of all the life coaches, you interviewed sylvia who probably need life coaching herself. there is no legit life coach that can tell you that you can always expect to walk out from just a single session with all your problem solved. watch at around 5mins 20s mark.
Ikr, I don't think she's qualified to be a life coach. For example, if let's say I go through a very tough phase like break up or worse, a proper life coach just can't solve all my problems within one session which is nonsensical. Healing is a long process and something that requires multiple sessions. She mentions in the video, she took 8 months to be certified as a life coach but based on all my experiences seeing counsellors and life coaches, they all have years of experience and also they have relevant qualifications.
I would like to give credit to Sylvia for being so mentally strong but watching this over my breakfast I've had the opportunity to ponder about what this moment meant for her. She is definitely using this moment as a form of advertisement as well. "client who had just given birth to a child", "low self esteem issue", "single session" she's trying to promote herself as a life coach to a broad market audience who can offer a quick and effective aid to their life. No hate, just observation.
I think Sylvia is lying, 5:11 she mention that it only takes 1 session as a life coach to solve all of the clients problems. But in her previous podcast, she said she have gone through multiple life coaches before finding the right one. So when is she telling the truth?
agreed. I mean its possible but very rare. The host ask 'everytime' and she said yes. Immediate red flag. Also her facial expression tells me a lot that she is trying very hard to impress. Not only that, it means those who go and seek her help are in a vulnerable position, not ideal given her previous history.
As someone who used to work with individuals with trauma, I was taught to be very careful about potentially re-traumatising a victim and only ask necessary questions to enable me to do my job. Anything more serious will be handled by a qualified psychologist/ psychiatrist. Wondering if what the life coach is doing (immediately deep diving into serious issues) is potentially dangerous? Some people might break and spiral instead no? Hope CNA can look into this and do a follow up if necessary for the sake of younger viewers
i agree totally. My own trauma healing is still ongoing after 1 year because it’s a mesh of interconnected mess. and it wouldn’t resolve bits by bits if not for my supportive and skilled therapist. if not handled properly, u will be disempowered without the necessary framing and skills to manage those deep emotions. i even took a neuro-linguistic programming practitioner course to equip myself with the skills and few mins into the video i find her emotionally charged and passing alot of her personal judgments onto the client. My therapist and workshop coach supported my emotions but doesn’t partake their emotions or perceptions onto my experience. coaches are meant to facilitate your own discovery to your questions but when it involves deeper mental emotional issues, please find the right people - therapists to help you heal those deeper issues.
I’m going to put side who Sylvia is and the reputation that precedes her. I’m just going to focus on what she did during the coaching session that showed her unprofessionalism. Maintaining a neutrality is one of the most basic requirements of a coach. So it disturbs me greatly that she let her own judgement get in the way of the coaching. She said of the mother, ”This is really, really so wrong, she should be very sorry!”. When the coachee tried to defend her mother by saying, “Maybe she really didn’t want me to be bullied?” The coach retorted, “So she bully you instead?” Careful girl! Your judgement is so strong! Have you met the mother? Have you verified the facts? Whatever you knew came from the coachee, to make judgement and proclaim it like a fact is foolish and dangerous! You literally planted ideas in her head that could permanently sour her relationship with her mum! A good coach does not drive a deeper wedge into a parent-child relationship. A good coach would say, “I’m glad you are trying to put yourself in her shoes and understand what drove her to say what she said. Yes, it is possible that she thought she was protecting you by getting you to lose weight without realising her words badly affected your self-esteem. So now that you are older and wiser, do you feel that you need to be slim in order to be deserving of love and acceptance? What do you believe?” Coaching is not therapy. If Sylvia cannot tell the difference between coaching and therapy, the training company should take her off the market and not let her do harm to clients who can’t tell the difference. And yes, I do think she needs more therapy herself so she will not be superimposing her personal angst on her clients. Otherwise she won’t be crying like she was the victim too.
agree totally and thank you for showing how it should be correctly proceeded ! as someone ongoing trauma healing and therapy for a year and even took neuro-linguistic programming course, she is emotionally charged and passing her own perceptions and judgments onto someone experience. that’s very dangerous and it’s not helping her to reframe her experience and beliefs positively.
She still cannot shake off her personality as a friend to her client. The way she said, "so she bullied you instead?!" is exactly how a well-meaning non-qualified friend will say to show you support. 😆
8:53 "so she bully you instead?" Is this for real? Anyone who has been for even an short para-counselling course would know not to say such leading statements. There's no such thing as a shortcut to life please!
