Spider Man Kills The Marvel Universe

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  • ▸ Spider-Man is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer-editor Stan Lee and artist Steve Ditko, he first appeared in the anthology comic book Amazing Fantasy 15 (August 1962) in the Silver Age of Comic Books. He has been featured in comic books, television shows, films, video games, novels, and plays.
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  • @ElderAleks
    @ElderAleks 11 месяцев назад +6376

    Peter getting his licks back for all the horrible things the marvel universe has made him endure.

    • @VoiceChattin
      @VoiceChattin 11 месяцев назад +401

      And even now, he had a sad ending. Man cannot catch a break

    • @jacksonjack7838
      @jacksonjack7838 11 месяцев назад +52

      Murder is not payback for bad things that happen to a person.

    • @ripleyfry2107
      @ripleyfry2107 11 месяцев назад +180

      ​@@jacksonjack7838 depends on the reason

    • @YTSORF
      @YTSORF 11 месяцев назад +35

      ​@@ripleyfry2107 👏

    • @steelheart538
      @steelheart538 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@ripleyfry2107 aight. Just gonna kill and cannibalize the next asshole who talks to me just like my hero, Spider-man.

  • @HolyHadou
    @HolyHadou 11 месяцев назад +6012

    Even when Spider-Man's Spider Sense gets a glowup and a glowing recommendation for it's ability to help him survive an apocalypse, he still gets shot in the head. Every time...

    • @Smoke1kenobi
      @Smoke1kenobi 11 месяцев назад +94

      😂

    • @craig.6076
      @craig.6076 11 месяцев назад +666

      I was just thinkin that. Bro didnt even try to dodge for mary janes sake. Spidey sense just didnt work i guess.

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 11 месяцев назад +269

      Spiderman's spider sense doesn't force him to move out the way he is only aware of the danger. My guess is in the moment while Spiderman was celebrating he ignored his spider sense.

    • @danzrt
      @danzrt 11 месяцев назад +684

      @@kappadarwin9476 that’s just a dumb excuse. You praise spidersense as the reason why he survived out of every superhero halfway the run just to end it like this

    • @christianvaldes1040
      @christianvaldes1040 11 месяцев назад +55

      ​@Dan Zrt its been said before if spiderman is fatigued or distracted it wont go off.

  • @thebigjj4294
    @thebigjj4294 11 месяцев назад +3360

    God this story was insane. The end of stark was horrible. Literally starved to death inside a prison of iron. As someone who is claustrophobic literally gave me the chills

    • @Shitbird3249
      @Shitbird3249 11 месяцев назад +171

      I’d like to think he had to poop and the suit wasn’t working so he drowned.

    • @thebigjj4294
      @thebigjj4294 11 месяцев назад +160

      ​@@Shitbird3249 God don't even say anything else man. You're giving me the chills

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 11 месяцев назад +100

      Its also sad that no one could get him out of the suit despite his pleas showing how dire the situation was at the time.

    • @thebigjj4294
      @thebigjj4294 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@kappadarwin9476 god I'm getting goosebumps hearing that

    • @baked7423
      @baked7423 11 месяцев назад +97

      tbh stark was gone. Tony had turned which is why he couldnt get out of the suit as the suit shut down as a protocol and not smart enough anymore

  • @Lysander45
    @Lysander45 11 месяцев назад +2345

    One thing I liked about this comic was just how huge Spiderman had become. He always had that default superhero physique, but the man has spent years on a Keto diet chowing down on protein and it left him bulky as hell.

  • @JarvisBaileyVA
    @JarvisBaileyVA 11 месяцев назад +1974

    "I know you guys love it when horrible things happen to the superheroes"
    Not Spider-Man Rob, it's become downright trite seeing bad things happen to Spider-Man

    • @kingmuizz708
      @kingmuizz708 11 месяцев назад +70

      It's just sad to see what happens to Pete man..

    • @exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen
      @exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen 11 месяцев назад +171

      ​@@kingmuizz708 especially when it's bs writing like the authors conveninently forgetting that Spidey has spider-sense, just so that the Punisher could give him the cheapest of deaths.

    • @ayaanmirza1677
      @ayaanmirza1677 11 месяцев назад +45

      The writers always do spiderman dirty too in these types of comics
      DP kills the marvel universe: gets his face blown off
      Punisher kills the marvel universe: gets his face blown off
      Punisher again: gets shot in the face
      The Ultimate Universe: gets shot again

    • @TonyAlexander-on4sy
      @TonyAlexander-on4sy 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ayaanmirza1677 ultimate isn't like this but yeah

    • @joadarium9605
      @joadarium9605 11 месяцев назад +23

      It’s like a sick “torture porn” inside joke to Marvel Comic’s staff at this point. The only time we see him get a win is media outside of comics which is good but also sucks because the 616 Spidey never got a win since the 90’s

  • @pacifistattack
    @pacifistattack 11 месяцев назад +1414

    No way spiderman didn't let Frank kill him. With his spider sense and abilities he could have easily dodged the bullet and taken Frank out.

    • @ultraisaiah7859
      @ultraisaiah7859 11 месяцев назад

      Okay we get it, you’re a meat rider

    • @Dosei236
      @Dosei236 11 месяцев назад +43

      Was thinking the same thing maybe the virus affected it?

    • @G-switch
      @G-switch 11 месяцев назад +272

      @@Dosei236 Cant, the dude himself said the spider sense is what made spiderman so powerful in the tribe world

    • @Nathaniel_The_Evil_One
      @Nathaniel_The_Evil_One 11 месяцев назад +188

      The ending is the result of SHITTY writing. I would have had it so that Spider-man's spider sense kicked in when Punisher tried to pull the gun on him. Then I would have had Spider slam the gun into Punisher's temple. When Punisher falls to the ground, the gun fires and Frank's head just explodes. Then Spider-Man lives happily.

    • @synthysynthy
      @synthysynthy 11 месяцев назад +37

      Bro I was like “OH NAHHHH” because that is actually some bullshit right there.

