Anyone who is not familiar with how Gambit was first written won't understand. He's been watered down considerably since the early 90's. He was fast enough to block bullets with his staff, super agile, and had a charm power. He's beaten Wolverine in a fight, though he fought dirty, but it's against Wolverine so... He's been depicted catching an RPG in mid flight and tossing it back at the shooter.
It was more than just a charm power, they have had him penetrate I'm going to say jean grey but maybe it was psylocke, one of the xmens telepaths and implant the image of a card which the telepath in question said was in the deepest most protected part of their mind. When fighting skrull professor X, professor X could not grab onto his mind as it was too elusive. The block bullets with a staff one I kind of laugh at as the first time it was depicted like 2 panels later ice man hit him in the head with a snow ball. What is weird about watering him down so much is even as he was written he'd be weaker than what they turned so many x-characters into. Oh ice man is now living ice who can wipe out the planet if he wants, diamond skin powers on white queen etc. Everyone else got ridiculous upgrades, and i say ridiculous as you just can;t write believable stories around characters that powerful. But Gambit who was never insanely OP, they nerf.
@@jrob4795Precisely, it's no different than an African American defendant versus a Caucasian Plaintiff in a court of law. It's anInstant win for the white plaintiff, even if it's the wrong defendant. Mutants have always and no matter how many piggy backers try to change the narrative have always and will always be an allegory/Stand-In for African Americans ( [Foundational Black Americans or The American Descendants of Slavery] not stand-ins for any other groups).
On paper, story, plot, fanfare aside, gambit takes this and its not even close. The man is essentially pure fkn energy but due to the constraints of the plot, the writers need to tone him down a bit. Dude is really like an omega level mutant on the low. Cap simply just gets more shine, so he won. Politics my boy.
Gambit charging Cap's shield...I saw that coming and was still pleasantly surprised. It's a throwable attachment. Gambit's whole thing is charging up throwables 😂
I kinda laughed at it. He was quick enough to dodge the shield, catch the shield. But not a shield tackle. 2 of those items require reaction speed than moving faster than a car at 60mph.
I don’t think Marvel would ever allow Gambit to beat Cap but I do think they made him less of a viable threat due to the length of these short stories. Gambit is my favorite comic character of all time though & it would’ve been nice to see him actually be shown as more than the joke he was in this fight.
Facts. He's my favorite right before Superman especially since I'm from Louisiana. Gambit is an omega level mutant who literally beat his alternate universe full power form who beat the Phoenix solo. That tells you how unbelievably powerful he is. They always do him dirty
Same for me. He is my favorite superhero and I can't stand that people, even Marvel writers, constantly underestimate him or write him to be weaker than he actually is. Gambit could definitely whoop Cap's ass. This battle is nonsense.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj facts he's an omega level mutant with fighting skills. I like Cap but he'd definitely get his ass whooped without Gambit using a fraction of his real power
Gambit is my 2nd favorite comics character and I feel you, he is one of these agile character with good reflexes, fighting skills and energy based power. He is supposed to be a serious threat to Cap. And he is French so it makes me love him even more lol
Can you imagine if they included the X-Men in avengers, and had Gambit charge up Thanos's Gauntlet in order to destroy it? Or charge up Mjölnir when Captain America threw it?
Same. I almost feel like it’s been retconned or something. I remember him and wolverine playing basketball and them mentioning his agility as part of his mutant abilities.
I could be wrong but Isn't Gambit's superhuman agility supposed to be on par with a gold medal Olympian essentially The Best of the Best. Gambit is no slouch I'll never say that but cap is literally pumped full of juice that is designed to make him the peak human between that and his Superior tactical knowledge even if he was a little slower than Gambit he would still be able to plan far enough ahead to get the upper hand in a straight fight. It might have been different if they were actually trying to kill each other but cap doesn't set out to kill and I seriously doubt Gambit would want to be the one that actually killed Captain America, that's why only parts of his suit exploded.
@@insertfunnyhandlehere I would argue both Cap and Gambit have superhuman agility. In the case of Cap the super soldier serum puts him at peak human walking around, but with adrenaline or bloodlust his agility becomes superhuman. When we look at Gambit, his superhuman agility is mentioned numerous times in the Jim Lee run. I have the omnibus and it's mentioned by wolverine and rogue while playing basketball, also *Gladiator* of all people mentions it while they're fighting. Gladiator: *"Your agility saved you the last time we met"*
Gambit is the Quintessential Glass Cannon. He might have extreme explosive power and the Dexterity to land every shot but if his opponent can make contact then he is done.
I remember Rogue whooped him in their fight after Age of Apocalypse in X Men #45..the book that revealed Gambit was Sinister's lackey pre Mutant Massacre.
At that time the X-MEN could have been destroyed , but Rogue discovered this and stopped him before Gambit could initiate his plot! Somehow in the future Gambit will still commit some insane act that'll make Rogue wise up and leave his Cajon behind, then I hope they re-materialize Wonder Man, Rogue finally see's her equal in being a superhero, then that premonition I saw in 1981 will finally come full circle. According to premonition, Rogue and Wonder Man rise to true prominence in the superhero plane! When I had that premonition, I couldn't go around telling people for fear of being labled insane, but now it's beginning, Rogue is about to find out how truly heroic she really is and at first be afraid because drama and angst is always part of mutant life, but then she'll face Gambit one more time, then bring him in for his crimes against the X-MEN!
Most mutants even the strong betas/alphas don't have superhuman everything like Wolverine surprisingly. Some of them are still regular humans in certain areas. So it makes sense that a peak human like Captain America can wreck Gambit easily. Even in real life a big dude without fighting skills can still get his ass kicked by a small dude who is an elite MMA fighter.😂😂
@@markstriker925I like that though It's realistic when it comes to power set. Most fans that don't know power levels and storylines are mad that Gambit got beat by Cap, but it makes sense in a non-bias way being loyal to both characters.
What I think is kind of interesting about this is rob you did a video about the team up between Captain America and Wolverine during the weapons plus event. And in that one it was explaining that if Steve was still hanging around they would have used him as a super soldier manufacturing plant to combat against any of the mutants. But if there's one thing that Captain America has in Spades is a course his brilliant tactician like mine where he can analyze any important that he's fighting against adapt to their capabilities and use it against them.
I think Captain would win the fight but they didn’t give Gambit the skills he normally has to make this a memorable fight. Gambit is still my favorite between the two of them.
It pretty much depends on the writer and for what purpose he's using the characters, in this case Gambit was used to show just how " awesome " C. A is and that Gambit can't hold a candle to him creating inconsistency all over.
The way I see it is Caps serum gives him the advantage because it boosts his thought process speed. So he'd target and execute his moves before gambit can react, even if they have similar agility - gambit fan
@@khepribanfield9819 Ok no. That bullshit about the thought process speed always bothers me thanks to Hawkeye, he's a normal ass human who is not only incredible fast but accurate with his sight to the peek of human perfection, if the serum gave Cap even more than that how the heck is anyone capable of catching and throwing back his metal Frisbee? That's the inaccurate shit I always have a problem with comics .
