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Did he say southern Oregon (Medford) has affordable living?? I'd like to know where, because I work full-time and can't afford the average apartment on a single income.
I live in Glendale and have for 15 years it has its flaws but the town is full of good people and families. I’ve lived in other parts of the country but I love Oregon. And Glendale is surrounded by beautiful mountains.
Everywhere has bad parts lol. I was born and raised here. It's not that bad! But please keep making videos like this, it keeps people from moving here.
And not much to entertain people. I had family and have some in Obrien. NO jobs too hurts. I hate that the river is mostly dried up. I had a great childhood with family there.
For real, I would pretty much live any of the places on the list rather than Grants Pass...it's not just the problems it has, it's that it doesn't really have much going for it that's good. I live in West Medford and it's a little rough around the edges but it's not bad.
Well, this is a realtor, after all. He has no incentive to mention the 2/3 of Southern Oregon that is East of the Cascade Range. All the places he says are horrible, that are actually (mostly) are beautiful places, but this REALTOR doesn't have any listings in.....
Yeah. Shout out from Klamath Falls. We know we suck. It’s great because you’re close to nature, but there’s not much else to do here. Not a lot of good restaurants. Not a lot for kids to do in the winter. We are 1 1/2-2 hours from any city with a Panda Express. Lol Just my two cents.
I grew up in Rogue River and only places I would not live/visit include: west part of Medford (aka South Medford High area) by Blackbird store off West Main St. is HORRIBLE... has been since the 90's. White City used to be sketchy and trailer park city, but is starting to clean up because east Medford is so expensive. Gold Hill is just poor, but still fun. Cave Junction is just depressing and stuck in the 80s, and not in a good way. Agreed, Cave Junction/Illinois Valley has always been "Pot Central". Surprised you didn't mention anything about Klamath Falls and the meth issue out there.
I thought south Medford high was off Garfield in South Medford. But yah anything nothing north of Stewart to Jackson Street on the North along Columbus is the shits for sure!🤢
People can get their knickers in a twist, but your assessment is spot on. What these naysayers aren't taking into consideration is you're in real estate. Most agents don't warn people about this kind of thing. I've lived in Southern Oregon since 1976. West Medford and White City are crime hubs. Williams and Wolf Creek and a few other places are chock full of hippies and pot farms. Sam's Valley is dry and has one store. There are beautiful places here but there's places i wouldn't buy property.
Was born in grants passed, lived in LA since i was a few mths old. Moved back to GP a few years ago. GP and medford are sooo much safer than LA, even on medfords worst day it doesnt even compare to the bs youre regularly dealing with in socal.
Yea i been to Oakland i can say its worse than medford… but to be fair hes talking about southern Oregon… not Illinois Michigan or cali lol if he was talking in general i believe that Portland would be discussed
Stop getting your knickers in a twist... Listen to what he says at the end. It is a beautiful state. There's a lot of wonderful things about it, however, everything he said is true. Good grief! Stop letting your feelings and your emotions override common sense.
I lived in the Cave Junction area for over 2 years and while it’s technically a problem filled area, I actually loved living there. I moved because of lack of opportunity and everything was moving in the wrong direction but there’s an intangible quality to it and I have a nostalgia that I haven’t felt for anywhere else.
My family lived on a small farm in Glendale for 10 Yrs. All was well until the Oregon Government got into the pot business. Both farms around me were sold to pot growers, who were ex-falons from California. I called he sheriff more then seven times regarding crimes occurring, yet they never responded. The growers ran me off the road once, and shot out the rear window of my truck once, yet no law enforcement ever responded. We sold the farm, to a drug dealer, for half the recorded value. My wife was raised in Cave Junction. It was a drug city way back in the 60's. In one year there were 7 unsolved murders, one being a relative. Your lecture was spot on, thank you.
You’re absolutely correct about Selma and CJ. That place is the real Dodge City of SO. 199 is also one of the deadliest highways in the state. It’s crazy out there. I definitely have some stories about that area.
Even when CJ did have LE , the rural layout and geography of CJ is impossible to cover like a city. If you wish to live rurally, you need a skillset to take care of yourself. Thank you for this as we don't need people here that would be a liability.
I like living on the west side of medford, off king between Stewart and 14th...all my neighbors are full time workers, most own their homes, never had serious or even petty crime, always see cops cruising the streets. My household income is around 150k, and when i bought my house 10 years , was way cheap. Compared to now dont know how people can afford houses here or on the Eastside
Generational meth abuse has made some of these areas unlivable. Too many people with mental problems to deal with because of the decades of meth abuse.
Finally someone said it because unless things totally changed I had a terrible experience in southern Oregon because of the insane amount of meth heads and people on psychedelic drugs like acid and mushrooms. Everyone also smokes pot and is an alcoholic so I would not recommend raising kids here especially in Medford OR Ashland. Then again I was there 25 years ago so I'm not sure how much worse it has gotten.
I work in the medical field and you are spot on! We are into 3rd generation addicts at least. Developmentally delayed, mental problems, absence of life skills to name a few. Spot on @SRSOSChannel2!
A very accurate list. 82 grad from Meddie. Left & now despise even visiting. Went back to do Union work at the new water park about 1 year ago & was surprised that the city got worse with drugs & homeless. One note should be made if even visiting Cave Junction, Selma areas: Do NOT just go trekking back in the forest. Illegal pot grows back there & you might not be receiving a warm welcome (if you come back). White City (Camp White) was/is called Tube City by Sheriffs Dept due to long time homeless camp living in concrete tubes. Crime crime crime. I now own 6 acres in Hildebrand, Oregon. Love it Anyways...video is spot on & accurate
Yeah, let's continue to bash West Medford. Honestly the "bad" pockets are relatively few and far between. If the city would stop dumping on us and allowing organizations like the Gospel Mission to be located across the street from a school, the number of bad apples would decrease significantly. But hey, most folks throughout Medford including the city council like to manifest this area as the "ghetto" of Medford. The potential here is amazing, and most given streets in West Medford could be transplanted to the railroad district in Ashland and they would fit in. There's actually worse pockets with more crime on the "East Side." It would be cool if folks would stop with the lies about the West Side, and help us realize the true potential of a historical part of town.
Not mentioned about Medford: A large part of the city has had a bedbug infestation for several years. Just try and get rid of them once in your home, it's a nightmare. You can't buy ANYTHING at a garage/yard sale and bring it home.
@@annekabrimhall1059 They eat you alive, and it's next to impossible to get rid of them. If you DO manage it, someone will eventually track them right back in.
You can blame much of SoOregon's problems on unrestricted landlord abuse of property. Landlords refuse to keep up their property in SoOregon, and WAAAAY too many rentals. Towns should fine landlords for letting their properties become dilapidated.
Easy on the pot industry guy, That’s not the problem. Just come out and say it. These shitty areas are where the meth labs are at. That’s the problem with southern Oregon. Meth labs. Did you even mention that once? What about the fentanyl epidemic?
@@joekeen60 He's just looking to make more $$$$ like all the Enablers and Politicians in ORGAN.. it's all a Scam and Racket when dealing with realtors/brokers and buying and or selling properties. They don't disclose the (whole) real truth in favor or ripping you off. it's called Manipulation and they do it so they can live their privileged lives off your Money. Funny he barely mentioned any place really nice to live here in So. Oregon. Actually most of the states politicians are from California/Washingson and have been here for decades ripping off anybody and everybody by playing both sides of the table. They're All Enablers. They Enable bad people to do bad things and get away with it while making piles of Money off You and I. Oregon was a way CLEANER Safer Better Place 30+yrs ago but somewhere at sometime they decided to cheat and lie and enable people to turn it into another California Shit hole. I hear it all the time. Be best to find people you can actually "Trust" before selling or buying here in Southern Oregon.. or anywhere for that matter.
Funny. I never hear about all these Meth labs here.. I hear more, just ppl talking shit about that shit. Never heard or seen one in 10yrs I've lived in Southern Oregon/north real north California. Pot yes. Fentanyl yes but more north state big city issues. Meth not a word. I'm sure it's around but not as much as ppl say it is. Southern Oregon is visually stunning. Coast also. North state beautiful but has lot's of liberal retards and those filthy drugs. Porland area Salem and Eugene. Places to avoid.. Like L.A., but more green beauty.
Took some guts to do this video, but it's pretty accurate. You'd want to include O'Brien in the CJ area. When I did investigations here, E. O'Brien Street was the worst road I was ever on. Zombie apocalypse. But even O'Brien has good things going for it. Ya just have to look for the best in a community. Now...if we can just pass a law enforcement levy.
Thank you! Haha, I agree. It was a fun video to make but I knew it would upset some people, which it clearly has by some of the comments, but it's important to be honest.
It probably would have, but I wanted to focus on Jackson and Josephine counties. Glendale & Wolf Creek snuck in because they are so close, but Klamath is just a bit more of a stretch.