  • @tobypettit6417
    @tobypettit6417 11 месяцев назад +838

    I love that Rob is incapable of mentioning Black Bolt without ripping on him 🤣

    • @sabyhernandezjr7048
      @sabyhernandezjr7048 11 месяцев назад +43

      At this point if he doesn't do it, I feel like he has lost his fastball

    • @dakotagummo1847
      @dakotagummo1847 11 месяцев назад +14

      I mean can anyone talk about old Bitch Boi without insulting him?

    • @turtato2155
      @turtato2155 11 месяцев назад +7

      What he do?

    • @dosa3663
      @dosa3663 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@turtato2155Fr I thought blackbotl was cool

    • @DogOffTheLeash
      @DogOffTheLeash 11 месяцев назад +18

      @@dosa3663 He's managed to simultaneously be underrated and overrated lol.

  • @notyourdamnbusiness8795
    @notyourdamnbusiness8795 11 месяцев назад +652

    like you stated: its a comic and who cares, but it kinda bugs me that characters with insane healing abilities can succumb to a virus/disease.
    so then it also should be possible to kill them with a virus/disease.

    • @Malthizar
      @Malthizar 11 месяцев назад +64

      What's the point of consuming any story at all if we're just going to ignore internal consistency?

    • @LEOODARTHVADER2
      @LEOODARTHVADER2 11 месяцев назад +128

      Not to mention a lor of other inconsistencies, the Iron Man suit has failsafes in case his software bugs out since the 70s, Spider-Man has spider-sense that would obviously make him dodge the gunshot, Iceman is biologically immune to most diseases due to his near absolute zero body temperature, Professor X, Jean Gray, and even Emma Frost would absolutely be able to hold these psychologically simple cannibals, unless they were the patient 0... I know it's the narrative purposed, but it's so absolutely dumb.

    • @carlwheezer1640
      @carlwheezer1640 11 месяцев назад +54

      During Marvel Universe vs Wolverine, which is another comic set in this same universe, it's stated that people with healing factors have some resistance against the virus. Wolverine, for example, it's infected pretty early on, but manages to stay himself through it. Deadpool is another example. He is able to fight back against if if he wants to, he just... doesn't. Which does bug me a little.

    • @mkguyadame4340
      @mkguyadame4340 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@Malthizar that's the point of what ifs and Else world story just to tell interesting concepts without being restricted

    • @garethhughes7430
      @garethhughes7430 11 месяцев назад +27

      @@LEOODARTHVADER2 The Iron Man suit locking up WAS the failsafe, he got infected and it shut down.

  • @jcheck1107
    @jcheck1107 11 месяцев назад +642

    Spider-Man gets more crap thrown at him than Nightwing

    • @blackfox7309
      @blackfox7309 11 месяцев назад +56

      My two favorite characters both get shitty lives

    • @joshinthesauce4636
      @joshinthesauce4636 11 месяцев назад +29

      Spider-Man is Spider-Cuck now 😭

    • @linkholder
      @linkholder 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@joshinthesauce4636 all thanks to that bitch Paul

    • @linkholder
      @linkholder 11 месяцев назад +39

      ​@@joshinthesauce4636 who wanted to self insert so bad he ruined Marvel comics

    • @KingShibe
      @KingShibe 11 месяцев назад +36

      Let's throw in Wally West too. They just killed him again for the 3rd time

  • @derronsaunders8115
    @derronsaunders8115 11 месяцев назад +305

    Rob I'm super disappointed that you didn't mention Wolverines part in all of this. Wolverine is still alive and one of the few that are immune and he along with Reed Richards are out there trying to to find a cure. The Hulk bit off Wolverines hand but he didn't eat him. The story is called Wolverine vs the Marvel Universe.

    • @wheeledion
      @wheeledion 11 месяцев назад +31

      I think he only talked about the first run in this universe which is called the Marvel Universe vs the Punisher. The comic you mention was a follow-up in the same universe where I think Wolverine was retconned into being alive. Correct me if I'm wrong tho, memory could be hazy

    • @moremusic868
      @moremusic868 11 месяцев назад

      @@wheeledion memory could be hazy. Call me crazy. I had sex with a girl named daisy. I was lazy, lets goo babyy

    • @mr.nicemice1220
      @mr.nicemice1220 10 месяцев назад +15

      Thank you, both of you. Couldn't figure out the name and it was bugging me

    • @gordonlove5121
      @gordonlove5121 2 месяца назад

      He's putting in a fun and interesting perspective.

  • @blackknightdiscussions7632
    @blackknightdiscussions7632 11 месяцев назад +586

    It always bugged me with Iron man locked in his suit; you would think as smart and a futurist as Tony is that he would have Failsafes in case these things happen. Because you can be damn sure, any version of Stark….including superior iron man (Douche bag stark) would have failsafes on top of failsafes because he would be too selfish (or stubborn) to die so haphazardly…..

    • @JosephWolfson
      @JosephWolfson 11 месяцев назад +82

      He didn’t download the newest update

    • @DeadShotJay
      @DeadShotJay 11 месяцев назад +92

      It’s cause he subsumed to the pathogen. So by the time his suit died pretty much he became infected so he didn’t have the know how on to get out.

    • @SutasSjet
      @SutasSjet 11 месяцев назад +98

      I could see the suit AI detecting his infection and locking down because of that. I'm probably wrong but I could see that being a failsafe too.

    • @Theorphan81
      @Theorphan81 11 месяцев назад +18

      Thing is, if there's a manual way to open the suit when it's powered down like that, it means it's something that can be exploited on the outside. I think weighing the pros and cons, Tony would go with it's better to be locked inside the suit, than it is to have a secret way you can get it off with manual force.
      There's pros and cons to everything.... I think Tony weighed the idea of a Villain being able to figure out how to peel his suit off as being more dangerous than getting locked inside of it with absolutely no one in the world being able to help him.

    • @SocraticMind89
      @SocraticMind89 11 месяцев назад +5

      You could chalk it up to there not needed a situation for him to get out bet eh comics

  • @johnaiwone6012
    @johnaiwone6012 11 месяцев назад +147

    Wolverine actually survived his fight with the Hulk, just had that arm ripped off but then retreated to Antartica and found Reed Richards, T'Challa and the surviving Science team who were looking for a cure for the virus.