I thought Gambit's staff was made of adamantium. Clearly this one was not. I definitely think Gambit should have had a better showing here. I remember thinking that the first time I read thru it.
Gambit forgot one of the most important dbd rules: Rogues aren't front line fighters. If he wanted the W, he was gonna need to out think Cap. Dunno if he could have pulled it off, but being deceptive instead of head on would've helped him last more than four panels of Caps attention at least.
In the comics, Cap's shield is unique Adamantium/Vibranium alloy. Gambit's power is turning an object's potential kinetic energy into explosive energy. That's why Gambit charging a card card causes less damage than if he charged and threw a baseball. The baseball has more potential with a larger mass and inertia when thrown to create much more kinetic energy than a card. Vibranium, however, absorbs energy and redirects it back at an equal opposing force when hit. That is why Cap blocking a hit from Thor's hammer doesn't break Cap's arm or mash Cap flat underneath the shield. It deprives whatever force energy Thor's hammer gives off with an opposite force in the other direction, robbing the potential kinetic energy of its potential. So, Gambit is unable to create any explosive force because the shield negates it. 1 + (-1) = 0
No issue with Cap winning but common on, he got his suit charged and they treated it like a love tap. That's practically like catching a grenade to the chest and he's walking it off like someone threw a basketball at him really hard. The shield catch and throw was awesome though.
@@Koooo4 that's what I'm saying. Gambit could've charged any object Steve had on him (including his helmet), he should at LEAST have some gaping wounds.
In the 92' Jim Lee Fleer X-Men Cards and as Seen in X-Men #4 or 5. During Gambit's basketball game against wolverine. Gambit has Super human agility. Glad you mentioned the hypnotisim. Infinity War Gambit doppleganger charged organics.
the obvious strat for Gambit, who should've practiced this idea daily, would be to charge Cap's shield, throw it and then immediately follow up with a fast attack like throwing his playing cards... never knew he had a hypnotic power
@@skarhead7597 those black and red eyes have to been for something. No matter how fine she is,if a woman came on to you with those eyes,it wouldn't freak you out???😆
Just like how Gambits fighting style is slept in Caps strength is as well. Canon wise 616 C.A. can lift around 2+ tons (he's thrown manhole covers, 80-160 lbs, as shield subs before) while Ultimate C.A. could lift & throw about 20-40 tons. So that strength & focused attack married with his above Olympic speed would KO Gambit that quick since the force woulda been about a base ball bat strike to the face! Gambit hasn't taken to many of those cause his face is money!
A punch from Cap is like getting smacked in the face by a 60 lb dumbbell... I'm not surprised that it would knock Gambit out. Although, Gambit with all of his skills, near superhuman agility, and Savate should have been able to dodge or deflect such a standard punch with ease. Cap would win in end, but it's doubtful it should have been this easy
Thanks for another good video Rob. Cap probably should have taken SOME damage from his suit exploding, beside his pride? Anyway... Bo = staff Bo staff = staff staff
I don’t think gambit could physically beat cap but gambit knows this and and I think gambit would have fought cap differently then this vs suggested and at least it would have been a longer more interesting and entertaining fight
This was so good!! Wow my two favorite comic book characters. The writing the illustrations dope and your commentary makes it that much better. Thanks bro! Another banger!! 🦸🏻♂️
I've been listening to you for years and have loved your dialogue, you have a beautiful voice and hope you do this more and loved your Silver Surfer Death edits. God bless
Think about it like this Wolverine can't outright beat Captain America. Although he doesn't have a healing factor(peak human healing) Captain America doesn't get tired. Just about every character you can think of will get tired before him.
Dudes a scrub that the writers jerk off. Realistically he should many be able to beat gambit nor many other meta humans. Dudes peak human with a shield lol. Not superhuman
Remember the winner is determined by the writer, it has NOTHING to do with power sets. skills or other abilities, so those arguing either side should note that.
omg rob 😂 I like how you can so tell when you aren’t satisfied with the result of a fight because its always “up for debate” or like “let me know who yall think would actually win” 😂
Captain America is often misunderstood as some normal guy that's just in peek physical condition, but if you look at the established limits to his strength, speed, etc he's actually sub-superhuman across the board, playing as a sort of Jack-of-all-trades. The idea that ANYONE without enhanced strength, speed, etc, like the Cap himself, can stand toe to toe with Steve Rogers is outrageous, so unless Gambit has above-human levels of ability, Rogers genuinely would mop the floor with Gambit. It wouldn't even be close. Imagine a man with more striking power than Mike Tyson who can ALSO run faster than Husan Bolt (spelling?), AND tougher than any kungfu monk breaking boards against his body, AND mastered most of, if not all of, the important martial art styles wanted to fight YOU. Think you'd stand a chance against that guy? Only things going for Gambit is his explosions and his staff, he has no chance of winning if not for those.
Very accurate. Even the tamest estimate of Steve Rodgers I have heard is peak Olympian in every aspect. So he can run as fast as Bolt, as long as a marathon runner, while throwing punches and kicks like the best martial artist. Oh, and he has decades of fighting experience so he can throw changeups too. He also has the reaction time and aim of skeet shooters. Oof. Gambit being a kickboxer works against him as well, since Steve can easily defeat the strengths and expose the weaknesses. Closing the distance, reacting to any outside strikes, taking any knee shots, and the whole time just overpowering Gambit with his fists.
Narratively speaking Steve Roger is what an Evolved human would be. He is seen holding up objects that weight tens of tons over his head, capable of sprinting along side high way traffic, dives depths way below anyone else every known without special gear, etc.. He even saw himself as a Super-Human thus the reason why he registered himself as one under the "Super Human Registration Act".
Well Gambit does have enhanced speed, strength, agility, stamina and reactions. In a fist fight he should lose but not that quickly. Especially not when using his other powers. Caps greatest ability is plot armor. He has whatever levels of power needed for the story. Cap has survived things that any non-superhuman shouldnt be able to survive. Like gambit blows up the suit he is wearing and the guy doesnt even have a scratch on him..
Gambit survived an encounter with Gladiator back in the 90s. Charged a full deck at once and machine gunned him. It was enough to get away from him. What we had in AVX was neither of these guys going all out.
As a gambit fan, it makes me happy gambit got a bit of spotlight here. So as far as my opinion on it, I think gambit can definitely hold his own with cap. Gambit wasn’t too serious here. I’d like a gambit solely focused on cap with no distractions and with his abilities ready to be in full display.
@@afro_princess1671 hey there. i see you tried it. look im being very conservative with my words here. just to engage with the theory crafting of the fight. take that hostility elsewhere.
