Avengers vs X Men: Colossus vs Spiderman
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2023
- Avengers vs X Men: VS Vol 1 Issue 2.
▸ Spider-Man is paired up with Colossus, who has recently become the new Juggernaut as well. Colossus wants to end the fight quickly out of fear that he might hurt Spider-Man, who responds by webbing up his face. As he fights him, Spider-Man tells Colossus that his fights with Juggernaut typically end with him winning. Though Spider-Man manages to land a few, yet ineffective, blows and webs up his feet, Colossus claps his hands, producing a wave that knocks Spider-Man to the ground.
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While that ending was a cop out, those last 3 panels are very funny.
"I'm never gonna back down cause I'm a-"
"Spidey we can leave"
"Oh thank god, I was bluffing so hard. I was gonna die for sure!"😂
"What about that vat of marshmellow!!?? " 🤣
@@chrismcdonald2947 Spidey would have *become* the vat of marshmallow! 😂
That's one of the reasons I found Dresden Files to be such an enjoyable series.
Dresden is such a witty bullshitter like Spider-man.
@@kamikeserpentail3778A fellow cultured individual, awesome to see! I love the Dresden Files
Iirc Spidey beat the original Juggernaut and Firelord in Amazing Spider-Man in the '80s.
"Do you really think you can hurt me more than the writers have, Piotr?"
"Da."
I always took Spidey’s wisecracks not to belittle his opponents and get under their skin, but (primarily) to keep things lighthearted so he doesn’t lose his own nerve. Parker is an anxious guy who uses comedy as a shield. My interpretation, anyways.
I thought to cope with the situation , have everything under control but never been confirmed. Shows and comics do confirmed it was to unbalance his opponents.
@@SpikeTheWolf HOLY FUCK I recognize that pfp anywhere.
I think that's pretty true as if you think about it in a fight he's probably mostly along for the ride in the more hectic fights as he dodges and weaves wherever his spider sense tells him is safe
@@prop_copter2172 as it should be.
You are a Professor of comic character psychology!! Happy New Year!!!!!
Hell, even in that last panel Spider-Man knew that Colossus would have eventually killed him. Hence "I thought I was going to end up as the Incredible Spider-Paste."
I still day his smarts being damn near God level he would have found a way. Just takes some cleaver writing.
From what i can remember from reading numerous decades of spidey stories, is that the joke cracking was a fear triggered reaction, to hide the fact he was afraid, and he noticed it also had the effect of pissing off the majority of his foes, causing them to make mistakes. 😎
So over time, as he conquered his fear.... he also honed his humour.
Directed sarcasm, insults, and dad jokes. Can be as cutting as a vibranium energy sword. 😁
Cutting is adamantium.
@@ked49
You are correct sir.
I sit corrected
😎
Yepper, that's how it started.
Remember he was a high school kid when he got his powers
Spidey just can't catch a break it's hard being one of the most beloved characters ever brought to pen
Too true!! Poor man keeps getting milked for franchise, movies, spinoffs, shows, merch and more
@@mankou-hunterwhats sad is today you can't find the Peter that everyone loved in any medium (comics, movies, video games) at least we always have the old comics
You spiderman fanboys are always making excuses for spiderman when he loses and complaining all the time. Is he supposed to beat everyone he goes against everytime? Get a grip.
And spiderman fans are always talking about "he's holding back". So was he holding back when Colossus over powered him? If you think he's really as strong as Colossus juggernaut you guys need to put down the weed, it's destroying ur brain cells.
THE X MEN HAVE IT WORSE…THEY GET ATTACKED BY EVERYONE
I remember being so shocked when Colossus won this fight when AvX was going on. Not because I didn't think Colossus was strong enough but because the writing was so bias in the Avengers favor during this period in the story. They didn't even let Colossus get the KO win either. Still I really liked the Unstoppable Colossus even if it didn't last long. He was overdue for such a cool powerup.
I completely agree. Unstoppable Colossus was a really cool addition though I still like Juggernaut as well. And you are 100% correct. The writers were bias and wanted the Avengers to win. Toni Stark tempering with Emma’s telepathy with “nano technology” was a BS excuse they pulled out of their ass. Emma would have finished the entire battle with just one thought forcing the Avengers into a state of coma.
As someone who's 2 most favorite Marvel characters are Spidey and Colossus, I didn't mind the no K.O win as long as Colossus won just because the only way Spidey was gonna win this fight is if he trick Piotr into walking in some wet cement haha. But yeah I also like the Juggernaut power-up for Colossus too mostly because those 2 have fought so many times with Cain winning most of them that the change seemed poetic in a way. But yeah my boy Colossus is overdue for a permanent power-up/evolution of some kind to his powers.