  • @johnfranklin87
    @johnfranklin87 11 месяцев назад +536

    I can't see Tony not having a way out of his suit. He's a genius and he probably has thought about going up against an opponent who could knock out his systems and still have a way to open his suit

    • @spankosaurus
      @spankosaurus 11 месяцев назад +123

      yeah this story really sucked imo. really lazy writing

    • @oaktownraider119
      @oaktownraider119 11 месяцев назад +116

      Tony had turned cannibal. The suit shutoff as a contingency

    • @mkguyadame4340
      @mkguyadame4340 11 месяцев назад +13

      that's the point of what ifs and Else world story just to tell interesting concepts without being restricted

    • @TonyAlexander-on4sy
      @TonyAlexander-on4sy 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@oaktownraider119 bruh what

    • @garethhughes7430
      @garethhughes7430 11 месяцев назад +91

      @@TonyAlexander-on4syHe thought he was safe from the infection, but he wasn't. Jarvis/his suit shut down when he went cannibal, and he was no longer smart enough to override it. Then he starved.

  • @joel1245
    @joel1245 11 месяцев назад +453

    Spider Man had already tasted human flesh. Even when he has self control to not eat MJ, he will once he's hungry. Frank just did Peter a favor. The reason why he didn't dodge probably because Peter had known Punisher well enough to know he's gonna kill him anyway.

    • @baked7423
      @baked7423 11 месяцев назад +43

      I think spidey just didnt expect it cuz of the moment. Also Idk if spidey would have cuz its not zombies they're cannibals meaning they like flesh but dont need to eat it hence MJ being alive. But prob is the better choice to end spidey's life as conflicting as it is

    • @thefallencog
      @thefallencog 11 месяцев назад +110

      @@baked7423 Nah. OP's explanation is probably right.
      Spiderman was dumbed down in the story, but out of all the cannibals he was by far the most intelligent in the story. Spiderman knew at the end of the road that MJ and possibly the baby would have turned into food, because theres only so long spiderman can reject the hunger, especially given his new Physique.
      Spiderman probably hoped, and knew that Punisher would try to kill him when everything was said and done. After all, why did spiderman hold back on everything until MJ was deep into pregnancy? Peter knew the risk was too great, and for MJ alone he would have tried to held onto the bitter end. But now theres a bun in the oven. So he can't exactly leave it to chance anymore. Peter is some beast now in the story, but even beasts do quite a bit to protect the expecting mothers/newborns.

    • @baked7423
      @baked7423 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@thefallencog There's no hunger tho it's not a zombie virus. They just regressed where like animals no sense of class so they just eat whenever they're hungry and now have a taste for human flesh. As u say, even beasts have some instincts of family and I doubt Spidey is trying to eat her when he said he will let the the survivors go

    • @thefallencog
      @thefallencog 11 месяцев назад +25

      @@baked7423 Thats what im more getting at though. Cannibals are capable of eating regular food. But if the preference is for human flesh, and afaik there really wasnt any animals roaming around too often at the time of the story, it stands to reason that there is a rapidly dwindling supply of meat on the island.
      Peter is an animal due to the Cannibal virus and such, but hes still smart enough to put two and two together. Eventually they'd reach a point where MJ and her child would be the last food source on the island. For MJ he'd hold onto hope until the end, but with a baby he doesn't want that risk.
      Starving animals don't really discriminate when it comes to food when they are starving. And its said in the story the virus apparently allows them to be able to survive off a strictly Pica diet comprised of concrete and steel. But theres no indication in the story that, that part of the Viruses "forced evolution" is true.

    • @FantasmaNaranja
      @FantasmaNaranja 11 месяцев назад +25

      we see that deadpool is surprisingly smart in spite of being infected and spidey seems to have more complicated concepts like keeping survivors alive without eating them what a promise is and a sense of empathy for his "mate"
      odds are that healing factors can somewhat fight off the plague and possibly eventually heal them or at least adapt to the infection(which is why the comic had to rip wolverine to pieces so this wouldnt be obvious i assume)
      maybe frank castle in his usual shoot first think never just killed a potential cure for the virus

  • @tonybippitykaye
    @tonybippitykaye 11 месяцев назад +130

    Came for a “Spider-Man kills Marvel” story, ended up with an interesting post-apocalyptic Punisher story. Honestly, kind of badass.

  • @DaniG._.German
    @DaniG._.German 11 месяцев назад +96

    Spider-Man's spidey-sense is like Flash's superspeed: plot driven.

  • @vorshack8968
    @vorshack8968 11 месяцев назад +73

    The name of the actual comic (which is nowhere in the description) is *Marvel Universe vs The Punisher.* You know, for those who want to read the comic without having it spoiled by the video as they try to figure out which one he's talking about.

    • @lewismarte3325
      @lewismarte3325 11 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you

    • @vorshack8968
      @vorshack8968 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@lewismarte3325 Yeah, and now that I think about it, the title is total clickbait. And another channel gets blocked.

    • @stinkyface16
      @stinkyface16 11 месяцев назад +5

      Thank you!! It pissed me off it was nowhere to be found in the video or the video description.

    • @TheBatBoy
      @TheBatBoy 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, not sure what's happened in recent months, but he's started removing the titles of the comics in his video titles.. they're shorter and simplified now?

    • @paulhord8081
      @paulhord8081 10 месяцев назад

      Thank you very much for this!

  • @xavier_xplains7248
    @xavier_xplains7248 11 месяцев назад +210

    Love how Rob finds any opportunity to diss Black Bolt

    • @YTSORF
      @YTSORF 11 месяцев назад +2

      🎯

    • @CorporealFixation
      @CorporealFixation 11 месяцев назад +7

      I said the same thing. It's like Uncle Roger with Jamie Oliver; strays will be sent one way or another, lol.

  • @thegamerboneless2864
    @thegamerboneless2864 11 месяцев назад +137

    How the heck didn’t Spider-Man know he was about to be shot in the head 😂 crazy

    • @Noah-nk5og
      @Noah-nk5og 11 месяцев назад +58

      Plot convince

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 11 месяцев назад +5

      Spiderman ignored the warning, he was too busy celebrating to dodge.