@@BuyingSouthernOregon back in the late to early 90s there was once a town militia in Wolf Creek, they long dissolved back then but they live up there to this day there is just no sign of it after everything happened. There was once a nice gas station that sold sun good d food till they got shut down n was boarded up for god knows what till that has station burned down, I drove to that has station before it burned up in 2022
A lot of people that live in these rural areas want that life, we were sick of the city life. Is it inconvenient to have to go 30 to GP for a decent grocery store yes, and Costco is even farther away. But we like it here, in fact we love it here. Sick of the homeless people all over yes, but still better than GP or Medford. All our funds get sent to GP. And please, if you’re going to recommend places to eat there’s lots of others besides Taylor’s which in and of itself has been an eyesore to our community for two years due to their continuing construction. There’s The Replay, River Valley Restaurant, two pizza places, and Gimmies, plus others besides the mediocre Taylor’s and Carlos’.
I really do not care to live in a big city I can go visit if I want been in Denver, Boise, Portland, San Francisco, and LA and many others but prefer little towns far away and nothing to bring others there!!!
Its a shame about Gold hill .. I really liked it when we visited to pick up our emus from a farmer yet we only visited the outskirts... Thank you for sharing
The outskirts of Gold Hill are fantastic, but the town itself leaves a bit to be desired. I wouldn't hesitate at all to recommend looking in the gold hill general area. :)
@@BuyingSouthernOregon LOL, Gold Hill is historical. They just leave it as it because of that. Seems that you dont really know the history of your town m8.
This is not constructive criticism. This is damaging to those that are trying change things. These types of remarks send areas backward. The REAL reason for the decline in these areas are the system in the local governments that are failing.
I'm happy to discuss any specific point you're referring to, but I think a blanket statement that the local governments are the sole cause of the issues is just flat out wrong. For example, the City of Medford is responsible for both East and West Medford. Both very different. The Josephine County residents voted down the levys to fund the sheriff's department, not the other way around. Is there a specific system you're referring to that is failing and causing these issues?
@@BuyingSouthernOregon I don't think it's the JoCo residents that voted down the levys to fund the sheriff's department. It's voted down because it's a huge burden unfairly placed on the JoCo homeowners, not the residents. I think there's a huge problem with forcing a certain group of people to pay for a service for everyone.
@@ShimZone Not a bad point at all, but that's just the way the voting laws are. You don't have to be a homeowner to vote. I do believe that even renters are paying for the additional taxes and levies through increased rent, so it's just not as direct.
I left Oregon. I’m from the mid-west and moved back to California. Im moved from west coast 20 years ago. Was sold a lie. Beautiful place to live but the people and culture backward and why I moved back to the Bay Area. Too many racists, especially from the locals that are generational locals . I’m a realist and can accept no place is perfect. In Medford and Grants pass people are openly racist and say ignorant statements. It was the first place my 5 year old experienced racism from other kids. Many locals hate outsiders and can be very rude. Assholes aren’t just in California, as a mid-western manners matter. Smaller towns don’t always have friendly people. The cultural and educational resources just didn’t fit what was best for my family. Kids should grow up not having to defend their racial background or existence. And I’m white and my kids are mixed. My biggest mistake was not taking the time to check how the local culture would affect my children.
I'm always blown away when I read things like this. Not because I don't believe your story but because talking to other people they have a wildly different experience. My girl is black and has told me she's never had any racial issues. One of my best friends said the same thing. I even remember checking in with the head of our HR dept at work during the height of BLM to see how she was feeling. I asked her if she ever had any problems with the cops here. She just laughed at me and said last time she got pulled over going 20 over the speed limit they didn't even give her a warning. I was kinda pissed because I'm a white dude and have been pulled over 9 times and the worst thing I ever did was go 10 over the limit. 😂 It's insane how people in the same cities can have totally different experiences when it comes to something like racism.
I live on the southern Oregon coast. This is the most financially depressed area I have ever been. I have lived in Oregon my entire life. Meth is rampant. There are nearly no police. The roads are shit. I am finally going to leave the state I used to love growing up. Come visit just like everyone else you will spend little money that actually helps our awful economy. Move here, we now have the worst water in the country due to tourism and the influx of people.
I'm from Oregon, but haven't spent any time in Southern Oregon. I wouldn't recommend posting a video that will just offend a bunch of people. Every city/area has its higher crime area. Every state has areas that are prettier than others. I don't understand the point of picking on a specific area. It's just my opinion, but I'd simply point out the best areas, and then recommend that potential residents check out the crime map for themselves. And if people want specifics, do it in person while your taking a client to look at properties. After decades in business, I'm truly puzzled by this channel's strategy here ... lol
Hey great to see another great southern Oregon creator. I to am in Medford. I raised 4 great kids here and love it here. At one time I was also one of the top 5 largest builder / developers in the rogue valley. Seems like a lifetime ago. lol. 👍🏽🙂
Concerning Cave Junction and the Illinois Valley, we're ok with the "wild west" designation. When I moved here 45 years ago, the city had a police department, the Sheriffs office was fully staffed , the forest service had a full crew and forest rangers. Two local lumber mills provided family wage supporting jobs, and timber receipts that helped fund the county. Tourism never replaced the loss of jobs caused by shutting off timber sales and the resulting mill closures. Millions of timber dollars were lost that funded much of the county government including law enforcement. The running joke in our rural areas is, the only millionaires here are people who moved here with 2million. Our last sheriff ran his election with the promise that he could run the department with the funds available. Fast forward to said sheriff laying off everyone and advertising on national news that he was the only law enforcement in Josephine County. Well criminals, look who's open for business! You can blame tax payers for not voting for funding, but you would be blaming people who lost their jobs directly or indirectly with the crushing of the timber industry. Our current Sheriff Dave Daniel is out standing and has put a major dent in crime. With tax payer approved funding coming at the end of this year, we're happy campers. With JMET busting illegal grows left and right, life has improved considerably. Nothing to do here? This area is the rugged outdoors with all the inconveniences that can come from rural living. It is also an incredibly beautiful area if you put down your phone, crawl from in front of your TV and go exploring. Glendale, Wolf Creek, Williams and the Illinois Valley all share this "wild west" label, and we're ok with that.
White City is not a city. It is in the Jackson County. White City is mostly industrial area. I helped Amy's Kitchen Inc to relocate to White City from Santa Rosa CA back in 2006. Wolf Creek, Sams Valley, Glendale, Cave Junction are considered 'rural'. Since the hospital was built in Grants Pass, many California retired folks moved there as real estate i.e. house prices were relative cheap! Grants Pass has the rich who likes to live by the Rogue River and then the poor then the homeless who camps at the park. I am a commercial real estate expert as a seasoned CCIM that I always ask 'What is the economic base of that town?"
If you don’t take Williams off the list I’m never watching your channel ever ever ever again! JK. For real though I have a beef with you. Yeah there’s a lot of pot growing, it’s not a problem unless you go trespassing. It’s a half hour drive to GP but it’s a beautiful country road drive. Ace hardware and Hidden Valley market are 12 miles away in Murphy. The Apple Gate valley is 6 miles down the hill, just a short drive to all the wineries. Plaisance Ranch & Winery right here in town, grass fed beef, wine and music in the summer. Hiking trails to the top of Grayback mountain if you got the legs built for that. I can cruise my quad to the country store for a 12 pack of beer. 🍻 Country living.👍🏻 Now that I think about it, keep telling everyone how bad Williams is……we don’t want them here.😁 Wife and I love the channel, thanks.
HAHA. That's hilarious. I personally like Williams a lot for the exact reasons you mentioned. Cool little town...if that's what you're looking for. Glad to hear you're loving it! Thank you for the comment and the humor. 🤣🤣
@@larrycassidy7274 I think many small, remote towns have more of a sense of community. I live in Oakridge and have heard that from folks who live closer to Eugene or Springfield in towns like Lowell, Jasper or Dexter.
We lived in Williams for two years and got out. Rough area with all the illegal pot grown and many people that don’t care in the area mattresses and furniture just dumped along side the highway. Many unsafe drivers, do to no police presence in the area. No shopping in town. Only a high priced tiny grocery store. Wi fi reception is terrible in the area. With few options. Roads are not maintained well. Graffiti on the bridges. It’s depressing to live there.
I was told to be careful about getting off the road going to Oregon caves. Lots of pot farms there. My grandparents lived in kerby. To go to the doctor you'd have to go to Grant's pass or Medford. There's a lot of poison oak in that area and snakes.
I was attracted to Southern Oregon over 30 years ago by Roy Masters, and was absolutely thrilled to live there for a good 25 years. But city management and state socialism made towns like Grants Pass rapidly declining. The city fathers have FAILED Grants Pass. Increasing crime and homelessness, drug friendly. I really want to move out of G.P.