The fact that Gambit charged Cap's armor and it didn't blow a hole in his chest the size of a watermelon is absurd. Cap doesn't have super tough skin or anything, he ain't bulletproof. NOR is he explosion proof. Gambit didn't even use all his abilities to their maximum extent. Plenty of non organic stuff he could have charged and blown Rogers to pieces. Rocks, his staff. Hell he could have taken off his own coat, charged it and draped it over Cap's face. BOOM!!! One headless "hero" down.
But then if Rogue finds out Gambit killed Captain America, she would divorce Gambit right away! She's an Avenger now, Captain America is Professor Xavier's friend, Professor X would turn Gambit in and even though it would be tough for Rogue in the end we know she''ll choose right over wrong, she would not try to hide Gambit because look how much she's had to go through earning the trust of X-MEN and Avengers. She's worked extra hard to get to where she's at and now she's a icon among her teamates. You don't throw that away even for a spouse!
Awesome play-by-play Rob. Both of these men are two among my favorite Marvel Knights, although I think Gambit could've lasted longer, Steve Roger's is comparatively stronger than LeBeau, but Remy is extremely agile...almost equal to someone like the Black Panther! The second generation Marvel Collector card listed Gambit's agility as a 4 or 5 out of 7 if I remember correctly. All power levels of Marvel characters are rated out of 7. Just in case you never collected them from '91-'93.
I've always said that Cap's superpower is not the obvious. Sure, Cap was given the super soldier serum, which increased his abilities to peak human levels across the board. However, all of those flashy upgrades that are apparent to everyone around him are merely incidental. And like all other heroes, his true power will occasionally fail him only to come back at the most dire moment. Because, no matter the odds, the number of setbacks or the size of the opposition, his true super power is: Cap wins.
Cap is the supreme war tactican . The Only one in Marvel that can lead on an equal playing field is Cyclops . One on one with Cap is trouble for anyone BUT that being said ... His enhanced abilities definitely assisted in the one banger that put Gambit to sleep here .😂😂😂
Cap is superhuman, he's peak human walking around, but with adrenaline and bloodlust, he becomes superhuman. I think the MCU films did a good job of demonstrating this.
Digging these alot brother. I only get spawn spiderman and venom right now so I appreciate the X-Men videos the most. Helps me revisit or dive into books I can't get.
Captain America winning against Gambit is a joke. Gambit is very OP.. With a physical touch, he can either explode things or tear it apart. Not to mention that his ability to tap energy grants him speed, reflexes, strength, agility etc. He can hypnotise his opponents, put them to sleep or even disrupt their brain etc. The dude oneshotted classic Juggernaut. That says it all.
In my opinion, Gambit is underrated as a hand-to-hand combatant. Don't get me wrong, I know that he can hold his own and then some,otherwise he wouldn't last like he has done. The real test for the Cajun would be to face fighters who are just as good if not better: Shang-Chi,Taskmaster, Iron Fist,Karnak,etc. The fight between Gambit and Captain America was a showcase of sorts;in which the reader gets sucked in,seeing from a safe distance. To witness every punch, kick, throw and tackle ,the reader knows that it has to end, but hoping that it doesn't. The outcome of the fight isn't a surprise: Captain America has fought enhanced and super-powered beings for much of his publication history, but it seems that Gambit had almost pushed the super soldier to his limit. If it wasn't for his attention being divided, Captain America might have finished the fight that much sooner. That is my thoughts on the matter...what are yours?
Yeah... These fights are definitely having the avengers win because they need them to win for the story not because that's actually how a fight would go down.
I got hit by my friend with a few months of boxing training and it felt like a car ran into my bicep. A no holds barred punch from Cap straight to he chin should be lethal with that comparison in my mind.
They would never try to kill each other, too much blowback. Cap always try's to go easy on you at first, also because he's way older and has a grandfather's gentleness too him, but if you piss him off all the years of experience, fighting styles and super soldier serum are unbeatable. This is no contest, Gambit LOSES!!!
While I would agree with you, under normal circumstances Cap would beat Gambit. However, the way this specific fight played out the result would be Cap either being unconscious, in critical condition, or dead. Cap in the 616 is not superhuman, he has no invulnerability, and Gambit just caused an explosion equal to more than a grenade right against his unprotected chest.
@@jormungaurd I'd like to assume that Gambit was trying not to hurt him too much and wished to stun or soften him up more to even the field then give him a knock out blow.
@IStevenSeagal He is peak human durability, it is not superhuman. Yes, he is more durable than normal humans, but his durability isn't superhuman. The Super Soldier Serum made him into a peak human specimen, think of it as a step above Olympic Level Athlete, but not quite on the superhuman level. This is just looking at the 616 version of the character. Some version of Cap, such as the Ultimates version, were given superhuman levels of strength and durability but the 616 version of the comics was not. Remember Gambit's power makes things explode based on the mass of what was changed. Just a playing card explodes with the power equal to a hand grenade. So something with the mass of Cap's tunic would cause a heck of a lot more damage. Even with peak human durability Cap wouldn't be walking away after an explosion right up against his chest without a scratch on him. Usually, when Cap faces an explosion like this he has his armor to protect him, in this case, it's his armor itself that's exploding so it wouldn't provide any protection.
@IStevenSeagal The MCU, to a point, is based on the Ultimates comics where Cap does have some superhuman attributes. In mainstream 616 comics, Cap isn't superhuman according to Marvel Comics official description. According to the description, Cap is a step above Olympic-level athletes but not quite superhuman.
When you got a guy who’s a master tactician, top tier martial artist, has enhanced mental processing and reflexes and could bench a bus I would think a single punch is all he needs if he was focused
As someone thats been a Big fan of Gambit since the 90's, i think this fight was pretty accurate. Like Rob was saying, fighting Captain America while he's multitasking is *ENTIRELY* different than fighting a Captain America thats *Focused* lol Dont forget, not only is Cap a *Master Tactician,* but he's ALSO a Super Soldier thats prodigious in several different fighting styles......I'd argue this is Very similar to how an acual fight between these two would go, Especially since neither were *Planning* on this fight, they simply ran into each other 🤔
He may have the Super Soldier serum, but it doesn't make him superhuman in the 616. According to Marvel Comics Cap is not superhuman, he is peak human. Having an explosion going off against his unprotected chest, since it's literally his armor that is exploding, would have killed him. According to Marvel the power of the explosions from Gambit's charged items is dependent on the mass of the item. The type of armor Cap wears once charged would have been more than enough to blow Cap to pieces, since Gambit's playing cards have the explosive capacity of a grenade.
Let us not forget that they were also fighting to incapacitate the other. Cap would not kill Gambit under any means because.. its Steve rogers man. And Gambit would not kill Steve rogers, Captain America. He has a degree of respect for the guy and what he stands for, its just something they both disagree on, so its fisticuffs. And Cap is MILES better at disarming and incapacitating a foe than Gambit, as much as I love Remy. If Gambit was more ruthless? Then it would be Cap vs New Sun. And we were already given how that goes.