It's on the producer for choosing sylvia, knowing she is unqualified and a crook, just to get views for cna insider. so i don't sympathise with her unfortunately.
Sylvia looks “on-edge” - and also saw some of her online videos post-saga, I don’t think she’s sufficiently done with her own healing journey to be coaching others.
That's the great gulf of difference between a professional counsellor and 'a life coach '. We've all been through stuff, doesn't mean that we can tell other people what to do. She did an 8 month course 😱 I spent 5YEARS training to be a counsellor!! And a lot of the early work is exactly about 'your stuff'. Bringing your own baggage to the work is lethal. There are never ever any shortcuts! Life coaching is for the 21st century 1st world problems sort of people..if you have a serious issue please... get serious help from a professional.
No decent life coach will tell you that they can solve your problem in a session. It’s a disappointing episode because it felt like whoever planned this didn’t do enough research to properly represent the topic. Could have gotten Rach from Love Bonito to share her experience with her coach (Joyce Chen) or get other more recognised coaches to be featured…but it has to be Sylvia (nothing against her, but I believe there are many others who can better rep the life coaching industry) I’m not a life coach myself but know of enough people who are in the industry, and I feel like this episode has belittled their good works.
Spot on! CNA could've spotlight a more qualified life coach. Also, there are so many aspects to one's life & healing journey. A coach at best triggers the change, the coachee still needs to put in the 'work' in his/her own healing & life journey.
Talking point. I used to have full on respect and love for the contents that was discussed on. But I think this episode is 10 steps back on the kind of respect the series has built. Just review all the comments and do a retrospect about this episode.
I have never had a life coaching session, but based on my sessions with my therapist, therapists are professional and objective. My sessions have mostly been very grounding for me, therapists are not trying to illicit an emotional response from you, and will definitely not villainize someone from your life by calling them a “bully”.
22:06 I do agree with Charmaine's conclusion. Everyone should try to find the answer within themselves first. Life coaches are not simply the answer to all your solution, after you are the one holding the power to make a change in your life, not the life coach. However, I do believe that life coach is just somebody who assist you in your life when you just need some guidance, or that one step you might have overlooked when you are in the middle of working on yourself. It just depends on which stage of life you are in, if not life coaches is not really necessary, just a boost to your life
I like the premise of the question but just thought the show can feature a life coach with many years of experience with a history of many clients rather than someone who is relatively new to the industry… I think we viewers really want more in depth understanding of the benefits and drawbacks of life coaching
Why? Who chose Sylvia chan? I'm sure there are a lot of life coaches that are not as controversial as her. It's such a disappointing episode. I'm definitely not recommending this episode to my friends or family.
I think the point of this episode is about how dodgy life coaches are. All the other comments about how Sylvia makes life coaching look bad is missing the point
Charmaine u look good, especially when you smile. People who love us will continue to love us no matter what. Sometimes they mean well but come across harsh.
I am not a life coach but in my profession, I have network with enough certified executive and life coaches to know that no coach will promise that they can help you solve your problem in one session. ICF alert!
Life have no shortcut. Like the psychologist said, that's just a grey area. If the life coach manage to fix you / your problem, then you should be happy. If unfortunately they exploit you like the one in the end of the video, you can't log a police case for scam either. So might as well talk to your friend / family.
I have just completed my Diploma in Professional Coaching and someone mentioned this episode to me. I find that the episode is shallow and also has factually incorrect information, when it is stated that you get certiication included in your training. Certification by ICF requires 100 hours of coaching with 75 having to be paid and 25 can be pro bono. It also requires that you pass an extensive examn, have a certified coach approve your coaching ability through uploaded recording session and more. It is not as easy as it is portraied here to obtain ICF certification. You can call yourself a coach and I can coach right now, but I cannot call myself certified coach as I am not yet certified. This episide seems to have been done too quickly and I would agree that someone should have found a more reputable life coach o paint a more nuanced picture of the coaching profession. Coaching is to support with changing behaviors, moving through transitions or achieving goals. It is not to deal with trauma.
As a certified coach with the International Coach Federation, with more than 500 hours of coaching experience and an MSc in Applied Positive Psychology and Coaching Psychology, I’m sorry to say that this entire video is a severe misrepresentation of what coaching is. 1. What Sylvia Chan is doing is not coaching. Coaches don’t operate that way. Please, at the very least, consult people from the ICF to provide a more accurate representation. 2. There are many ICF-accredited coach training programs out there. How can the producer base their judgment on a 6-hour Udemy coaching course to determine whether someone should become a coach? It’s disappointing to see CNA producing such a video and using social media IG ads to attract people into watching it.