Didn't have high expectations for this video, but found myself consistently agreeing with your reasonings. Good informative video! (Currently live in Ruch, have lived in; East Medford, West Medford, Central Point, White City) The Pot farms are everywhere, legal or not, but how do you differentiate🤷
I live in West Medford. I absolutely love it here. There are many secrets to surviving here. It’s not for everyone. Just because people look poor doesn’t mean they’re dangerous. Watch out for the druggies tho. lol. If you want to live in West Medford free of problems then don’t own anything expensive. On the flip side we have live music often, as there’s a Mariachi band playing somewhere nearby every weekend of the nice weather.
Just keep bad mouthing, SO. It keeps retired Californians like me out. I think most people here are happy , caring, and poor because this area has had a rough history.The pot and timber industries are both controlled by the government, so I'm not surprise to see problems and impovished workers. The real estate financial complex would love to gentrify all of SO to make higher commissions. I get it looking out for number one is the 'merican motto. Bad mouthing our towns to get a cop tax passed forces the spiral downward and hurts the least the most. Balancing resources with needs is the solution. Business, education, courts, banking and labor have got to work together to raise the worth of everybody and give them pride in a place they can own and keep.
Have lived in Medford since 2009 on the East side and agree with you're depiction of the area. On the negative side, I would add that the poorly located airport / planes landing + flying overhead greatly affect the livability of some sections of Medford. On the positive side - traffic (while getting heavier) is still pretty darn good / easy to get to all parts of Southern Oregon.
I expected CJ to be on the list, but not number one. I live here and can tell you it wasn't always like this. The main problems are meth, alcohol and homelessness. There are incredibly beautiful swimming holes, camping and gold mining galore. Tourists fall in love with the "Eight Dollar" area. There's a Tiger Conservation park, the Caves Monument and Selma's swinging bridge canyon is spectacular. Our section of the Illinois River is the Chinook salmon spawning beds every October. This town had it all . . . so what went wrong? Ya not enough police.
There wouldn't be so many homeless people if we had affordable housing. I'm working and living out of my car and I can tell you it's easier to just not work if you're homeless. If you are making it on a single income from regular job, then I envy you and applaud you because you had to sacrifice something important to you such as having car/insurance, pet, groceries, recreation, etc, etc.
I tried to stay focused on Jackson & Josephine counties only, but Glendale is so close I threw it into the mix. If i expanded east, Klamath Falls would have definitely been on the list.
I lived in Ashland for 17 years, and worked in downtown Medford during my last 10 years in Oregon until I got fired for not complying to medical tyranny. Oregon is a very beautiful state (I miss my trips to Brookings) but the politics sucks and blows!
Was that during Covid? I know a lot of people didn't want to comply with the requirements of the hospitals and other businesses, ultimately losing their jobs.
As a retired health care provider, Covid was not crap. It’s a new heavily mutating virus whose job is to find hosts to live in. It doesn’t care about your politics, your ignorance, your rights, what church you attend, its job is to survive, period. Don’t talk to me about your bullshit about your medical rights, not under a pandemic. Where I worked before I retired out it was mandatory for me to get a flu shot every year, to be evaluated for tb every year, to get hepatitis B and C shots at ten year intervals, And wear a mask under Covid. That was to,protect me and patients from getting sick. Those people who worked in health care and didn’t comply, should not have been in health care to begin with and I’m happy they lost their jobs for not doing what the basics of medicine requires to protect patients and staff. I complied with all of that because I cared about my patients and their welfare as well as my own. What I have a problem with is the stupidity of people who know nothing about virus assuming they won’t get it. My colleagues had the most problems helping people who said they couldn’t have covid because it was a hoax, or refused to take the jab because they would die. How ignorant can anyone be. My colleagues got tired of all the grief they got while trying to save lives and some retired out or became roving nurses and docs. The reality is Americans really don’t care about our people, are selfish and believe everything the right wing misinformation media tells them. They have grown increasingly anti science and anti medical that is until you need medical help to survive and then you want medicine to save your behind. We are the only developed country without universal health care for all its citizens because that’s socialism. No, it’s called taking of your people. We largely don’t care.
Also grew up in the Rouge valley. Pre 2000 is wasn't to bad. After 2005 it started to get pretty bad. Investors have ruined it. Out of staters drove up real estate prices which drove people to rent. Not enough high paying jobs exist here. Heavy handed policing, and homeless everywhere. Everyone knows or has worked with an illegal. Canibus growing everywhere, and theres no money in it anymore. Illegal chinese and cartel grows in the hills. No real industry for good paying jobs anymore. Southern oregon has lost its identity. The guy doing this video is just looking to sell real estate to out of staters. Hes part of the problem in the destruction of livability in southern Oregon. ( A parasite). Visited my mother last yr in Phoenix, and i didnt recognize the greater medford area. I thought i was in thr san Francisco bay area. Everyone i tallked to wasnt from here. Most of them were ex Californians. We moved away 8 yrs ago, and dont miss what ot has become. See the beauty of the outdoors, but never move there. Dont even gete started about sam's valley. Check the comment about Californians.
My first 30 years were in Grants Pass/Southern Oregon and the next 30 in the Seattle area, then became a global guy. I count my blessings to have grown up in Southern Oregon, but when I return now to visit family I'm a bit disappointed. There's incredible natural beauty, but as you mentioned local support for basic municipal services has clearly reduced safety and general quality of life for most. That said, most anywhere you choose to live has benefits and drawbacks. The subjective question we all need to ask is, "Are the positive attributes so good that I can tolerate the downsides?"
Yep. The locals call Medford, Methford. It’s gotten bad over the years, but wherever you have meth and opioid use, you’re going to have crime. Grants pass had one of the highest levels of opioid overdoses per capita in the country. And, you don’t get addicts to change by co-signing their addiction as that recent law did. Get a dui or possession charge, it should be jail or rehab. Get busted again, lose your drivers license, spend a longer time in rehab or jail. Worked well in Santa Clara county Ca where I was a MH therapist for years.
The worst parts about Southern Oregon, are the gas prices, and that cost-of-living got inflated huge by the green rush, all the people coming up here to grow weed
The hippies who migrated into the area to grow pot and live in their vans are inflating the cost of living? 🤔 Hmmm not sure if that one adds up, but I'm totally open to any verifiable data you have that supports your theory...
Seems to me, low taxes is a benefit. A lot of people are suffering under the heavy hand of government these days. And people getting concealed carry licenses - what is wrong with that? I like that. Anyway, if you love cops so much, then YOU should fund them. Leave the rest of us alone. Some of us are not so thrilled at some of the shady things cops do, such as civil asset forfeiture. And guess what, there is car theft in Portland too. "If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." ~~ Jeff Cooper
I don't disagree with you at all. I never said I have a problem with concealed carry, in fact I have my license. In the video, I'm just explaining the situation to viewers so they can decide if it's an area they want to live or not. Thanks for watching.
Courier driver here… have delivered this area for over thirty years and I cannot agree more ! Actually I laughed about some of this content Spot on My mother still lives in white city where a murder happened just 4 houses away She won’t move for whatever… M childhood wasn’t terrible only because of the fact that my father was a sheriff and there was often a police vehicle out front
Southern Oregon isnt as bad as many people paint it to be. Its not great, I wouldnt reccomend people moving here, but thats mainly because finding housing is extremely difficult, and many of the locals are already struggling with a sparse job market and overpriced homes. We have homeless people and tweakers, but name one place in this country that doesn't. And id like to say, while Cave junction has always had issues, I'd rather walk alone at night in cave junction than grants pass. 🤷♀️
I'm curious what part you think is misleading? I said it's off the beaten path, which it is. I said it's a town that was once in better shape than it is today, which is true. I'm not sure what I said that was misleading. I completely understand if you love the town, and I'm sure there are a lot of people who do, but that doesn't mean what I said is misleading.
Our grandparents had a ranch in WILLIAMS Oregon which is a beautiful area. They sponsor balloon rides in the spring. I’m not sure why you would say it’s bad? Has something changed? There weren’t any problems with Williams in the past. They had a country store and a nice swimming hole, which has been closed up recently. Not sure why. White city is terrible. Locals call it $hitty city. They don’t have property taxes there so many folks appreciate that. If you want THE TRUTH- Liberal policies are ruining Southern Oregon. During the plandemic, homelessness and drug use soared!!! We have lived in Southern Oregon since 2002. Rent in the area is typical and unaffordable. How long will liberal politicians control Southern Oregon? We are considering selling our properties here and moving, which is very sad because Southern Oregon has been a beautiful place but thanks to liberal policies such as legalization of drugs, have absolutely ruined our communities. Shame on you liberals. Disgusting politics!!!
Thankfully measure 110 is being rolled back and drug possession will be a misdemeanor again that is punishable with 6 months of jail or the option to get treatment. I'm optimistic that will have a big impact on the drug and homeless issues across the state.