@@TheRouza I agree he wouldn't intentionally attempt to kill him. My point is that Cap wouldn't be getting up completely unscathed. But let's be truthful the explosion was enough that it destroyed almost the entirety of his tunic, that large of an explosion that close to his chest would nearly kill a normal human. So Cap getting back up after the explosion like it was just an inconvenience is ridiculous.
I mean, Cap is always a shoo in for wins. But they really played Gambit wrong on this. Every X Men is a danger or menace for a reason. That's why Xavier hand picked them for his personal team. Gambit not matching Cap's strength or even over powering him was kinda offbeat. He cahrge himself. Give himself enhanced strength. Just not to others/organics. Or he could have out maneuvered or even matched Caps agility. Caps only physical feat he, probably, has over Gambit is stamina. Talking about who has fought Wolverine, Sabertooth and Apocalypse AND walked away with his life.
Gambit’s stock has really dropped since the ‘90s. In his peak popularity and Cap’s lowest level, writers would’ve likely let Gambit win or at least show even better. Cap would’ve been knocked out from the charged chain mail. Hell, Gambit killed the Tithe Collector in the fourth issue of his first mini series by charging his tenchcoat.
New Sun was one hell of a ride back when Wolverine and Gambit shared a comic together, It was his final run before it was switched to Wolverine and Deadpool.
Rob, talked about Gambit being able to suggest as a power ignoring the powers Captain America holds, inspiration, admiration and respect. It is hard for people to go against people they admire, respect and are inspired by. Did Gambit hold back (more than likely), in various times of crisis Captain America is the ralley caller, the one whose leadership inspires the Marvel heroes to fight harder. So pause for a bit, and think about it. Awesome telling as usual, loved it.
I would say Gambit gave Cap the challenge that would put all distractions aside. Once a fighter like Cap is fully focused one on one it would be over just that fast. Cap's power, speed & ability to read his opponent after a few 'feeler' exchanges & Cap would just drive right through Gambit's defenses & get the KO.
Four panels?! I've had Gambit vs. Captain America fights on Marvel vs. Capcom last longer than that! I do remember thinking Cap was being disrespectful to Gambit by not giving him attention the first time I read this fight.
Absolutely nobody is as bigger Gambit Stan than i am... that being said... he lost this fight before it started. Cap is the last person you want to fight with arrogance or over confidence. He is powerful enough to beat Cap... but Cap just got that glow when he is determined and doesn't have time; let alone if you manage to force him to step up his game. Hurts... but it's nothing less or more than i would expect from either of them at that time.
This whole series made the X-men look like a joke. Gambit has fought and beat Sabretooth before. I know Cap is the best but Gambit shouldnt have been taken out this fast
I feel like Gambit would have had the W if it was a real 1v1. My beef regarding these AVX was that they were fast and sloppy. but I do think Cap v Gambit was the most creative one and realist comic wise we saw.
You are the best Rob can you please do a story on the iperal guard of the shi ar and it members they are very powerful and caught my attention when they fought the X-men over the life of Jean Greay thank you
Yes the greasy sleazy Cajun that throws stuff well that goes Boom vs the worlds ultimate fighting machine with a shield that says NO to most everything. 😂
Anyone who is not familiar with how Gambit was first written won't understand.
He's been watered down considerably since the early 90's.
He was fast enough to block bullets with his staff, super agile, and had a charm power.
He's beaten Wolverine in a fight, though he fought dirty, but it's against Wolverine so...
He's been depicted catching an RPG in mid flight and tossing it back at the shooter.
It was more than just a charm power, they have had him penetrate I'm going to say jean grey but maybe it was psylocke, one of the xmens telepaths and implant the image of a card which the telepath in question said was in the deepest most protected part of their mind. When fighting skrull professor X, professor X could not grab onto his mind as it was too elusive.
The block bullets with a staff one I kind of laugh at as the first time it was depicted like 2 panels later ice man hit him in the head with a snow ball.
What is weird about watering him down so much is even as he was written he'd be weaker than what they turned so many x-characters into. Oh ice man is now living ice who can wipe out the planet if he wants, diamond skin powers on white queen etc. Everyone else got ridiculous upgrades, and i say ridiculous as you just can;t write believable stories around characters that powerful. But Gambit who was never insanely OP, they nerf.
Honestly with what Rob said in this video about the alternate gambit along with this stuff, pretty crazy he's been nerfed that hard
Gambit is so slept on, always been one of my favorite characters
I originally saw him in an x-men video game, he became one of my favorite characters then because he oozes style and I like his powers.
This is simply the writers at work. Gambit matches up WELL with cap and thats an understatement tbh.
yep. he could just throw stuff at him
You know when it’s Cap vs anybody the writers are always going to make Cap win.
@@jrob4795Precisely, it's no different than an African American defendant versus a Caucasian Plaintiff in a court of law. It's anInstant win for the white plaintiff, even if it's the wrong defendant.
Mutants have always and no matter how many piggy backers try to change the narrative have always and will always be an allegory/Stand-In for African Americans ( [Foundational Black Americans or The American Descendants of Slavery] not stand-ins for any other groups).
lol in what world? Everyone knows Cap is not going to lose to some nobody like Gambit.
On paper, story, plot, fanfare aside, gambit takes this and its not even close. The man is essentially pure fkn energy but due to the constraints of the plot, the writers need to tone him down a bit. Dude is really like an omega level mutant on the low. Cap simply just gets more shine, so he won. Politics my boy.
Gambit charging Cap's shield...I saw that coming and was still pleasantly surprised. It's a throwable attachment. Gambit's whole thing is charging up throwables 😂
I always wanted to see Bullseye with the shield.
@@CharlieComicsOfficialgoing to be a lot of decapitation going around man is a beast!
I kinda laughed at it. He was quick enough to dodge the shield, catch the shield. But not a shield tackle. 2 of those items require reaction speed than moving faster than a car at 60mph.
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@@DirtCheapFUI assume he expect it. Similar how Batman some how dodge bullet
I don’t think Marvel would ever allow Gambit to beat Cap but I do think they made him less of a viable threat due to the length of these short stories. Gambit is my favorite comic character of all time though & it would’ve been nice to see him actually be shown as more than the joke he was in this fight.
Facts. He's my favorite right before Superman especially since I'm from Louisiana. Gambit is an omega level mutant who literally beat his alternate universe full power form who beat the Phoenix solo. That tells you how unbelievably powerful he is. They always do him dirty
Same for me. He is my favorite superhero and I can't stand that people, even Marvel writers, constantly underestimate him or write him to be weaker than he actually is. Gambit could definitely whoop Cap's ass. This battle is nonsense.
@@ItachiUchiha-ut6xj facts he's an omega level mutant with fighting skills. I like Cap but he'd definitely get his ass whooped without Gambit using a fraction of his real power
Gambit is my 2nd favorite comics character and I feel you, he is one of these agile character with good reflexes, fighting skills and energy based power. He is supposed to be a serious threat to Cap. And he is French so it makes me love him even more lol
@@nuabe8285 Haha he's not French, he's Cajun.