    • @thegamerboneless2864
      @thegamerboneless2864 11 месяцев назад +48

      @@kappadarwin9476 he can’t ignore spidysence, I think like Noah said above plot convenience, writers had to kill and end it someway. 😂 😂 I just hate that Spider-Man always has to be the one nerfed 😂

    • @KellyCalKelsey
      @KellyCalKelsey 11 месяцев назад +1

      Real reason? The writer needed Pete to be incompetent, they needed to find a way to get him killed, my headcanon reason? Peter knew what was about to happen, he knew Frank was going to kill him, but he also knew that he was a monster that had to die, but not before he knew Mary Jane was safe, not before he could hold her one last time, when all was said and done, he willingly let himself get shot.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 11 месяцев назад +2

      Plot contrivance.

  • @EatinPaste
    @EatinPaste 11 месяцев назад +143

    In a world where Wolverine can be killed, broken into pieces, and eaten, Frank Castle can absolutely snap off one of Wolverine's claws.

    • @thefallencog
      @thefallencog 11 месяцев назад +40

      To be fair. Wolverine in the main marvel universe now is a jobber ever since Krakoa heavily nerfed him and laura's durability.
      He dies at least one or two times per major storyarc. Sometimes to the wind, often times to things that ordinarily wouldn't bother him. Hell. Just recently beast managed to kill wolverine with a butterknife.

    • @Malthizar
      @Malthizar 11 месяцев назад +6

      And shoot Spiderman in the head

    • @cooperhawk6716
      @cooperhawk6716 11 месяцев назад +18

      wolverine wasn't killed his arm was just ripped off. also in this universe they claim the hulk is the strongest he has ever been but feet's don't really back it up

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@thefallencog"sometimes to the wind" made me cackle 😂

    • @frenchbaguetteintelligence
      @frenchbaguetteintelligence 11 месяцев назад +9

      Wolverine didn't die. Frank thought he was dead because he disappeared. Hulk ripped off his arm and wore it like a necklace, but Wolverine survived the fight and grew back his arm.

  • @Streggae9961
    @Streggae9961 11 месяцев назад +7

    This title is so misleading. Punisher's the one who killed the Marvel Universe in this story on literally every level. It's the literal title of the story, Punisher being an impulsive idiot ended up being the catalyst for the plague and he's now literally going around killing everyone infected (which I imagine to be most of the world at this point).

  • @rowanmalcolm4816
    @rowanmalcolm4816 11 месяцев назад +491

    100% agree with Frank in this story. They had to die and sometimes it takes a monster to kill a monster

    • @jon-nl4zc
      @jon-nl4zc 11 месяцев назад +15

      I am legend.

    • @AllfatherBlack
      @AllfatherBlack 11 месяцев назад +26

      oh for sure he did the right thing overall and only he is "Frank" enough to pull all that off. otherwise thered still be a huge threat left in Manhattan. Castle solved that.

    • @jon-nl4zc
      @jon-nl4zc 11 месяцев назад +2

      Ever read I am legend?

    • @rowanmalcolm4816
      @rowanmalcolm4816 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@jon-nl4zc no I never watched or read it lol

    • @monkdonk4095
      @monkdonk4095 11 месяцев назад

      Says the Man that literally started this whole hell

  • @hunterknight5261
    @hunterknight5261 11 месяцев назад +21

    From the sounds of things, Peter Parker, Spider-Man, barely killed anyone of note. This isn't even a 'Spider-Man Kills the Marvel Universe' story, it's closer to a 'Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe' story. Punisher has the most confirmed named character kills under his belt, he's supposedly the reason the plague happened in the first place, hell he even gets the first and last on panel kills!

  • @rcditti
    @rcditti 11 месяцев назад +8

    take a shot anytime he says "basically" "essentially" or "pretty much"

  • @dragonleo2009
    @dragonleo2009 11 месяцев назад +69

    Hey Rob not sure if you will see this but this story is only 1 aspect of the whole. There are 3 stories that tie into this. You have "punisher vs the marvel universe" but you also have "wolverine vs the marvel universe" where it shows wolverines point of view during all these events and "avengers vs the marvel universe" where it follows Hawkeye and his point of view. All 3 have moments that intertwine with each other and even expand on other event's. Personally i feel wolverine vs the marvel universe was the best part but thats just me. From what i have seen from your channel you never covered wolverine or the avengers part of the story just Punisher. If you see this I really hope you cover those other 2 and do a "remaster" showing all 3 stories in chonilogical order. When you read all 3 its an amazing story

    • @bobjohnson1096
      @bobjohnson1096 9 месяцев назад +1

      I had no idea I have to check those out.

    • @boinkslumpy
      @boinkslumpy 8 месяцев назад +1

      I saw another video labeled wolverine kills the marvel universe a couple days ago, and today found this. I was so confused at first cause the events laid out the exact same, but it makes since now that you explained it how you did thanks man 🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @dragonleo2009
      @dragonleo2009 8 месяцев назад +1

      @boinkslumpy anytime glad my comment was informative 😃

  • @Tainted_Human
    @Tainted_Human 11 месяцев назад +32

    The way Tony went out to me is both a cop out but also just unsettling.
    The comic itself mentions his suit is meant to be able to keep the infection out. But it...still gets in? Also why wouldn't Tony be in a bunker somewhere working with like Reed while using remote piloting instead of putting himself out there.
    It may just be me, but i kinda want to see a apocalypse scenario where Tony is the focus and we see his mindset as he acknowledges (in the words of his MCU self) he's just a man in a tin can but he then adds how he doesn't think he deserved to live while others fell. Although i do understand he would have a high chance of making a cure (look at his knowledge of Extremis) but I feel like a story about Tony making do with remaining resources, getting data to try and make a cure and fighting to survive in this apocalypse would be a fun story, they could even say Tony's exposure to Extremis wasn't reversed in this world and thus his altered biology was immune or something along the lines of the Extremis keeps it from having an effect

    • @cooperhawk6716
      @cooperhawk6716 11 месяцев назад +3

      in avengers vs the marvel universe tony was working with doom who claimed to have a cure and doom subrogated iron mans suit killing him.