The best life coach is you! Just get quiet and think about what makes sense for you right now in your life. If you don’t know what to do, just do something and you will get feedback!
Psychiatrists study the biology. They deal with medication. Psychologists study human behaviour, thoughts and comms. They will ask you questions that guides you to come up with your own answers. Life coaches give you the solution to your life problem according to their POV. Someone you talk to when you stuck in moving forward, to pick their brains and experiences, for reference. So the overlapping isn't with psychiatrists. The overlap and confusion for most people is with psychologists, life coaches and counsellors.
I like your ending sentences isn't life about trials and tribulations. By the way this episode gives me a fresh new perspective about the World of coaching thank you charmaine and the CNA Team.
There are life coaches that listen to your problems and give you advice for free. They are the leaders and pastors who serve in church and do it out of love for God.
yes, but some people are so afraid of the religious portion of it , and more importantly , God sometimes can take decades to work on you , and people just wants instant fixes
Ya There are also those who are judgmental and not doing it out of love for people!! Free?? Oh really?? They expect you to drop $$$$ into the offering bags!! GO DIRECTLY TO GOD HE GIVES FREELY ✝️❤ HE CREATED you AND KNOW YOU FROM INSIDE OUT UPSIDE DOWN ALL AROUND
@@godsamazinggrace5331 I've been a christian for the past 25 years , I've never dropped more than $10 a month for offering , never paid tithe . But I've come to accept there's a business side to Christianity , especially the big umbrella of protestantism. I guess you have to find a church that have a healthy balance of spirit vs commerce, proper churches will actually have a breakdown of how they use the collections , how much goes to community work , mission work , building maintenance etc etc
@@jannoriko7465 Just letting people know an alternative route if they find life coaches expensive and don't know where else to go. I'm not forcing anyone anyway, you can make your decision to go or not.
Why are people saying that this is the worst episode? The sylvia portion is definitely off-putting, and TP team should have went for someone else w/o controversy. Bringing sylvia in just puts the attention on her instead. Objectively speaking, the episode touched on life coaching, spoke to a certified psychologist, a certified PCC and even an alleged victim scammed from life coaching programmes - i think the episode covers enough for awareness, and viewers after watching this is able to really think "Should I Hire a Life Coach? (Or a psychologist/therapist instead)". And if the viewer really decide to go for Life Coaching, they would know that it's probably better to go for a CERTIFIED PCC instead. Has this TP episode not done its work? I think it has. Also kudos to Charmaine for being vulnerable in front of the camera and to the public. It's not easy. Thank you for doing that, i do hope you manage to get through your issues soon. 💪
This would have been a good platform to spread the importance of mental wellness and legitimate life coaching, but its entirely nullified by featuring Sylvia Chan- almost as if the main KPI of this episode was to have a recognised personality to garner more views
I think it's good for individuals to try and seek help to get some clarity in life, but to go to Sylvia for life coaching? Come 'on CNA, I'm sure you have better candidates to choose from.
Remove yourself from people who never reciprocates respect, friendship and love. Do not stay unless you can handle being civil, self-awareness and practicing no expectations from people. Or so just blend in discreetly and keep your inner belief stronger. Retain those people who shows genuine humanity. Work on your Inner You and Self-love. When you have whole and balanced inner self, then your joys, love and strength will shine no matter what. Self-love is never being selfish. No matter what happens, self-love will be one of your savior. How? Do not put all your trust, respect and heart in one basket. Keep some for yourself. Healing and recovery comes from Inner You who you remembered. Life is still beautiful.
is a life coach supposed to cry with you during the session?! I would think not. and when they say they spent hours and hours of training and gave something like 100 + 60 hours, 160 hours at 8 hours a day only amounts to 20 days!
listening to the podcast she did earlier with her friend dan and this short excerpt of the “life coaching”, it consistently feel like the only way to empower yourself is to blame others. not about what you achieve, not about what you are doing right, its just other ppl fault. its them, its not me. zero introspection, full on others. not to be confused with self blaming or victimisation.