Gambit charging Caps shield NEEDS TO BE ON THE BIG SCREEN !
Dude, I would pay to see that 😇
Can you imagine if they included the X-Men in avengers, and had Gambit charge up Thanos's Gauntlet in order to destroy it? Or charge up Mjölnir when Captain America threw it?
@@maxgeckos That's something to think about; I mean, Caps shield, sure it will exploded. But if Gambit charges up Mjölnir, will it be destroyed🤔
@@1TheBatman is Gambit's power greater than the heart of a Dying star?
@@maxgeckos Great question, will have to do some research on this one. Or maybe @comicsexplain can hook us up 😇
People seem to forget about Gambits superhuman agility
Same. I almost feel like it’s been retconned or something. I remember him and wolverine playing basketball and them mentioning his agility as part of his mutant abilities.
I could be wrong but Isn't Gambit's superhuman agility supposed to be on par with a gold medal Olympian essentially The Best of the Best. Gambit is no slouch I'll never say that but cap is literally pumped full of juice that is designed to make him the peak human between that and his Superior tactical knowledge even if he was a little slower than Gambit he would still be able to plan far enough ahead to get the upper hand in a straight fight. It might have been different if they were actually trying to kill each other but cap doesn't set out to kill and I seriously doubt Gambit would want to be the one that actually killed Captain America, that's why only parts of his suit exploded.
@@jasonbeatty831 and Gambit vs Sabertooth x2 decisively esp if they F*'ed with his Fam.
@@jasonbeatty831 Yup, very true
@@insertfunnyhandlehere I would argue both Cap and Gambit have superhuman agility. In the case of Cap the super soldier serum puts him at peak human walking around, but with adrenaline or bloodlust his agility becomes superhuman.
When we look at Gambit, his superhuman agility is mentioned numerous times in the Jim Lee run. I have the omnibus and it's mentioned by wolverine and rogue while playing basketball, also *Gladiator* of all people mentions it while they're fighting.
Gladiator: *"Your agility saved you the last time we met"*
Wow he caught and charged his sheild/ up and threw it back at him that takes some skill.
Gambit is the Quintessential Glass Cannon. He might have extreme explosive power and the Dexterity to land every shot but if his opponent can make contact then he is done.
I remember Rogue whooped him in their fight after Age of Apocalypse in X Men #45..the book that revealed Gambit was Sinister's lackey pre Mutant Massacre.
At that time the X-MEN could have been destroyed , but Rogue discovered this and stopped him before Gambit could initiate his plot! Somehow in the future Gambit will still commit some insane act that'll make Rogue wise up and leave his Cajon behind, then I hope they re-materialize Wonder Man, Rogue finally see's her equal in being a superhero, then that premonition I saw in 1981 will finally come full circle. According to premonition, Rogue and Wonder Man rise to true prominence in the superhero plane! When I had that premonition, I couldn't go around telling people for fear of being labled insane, but now it's beginning, Rogue is about to find out how truly heroic she really is and at first be afraid because drama and angst is always part of mutant life, but then she'll face Gambit one more time, then bring him in for his crimes against the X-MEN!
Ok nice. gambits fans are right now way that easy Mona me 😅 chill vid!!
Most mutants even the strong betas/alphas don't have superhuman everything like Wolverine surprisingly. Some of them are still regular humans in certain areas. So it makes sense that a peak human like Captain America can wreck Gambit easily.
Even in real life a big dude without fighting skills can still get his ass kicked by a small dude who is an elite MMA fighter.😂😂
@@markstriker925I like that though It's realistic when it comes to power set. Most fans that don't know power levels and storylines are mad that Gambit got beat by Cap, but it makes sense in a non-bias way being loyal to both characters.
Bruh that smoke affect at 7:15, BOSS
Sometimes I think I’m exaggerating how bad AVX was in my memory but everytime I come back to it I feel vindicated
Gambit survived gladiator more than once. Gambit is a lot more nimble than captain America and the overcoat is part of his fighting style
And cap sparred with Hercules and fought both the X men and avengers before
I think Gambit held back. He wasn't trying to kill the guy after all
Cap wasn’t trying to kill neither lol
What I think is kind of interesting about this is rob you did a video about the team up between Captain America and Wolverine during the weapons plus event. And in that one it was explaining that if Steve was still hanging around they would have used him as a super soldier manufacturing plant to combat against any of the mutants.
But if there's one thing that Captain America has in Spades is a course his brilliant tactician like mine where he can analyze any important that he's fighting against adapt to their capabilities and use it against them.
So Stevil Secret Empire Captain America?
@@aimmingo That would be the most accurate depiction of what could have happen to the mutants.
I think Captain would win the fight but they didn’t give Gambit the skills he normally has to make this a memorable fight. Gambit is still my favorite between the two of them.
Yeah gambit definitely is more agile between the two
It pretty much depends on the writer and for what purpose he's using the characters, in this case Gambit was used to show just how " awesome " C. A is and that Gambit can't hold a candle to him creating inconsistency all over.
@@IcemansArmy is he tho? Cap is literally described as having Olympic level agility.
The way I see it is Caps serum gives him the advantage because it boosts his thought process speed. So he'd target and execute his moves before gambit can react, even if they have similar agility - gambit fan
@@khepribanfield9819 Ok no. That bullshit about the thought process speed always bothers me thanks to Hawkeye, he's a normal ass human who is not only incredible fast but accurate with his sight to the peek of human perfection, if the serum gave Cap even more than that how the heck is anyone capable of catching and throwing back his metal Frisbee? That's the inaccurate shit I always have a problem with comics .
Remy's no joke!
I thought Gambit's staff was made of adamantium. Clearly this one was not. I definitely think Gambit should have had a better showing here. I remember thinking that the first time I read thru it.
W0rD and a half 💥 ✅
Gambit forgot one of the most important dbd rules:
Rogues aren't front line fighters.
If he wanted the W, he was gonna need to out think Cap. Dunno if he could have pulled it off, but being deceptive instead of head on would've helped him last more than four panels of Caps attention at least.
Let me also throw out there then outside of Danger Room training.
Gambit is a member of the thieves and assassins guild!
wait wait wait....Gambit charged the shield....why didn't it blow up?
In the comics, Cap's shield is unique Adamantium/Vibranium alloy. Gambit's power is turning an object's potential kinetic energy into explosive energy. That's why Gambit charging a card card causes less damage than if he charged and threw a baseball. The baseball has more potential with a larger mass and inertia when thrown to create much more kinetic energy than a card. Vibranium, however, absorbs energy and redirects it back at an equal opposing force when hit. That is why Cap blocking a hit from Thor's hammer doesn't break Cap's arm or mash Cap flat underneath the shield. It deprives whatever force energy Thor's hammer gives off with an opposite force in the other direction, robbing the potential kinetic energy of its potential. So, Gambit is unable to create any explosive force because the shield negates it. 1 + (-1) = 0
No issue with Cap winning but common on, he got his suit charged and they treated it like a love tap. That's practically like catching a grenade to the chest and he's walking it off like someone threw a basketball at him really hard. The shield catch and throw was awesome though.