Born and raised in oregon. Hes telling the truth. But it isnt cheap and local income does not match the median rent. Moving to oregon may be out of reach because of rising prices on homes and insurance from fire risk. This area is quickly becoming too expensive to live in for the young people taking care of the retirement community here. If you have teenagers or kids, consider the probability that they will not be able to move out on their own income out here. Being honest, even if you are thinking its cheaper, it isnt, the cost of living is higher than employers are willing to pay.
Klamath Falls. The amount of drugs and murders for such a smaller place is crazy! But I guess the fact that Air Force one can land here makes up for that. Want a good story? There was a Chinese restaurant that was always packed. I can still hear their commercial. “Sonny say, eat more Chinese foo”. We had a sheriff, and a few others, that shook one too many dirty hands and got caught one day. By the next day, the Chinese restaurant was closed. Sonny and family gone from town overnight. Why? Oh just some sex slaves/trade underneath the restaurant. There’s bikers in this town that still talk about the good ole boy about doing lines off the hood of his gov rig and even have pictures to prove it. But now, he’s gone and the homeless population that was never a thing here has started moving their camps to every corner. The amount of fentanyl is off the charts and there’s still lots of shootings. Moved from town last year. I’m more mountain, quiet and stars now. Only go to town once a week/twice tops. Cut friends off because they all started doing ..things that I won’t and would never have around my family. It was a good trade in the long run.
@@BuyingSouthernOregon yah. Waaay different. We’ve got the people in what I’d call living in the backwoods out on Bly Mountain. The higher up you go, the more you start hearing dueling banjo’s! Know what I mean. Don’t get me going on Chi Town. (Chiloquin). Their backwoods have native Indians. The ones on Bly Mountain are hillbilly. I’d much rather deal with white trash. I could probably barter my catalytic converter for safe passage through. Because over in Chi would probably require my scalp! J/k. Ish.
Graduated from Klamath Union High School in 1974. At that time when a person graduated they had a choice, go to work at Weyerhauser or leave for greener pastures. I couldn't picture myself working in a mill so I left for greener pastures.
The sad thing is, that Sheriff used to have his son sell meth out of the sheriff's house.. I believe him and his family are still trying to "Yellowstone meets Beaking Bad" the area. The murders of young boys in the area from 2010 through current is appalling. Not to mention kidnappings/attempted kidnappings and sexual assaults.. At least the predators disappear when law enforcement can't or won't help. Drugs, "gangs," and corruption are the driving force behind the darkness in Klamath Falls. It's expanding, and I hope the good starts outweighing the bad. It's possible to live here and avoid drug, etc. drama. You just can't expect to make friends or trust too many people. I'd say roughly 1 of 10 people casually use hard drugs, and 1 of 20 people are probably too sketchy to even converse with.
I currently live in have lived in Grants Pass since 1992 and while this used to be a really nice place to live the homeless and drugs are absolutely out of control. They're overrunning the parks and the streets there is paraphernalia and garbage all over. You think people that live down by the river would be cleaner .
It's a real problem in so many places. We find and clean up abandoned homeless encampments near the Willamette here in Oakridge. Piles and piles of clothing, boxes, even jars of urine (apparently they drink it for any residual drugs that might be present.) It's a constant problem in Eugene in parks and along the Willamette River. There's a non-profit out of Fall Creek that keeps busy just dismantling and hauling away abandoned trailers, cars and RVs. And yet we blame city administrations. Their hands are tied, we don't have enough housing for people who can afford it, let alone find roofs for folks who don't want to live by any regulations because they're ruled by alcohol, drugs and mental illness. Eugene spent $1M cleaning up Jefferson Park after clearing out all the homeless who had taken it over, and yet despite 'no camping' signs being posted, they constantly have to shoo homeless away. IDK what the answer is, since the rest of us want to live in safe, clean environments.
So, I’m wondering why one would use the city scape of an oregon town that lies in the middle of the willamette valley (Eugene) as the thumbnail to describe the worst parts of “southern” oregon. The background pic is clearly that of Eugene (facing south from most likely the top of skinners butte) but this video talks about areas around Medford which is 2.5-3 hours south of Eugene.
If you live in rural SO, and you think law enforcement is here to protect you? Yes, you might be disappointed. If you have a fenced and gated property posted "No Trespassing", leave outdoor lights on all night, keep a 140 pound pit bull, and answer the door after dark with a handgun? Life will fine for you. The bad guys somehow figure out who will take care of themselves, and they leave you alone. In nearly 40 years here I've not had any crime problems.
I live in rural Southern Oregon, don't have a fenced or gated property, don't have a "no tresspassing" sign, no 140lb Pitbull either...and I've never had an issue or even felt unsafe. I think some people are going to be paranoid and feel unsafe no matter where they are.
@@BuyingSouthernOregon Look, you misunderstand. I'm not paranoid or feeling unsafe, personally. I'm content and happy where I'm at. Plan to live here where I'm at the rest of my days. I'm retired now. For 40 years I was a self-employed tradesman, offering my services to folks like maybe you sell houses to. I had a shop full of expensive tools and also some to take along and do onsite work with. (I still have all my tools, am just not publicly running a business now..) People came to my home and shop out in the country looking for me and my services, even sometimes when I wasn't there. Never once was I a victim of crime. You wanna know why? Even though I was a single guy most of that time I always had other people living there too. Housemates, caretaker, tenants, friends visiting. We might all come and go, but we would never all be gone at the same time. Simple. It is kind of what you need to do to be secure out in the country. A group of people all watching each other's backs. All the yard lights and stuff? That's just for the night creepers. They see all that stuff and they go elsewhere. When the Sherriff is an hour away (and won't come at all, unless for something life-threatening?) You have to take care of yourself.
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I’m looking at land in Selma and wolf creek. Maybe you can help me find something affordable in better areas
@@annekabrimhall1059 Not unless you don't mind dilapidated houses full of black mold, leaky roof and broken pluming.
Did he say southern Oregon (Medford) has affordable living?? I'd like to know where, because I work full-time and can't afford the average apartment on a single income.
The biggest problem with Southern Oregon is that its full of California.
I live in Glendale and have for 15 years it has its flaws but the town is full of good people and families. I’ve lived in other parts of the country but I love Oregon. And Glendale is surrounded by beautiful mountains.
I think the purpose of this video is to get a levy passed. People are afraid to fund police because some of them are scary.
I used to work at Superior Lumber and live right there in Glendale
Everywhere has bad parts lol. I was born and raised here. It's not that bad! But please keep making videos like this, it keeps people from moving here.
I wish it would have stopped people from moving here, but it hasn't, and they continue to move here. Not one of my neighbors is from Southern Oregon.
All of my neighbors are born and raised here.
Medford is a bit garbage. I’m in Klamath and HATE that Medford is the next biggest town. Anything south of Oakridge and Bend is pretty bad in spots.
The problem with Cave Junction is more meth than weed.
But the weed acts as a gateway drug for the youth, trust me I'd know.
And not much to entertain people. I had family and have some in Obrien. NO jobs too hurts. I hate that the river is mostly dried up. I had a great childhood with family there.
Surprised to see Gold Hill and Williams, Grants Pass has a huge homeless problem and Klamath Falls should be on the List
For real, I would pretty much live any of the places on the list rather than Grants Pass...it's not just the problems it has, it's that it doesn't really have much going for it that's good. I live in West Medford and it's a little rough around the edges but it's not bad.
Well, this is a realtor, after all. He has no incentive to mention the 2/3 of Southern Oregon that is East of the Cascade Range. All the places he says are horrible, that are actually (mostly) are beautiful places, but this REALTOR doesn't have any listings in.....
Years ago I lived in all the mentioned towns /cities. Loved it. Now I live in Bend and love it.
Yeah. Shout out from Klamath Falls. We know we suck. It’s great because you’re close to nature, but there’s not much else to do here. Not a lot of good restaurants. Not a lot for kids to do in the winter. We are 1 1/2-2 hours from any city with a Panda Express. Lol Just my two cents.
Klamath resident. Can confirm. This town is the fucking worst.
I grew up in Rogue River and only places I would not live/visit include: west part of Medford (aka South Medford High area) by Blackbird store off West Main St. is HORRIBLE... has been since the 90's. White City used to be sketchy and trailer park city, but is starting to clean up because east Medford is so expensive. Gold Hill is just poor, but still fun. Cave Junction is just depressing and stuck in the 80s, and not in a good way. Agreed, Cave Junction/Illinois Valley has always been "Pot Central". Surprised you didn't mention anything about Klamath Falls and the meth issue out there.
I thought south Medford high was off Garfield in South Medford. But yah anything nothing north of Stewart to Jackson Street on the North along Columbus is the shits for sure!🤢
lol wtf is fun about Gold Hill? The mystery house that’s a dilapidated shack on the side of a hill lol? Oh and their one Mexican food spot.