Sadly, this does not feel like journalism. It is slanted against life coaching. The show lacked depth, and did not give clear explanations of the difference between life coaching and therapy. It doesn't cover the other aspects of life coaching such as executive coaching, career coaching, performance coaching, as well as on the other spectrum, the other helping areas of psychiatry, counselling and many modalities of the mental health industry. The numbers quoted for pricing has no proper reference other than Google. Very disappointing episode on national TV. This is no different from watching social media to try to understand something and jumping to conclusions. Simply terrible.
I guess out of all these life coaches in Singapore and they featured Sylvia was because of the content and views for this video. I am sure there are better ones out there that can give life advice to all your problems out there.
Wear a helmet. Tough on in adulting. Fight the fight that everyone is fighting. Win the battles that no one speaks about. You don't need a coach to tell give you that acknowledgement of what you are doing.
Been watching Sylvia's story unfolding and am proud of how vulnerable she has become and her growth as a human being. However watching this video and seeing how she work as a coach, there are honestly quite a few questionable points. Coaches with a clear 3rd person perspective can identify a person's issue quite easily, but to manage their emotions, process and to release as well as bringing them back into a safe space requires real technique that psychologist are trained to do. So coaches reading this, please also practice with clear ethics. When you see someone distressed and needing more professional intervention, please point them to a therapist. Unpacked baggage that is not repacked back properly can cause more harm than good. 🙏🏻
Reading the comments, I can understand & also ask - why Sylvia? So kelong. But good coaches don't tell ppl what to do. They actually ask good qns that makes ppl think for themselves. A lot of times, the answer is within the individual. Coaches draw it out. They don't do shadow work or go deep cos that's not supposed to be their area; that's what mental health professionals do. Life coaches also don't cry with their clients. That's not professional. Sylvia at this point is probably not ready but who's to say she can't legit do well? None of us starts out an expert. She needs to build credibility through experience & as the other commenters mentioned, she still needs to heal. I only hope she would be serious about it & don't go down her previous path & ruin it for herself & for other legit, good life coaches out there.
7:25. The counselling session: all was good until Sylvia said “she (Charmaine’s mother) should be very sorry..… so she bullied you instead..… “ . I think blaming and character-assassinating Charmaine’s mom is doing more damage than helping, because damaging her relationships with her parents will cause more turmoils for the family. Most adults can gradually reduce the impact of childhood traumatic experiences, if they will step back and start to look at themselves from outside, rather than from the inside, playing the role of the vulnerable child again and again, and being trapped in the prison.🦋🙁
If you decide to seek guidance in your life, health, career or relationships, make sure to learn more about the coach's P-E-P. Is there a step-by-step PROCESS that you'll go through to get results? Or is it a wing-it sorta style? Next, does the coach/mentor have EXPERIENCE in the area where you're seeking support? You decide if you care more about the years of experience or the experience of getting success in the field. And, finally, whether you feel like you can connect with the coach's PERSONALITY because you'll need to feel comfortable to open up and share your goals and challenges. If the coach has free resources, please consume as much as you can before making your decision! I've transitioned from 10+ years in the corporate world into a career coach today, and above is the same advice I give to anyone interested in working with me or signup for my career programs. Should only work with people you can truly help IMHO. Good luck and take care!
As a viewer I am feeling like that the reporter is representing a certain level of skepticism and cynicism on the industry of life coach, even the music is given the vibes. While it surfaces the skepticism and calls out the shady things that happen in the industry, it is also not representative of the full spectrum, including those who genuinely wants to help others through coaching. Viewers watch with care and not be skewed by the producers' POV as well. If you are in need of help and speaking to a few prospective coaches, lean on your own judgment of who is in front of you and determine if they are suitable *for* you and match your values. Also recommended to maintain some level of awareness if you are feeling manipulated or if something starts to feel off in the process.
Agree, the crew/producer behind this episode has already formed a biased view against life coaches. Mainly focusing on negative aspects/experiences and interviewing a controversial person who is still fairly new as a life coach. I had expected more from CNA than to create such “sensational” contents to gain more publicity for their contents. Most disappointed.
"let's get Sylvia to do one life coaching session" "let's do a free online course" ok we're good to produce an episode on life coaching CNA you can do better...
9:15 I know that the show must go on and recording needs to continue, but.......man, Charmaine needed a hug there. A friend to hold her at that moment to let her know that even if things aren't going to be fine, she won't be journeying alone.