Yeah. I'm a fan of both Colossus and Spidey too. This was overall a entertaining brawl.@@anispidey
Agreed
Ya, this was the most interesting colossus had been in a long time. Also agree it felt like avengers were being given special treatment when it came to these fights.
I always thought Spider-Man joking is like a defense mechanism he developed when he first started out to help him cope and stay calm during fights. That was always my explanation
It also in my opinion to show he's not a wimpy nerd anymore afraid of a bully he's finally standing up for himself.
People use Otto punching Scorpion's Jaw off as an example of how strong Spiderman is but I still go to when he beat Firelord unconscious in a span of (20?) minutes
That was Spiderman's peak, beating the shit out of Firelord even Spidey himself was surprised.
My main issue with the Unstoppable Colossus is that they didn’t give him strength boost way beyond Hulk level strength. If the Gem of Cyttorak gave Cain Marlo Hulk level strength and Colossus already has near Hulk level strength, then the merger of the two should have elevated his strength immensely. It’s why I was upset when he fought the Thing that they were basically equals
Yeah he should be insanely powerful
I mean. It doesn't mean it's stackable.
When he went into a demonic form he seemed to be more powerful,
It is true yeah but, what hulk level strength? There’s tiers to then there hulks.
The gem is a direct link/ is cytorak if you don't commit the evil it craves you don't get the full power. Cane mark had the same problem when he grew a conscience.
I'd love to see Unstoppable Colossus throw hands with The Hulk.
For the ‘Clap Dem Cheeks Championship’ belt? 😂😂😂
Spidey had no chance here - I love me some Spiderman but Clossus+Juggernaut is a bit much for him
Spider-man and Colossus are my 2 favorite Marvel comic characters, so this fight was especially conflicting for me personally lol
Naw Collossus is way & long overdue for any type of power up.
He only had this & Phoenix Five power ups and they both were temporary
I appreciate your videos and the effort you put into the content Definitely glad you haven’t slowed down or quit like you have mentioned in the past .
I always liked the unstoppable Colossus and I wish they kept it going. The problem is they insisted on writing him as an unhinged character.
Damn good idea to have these in the can. This Vs series was top tier.
Glad to see you got back to your roots, keep up the great work.
Spider-Man probably couldn’t End Colossus in that form, but defeat through some “air-lock”, troupe? Possibly.
Head to head? No way. Durability, strength and sheer power is in the X-Man’s favour.
Stan Lee himself said that Spidey cracks jokes as a coping mechanism because he's scared.
They snitched on my man Juggernaut lol
The more colossus the more I watch!! This is a classic.
Hope you and Mo had a Wonderful Holiday!! Miss you on Twitch!!!
Spider-Man and daredevil are there real dynamic duo in the marvel universe.
I've always liked the Cain Marko Juggernaut. Knowing Cyttorak is letting his power be used through the Crimson Gem, I've wondered what the other members of the Octessence put their power into? I think a few have been mentioned but we never got a full story. I've always wanted a series where all their "avatars" had a huge battle.
All I know is strange used their spells in the mcu
Spidey: WTF, where's MY permanent power upgrade?
This a cool lil series. Just focusing on the random fights of crossovers is genius.
"Doombots explode with the force of a M67 hand grenade. This is a design flaw."
I mean this "trivia" is just lies at this point. DOOM does not make flawed designs.
Spiderman be like
"Nah I'd win"
I love how Daredevil jumps in out of nowhere and is just like "Hope's not here. Let's go." to Spiderman. It reminds of Bats. I love these characters!
Man this is awesome man
Spider-Man famously beat Juggernaut by maneuvering him to get buried into a concrete foundation. It was one of the best Spider-Man fights ever.
Spidey takes a dirt nap while he's swimming with fishes at a closed casket funeral.
Imagine if Spiderman were to get the power of Juggernaut,that would be crazy🤔
🎵I came in like a wreckingbaaaaaal 🎵
The man the myth the comics explained we missed u!!! I can finally go to sleep in peace
"No way Marvel comics gonna tell a story where the main face of the company getting beat up"
Doesn't sound right Rob ,Spidey get bloody face all the time 😅
Have you covered fear itself? Would love to hear you cover it I missed so much of that when it was out and pieced things together through heroclix
I remember in Xforce/Spider-Man they fought juggernaut and spider kept saying “all you can do is slow him down”
Hope you had a great Christmas Rob! Have a great day everyone
Paper beats rock every time; I think a good writer would have outlined the fact that P. Parker isn’t dumb enough to waste all his energy brawling with a superior athlete, he would have used Colossus’ deteriorating reasoning against him if need be to “capture his king” e.g. Hope Summers with some kind of trap.