Haha great that you mention KlaMETH. I’m here currently. This place is 1950s racism mixed with burnt out meth heads. It sucks here
@@joetron333 it's long gone now there's two places that have taken it's place 💀
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People can get their knickers in a twist, but your assessment is spot on. What these naysayers aren't taking into consideration is you're in real estate. Most agents don't warn people about this kind of thing. I've lived in Southern Oregon since 1976. West Medford and White City are crime hubs. Williams and Wolf Creek and a few other places are chock full of hippies and pot
farms. Sam's Valley is dry and has one store. There are beautiful places here but there's places i wouldn't buy property.
Was born in grants passed, lived in LA since i was a few mths old. Moved back to GP a few years ago. GP and medford are sooo much safer than LA, even on medfords worst day it doesnt even compare to the bs youre regularly dealing with in socal.
Not to mention that you are able to open carry in Oregon. That’s why I moved out of communist California.
@@bcwrestlerhwt exactly, so much safer for that very reason. It's always safer wherever there are relaxed gun laws.
I've lived in the Rogue Valley for 37 years. I am shellshocked still, from the recent changes that changed the entire real estate landscape.
Funny. Go live in Detroit or Chicago, or Oakland California - then come tell me how bad S. Oregon is!
Yea i been to Oakland i can say its worse than medford… but to be fair hes talking about southern Oregon… not Illinois Michigan or cali lol if he was talking in general i believe that Portland would be discussed
Stop getting your knickers in a twist... Listen to what he says at the end. It is a beautiful state. There's a lot of wonderful things about it, however, everything he said is true. Good grief! Stop letting your feelings and your emotions override common sense.
@@PSDGarageOaklands a fucking shithole dude
He’s talking about bad places in southern Oregon. Those spots you listed are all in different states. Calm down.
Truth, but every downturn starts somewhere
I lived in the Cave Junction area for over 2 years and while it’s technically a problem filled area, I actually loved living there. I moved because of lack of opportunity and everything was moving in the wrong direction but there’s an intangible quality to it and I have a nostalgia that I haven’t felt for anywhere else.
Lots of natural beauty out there and plenty of fun things to do. It's actually growing quite a bit too, so hopefully it's on the right track! 👍
I watched an inter dimensional heaven come down to earth in cave junction.
Why is anybody going to use a realtor that gets on the internet and trashes the area they're going to sell a house in
My family lived on a small farm in Glendale for 10 Yrs. All was well until the Oregon Government got into the pot business. Both farms around me were sold to pot growers, who were ex-falons from California. I called he sheriff more then seven times regarding crimes occurring, yet they never responded. The growers ran me off the road once, and shot out the rear window of my truck once, yet no law enforcement ever responded. We sold the farm, to a drug dealer, for half the recorded value. My wife was raised in Cave Junction. It was a drug city way back in the 60's. In one year there were 7 unsolved murders, one being a relative. Your lecture was spot on, thank you.
Felons are not allowed to own cannabis farms or shops.
You’re absolutely correct about Selma and CJ. That place is the real Dodge City of SO. 199 is also one of the deadliest highways in the state. It’s crazy out there. I definitely have some stories about that area.
Even when CJ did have LE , the rural layout and geography of CJ is impossible to cover like a city. If you wish to live rurally, you need a skillset to take care of yourself. Thank you for this as we don't need people here that would be a liability.
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I like living on the west side of medford, off king between Stewart and 14th...all my neighbors are full time workers, most own their homes, never had serious or even petty crime, always see cops cruising the streets. My household income is around 150k, and when i bought my house 10 years , was way cheap. Compared to now dont know how people can afford houses here or on the Eastside
How on earth did you miss Klamath Falls? We have so little going for us over here.
seems he was talking south western .. you have a point
My thoughts exactly
Interesting list. I live in Newport, Oregon. I occasionally visit southern Oregon, but most of the visits are related to visiting Crater Lake.
Generational meth abuse has made some of these areas unlivable. Too many people with mental problems to deal with because of the decades of meth abuse.
Finally someone said it because unless things totally changed I had a terrible experience in southern Oregon because of the insane amount of meth heads and people on psychedelic drugs like acid and mushrooms. Everyone also smokes pot and is an alcoholic so I would not recommend raising kids here especially in Medford OR Ashland. Then again I was there 25 years ago so I'm not sure how much worse it has gotten.
I work in the medical field and you are spot on! We are into 3rd generation addicts at least. Developmentally delayed, mental problems, absence of life skills to name a few. Spot on @SRSOSChannel2!
@@Dman3827 Ashland is definitely better than the CJ area
A very accurate list. 82 grad from Meddie. Left & now despise even visiting. Went back to do Union work at the new water park about 1 year ago & was surprised that the city got worse with drugs & homeless. One note should be made if even visiting Cave Junction, Selma areas: Do NOT just go trekking back in the forest. Illegal pot grows back there & you might not be receiving a warm welcome (if you come back). White City (Camp White) was/is called Tube City by Sheriffs Dept due to long time homeless camp living in concrete tubes. Crime crime crime. I now own 6 acres in Hildebrand, Oregon. Love it
Anyways...video is spot on & accurate
I grew up in gold hill, and was just there yesterday, didn't see any homeless there. I think it's great if you like small town
Yeah, let's continue to bash West Medford. Honestly the "bad" pockets are relatively few and far between. If the city would stop dumping on us and allowing organizations like the Gospel Mission to be located across the street from a school, the number of bad apples would decrease significantly. But hey, most folks throughout Medford including the city council like to manifest this area as the "ghetto" of Medford. The potential here is amazing, and most given streets in West Medford could be transplanted to the railroad district in Ashland and they would fit in. There's actually worse pockets with more crime on the "East Side." It would be cool if folks would stop with the lies about the West Side, and help us realize the true potential of a historical part of town.
I currently live in Williams, oregon and I love living out here❤️
True we don’t have much to do but it’s beautiful✌️❤️💯
You're over it now kind of though, aren't yah?
Graduated 1981 in medford and would never live there again . Beautiful ares but is so run down. Sad
Not mentioned about Medford: A large part of the city has had a bedbug infestation for several years. Just try and get rid of them once in your home, it's a nightmare. You can't buy ANYTHING at a garage/yard sale and bring it home.
I've never heard about that. Crazy
Thanks for the warning! I hate bed bugs
@@annekabrimhall1059 They eat you alive, and it's next to impossible to get rid of them. If you DO manage it, someone will eventually track them right back in.
Never had that problem and I was born here. Maybe don't buy from garage sales.
@@carlieschneider2992 That was my advice, but it bears repeating.
You can blame much of SoOregon's problems on unrestricted landlord abuse of property. Landlords refuse to keep up their property in SoOregon, and WAAAAY too many rentals. Towns should fine landlords for letting their properties become dilapidated.
What a breath of fresh air... a realtor that tells it like it is. THANK YOU!
Thank you, your videos are so helpful!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for your list Brian .I'll be sure to avoid those eye sores of southern Oregon!
Happy to help!
Easy on the pot industry guy, That’s not the problem. Just come out and say it. These shitty areas are where the meth labs are at. That’s the problem with southern Oregon. Meth labs. Did you even mention that once? What about the fentanyl epidemic?
I can't find any data that shows meth labs are a problem. If you know of some, please share.
@@joekeen60 He's just looking to make more $$$$ like all the Enablers and Politicians in ORGAN.. it's all a Scam and Racket when dealing with realtors/brokers and buying and or selling properties. They don't disclose the (whole) real truth in favor or ripping you off. it's called Manipulation and they do it so they can live their privileged lives off your Money. Funny he barely mentioned any place really nice to live here in So. Oregon. Actually most of the states politicians are from California/Washingson and have been here for decades ripping off anybody and everybody by playing both sides of the table. They're All Enablers. They Enable bad people to do bad things and get away with it while making piles of Money off You and I. Oregon was a way CLEANER Safer Better Place 30+yrs ago but somewhere at sometime they decided to cheat and lie and enable people to turn it into another California Shit hole. I hear it all the time. Be best to find people you can actually "Trust" before selling or buying here in Southern Oregon.. or anywhere for that matter.
They are.
Funny. I never hear about all these Meth labs here.. I hear more, just ppl talking shit about that shit. Never heard or seen one in 10yrs I've lived in Southern Oregon/north real north California. Pot yes. Fentanyl yes but more north state big city issues. Meth not a word. I'm sure it's around but not as much as ppl say it is. Southern Oregon is visually stunning. Coast also. North state beautiful but has lot's of liberal retards and those filthy drugs. Porland area Salem and Eugene. Places to avoid.. Like L.A., but more green beauty.
Took some guts to do this video, but it's pretty accurate. You'd want to include O'Brien in the CJ area. When I did investigations here, E. O'Brien Street was the worst road I was ever on. Zombie apocalypse. But even O'Brien has good things going for it. Ya just have to look for the best in a community.
Now...if we can just pass a law enforcement levy.
Thank you! Haha, I agree. It was a fun video to make but I knew it would upset some people, which it clearly has by some of the comments, but it's important to be honest.