  • @kamenrangerzeo8251
    @kamenrangerzeo8251 11 месяцев назад +41

    10:40 "Even black bolt, but it really doesn't matter anyway cuz Black Bolt sucks." 😂🤣 only Rob can say that line with a straight face.

  • @markmckenzie9074
    @markmckenzie9074 10 месяцев назад +4

    They literally spidey sense off just so the punisher could actually kill Spider-Man. There’s 0 way Spider-Man trusted Punisher enough for it not to work and people got full sentences out before Punisher even shot. Crazy

  • @truexchaosx6099
    @truexchaosx6099 11 месяцев назад +19

    Wolverine is still around, just missing a arm that he later is shown he had regrown. Hes out by Iron Fists place

    • @IsThatNas
      @IsThatNas 11 месяцев назад

      this story has a pt.2?

    • @truexchaosx6099
      @truexchaosx6099 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@IsThatNas wolverine kills yhe marvel universe

    • @IsThatNas
      @IsThatNas 11 месяцев назад

      @@truexchaosx6099 thanks

    • @johnaiwone6012
      @johnaiwone6012 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@truexchaosx6099 Nope its Wolverine vs the Marvel Universe

  • @strikermodel
    @strikermodel 5 месяцев назад +6

    Susan Storm killing Franklin is literally just "we need him gone to have a story." There was no logical reason to kill him. She could have simply asked him "hey, can you wave your hand and revert all that happened and make the plague go away?" And it would have happened, especially with his sister's genius to help guide him.
    They definitely could have done a little bit more to explain it at least, like saying Susan got infected and killed him for food at least.

  • @SoloQueueSuffering
    @SoloQueueSuffering 9 месяцев назад +6

    Damn well that ending is anticlimactic. Every single time Spider-Man dies in a comic like this, he always dies by a gunshot that he could have easily dodged if it wasn't for writers forgetting he has Spider-Sense.

  • @jarrettwhitlow8700
    @jarrettwhitlow8700 11 месяцев назад +9

    One of my favorite What-Ifs of all time, Rob. Can’t wait to see it all covered!

  • @SpicyClover
    @SpicyClover 11 месяцев назад +10

    "It's a comic book, who cares, go with it." Oh boy that quote needs to be preached.

  • @evermoore66665
    @evermoore66665 11 месяцев назад +20

    Plot twist Dopinder turns out to be the Indian Spiderman.

    • @tamedthethreebears
      @tamedthethreebears 11 месяцев назад +3

      HA ! I understand that reference 😂

    • @wugglesx
      @wugglesx 11 месяцев назад

      And all his hero philosophy is learned from dp's cab rides.

  • @thanosd5809
    @thanosd5809 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great job as always. Thanks for this.

  • @ProfArmitage218
    @ProfArmitage218 11 месяцев назад +24

    Kingpin's power comes from his criminal empire and his social and political influence. In a post-apocalyptic setting he wouldn't have those and he would just be a big guy who's well trained in hand-to-hand combat. If the tribes follow the strongest leader, any of the superhumans could have killed him and taken his place.

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah yeah yeah just a fat mobster... just a guy that has physically out strengthed tank lifing characters like Spider-man, Tombstone, Dr. Doom, Hammerhead and Dr. Octopus.

    • @johng6950
      @johng6950 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@IStevenSeagal still not bullet-proof....and plenty of super-powerered heroes that could still kill him without having to get into melee range. Also plenty that could kill him in melee range (Hulk or any number of super-powered ones)

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal 11 месяцев назад

      @@johng6950 ....and also classic Scorpion and classic Rhino(Spider-man TAS for reference).

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal 11 месяцев назад

      @@johng6950 And smacking symbiote Spider-Man from pillar to pillar in SM 3 game.

    • @Julian-qj7pl
      @Julian-qj7pl 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@IStevenSeagal bro Spider-Man is literally leagues ahead of Kingpin he has to hold back to not kill him. There’s a comic where Spider-Man gets serious and basically beats him half to death no difficult.

  • @THELIFEOFVIEWS1
    @THELIFEOFVIEWS1 11 месяцев назад +9

    Just wanna thank Rob, I’ve learned so much over the years from your videos. Keep up the amazing work brother 🙌🏾

  • @kallel6588
    @kallel6588 11 месяцев назад +8

    The plot hole here was that spiderman's spidersense should have alerted him. Especially since it was right in front of him.

  • @AlBlountDotCom
    @AlBlountDotCom 11 месяцев назад +1

    F$%#^ing love your videos! The one that made me a fan was the infinity story you did back in like 2013...Love you bro!

  • @tacobeartaco7140
    @tacobeartaco7140 11 месяцев назад +12

    Castle didn’t need to “break” Wolverine’s claw off. He could have disarticulated the claw out.

  • @Eldritch_Mothman
    @Eldritch_Mothman 11 месяцев назад +8

    Rob, PLEASE do the other 2 stories. In this series, Avengers and Wolverine vs. the Marvel Universe. It would make me so happy

  • @XFG_Official
    @XFG_Official 11 месяцев назад +8

    Always have a love hate relationship with how these "bad ending universes: always need to find a way to take out Wolverine that 616 Logan just wouldn't be the victim of. Like his healing just kinda stopping in the Brood version of Marvel Zombies, or his durability getting all wonky so that Hulk can tear him limb from limb (something which I'm almost certain 616 Hulk has admitted he full on *can't* do) and Punisher of all people can break adamantium. Yeah there are characters you need to get rid of to let these one off alternate universe stories actually occur, but it always feels really cheap when you see *how* they're removed from the story.
    Granted, it is nice they acknowledge that he can regrow limbs if need be.

    • @shortybo2164
      @shortybo2164 11 месяцев назад +1

      Funny part is wolverine is still alive in this universe.

    • @XFG_Official
      @XFG_Official 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@shortybo2164 I did learn after this that there's several runs in this universe, so I did see that he made it out alive. But I feel like my point still stands, since he did still get his arm torn off and his claw snapped. But I am glad they didn't go all the way and discard him to make the story happen.