Could you cover issues 2 and 3 for marvel zombies black white and blood please issue 4 comes out on the 3rd
The first vs comic I read was spider-man vs the juggernaut. In that fight Spiderman wasn't stupid enough to go toe to toe with the juggy (kind of), he ends up luring the Juggernaut into a construction site and he sinks to the bottom of a foundation for a skyscraper that hadn't set yet. Just like he says in the current vs comic. They need a round 3!
Everyday with post thanks rob
I dont know about never showing Spidey getting absolutely whupped. Y'all remember when Morlun first popped up? He beat the crap out of Peter.
I seen the thumbnail and was like no way they killing spidy off !? Haha... cosmic spiderman got a chance. And spiderman my go to !
I always love the "AvX Fun Fact" that are shown in some panels. It's like the writers like to insert some of their jokes.
hey could you do a video on Unstoppable Colossus ?
I know he wasn't around or utalized too much during his tenure-
but i'd love a "watch read" of his full story. id like to know what the hell he was up to during this power up
Love the avenger vs X-men series
Interesting that the RUclips channel "Enchanting Narratives" is using the same thumbnail on their AVX: Colossus Vs Spider-Man video that came out a day ago. I literally clicked on it because I thought that it was this one. Funny that it's their only long form video too with no other AVX titles leading up to this fight.
it'd be cool if you cover the daredevil vs psylocke fight
There are so many crazy possible Juggernaut combinations -Reed Richards Juggernaut, Hulk Juggernaut, Quicksilver Juggernaut, Rogue Juggernaut...
This was crazy 😧🤣🤣
Spidey definitely has the skills to _not lose_ to Jugger-Colossus. If there were no other stakes he could easily evade him long enough to create a diversion and slip away unnoticed. But he has an objective here, which forces him to cover for Daredevil and keeps him in the fight, making him vulnerable. And if he's forced to stay in the fight, eventually Colossus _will_ wear him down.
Running away = losing. Stalling is not about winning the fight, but winning the greater battle. We all know too well if PIS is not around spiderman has absolutely zero chance of winning outside of using PIS items to win.
Juggernaut is god tier or beyond levels of power.
For a spider to survive that kind of power in milliseconds is just PIS.
@@kal.asther Depends on what exactly your objectives are. If you just want Colossus out of some area, luring him away and then losing him would count as a victory. But I explicitly worded it as "not losing" as in "not getting beaten to a pulp".
Yeah, aside from outside help or _a lot_ of setup, Spider-Man has no realistic chances to actually win - but much like he pulls his punches against regular criminals, Colossus still has enough control to hold back against him. He technically _has_ the power to end this quickly, but the opponent's mental state plays just as much of a role as their abilities. And Piotr is a gentle giant at heart, who tries to avoid unnecessary violence - especially against someone he recognizes as a fellow hero, despite how misguided they may seem to him in that moment. So he wouldn't go all out from the start.
@@SKy_the_Thunder then you should have worded it as that because in a fight running away is losing that fight. The only good thing yiu could say about it is thay surviving is a w on its own merit. But lets not dance around the previous argument's fact.
@@kal.astheryou do know Spider-Man has went up against god tier strength more times than I can count , even beat a rampaging hulk once , there was a whole convo in a bar where people bet on who would win watching the fight on tv, and the person who bet on Spider-Man got their money , bc he obviously won, then there was the time he went up against phoenix force colossus and majik, and fought them, he didn’t win by fighting he won by makin them fight each other but the point is he still hit , and took hits from the Phoenix force , managed to harm and beat a hulk “not sure if it was grey” and then even fought Hercules once , you must not know why he’s the face of marvel my friend
@@jowavy3599
Jesus. There's a word that can describe that.
PIS.
I even described it in my comment.
Do me a favor, research that word, and use common sense.
Spider-man doesn't have the physical abilities to beat a god-tier being.
With that line falling into concrete it's a refance of spider vs juggernaut in the 80s? 90s? Where juggernaut tries and fails to kidnap madum web .
Spidey and DD blasting off like Team Rocket
We're out. GG
Ah, writers find a way to let Spider-Man win this fight. Real physics doesn’t actually exist in comics.
If they reeeeeeeally wanted to they could have written a Spidey victory with some hand wave-y mumbo jumbo since he's beaten tougher opponents before, but I'm glad they went the route of "Nah, he just scrams and makes a joke about being scared shitless lol. Makes way more sense and doesn't diminish either of their characters.
First of all
Collosus flexibility on the splash page!