What? K Falls didn't make the list?
It probably would have, but I wanted to focus on Jackson and Josephine counties. Glendale & Wolf Creek snuck in because they are so close, but Klamath is just a bit more of a stretch.
@@BuyingSouthernOregon back in the late to early 90s there was once a town militia in Wolf Creek, they long dissolved back then but they live up there to this day there is just no sign of it after everything happened. There was once a nice gas station that sold sun good d food till they got shut down n was boarded up for god knows what till that has station burned down, I drove to that has station before it burned up in 2022
Working for ODF I work in all these areas.you’re spot on,the things my eyes will never unsee!
A lot of people that live in these rural areas want that life, we were sick of the city life. Is it inconvenient to have to go 30 to GP for a decent grocery store yes, and Costco is even farther away. But we like it here, in fact we love it here. Sick of the homeless people all over yes, but still better than GP or Medford. All our funds get sent to GP. And please, if you’re going to recommend places to eat there’s lots of others besides Taylor’s which in and of itself has been an eyesore to our community for two years due to their continuing construction. There’s The Replay, River Valley Restaurant, two pizza places, and Gimmies, plus others besides the mediocre Taylor’s and Carlos’.
I really do not care to live in a big city I can go visit if I want been in Denver, Boise, Portland, San Francisco, and LA and many others but prefer little towns far away and nothing to bring others there!!!
Its a shame about Gold hill .. I really liked it when we visited to pick up our emus from a farmer yet we only visited the outskirts... Thank you for sharing
The outskirts of Gold Hill are fantastic, but the town itself leaves a bit to be desired. I wouldn't hesitate at all to recommend looking in the gold hill general area. :)
@@BuyingSouthernOregon LOL, Gold Hill is historical. They just leave it as it because of that. Seems that you dont really know the history of your town m8.
Thank you for this wonderful, informative video. Good job!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 👍
This is not constructive criticism. This is damaging to those that are trying change things. These types of remarks send areas backward.
The REAL reason for the decline in these areas are the system in the local governments that are failing.
I'm happy to discuss any specific point you're referring to, but I think a blanket statement that the local governments are the sole cause of the issues is just flat out wrong. For example, the City of Medford is responsible for both East and West Medford. Both very different. The Josephine County residents voted down the levys to fund the sheriff's department, not the other way around. Is there a specific system you're referring to that is failing and causing these issues?
@@BuyingSouthernOregon I don't think it's the JoCo residents that voted down the levys to fund the sheriff's department. It's voted down because it's a huge burden unfairly placed on the JoCo homeowners, not the residents. I think there's a huge problem with forcing a certain group of people to pay for a service for everyone.
@@ShimZone Not a bad point at all, but that's just the way the voting laws are. You don't have to be a homeowner to vote. I do believe that even renters are paying for the additional taxes and levies through increased rent, so it's just not as direct.
I left Oregon. I’m from the mid-west and moved back to California. Im moved from west coast 20 years ago. Was sold a lie. Beautiful place to live but the people and culture backward and why I moved back to the Bay Area. Too many racists, especially from the locals that are generational locals . I’m a realist and can accept no place is perfect. In Medford and Grants pass people are openly racist and say ignorant statements. It was the first place my 5 year old experienced racism from other kids. Many locals hate outsiders and can be very rude. Assholes aren’t just in California, as a mid-western manners matter. Smaller towns don’t always have friendly people. The cultural and educational resources just didn’t fit what was best for my family. Kids should grow up not having to defend their racial background or existence. And I’m white and my kids are mixed. My biggest mistake was not taking the time to check how the local culture would affect my children.
I'm always blown away when I read things like this. Not because I don't believe your story but because talking to other people they have a wildly different experience. My girl is black and has told me she's never had any racial issues. One of my best friends said the same thing. I even remember checking in with the head of our HR dept at work during the height of BLM to see how she was feeling. I asked her if she ever had any problems with the cops here. She just laughed at me and said last time she got pulled over going 20 over the speed limit they didn't even give her a warning. I was kinda pissed because I'm a white dude and have been pulled over 9 times and the worst thing I ever did was go 10 over the limit. 😂
It's insane how people in the same cities can have totally different experiences when it comes to something like racism.
I live on the southern Oregon coast. This is the most financially depressed area I have ever been. I have lived in Oregon my entire life. Meth is rampant. There are nearly no police. The roads are shit. I am finally going to leave the state I used to love growing up. Come visit just like everyone else you will spend little money that actually helps our awful economy. Move here, we now have the worst water in the country due to tourism and the influx of people.
I’m good on ever living in klamath Falls! I’d live in Medford but never Klamath Falls.😂
Used to live there, we called it Methford. Huge meth problem
Same with KlaMETH Falls lol
Your video saved me A LOT of gas and time exploring. Thanks!
I'm fom washington state I never saw a roach or a bedbug until I moved to las vegas😢
I'm from southern Oregon.... Medford... And I am right there with ya!! Never saw a bed bug or roach til I moved to Vegas!
I'm from Oregon, but haven't spent any time in Southern Oregon. I wouldn't recommend posting a video that will just offend a bunch of people. Every city/area has its higher crime area. Every state has areas that are prettier than others. I don't understand the point of picking on a specific area. It's just my opinion, but I'd simply point out the best areas, and then recommend that potential residents check out the crime map for themselves. And if people want specifics, do it in person while your taking a client to look at properties. After decades in business, I'm truly puzzled by this channel's strategy here ... lol
Nice Job Brian!!!
another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey great to see another great southern Oregon creator. I to am in Medford. I raised 4 great kids here and love it here. At one time I was also one of the top 5 largest builder / developers in the rogue valley. Seems like a lifetime ago. lol. 👍🏽🙂
Concerning Cave Junction and the Illinois Valley, we're ok with the "wild west" designation. When I moved here 45 years ago, the city had a police department, the Sheriffs office was fully staffed , the forest service had a full crew and forest rangers. Two local lumber mills provided family wage supporting jobs, and timber receipts that helped fund the county. Tourism never replaced the loss of jobs caused by shutting off timber sales and the resulting mill closures. Millions of timber dollars were lost that funded much of the county government including law enforcement. The running joke in our rural areas is, the only millionaires here are people who moved here with 2million. Our last sheriff ran his election with the promise that he could run the department with the funds available. Fast forward to said sheriff laying off everyone and advertising on national news that he was the only law enforcement in Josephine County. Well criminals, look who's open for business! You can blame tax payers for not voting for funding, but you would be blaming people who lost their jobs directly or indirectly with the crushing of the timber industry. Our current Sheriff Dave Daniel is out standing and has put a major dent in crime. With tax payer approved funding coming at the end of this year, we're happy campers. With JMET busting illegal grows left and right, life has improved considerably. Nothing to do here? This area is the rugged outdoors with all the inconveniences that can come from rural living. It is also an incredibly beautiful area if you put down your phone, crawl from in front of your TV and go exploring. Glendale, Wolf Creek, Williams and the Illinois Valley all share this "wild west" label, and we're ok with that.
White City is not a city. It is in the Jackson County. White City is mostly industrial area. I helped Amy's Kitchen Inc to relocate to White City from Santa Rosa CA back in 2006. Wolf Creek, Sams Valley, Glendale, Cave Junction are considered 'rural'. Since the hospital was built in Grants Pass, many California retired folks moved there as real estate i.e. house prices were relative cheap! Grants Pass has the rich who likes to live by the Rogue River and then the poor then the homeless who camps at the park. I am a commercial real estate expert as a seasoned CCIM that I always ask 'What is the economic base of that town?"
I'm in Klamath falls right now but I'm going to hitchhike to Medford later today and probably walk from there to Ashland
If you don’t take Williams off the list I’m never watching your channel ever ever ever again! JK. For real though I have a beef with you. Yeah there’s a lot of pot growing, it’s not a problem unless you go trespassing. It’s a half hour drive to GP but it’s a beautiful country road drive. Ace hardware and Hidden Valley market are 12 miles away in Murphy. The Apple Gate valley is 6 miles down the hill, just a short drive to all the wineries. Plaisance Ranch & Winery right here in town, grass fed beef, wine and music in the summer. Hiking trails to the top of Grayback mountain if you got the legs built for that. I can cruise my quad to the country store for a 12 pack of beer. 🍻 Country living.👍🏻
Now that I think about it, keep telling everyone how bad Williams is……we don’t want them here.😁
Wife and I love the channel, thanks.
HAHA. That's hilarious. I personally like Williams a lot for the exact reasons you mentioned. Cool little town...if that's what you're looking for. Glad to hear you're loving it! Thank you for the comment and the humor. 🤣🤣
@@BuyingSouthernOregon It's not a town, it's a community.
@@larrycassidy7274 I think many small, remote towns have more of a sense of community. I live in Oakridge and have heard that from folks who live closer to Eugene or Springfield in towns like Lowell, Jasper or Dexter.