    • @shortybo2164
      @shortybo2164 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@XFG_Official ya it does

  • @radostinstaykov
    @radostinstaykov 11 месяцев назад +28

    So , Spiderman can turn a whole universe into cabalistic monsters , outsmart and outfight the biggest threats the marvel universe has to offer , yet he can't dodge a bullet , guess the spidey sense left the chat that day

    • @exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen
      @exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen 11 месяцев назад +18

      Writers try not to undermine Spider-man challenge (impossible difficulty)

    • @jdirksen
      @jdirksen 10 месяцев назад

      Honestly, I'm on board with the idea he let Frank kill him in that state, given how he was still a threat to everything.

    • @DanRyzESPUK
      @DanRyzESPUK 5 дней назад

      It was Punisher to unleash the virus, Spidey was patient zero.

  • @chiefcoiler
    @chiefcoiler 11 месяцев назад +9

    Oh come on! This doesn't count as a kills the marvel universe story! You got me all excited that they actually made one!

  • @Blooperscooper.
    @Blooperscooper. 11 месяцев назад +8

    There are actually 2 more stories to this
    One following Wolverine's perspective
    And the perspective of the heroes who tried to fight the infection head on in NY as a last stand
    I recommend covering the Wolverine perspective one because it's the most interesting and shows what happened in the battle of brooklyn
    Edit: It also shows (if I remember correctly) that the claw actually broke off in a different way in his perspective, not the bullshit that was "frank used a tank"

  • @lavuntecolquitt
    @lavuntecolquitt 11 месяцев назад +2

    SHEESH! Still a good story, glad you touched on this one again Rob my man! Stay BEASTLY

  • @trippytigertony5520
    @trippytigertony5520 11 месяцев назад +1

    God I've been waiting for you or comicstorian to do this one for years 😂😂😂

  • @KrazyStargazer
    @KrazyStargazer 11 месяцев назад +205

    I would actually like to see Spiderman genuinely "eradicate the Marvel Universe" but like intentionally.
    I think he could pull it off too.
    1) His connections. He is known and respected by most superhero teams
    2) His scientific mind. He is one of the fastest and most versatile thinkers on the planet. He can basicly think while he fights
    3) His powers. While he isn't the heavy-duty hitter in Marvel he can definitely hold his own.
    I think that the only thing that keeps him from doing this is his sence of responsibility.
    But everyone has a breaking point. I think maybe a villian finally takes out everyone Spidey cares about. Spidey looses it and decides to take "ultimate" responsibility and take over the world.

    • @chaosspear0195
      @chaosspear0195 11 месяцев назад +18

      Well if we get a Knull / Peter Parker with the power of the king in black to it full potential a power to rival Beyonder his Spider sense amped up to nearly cosmic awareness trough the symbiote multiversal hive mind and the ability of the venom from Venom The end story line to be able to assimilate anyone and replicate there power though what we now know are the codex there would be pretty much no stopping him.
      The Eventually said that Peter was tailor made to be the King in black meaning he would be able to handle the power of the title in full. A What if of a Spiderman who stayed with the symbiote to the point of reaching the final stage of a king in black and going nuts with the responsibility would be awesome.

    • @KrazyStargazer
      @KrazyStargazer 11 месяцев назад +3

      @ChaosSpear019 I think at this point the symbiote is more...Venom's thing.
      So that sennario would apply more to Eddie Brock.
      Besides Peter usually doesn't rely on things like the symbiote. I think he'd use some kind of tech gizmo

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 11 месяцев назад +2

      But would his connections help him do that? Amongst normal Earthbound heroes maybe he could do it though there's definitely some that would require writers conveniently sabotaging them.

    • @KrazyStargazer
      @KrazyStargazer 11 месяцев назад +11

      @Primary Bith Punisher and Deadpool have managed to take over the Marvel universe. Despite being overpowered they use what they know of the heroes to over power them.
      I think Spidey could manage that even better given he's even more clever then them

    • @blazekeaveny645
      @blazekeaveny645 11 месяцев назад +3

      If Spiderman did kill the marvel universe, I would imagine he might get some help maybe, might see dead pool or some villains fill the ranks. Maybe it will be a superior Spiderman story, with Spiderman being taken over by venom or Doc ock, I think its plausible

  • @w1984t
    @w1984t 11 месяцев назад +5

    Never heard of this story until I found the entire run in a Punisher section of discount comics. I love the Punisher and love this iteration of Marvel Zombies. Thanks for giving it some love

  • @poke-lanche5284
    @poke-lanche5284 11 месяцев назад

    Love your content man, well done!! This is a great story!

  • @tjdoesit8098
    @tjdoesit8098 11 месяцев назад

    This was great ❤could you also cover the two tie-in storys that dropped with this as we'll

  • @ludoletono
    @ludoletono 11 месяцев назад +5

    Just the fact of having Multiple Man in these mass infection scenario stories is reason enough to know all hope is lost.

  • @a.j.m8264
    @a.j.m8264 11 месяцев назад +13

    Wolverines side of this story is definitely my favorite of the three.

    • @billyburger100
      @billyburger100 11 месяцев назад +6

      Thats the one i had, i was confused when i seen this video. I didn’t know their are more parts to this story

    • @chrisgialamas6293
      @chrisgialamas6293 11 месяцев назад

      What is this story called??

    • @a.j.m8264
      @a.j.m8264 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@chrisgialamas6293 it’s called “Marvel Universe Vs. Wolverine”

  • @bobjohnson1096
    @bobjohnson1096 9 месяцев назад

    I picked up a few of these because they looked cool. I never hunted down every issue. Thank you for the video!

  • @konflicted1729
    @konflicted1729 11 месяцев назад

    Another great video bro

  • @nickbraam7274
    @nickbraam7274 11 месяцев назад +5

    Wolverines claws are attached to muscles and ligaments that slide in and out of his forearms and nestle between the radius and ulna. They are separate bones from the ones in his arm and to remove them just rip the soft tissue no breaking of bones needed

  • @percnowitzki2782
    @percnowitzki2782 11 месяцев назад +4

    This is honestly way more interesting than what I expected I originally thought it was spider man get a mad about something and decided to show ppl he is one of the most formidable characters in Marvel

  • @DDuMas
    @DDuMas 11 месяцев назад

    comicsexplained is THE BEST comics guy on RUclips.
    I always have a chuckle at his enthusiasm. "And it's AMAZING". 😅 Makes him a cut above the rest in my opinion. You just feel his passion for comics.

