does black supremacy mean
I glad I grew up with man as a father and was to establish useful skills. I can work anything from building to machines to music gear. These are baby boys who have other men cow into their house and such. Yeah. 😂. Baby boys. Drawing on buildings other men build. Gross
other men "cow" into their houses, what does that mean?
Soulja boy did it first