Ya you need to move back to California
We lived in Williams for two years and got out. Rough area with all the illegal pot grown and many people that don’t care in the area mattresses and furniture just dumped along side the highway. Many unsafe drivers, do to no police presence in the area. No shopping in town. Only a high priced tiny grocery store. Wi fi reception is terrible in the area. With few options. Roads are not maintained well. Graffiti on the bridges. It’s depressing to live there.
Yeah southern Oregon really sucks , probably best to stay where you are or move to California , don't move here , it really blows !
I was told to be careful about getting off the road going to Oregon caves. Lots of pot farms there.
My grandparents lived in kerby. To go to the doctor you'd have to go to Grant's pass or Medford.
There's a lot of poison oak in that area and snakes.
Ur soooo right
So important to knkw what sections tourists need to avoid
Being Raped Robbed Stabbed or Murdered.
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This was a great video.
Thank you for speaking the truth.
glad grants pass was not on your list. all city have an area that has problems, but grants pass is not bad.
I agree!
I love my gp. Will nvr leave. That said in the last yr..oh boy the homeless/drug situation has gotten nuts. And I'm from the sf bay area.
I was attracted to Southern Oregon over 30 years ago by Roy Masters, and was absolutely thrilled to live there for a good 25 years. But city management and state socialism made towns like Grants Pass rapidly declining. The city fathers have FAILED Grants Pass. Increasing crime and homelessness, drug friendly. I really want to move out of G.P.
just like roseburg
Ashland is the best non-coastal town in Southern Oregon.
It was until they became paranoid covid nazis.
Didn't have high expectations for this video, but found myself consistently agreeing with your reasonings. Good informative video! (Currently live in Ruch, have lived in; East Medford, West Medford, Central Point, White City) The Pot farms are everywhere, legal or not, but how do you differentiate🤷
I live in West Medford. I absolutely love it here. There are many secrets to surviving here. It’s not for everyone. Just because people look poor doesn’t mean they’re dangerous. Watch out for the druggies tho. lol. If you want to live in West Medford free of problems then don’t own anything expensive. On the flip side we have live music often, as there’s a Mariachi band playing somewhere nearby every weekend of the nice weather.
Just keep bad mouthing, SO. It keeps retired Californians like me out. I think most people here are happy , caring, and poor because this area has had a rough history.The pot and timber industries are both controlled by the government, so I'm not surprise to see problems and impovished workers. The real estate financial complex would love to gentrify all of SO to make higher commissions. I get it looking out for number one is the 'merican motto. Bad mouthing our towns to get a cop tax passed forces the spiral downward and hurts the least the most. Balancing resources with needs is the solution. Business, education, courts, banking and labor have got to work together to raise the worth of everybody and give them pride in a place they can own and keep.
War on poverty pushing the poor out and California transplants taking over.
Have lived in Medford since 2009 on the East side and agree with you're depiction of the area. On the negative side, I would add that the poorly located airport / planes landing + flying overhead greatly affect the livability of some sections of Medford. On the positive side - traffic (while getting heavier) is still pretty darn good / easy to get to all parts of Southern Oregon.
I expected CJ to be on the list, but not number one. I live here and can tell you it wasn't always like this. The main problems are meth, alcohol and homelessness. There are incredibly beautiful swimming holes, camping and gold mining galore. Tourists fall in love with the "Eight Dollar" area. There's a Tiger Conservation park, the Caves Monument and Selma's swinging bridge canyon is spectacular. Our section of the Illinois River is the Chinook salmon spawning beds every October. This town had it all . . . so what went wrong? Ya not enough police.
There wouldn't be so many homeless people if we had affordable housing. I'm working and living out of my car and I can tell you it's easier to just not work if you're homeless. If you are making it on a single income from regular job, then I envy you and applaud you because you had to sacrifice something important to you such as having car/insurance, pet, groceries, recreation, etc, etc.
1 thing the cave junction area has going for it is many Sasquatch sightings and spooky stories. But that’s about it in my eyes.
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I grew up in Eagle Point and it's my absolute favorite place.
Hey that levy passed & there’s significantly more law enforcement
If someone is a middle class person who can afford a descent home, try Ashland, East Medford, Jacksonville it the hills surrounding. Not bad at all.
If you don't like living here pick it up and move.
Agree with most, but you REALLY should have also included Bonanza.
I tried to stay focused on Jackson & Josephine counties only, but Glendale is so close I threw it into the mix. If i expanded east, Klamath Falls would have definitely been on the list.
I lived in Ashland for 17 years, and worked in downtown Medford during my last 10 years in Oregon until I got fired for not complying to medical tyranny. Oregon is a very beautiful state (I miss my trips to Brookings) but the politics sucks and blows!
Was that during Covid? I know a lot of people didn't want to comply with the requirements of the hospitals and other businesses, ultimately losing their jobs.
@@BuyingSouthernOregon Yes, during the covid crap! Lost my job thanks to Governor Kate if it's Brown flush it down's mandate for healthcare workers.
As a retired health care provider, Covid was not crap. It’s a new heavily mutating virus whose job is to find hosts to live in. It doesn’t care about your politics, your ignorance, your rights, what church you attend, its job is to survive, period. Don’t talk to me about your bullshit about your medical rights, not under a pandemic.
Where I worked before I retired out it was mandatory for me to get a flu shot every year, to be evaluated for tb every year, to get hepatitis B and C shots at ten year intervals, And wear a mask under Covid. That was to,protect me and patients from getting sick.
Those people who worked in health care and didn’t comply, should not have been in health care to begin with and I’m happy they lost their jobs for not doing what the basics of medicine requires to protect patients and staff.
I complied with all of that because I cared about my patients and their welfare as well as my own. What I have a problem with is the stupidity of people who know nothing about virus assuming they won’t get it. My colleagues had the most problems helping people who said they couldn’t have covid because it was a hoax, or refused to take the jab because they would die. How ignorant can anyone be. My colleagues got tired of all the grief they got while trying to save lives and some retired out or became roving nurses and docs.
The reality is Americans really don’t care about our people, are selfish and believe everything the right wing misinformation media tells them. They have grown increasingly anti science and anti medical that is until you need medical help to survive and then you want medicine to save your behind. We are the only developed country without universal health care for all its citizens because that’s socialism. No, it’s called taking of your people. We largely don’t care.
How is Klamath Falls not even on the list? It's worst per capita than any of the others listed
Also grew up in the Rouge valley.
Pre 2000 is wasn't to bad. After 2005 it started to get pretty bad.
Investors have ruined it. Out of staters drove up real estate prices which drove people to rent. Not enough high paying jobs exist here. Heavy handed policing, and homeless everywhere.
Everyone knows or has worked with an illegal. Canibus growing everywhere, and theres no money in it anymore. Illegal chinese and cartel grows in the hills. No real industry for good paying jobs anymore.
Southern oregon has lost its identity.
The guy doing this video is just looking to sell real estate to out of staters. Hes part of the problem in the destruction of livability in southern Oregon. ( A parasite).
Visited my mother last yr in Phoenix, and i didnt recognize the greater medford area. I thought i was in thr san Francisco bay area. Everyone i tallked to wasnt from here. Most of them were ex Californians.
We moved away 8 yrs ago, and dont miss what ot has become. See the beauty of the outdoors, but never move there. Dont even gete started about sam's valley. Check the comment about Californians.
I grew up in S.O. Klamath Falls needs to be on the lowest part of that list.
My first 30 years were in Grants Pass/Southern Oregon and the next 30 in the Seattle area, then became a global guy. I count my blessings to have grown up in Southern Oregon, but when I return now to visit family I'm a bit disappointed. There's incredible natural beauty, but as you mentioned local support for basic municipal services has clearly reduced safety and general quality of life for most. That said, most anywhere you choose to live has benefits and drawbacks. The subjective question we all need to ask is, "Are the positive attributes so good that I can tolerate the downsides?"
Yep. The locals call Medford, Methford. It’s gotten bad over the years, but wherever you have meth and opioid use, you’re going to have crime. Grants pass had one of the highest levels of opioid overdoses per capita in the country.
And, you don’t get addicts to change by co-signing their addiction as that recent law did. Get a dui or possession charge, it should be jail or rehab. Get busted again, lose your drivers license, spend a longer time in rehab or jail. Worked well in Santa Clara county Ca where I was a MH therapist for years.
The worst parts about Southern Oregon, are the gas prices, and that cost-of-living got inflated huge by the green rush, all the people coming up here to grow weed
The hippies who migrated into the area to grow pot and live in their vans are inflating the cost of living? 🤔 Hmmm not sure if that one adds up, but I'm totally open to any verifiable data you have that supports your theory...