Thats because Cap tanks grenades.. his skin is much durable than normal.
Cap's suit explodes and he doesnt even have a single scratch.. Quite obvious who the writer wanted to win the fight lol
@@Koooo4 that's what I'm saying. Gambit could've charged any object Steve had on him (including his helmet), he should at LEAST have some gaping wounds.
Cap dies by bullets and explosion but I still agree with cap wining.
@@SpikeTheWolf everyone dies from bullets and explosions.. poor argument.
In the 92' Jim Lee Fleer X-Men Cards and as Seen in X-Men #4 or 5. During Gambit's basketball game against wolverine. Gambit has Super human agility. Glad you mentioned the hypnotisim. Infinity War Gambit doppleganger charged organics.
the obvious strat for Gambit, who should've practiced this idea daily, would be to charge Cap's shield, throw it and then immediately follow up with a fast attack like throwing his playing cards... never knew he had a hypnotic power
Gambit can't charge adamantium / vibranium alloy and actuall make it explode...he has limits
@@skarhead7597 those black and red eyes have to been for something. No matter how fine she is,if a woman came on to you with those eyes,it wouldn't freak you out???😆
@@skarhead7597limits because he chose that technically gambit is an omega level mutant
Remy didn’t want that undivided attention….
Just like how Gambits fighting style is slept in Caps strength is as well. Canon wise 616 C.A. can lift around 2+ tons (he's thrown manhole covers, 80-160 lbs, as shield subs before) while Ultimate C.A. could lift & throw about 20-40 tons.
So that strength & focused attack married with his above Olympic speed would KO Gambit that quick since the force woulda been about a base ball bat strike to the face! Gambit hasn't taken to many of those cause his face is money!
When did cap lv up I though he was at about a ton
Most innnaccurate description of BOTH of their fighting styles EVER
As soon as I seen that thumbnail I immediately said to myself "that's that time Cap whooped Gambits ass while talking on the phone" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A punch from Cap is like getting smacked in the face by a 60 lb dumbbell... I'm not surprised that it would knock Gambit out.
Although, Gambit with all of his skills, near superhuman agility, and Savate should have been able to dodge or deflect such a standard punch with ease.
Cap would win in end, but it's doubtful it should have been this easy
Gambit might of got tired while cap doesn't exhaust his stamina is part of his super power
Thanks for another good video Rob. Cap probably should have taken SOME damage from his suit exploding, beside his pride?
Anyway... Bo = staff
Bo staff = staff staff
Need a round two to this fight
They definitely Vegeta'd Gambit here.
Gambit: Da South South shall rise
Captain America: excuse me?!
3:36 holy shxt🔥🔥🔥🔥
I don’t think gambit could physically beat cap but gambit knows this and and I think gambit would have fought cap differently then this vs suggested and at least it would have been a longer more interesting and entertaining fight
This was so good!! Wow my two favorite comic book characters. The writing the illustrations dope and your commentary makes it that much better. Thanks bro! Another banger!! 🦸🏻♂️
I've been listening to you for years and have loved your dialogue, you have a beautiful voice and hope you do this more and loved your Silver Surfer Death edits.
God bless
Think about it like this Wolverine can't outright beat Captain America. Although he doesn't have a healing factor(peak human healing) Captain America doesn't get tired. Just about every character you can think of will get tired before him.
Awesome! Thanks for making this vs stuff. I love it!
People need to stop sleeping on Captain America. He's the man
Dudes a scrub that the writers jerk off. Realistically he should many be able to beat gambit nor many other meta humans. Dudes peak human with a shield lol. Not superhuman
Remember the winner is determined by the writer, it has NOTHING to do with power sets. skills or other abilities, so those arguing either side should note that.
Exactly. Pisspoor chief editors and writers
omg rob 😂 I like how you can so tell when you aren’t satisfied with the result of a fight because its always “up for debate” or like “let me know who yall think would actually win” 😂
Poor Gambit! lmao
Captain America is often misunderstood as some normal guy that's just in peek physical condition, but if you look at the established limits to his strength, speed, etc he's actually sub-superhuman across the board, playing as a sort of Jack-of-all-trades. The idea that ANYONE without enhanced strength, speed, etc, like the Cap himself, can stand toe to toe with Steve Rogers is outrageous, so unless Gambit has above-human levels of ability, Rogers genuinely would mop the floor with Gambit. It wouldn't even be close.
Imagine a man with more striking power than Mike Tyson who can ALSO run faster than Husan Bolt (spelling?), AND tougher than any kungfu monk breaking boards against his body, AND mastered most of, if not all of, the important martial art styles wanted to fight YOU. Think you'd stand a chance against that guy? Only things going for Gambit is his explosions and his staff, he has no chance of winning if not for those.
Very accurate. Even the tamest estimate of Steve Rodgers I have heard is peak Olympian in every aspect. So he can run as fast as Bolt, as long as a marathon runner, while throwing punches and kicks like the best martial artist. Oh, and he has decades of fighting experience so he can throw changeups too. He also has the reaction time and aim of skeet shooters. Oof. Gambit being a kickboxer works against him as well, since Steve can easily defeat the strengths and expose the weaknesses. Closing the distance, reacting to any outside strikes, taking any knee shots, and the whole time just overpowering Gambit with his fists.
Who the hell thinks Cap is a normal guy? Lol
Narratively speaking Steve Roger is what an Evolved human would be. He is seen holding up objects that weight tens of tons over his head, capable of sprinting along side high way traffic, dives depths way below anyone else every known without special gear, etc..
He even saw himself as a Super-Human thus the reason why he registered himself as one under the "Super Human Registration Act".
Well Gambit does have enhanced speed, strength, agility, stamina and reactions. In a fist fight he should lose but not that quickly. Especially not when using his other powers.
Caps greatest ability is plot armor. He has whatever levels of power needed for the story. Cap has survived things that any non-superhuman shouldnt be able to survive. Like gambit blows up the suit he is wearing and the guy doesnt even have a scratch on him..
Gambit survived an encounter with Gladiator back in the 90s. Charged a full deck at once and machine gunned him. It was enough to get away from him. What we had in AVX was neither of these guys going all out.
Just in time for my lunch break!! Let’s goo
This why I love gambit❤
As a gambit fan, it makes me happy gambit got a bit of spotlight here. So as far as my opinion on it, I think gambit can definitely hold his own with cap. Gambit wasn’t too serious here. I’d like a gambit solely focused on cap with no distractions and with his abilities ready to be in full display.