  • @Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers
    @Mad_Jimmy_Jaspers 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'd love to see a tier list of Marvel's cosmic hierarchy. Reality warpers, gods and cosmic entities, characters with insane power ups, all ranked. Astral Regulator Thanos, The One Above All, HOTU Thanos, White Phoenix of the Crown, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, the Living Tribunal, God Emperor Doom, Matthew Malloy, Chaos King, Mad Jim Jaspers, the Marquis of Death. Nobody off limits. It'd be cool trying to determine if Franklin Richards could beat Michael Korvac, or who's stronger between Rune King Thor and Chaos War Hercules.
    A video like that would be pretty long, and would have to cover something like 50 characters or more I'd imagine, so it's a big ask. A lot of them would be characters you've already covered in the Beyond Omega Level series, it would just be a matter of ranking them. That would be insanely awesome and I think if there's a guy on RUclips who can do it, it's you.

  • @blazingmonolith4323
    @blazingmonolith4323 11 месяцев назад +12

    Iron man suffered a cruel fate, this story was insane! Man its hard to say what hasn't already been said about Frank's character, hes always been interesting. Spider-man as the villain was fun, seems like the entire incident was Frank's fault in the beginning though.

  • @pinoyjona
    @pinoyjona 11 месяцев назад +7

    20:58 Even if the Spider-Sense wasn’t around, there was enough time for Spider-Man to realize Frank is gonna pull out a gun

  • @user-dy9et6kl8y
    @user-dy9et6kl8y 11 месяцев назад

    Hello this is my first time commenting. I have followed comics explained for a few years now. This story was so great along with the narration that I had to. Great job man!

  • @Jimmycoolboyepic
    @Jimmycoolboyepic 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think the reason frank was able to break off one of wolverine’s claws is because his bones started to rot after awhile and made his bones a lot weaker and easier to break

  • @disturbed_puppy
    @disturbed_puppy 11 месяцев назад +58

    In defense of him breaking off the claw, adamantium is very hard, but hard metals are brittle. With the right leverage, it's possible that he could snap one.

    • @johng6950
      @johng6950 11 месяцев назад +17

      Adamantium is more than just a hard metal....it's known in the comics for being nearly indestructible. Given the amount of punishment that Wolverine has endured, he would've had broken bones from many fights with super-powered beings and cosmic entities way stronger than the leverage of a modern army vehicle and the muscle power of a normal human.
      It's just poor writing. If they really wanted to go for it they simply could have realized that tendons, ligaments, and sinew are simply organic and not adamantium. No need for a contrived reason he was able to break a piece of adamantium.

  • @asrar39
    @asrar39 11 месяцев назад +10

    Its always interesting how they have to make some heroes weaker to kill them off in these kind of stories. Again just breaking wolverine apart or an arrow to the brain kills the hulk or again spider man could not dodge the bullet.

    • @asrar39
      @asrar39 11 месяцев назад

      @@TEXme-ko2io no thanks

  • @deannaluster3791
    @deannaluster3791 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this.

  • @michaelfournier8392
    @michaelfournier8392 11 месяцев назад

    Pretty sure when frank snipes those 2 in the yellow panels. It's Sam and twitch. Which would be a sick Easter egg. Love your videos! Keep at it. ❤

  • @TheTylerRobison
    @TheTylerRobison 11 месяцев назад +3

    Your coverage is the absolute best, Rob! Thanks for saving me money by worthless comic books! 😂

  • @ericdeocampo1265
    @ericdeocampo1265 11 месяцев назад +6

    I don’t understand how The Punisher was able to pull a gun out and shoot Spider-man when he survived against other foes due to his spider sense

  • @thomasgougeon2543
    @thomasgougeon2543 9 месяцев назад

    That was frakkin fantastic!!

  • @zacharypickering9202
    @zacharypickering9202 11 месяцев назад +2

    Best episode in awhile Rob you the man!

  • @shockwavethenewx-man9301
    @shockwavethenewx-man9301 11 месяцев назад +4

    Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)

  • @dr.veronica6155
    @dr.veronica6155 11 месяцев назад +3

    This was "Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe", right? I had this comic a while back.
    Also, I'm not totally sure Thor went back and infected Asgard. He didn't eat Ares and Hercules when he killed them, he just left. I assumed he killed the two of them because they were infected, then just left because saving the world was a lost cause at that point. I also wouldn't say it was *entirely* Frank's fault for what happened. If he hadn't stopped them, they'd have just released all this stuff themselves anyway. Ultimately, what should have happened was the normal superheroes should have known about what was being transported before the Punisher stopped it. It's partly his negligence at shooting the briefcase, and partly the rest of the heroes for letting something so dangerous get smuggled in without any of them knowing or doing anything about it. Last, I imagine what happened with Iron Man is that, after he became infected and changed inside his suit, he was either no longer in possession of the necessary intelligence to make the suit work, or alternatively the internal AI in the suit saw what happened and locked it up completely to make sure he couldn't hurt anybody.

    • @johng6950
      @johng6950 11 месяцев назад +1

      Saving the world wasn't a lost cause at that point. He left because the plot demanded there couldn't be someone that powerful and immune.
      Thor could have contacted the survivors working on a cure.
      Frank is a pretty good marksman....he could've killed the smugglers without destroying the briefcase. His fault plain and simple. If it had been a briefcase nuke or some other virulent real life infectious agent then he still would be the one at fault for risking the collateral damage.

  • @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
    @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 11 месяцев назад +2

    Adamantium being broken like that, I guess people would say that even if things such as adamantium that can stand heat and super strength and other metals, and things like that can not compete with natural things like water, and gravity, and different natural things like that.

  • @bumtee1223
    @bumtee1223 9 месяцев назад +2

    So, assuming this "bug" shut down all of the power, does this just mean his SUIT was drained of power or does this also include the arc reactor embedded in his chest? Either way, quite the agonizing fate for anyone to suffer through.