Very good summation, However I do not like the clips you use that are not of the area you are talking about! JP3
Born and raised. So blessed to be here. Everyones mom goes to community college
Seems to me, low taxes is a benefit. A lot of people are suffering under the heavy hand of government these days. And people getting concealed carry licenses - what is wrong with that? I like that. Anyway, if you love cops so much, then YOU should fund them. Leave the rest of us alone. Some of us are not so thrilled at some of the shady things cops do, such as civil asset forfeiture. And guess what, there is car theft in Portland too.
"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim."
~~ Jeff Cooper
I don't disagree with you at all. I never said I have a problem with concealed carry, in fact I have my license. In the video, I'm just explaining the situation to viewers so they can decide if it's an area they want to live or not. Thanks for watching.
Courier driver here… have delivered this area for over thirty years and I cannot agree more ! Actually I laughed about some of this content
Spot on
My mother still lives in white city where a murder happened just 4 houses away
She won’t move for whatever…
M childhood wasn’t terrible only because of the fact that my father was a sheriff and there was often a police vehicle out front
That simba reference was hilarious
🤣 I couldn't think of a better visual. Haha. Glad you enjoyed it.
Southern Oregon isnt as bad as many people paint it to be. Its not great, I wouldnt reccomend people moving here, but thats mainly because finding housing is extremely difficult, and many of the locals are already struggling with a sparse job market and overpriced homes. We have homeless people and tweakers, but name one place in this country that doesn't. And id like to say, while Cave junction has always had issues, I'd rather walk alone at night in cave junction than grants pass. 🤷♀️
We live in Glendale, it's a beautiful tiny town. We love it !! Your view point of our town is misleading 😢!
I'm curious what part you think is misleading? I said it's off the beaten path, which it is. I said it's a town that was once in better shape than it is today, which is true. I'm not sure what I said that was misleading. I completely understand if you love the town, and I'm sure there are a lot of people who do, but that doesn't mean what I said is misleading.
I lived in Kerby. I wouldn't even grocery shop in C.J. without a gun on my hip.
Our grandparents had a ranch in WILLIAMS Oregon which is a beautiful area. They sponsor balloon rides in the spring. I’m not sure why you would say it’s bad? Has something changed? There weren’t any problems with Williams in the past. They had a country store and a nice swimming hole, which has been closed up recently. Not sure why.
White city is terrible. Locals call it $hitty city. They don’t have property taxes there so many folks appreciate that.
If you want THE TRUTH- Liberal policies are ruining Southern Oregon. During the plandemic, homelessness and drug use soared!!! We have lived in Southern Oregon since 2002. Rent in the area is typical and unaffordable. How long will liberal politicians control Southern Oregon? We are considering selling our properties here and moving, which is very sad because Southern Oregon has been a beautiful place but thanks to liberal policies such as legalization of drugs, have absolutely ruined our communities. Shame on you liberals. Disgusting politics!!!
Thankfully measure 110 is being rolled back and drug possession will be a misdemeanor again that is punishable with 6 months of jail or the option to get treatment. I'm optimistic that will have a big impact on the drug and homeless issues across the state.
Portland voters continue to vote for stupid policies. Over and over and over and over🙄🙄
I generally live in Beatty, lot like Williams
Born and raised in oregon. Hes telling the truth. But it isnt cheap and local income does not match the median rent. Moving to oregon may be out of reach because of rising prices on homes and insurance from fire risk.
This area is quickly becoming too expensive to live in for the young people taking care of the retirement community here.
If you have teenagers or kids, consider the probability that they will not be able to move out on their own income out here. Being honest, even if you are thinking its cheaper, it isnt, the cost of living is higher than employers are willing to pay.
Klamath Falls. The amount of drugs and murders for such a smaller place is crazy! But I guess the fact that Air Force one can land here makes up for that. Want a good story? There was a Chinese restaurant that was always packed. I can still hear their commercial. “Sonny say, eat more Chinese foo”. We had a sheriff, and a few others, that shook one too many dirty hands and got caught one day. By the next day, the Chinese restaurant was closed. Sonny and family gone from town overnight. Why? Oh just some sex slaves/trade underneath the restaurant. There’s bikers in this town that still talk about the good ole boy about doing lines off the hood of his gov rig and even have pictures to prove it.
But now, he’s gone and the homeless population that was never a thing here has started moving their camps to every corner. The amount of fentanyl is off the charts and there’s still lots of shootings.
Moved from town last year. I’m more mountain, quiet and stars now. Only go to town once a week/twice tops. Cut friends off because they all started doing ..things that I won’t and would never have around my family. It was a good trade in the long run.
It's a different world over there
@@BuyingSouthernOregon yah. Waaay different. We’ve got the people in what I’d call living in the backwoods out on Bly Mountain. The higher up you go, the more you start hearing dueling banjo’s! Know what I mean. Don’t get me going on Chi Town. (Chiloquin). Their backwoods have native Indians. The ones on Bly Mountain are hillbilly. I’d much rather deal with white trash. I could probably barter my catalytic converter for safe passage through. Because over in Chi would probably require my scalp! J/k. Ish.
Graduated from Klamath Union High School in 1974. At that time when a person graduated they had a choice, go to work at Weyerhauser or leave for greener pastures. I couldn't picture myself working in a mill so I left for greener pastures.
The sad thing is, that Sheriff used to have his son sell meth out of the sheriff's house.. I believe him and his family are still trying to "Yellowstone meets Beaking Bad" the area.
The murders of young boys in the area from 2010 through current is appalling. Not to mention kidnappings/attempted kidnappings and sexual assaults.. At least the predators disappear when law enforcement can't or won't help.
Drugs, "gangs," and corruption are the driving force behind the darkness in Klamath Falls.
It's expanding, and I hope the good starts outweighing the bad.
It's possible to live here and avoid drug, etc. drama. You just can't expect to make friends or trust too many people.
I'd say roughly 1 of 10 people casually use hard drugs, and 1 of 20 people are probably too sketchy to even converse with.
Klamath Falls #0
😂 agreed
I currently live in have lived in Grants Pass since 1992 and while this used to be a really nice place to live the homeless and drugs are absolutely out of control. They're overrunning the parks and the streets there is paraphernalia and garbage all over. You think people that live down by the river would be cleaner .
It's a real problem in so many places. We find and clean up abandoned homeless encampments near the Willamette here in Oakridge. Piles and piles of clothing, boxes, even jars of urine (apparently they drink it for any residual drugs that might be present.) It's a constant problem in Eugene in parks and along the Willamette River. There's a non-profit out of Fall Creek that keeps busy just dismantling and hauling away abandoned trailers, cars and RVs. And yet we blame city administrations. Their hands are tied, we don't have enough housing for people who can afford it, let alone find roofs for folks who don't want to live by any regulations because they're ruled by alcohol, drugs and mental illness. Eugene spent $1M cleaning up Jefferson Park after clearing out all the homeless who had taken it over, and yet despite 'no camping' signs being posted, they constantly have to shoo homeless away. IDK what the answer is, since the rest of us want to live in safe, clean environments.
So, I’m wondering why one would use the city scape of an oregon town that lies in the middle of the willamette valley (Eugene) as the thumbnail to describe the worst parts of “southern” oregon. The background pic is clearly that of Eugene (facing south from most likely the top of skinners butte) but this video talks about areas around Medford which is 2.5-3 hours south of Eugene.
If you live in rural SO, and you think law enforcement is here to protect you? Yes, you might be disappointed. If you have a fenced and gated property posted "No Trespassing", leave outdoor lights on all night, keep a 140 pound pit bull, and answer the door after dark with a handgun? Life will fine for you. The bad guys somehow figure out who will take care of themselves, and they leave you alone. In nearly 40 years here I've not had any crime problems.
I live in rural Southern Oregon, don't have a fenced or gated property, don't have a "no tresspassing" sign, no 140lb Pitbull either...and I've never had an issue or even felt unsafe. I think some people are going to be paranoid and feel unsafe no matter where they are.
@@BuyingSouthernOregon Look, you misunderstand. I'm not paranoid or feeling unsafe, personally. I'm content and happy where I'm at. Plan to live here where I'm at the rest of my days. I'm retired now. For 40 years I was a self-employed tradesman, offering my services to folks like maybe you sell houses to. I had a shop full of expensive tools and also some to take along and do onsite work with. (I still have all my tools, am just not publicly running a business now..)
People came to my home and shop out in the country looking for me and my services, even sometimes when I wasn't there. Never once was I a victim of crime. You wanna know why? Even though I was a single guy most of that time I always had other people living there too. Housemates, caretaker, tenants, friends visiting. We might all come and go, but we would never all be gone at the same time. Simple. It is kind of what you need to do to be secure out in the country. A group of people all watching each other's backs. All the yard lights and stuff? That's just for the night creepers. They see all that stuff and they go elsewhere.
When the Sherriff is an hour away (and won't come at all, unless for something life-threatening?) You have to take care of yourself.
Sam’s valley is hot in the summer like white city, and low water access.
I’ve pretty much grew up with family in most of these places and it is rough.