As a Gambit fan, u sure don't knoe how overpowered he is. Cap isn't on Gambit's level..
@@afro_princess1671 hey there. i see you tried it. look im being very conservative with my words here. just to engage with the theory crafting of the fight. take that hostility elsewhere.
@@afro_princess1671 lies. The shield triumphs all of gambit powers.
TChalla also ran gambit the fade and beat him
Gambit is a glass canon. Yes he hits hard but his defense is almost 0 lol same with cap.
I believe Capt America can definitely defeat Gambit easily the mans a badass
The fact that Gambit charged Cap's armor and it didn't blow a hole in his chest the size of a watermelon is absurd. Cap doesn't have super tough skin or anything, he ain't bulletproof. NOR is he explosion proof. Gambit didn't even use all his abilities to their maximum extent. Plenty of non organic stuff he could have charged and blown Rogers to pieces. Rocks, his staff. Hell he could have taken off his own coat, charged it and draped it over Cap's face. BOOM!!! One headless "hero" down.
He won a fight with chewing gum once. I'm not sure why they dumbed Gambit down here except because of plot demands.
But then if Rogue finds out Gambit killed Captain America, she would divorce Gambit right away! She's an Avenger now, Captain America is Professor Xavier's friend, Professor X would turn Gambit in and even though it would be tough for Rogue in the end we know she''ll choose right over wrong, she would not try to hide Gambit because look how much she's had to go through earning the trust of X-MEN and Avengers. She's worked extra hard to get to where she's at and now she's a icon among her teamates. You don't throw that away even for a spouse!
Its not that deep, weirdo
@@ClockworkGearheaddamn you suck as a spouse
I loved the writers' fight commentary on so the AvX fights
Awesome play-by-play Rob. Both of these men are two among my favorite Marvel Knights, although I think Gambit could've lasted longer, Steve Roger's is comparatively stronger than LeBeau, but Remy is extremely agile...almost equal to someone like the Black Panther! The second generation Marvel Collector card listed Gambit's agility as a 4 or 5 out of 7 if I remember correctly. All power levels of Marvel characters are rated out of 7. Just in case you never collected them from '91-'93.
"Cute Trick, Gambit. You have my undivided Attention Now."
Gambit should've known better than to piss off Captain America.
Woot. Love Gambit.
I'm so glad I purchased the AVX Omnibus this year to read this moment. This was so dope 👏🏾
New drinking game. Take a shot every time Rob says “capable”
I love this! Been waiting on a cap vs gambit
Marvel Comics has always diminished mutants like Gambit, Jubilee, and Beast for ages.
Captain America & Plot Amour always stays hand and hand... It can be annoying at times depending on the writing
EXACTLY!!!!
These pre house of x stuff is some of my favorite in my collection
Straight to the point and simple gabbit should have won this fight
I've always said that Cap's superpower is not the obvious. Sure, Cap was given the super soldier serum, which increased his abilities to peak human levels across the board. However, all of those flashy upgrades that are apparent to everyone around him are merely incidental. And like all other heroes, his true power will occasionally fail him only to come back at the most dire moment. Because, no matter the odds, the number of setbacks or the size of the opposition, his true super power is: Cap wins.
Facts.
Cap is the supreme war tactican . The Only one in Marvel that can lead on an equal playing field is Cyclops . One on one with Cap is trouble for anyone BUT that being said ...
His enhanced abilities definitely assisted in the one banger that put Gambit to sleep here .😂😂😂
Cap is superhuman, he's peak human walking around, but with adrenaline and bloodlust, he becomes superhuman. I think the MCU films did a good job of demonstrating this.
Cap can “Do it all day”. Gambit was never in the fight to begin with
Digging these alot brother. I only get spawn spiderman and venom right now so I appreciate the X-Men videos the most. Helps me revisit or dive into books I can't get.
Gambit should have said sorry like Tony did to Hulk🤣🤣🤣
Captain America winning against Gambit is a joke. Gambit is very OP..
With a physical touch, he can either explode things or tear it apart. Not to mention that his ability to tap energy grants him speed, reflexes, strength, agility etc.
He can hypnotise his opponents, put them to sleep or even disrupt their brain etc. The dude oneshotted classic Juggernaut. That says it all.
They disrespect Gambit’s real abilities all the time
In my opinion, Gambit is underrated as a hand-to-hand combatant. Don't get me wrong, I know that he can hold his own and then some,otherwise he wouldn't last like he has done. The real test for the Cajun would be to face fighters who are just as good if not better: Shang-Chi,Taskmaster, Iron Fist,Karnak,etc.
The fight between Gambit and Captain America was a showcase of sorts;in which the reader gets sucked in,seeing from a safe distance. To witness every punch, kick, throw and tackle ,the reader knows that it has to end, but hoping that it doesn't.
The outcome of the fight isn't a surprise: Captain America has fought enhanced and super-powered beings for much of his publication history, but it seems that Gambit had almost pushed the super soldier to his limit. If it wasn't for his attention being divided, Captain America might have finished the fight that much sooner.
That is my thoughts on the matter...what are yours?
Yeah... These fights are definitely having the avengers win because they need them to win for the story not because that's actually how a fight would go down.
I got hit by my friend with a few months of boxing training and it felt like a car ran into my bicep. A no holds barred punch from Cap straight to he chin should be lethal with that comparison in my mind.
Gambit is my favorite X Men mutant but him losing to Cap is expected from me
I can dig it. Cap doesn't EVER go hard against humans. The Cajun convinced him to go hard... so Cap put him down for a little nappypoo. 😂
Super human strength punching a standard human chin will level the best of mortals. The instant concussion could easily K.O. mortal gambit.
"You have my undivided attention now." It was at this moment I knew.....Gambit f*cked up.
They would never try to kill each other, too much blowback. Cap always try's to go easy on you at first, also because he's way older and has a grandfather's gentleness too him, but if you piss him off all the years of experience, fighting styles and super soldier serum are unbeatable.
This is no contest, Gambit LOSES!!!
While I would agree with you, under normal circumstances Cap would beat Gambit. However, the way this specific fight played out the result would be Cap either being unconscious, in critical condition, or dead. Cap in the 616 is not superhuman, he has no invulnerability, and Gambit just caused an explosion equal to more than a grenade right against his unprotected chest.
@@jormungaurd I'd like to assume that Gambit was trying not to hurt him too much and wished to stun or soften him up more to even the field then give him a knock out blow.
@IStevenSeagal He is peak human durability, it is not superhuman. Yes, he is more durable than normal humans, but his durability isn't superhuman. The Super Soldier Serum made him into a peak human specimen, think of it as a step above Olympic Level Athlete, but not quite on the superhuman level. This is just looking at the 616 version of the character. Some version of Cap, such as the Ultimates version, were given superhuman levels of strength and durability but the 616 version of the comics was not.