  • @tonysparks3387
    @tonysparks3387 11 месяцев назад +3

    I honestly would like more raw gritty stories like this

  • @TYGKO.
    @TYGKO. 11 месяцев назад +4

    Spider man mouth through his mask will never not tickle me lmaoo

  • @Saito232005
    @Saito232005 11 месяцев назад +2

    Punisher never fails to satisfy. True Frank Castle edict. Great book, Great read Rob

  • @rylog8
    @rylog8 11 месяцев назад +2

    The co.ic: yeah, so Spider-Man's spider-sense makes him essentially invulnerable just be dodging attacks
    Punisher: I got one bullet

  • @xiongboon
    @xiongboon 11 месяцев назад +3

    the story talks about Peter's 'spidy-senses' that he used to overcome the other heros, but it somehow didn't activate when Frank pulled a gun on him.....

  • @shaqodom2027
    @shaqodom2027 11 месяцев назад +4

    Only the real OG's know that rob remade this story from like 6-8 years ago.

  • @beneinstine6830
    @beneinstine6830 11 месяцев назад +2

    Punisher here probably got the thickest plot armor in existence. Like dude broke wolverines claw and shot Spiderman (bypassing spidey sense) both are almost imposible.

  • @aguborda
    @aguborda 11 месяцев назад +3

    YOU NEED TO DO THE WOLVERINE AND HAWKEYE PERSPECTIVE OF THIS STORIE ( WOLVERINE AND AVENGERS)

  • @XPert9000
    @XPert9000 11 месяцев назад +3

    Wouldn’t his spider sense have prevented that outcome?

  • @LarvaTubaShow
    @LarvaTubaShow 11 месяцев назад +1

    I 100% in love with this much effort they always made me and my family happy so
    I decided to put it on the TV and my whole family was laughing and enjoying it

  • @gavinhicks7621
    @gavinhicks7621 6 месяцев назад +2

    A couple possibilities to why the punisher was able to kill spiderman even with the spider sense
    1.) since punisher saved MJ, Peter might’ve seen him not as a threat anymore and so his spider sense didn’t go off (keep in mind this version of peter is “simplified”)
    2.) because the punisher is only set on infected and survivors/good and bad, the punisher was set on killing him from the start. This might’ve set off peters spider sense the entire time they were together. This means Peter would’ve had to ignore the constant sense of danger. With that being said, since he was ignoring his sense, the gun might’ve not made it go off.
    Peters spider-sense is capable of sensing all dangers and unconsciously reacting to dangers (think when doctor strange tried to take that thing from him in the movies and his spider-sense automatically made him move even though Peter was knocked out of his body). I’m not sure how exactly his spider sense works but I’m assuming it’s like a meter. It goes up depending on the level of danger a threat poses and spikes when something like a gun is shot, which is why he automatically reacts. The punisher could’ve left his sense spiked the whole time meaning when the gun was pulled there was no change in threat level.
    Just some thoughts

  • @echolocationn
    @echolocationn 11 месяцев назад +5

    That's a perfect world for The Punisher.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 11 месяцев назад +7

    Spider-Man time again.

  • @nevertellmethaoddz8581
    @nevertellmethaoddz8581 10 месяцев назад

    I’m a grown man with no time for comics like I used to have. I definitely appreciate this kind of content helping me hold on to it a bit

  • @gjfwang
    @gjfwang 8 месяцев назад

    One of the few comics where Spider-Man is happy

  • @baked7423
    @baked7423 11 месяцев назад +5

    while this story is depressing like others, i do like how this story isnt ur typical zombie story. It's cannibals and although primitive, can still reason. Usually I wouldnt believe Someone saying we will leave you alone which I like frank calls out on, but in this story they dont technically have to eat people or are forced to, It's just a want rather than a need. MJ is proof of that as well as the survivors.
    Also like how this story somewhat ends on a bittersweet note. There are survivors and with main tribes of the cannibals being taken out, frank stays behind to clean up the rest acknowledging he is a monster as well. I will say I do feel a bit sad for Spidey as it actually seemed like he was gonna keep his end of the deal but also yea spidey did kill people and heralded the beginning of this plague so I understand why frank did it. Sometimes to kill a monster u have to become one. Im guessing he decided to do that when MJ called him a good person because while he is doing good things like helping people, deep down he knew that it was for selfish reasons and is just killing people at the end of the day

    • @johng6950
      @johng6950 11 месяцев назад

      Frank heralded the beginning of the plague. He set these events in motion; Spider-Man was actually just among the first victims.

  • @fumeking701
    @fumeking701 11 месяцев назад +3

    Do the Wolverine POV of the story!

  • @karateman1988
    @karateman1988 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey this is one of the few comics I've actually read!
    I read all of the punisher serials.

  • @JohnBainbridge0
    @JohnBainbridge0 11 месяцев назад +2

    4:22 Thor getting possessed and still possessing Mjolnir is a plot hole. If he's possessed, he can't be worthy.

  • @jeromegreene8957
    @jeromegreene8957 11 месяцев назад +4

    Your hate for blackbolt is amusing.

  • @YourLifeWasting
    @YourLifeWasting 11 месяцев назад +3

    Should of had Franklin Richards, scarlet witch, and Dr doom to go back in time earlier before the virus pops up

  • @rookieassassin2425
    @rookieassassin2425 11 месяцев назад +2

    i like the fact at the part 10:40 deadpool and spider man's heads are not there and they are the two best friends as superheros

  • @isaactippetts882
    @isaactippetts882 9 месяцев назад

    That song in the background. Idk if it is there the whole time. But I heard scar's super fast build mode song

  • @ellishotomani1462
    @ellishotomani1462 11 месяцев назад +17

    Loved this story. The Wolverine vs and Avengers vs stories gave us another view of this tragedy.

  • @gotnukes5319
    @gotnukes5319 11 месяцев назад +3

    So you mean to tell me, the reason spider man survived was cause of how broken his spider sense is, and by the end, he dies from a gun, while doing nothing? Guess spider sense didn't kick in....gun shots are reality warping level!