I love comic books so much
Beyond Omega Level: Kulan Gath!👿
"Not like this. Not like this."
"Hammer for you, hammer for you, EVERYBODY GETS A HAMMER"
- oprah probably
The Juggernaut's look is so specific that it didn't click we weren't talking about the Juggernaught until it was explained to me that I wasn't 1/3 of the way in. Good grief.
4:53 insert Lead pipe Sound Effect right here.
I'm waiting on that new element Tony Stark is going around testing
that juggernaut 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Colossus is my favorite childhood character & Juggernaut was the ultimate villian. In the comics vs the X-Men by far my favorite comics were Juggernaut vs X-Men. Colossus Juggernaut power would is wild looks really cool. Poor Spidey never stood a chance regular Juggernaut would eat his lunch. A 3times power Spidey could only hope to survive or distract him from his goal. That's pretty all the entire X-Men team could do distract & survive. My favorite cover is Juggernaut standing on a pile of X-Men holding Colossus up by his throat.
UNSTOPPABLE COLOSSUS v THE THING ROB!
Rob you should cover the story's were hulk fights zeus
So basically a shiny new Hulk complete with signature sonic boom attack.
I was looking forward to Gambit vs Captain America. I would love to write for Gambit, I'd get so creative with his powers.
In all honesty, Gambit can potentially be walking, living vibranium. Like Human Torch can create and cancel out fire, what if Gambit has the power of not only exciting kinetic energy, but cancel it out? He'd theoretically be able to take any hit, reducing the impact to nothing.
Also, if Gambit can excite the kinetic energy of an object to explosive limits, and vibranium can absorb and redirect kinetic energy, how powerful can gambit charge Cap's shield?
7:54 I would love to see the rage aspect of The Crimson Gem used a bit more. Juggernaut’s run was pretty good. It would be cool to see Dr. Strange pull Juggernaut & and few other character for an adventure meant to expand on the lore.
Peter is my Never say die.
That Colossal clap should have made Dare Devil deaf if he was within several miles radius...
Contest of chaos next!
Plot Twist - two buildings down a vat of Marshmallow was left behind 😂
I'm no comic expert but I heard that it requires the Juggernaut to cause destruction in order to maintain his powers. Kindly correct me if I'm wrong with that.
Took me ages to realise who colossus is had to wait for a bit damn can be so dense
I knew he enhanced his webbing in the 90’s animated series when he was fighting with Kraven the hunter
No offense, love your channel, but didnt you cover all of this already, Rob? What happened to the Jonathon Kent in the Injustice universe story? Also, check out the Witching Hour Wonder Woman story! It's bonkers, I would love for you to cover it sometime. Peace.
Colossus wearing a jaguarnaught helmet.
“Colossus wrecks Spider-Man”
Excuse me… he does WHAT now???
Spiderman cracking jokes came to a dead stop when Peter crossed Carnage again.
No quips with the crazy.
This is about as fair as a chocolate fireguard vs a volcano
Spidy can one shot the Unstoppable Colossus if he was in his Captian Universe form but he doesn't have any access to that power source
That line up isn't even fair.
Just once i want a story where Cyttorak says suck it im the most powerful dark magic guy and unleashes hell
According to Rob and his last Captain America V Gambit video, “wrecked” means “punched once”.
We are told Spidey wears the mask so villains dont see how scared he is, I think that’s part of why the wisecracks, he’s terrified.
damn, i need to pay more attention. took me almost 30 second into the video before I realized it was colossus and not juggernaut.
Man I wish they would bring back Unstoppable Colossus!
I need to read Avengers vs X-Men in preparation for Avengers Secret Wars and the X-Men's Arrival in Phase 7 of the MCU.
Rob, did you skip match 2?
Peter's intellect is matched by few, he was near death and convinced Phoenix Force enabled Colossus and Magik to take out themselves.
Even Spidey knew he would lose.
Beyond omega level: the divine creator
Crimson gem , Red Power ring
I take it this is as far as this comkc series go these versus
Would love to see a crossover where the Flash gains the power of the Juggernaut....
Oh hella yeah. The strength of juggernaut and the speed of the flash, he’d be literally unstoppable. Not even superman could slow him down.
Is Unstoppable Colossus the strongest form of Colossus we've seen so far? Seems very overpowered. I love it
@0:45 who is cap talking to? I mean the way he is facing is just weird like, is he just talking to the ocean, its just wierd
But later on, when colossus and his sister had the phoenix force, spiderman was trapped with them and in that fight colossus actually punches spidey in the face twice, I think, before he makes them fight each other to get more phoenix force, and he was left with blood dripping from his mask and then Wolverine and Cap rescue him.