Remember Gambit's power makes things explode based on the mass of what was changed. Just a playing card explodes with the power equal to a hand grenade. So something with the mass of Cap's tunic would cause a heck of a lot more damage. Even with peak human durability Cap wouldn't be walking away after an explosion right up against his chest without a scratch on him. Usually, when Cap faces an explosion like this he has his armor to protect him, in this case, it's his armor itself that's exploding so it wouldn't provide any protection.
@IStevenSeagal The MCU, to a point, is based on the Ultimates comics where Cap does have some superhuman attributes. In mainstream 616 comics, Cap isn't superhuman according to Marvel Comics official description. According to the description, Cap is a step above Olympic-level athletes but not quite superhuman.
Gambit has a lot of superhuman potentials
cap has been on a tear in the last couple of months lmao
When you got a guy who’s a master tactician, top tier martial artist, has enhanced mental processing and reflexes and could bench a bus I would think a single punch is all he needs if he was focused
As someone thats been a Big fan of Gambit since the 90's, i think this fight was pretty accurate. Like Rob was saying, fighting Captain America while he's multitasking is *ENTIRELY* different than fighting a Captain America thats *Focused* lol Dont forget, not only is Cap a *Master Tactician,* but he's ALSO a Super Soldier thats prodigious in several different fighting styles......I'd argue this is Very similar to how an acual fight between these two would go, Especially since neither were *Planning* on this fight, they simply ran into each other 🤔
He may have the Super Soldier serum, but it doesn't make him superhuman in the 616. According to Marvel Comics Cap is not superhuman, he is peak human. Having an explosion going off against his unprotected chest, since it's literally his armor that is exploding, would have killed him. According to Marvel the power of the explosions from Gambit's charged items is dependent on the mass of the item. The type of armor Cap wears once charged would have been more than enough to blow Cap to pieces, since Gambit's playing cards have the explosive capacity of a grenade.
@jormungaurd Marvel can say something, and the very next issue they can completely forget about it 😂😂
Let us not forget that they were also fighting to incapacitate the other. Cap would not kill Gambit under any means because.. its Steve rogers man. And Gambit would not kill Steve rogers, Captain America. He has a degree of respect for the guy and what he stands for, its just something they both disagree on, so its fisticuffs. And Cap is MILES better at disarming and incapacitating a foe than Gambit, as much as I love Remy.
If Gambit was more ruthless? Then it would be Cap vs New Sun. And we were already given how that goes.
@@TheRouza I agree he wouldn't intentionally attempt to kill him. My point is that Cap wouldn't be getting up completely unscathed. But let's be truthful the explosion was enough that it destroyed almost the entirety of his tunic, that large of an explosion that close to his chest would nearly kill a normal human. So Cap getting back up after the explosion like it was just an inconvenience is ridiculous.
@@jormungaurd I think it would've killed a regular human.
Gambit had a full deck of explosive cards, C. A had an indestructible shield called plot armor. Guess who wins.
I say Gambit. He did a similar Attack on apocolypse and put him down for longer than Cap stayed down.
I mean, Cap is always a shoo in for wins. But they really played Gambit wrong on this. Every X Men is a danger or menace for a reason. That's why Xavier hand picked them for his personal team. Gambit not matching Cap's strength or even over powering him was kinda offbeat. He cahrge himself. Give himself enhanced strength. Just not to others/organics. Or he could have out maneuvered or even matched Caps agility. Caps only physical feat he, probably, has over Gambit is stamina. Talking about who has fought Wolverine, Sabertooth and Apocalypse AND walked away with his life.
Gambit’s stock has really dropped since the ‘90s. In his peak popularity and Cap’s lowest level, writers would’ve likely let Gambit win or at least show even better. Cap would’ve been knocked out from the charged chain mail. Hell, Gambit killed the Tithe Collector in the fourth issue of his first mini series by charging his tenchcoat.
Gambit fans are delusional. Cap takes this fight ten out of ten times and it's not even close.
Gambit cooks ngl
New Sun was one hell of a ride back when Wolverine and Gambit shared a comic together, It was his final run before it was switched to Wolverine and Deadpool.
Rob, talked about Gambit being able to suggest as a power ignoring the powers Captain America holds, inspiration, admiration and respect. It is hard for people to go against people they admire, respect and are inspired by. Did Gambit hold back (more than likely), in various times of crisis Captain America is the ralley caller, the one whose leadership inspires the Marvel heroes to fight harder. So pause for a bit, and think about it. Awesome telling as usual, loved it.
Is this the second time you make a cap vs gambit fight or am i crazy ?
You're not
I would say Gambit gave Cap the challenge that would put all distractions aside. Once a fighter like Cap is fully focused one on one it would be over just that fast. Cap's power, speed & ability to read his opponent after a few 'feeler' exchanges & Cap would just drive right through Gambit's defenses & get the KO.
Love captain america. There's absolutely no quit in him, to the point where he might be Marvels version of the black night in Monty Python.
i remember reading this for the first time and thinking "ooooo you don fucked up now" goodtimes lol
Four panels?! I've had Gambit vs. Captain America fights on Marvel vs. Capcom last longer than that! I do remember thinking Cap was being disrespectful to Gambit by not giving him attention the first time I read this fight.
Caps been throwing punches for 85 years!!!
actually.. Canonically speaking -- much longer.
In a fisticuffs with Capt America, Gambit would get beat on like a drum, there'd be no contest; luckily for him...🫠
Beyond Omega Level: Kulan Gath!👿
Idk caps got years of war battling experiences legend
Absolutely nobody is as bigger Gambit Stan than i am... that being said... he lost this fight before it started. Cap is the last person you want to fight with arrogance or over confidence. He is powerful enough to beat Cap... but Cap just got that glow when he is determined and doesn't have time; let alone if you manage to force him to step up his game. Hurts... but it's nothing less or more than i would expect from either of them at that time.
This whole series made the X-men look like a joke. Gambit has fought and beat Sabretooth before. I know Cap is the best but Gambit shouldnt have been taken out this fast
Haha.. i like this. Gambit vs Cap is classic Marvel
The artists did Gambit dirt as heck with that panel of him getting punched by Cap. I can almost hear the sound Gambit would have made.
I feel like Gambit would have had the W if it was a real 1v1. My beef regarding these AVX was that they were fast and sloppy. but I do think Cap v Gambit was the most creative one and realist comic wise we saw.
Beyond omega level: The divine creator
You are the best Rob can you please do a story on the iperal guard of the shi ar and it members they are very powerful and caught my attention when they fought the X-men over the life of Jean Greay thank you
How was the charged shield thing resolved? Did comics explain not explain or was it the comic itself leaving this vauge?
Yes the greasy sleazy Cajun that throws stuff well that goes Boom vs the worlds ultimate fighting machine with a shield that says NO to most everything. 😂
Aw yes another video where Rob slobs on gambitsknob hahaa
Marvel got me with these Verses books. I bought them all. I enjoyed AvX, Civil War, Fear Itself.