It's actually quite painful watching this woman bringing painful issues to someone who was totally incompetent and treated her like they were just a couple of girlfriends chatting over coffee 😱
0:53 Charmaine’s 2 pals’ sharing are very poignant: that they hv learnt to understand themselves better, able to pinpoint where are their emotional blockages and how to set themselves free from getting stuck. To discover that it wasn’t work itself that was stressing her out, but rather, her PERCEPTIONS of the various situations. They nailed it, by identifying the root causes of issues instead of trying to deal with the superficial symptoms of stress.
The problem is people are complicated, it's tough to do but easy to say; just be content with yourself first, accept people opinion but filter and consider which one is good for you. Even if other assist or showing you some way on how to deal with things, doesn't mean it will be fit for you. do what makes you happy yet do not bother or disturb others life. so what if you are fat?, are you gonna slim down because others opinion?. do their opinion matter to you?, will they even help you when you are down?. Think these through and get proper rest when you are tired. life is short, stop chasing approval from others when at the end, they don't really matter. bad things happen so you can appreciate the good and life is definitely a roller coaster.
Thank you Ms,Sylvia chan im from singapore .Np pure water kaki.last time and Datok 3 devil face.but now is C4.im hope now you know to done.why nobody want to let dame leaning the true
Empathy is a great tool and skill to use. For most people with dysfunctional backgrounds, at first they just really want to be heard, no solution needed. But they dont know that... yet. I will stop here for now.
Here you go, CNA. I hope youre happy with the amount of video views youre getting. Hit kpi alr mah? Can we pls not feature people like Sylvia on talking point next time 🙏
This 'life coach' comes in all types of forms. There's even some where they encourage people that have joined them to bring in more people and in return they would get some sort of "compensation" / "discounts", like what Harry went through but his is pretty extreme that he has to meet with a KPI??! . All these 'coaches' like to prey on people's emotions.
My sentiment is that the video is leaning towards the opinion of being not-for-life coaches so I doubt it is a sponsorship of any kind but more so a news piece because given Singapore's population, the number of ICF-certified coaches we have is indeed a lot. My opinion is that the rise of life coaches might be due to the decline in religiosity & community, the rise of mental issues along with the stigma of seeking a therapists/psychologist. Life coaches fill this gap. Whether they're genuinely helpful or not, I'm not sure.
so... she basically "bounced back" by finding another "career" that she could "manipulate" and "gaslight" but this time round the recipent has to pay huge sums for it ? that's great! look ma, we solved unemployment in SG. man anyone paying for her life coach seriously needs to reflect on life.. donating that money might make more sense
A much better choice will be your in house host, Steve (Chia). Someone I would respect and look up to. Someone is not public controversial. Unless Steve mess up his own life too.
CNA please bring up this issue to MOH before more milenias & gen Z fall victims to these "life coach" who are "$ suckers" & not medically certified - they will only do more damage to those who are already emotionally & mentally weak
Of all the life coaches in Singapore, you choose one who claims to be a life coach just because she finished a course. I think she needs to continued to be life coached at this moment. What a waste of time!
CNA, i always thought you were a trustworthy source of truth and journalism, but apparently not because why will you find someone that still cant change herself in a better way?!
I couldn't bear to complete the episode because it's definitely not going to be insightful. Unlike other Talking Point episodes where 'legitimate' stakeholders or 'professionals in their fields' were interviewed to share their perspectives, this one seems kind of absurd - not gonna flame anyone in this video though. But if you are going through a difficult time, please reach out to a counselor, social worker, etc. They are definitely more trained to support you in the betterment of yourself.
Slyvia??? One in a million and you have her to be the coach plus knowing her infamous background towards her NOC employees? Nah man, this show is a circus. There are so many well qualified coaches other than this nub kid sylvia
It is all these unqualified coaches that bring a bad name to all the professional and certified coaches and the coaching industry. This is indeed the worse episode of talking points. Please get the facts right, interview the right people and let's not be biased
Are there even qualified coaches in the first place? Which body is the one giving certification? What i see is various different people/companies giving out their own coaching certs/license.
Take it with a big pinch of salt Life coaches are self proclaimed experts A person who has experienced life's journey of ups and downs with many curved balls are not even qualified enough to tell another how to live their lives nor resolve their life's issues!! Every person is uniquely different
If psychiatry is pseudo science, life coaching is double pseudo science. Life coaching is a novelty fad and an attempt to re-term emotional consultancy. Kinda like calling a telephone operator as a communication network consultant.
Don't insult psychiatry - they are firstly fully qualified doctors who take on specialization to treat mental illnesses. Don't anyhow mix up with other nonsense and anyhow insult a profession you don't know about.
I have always been a fan of CNA. U guys really got it wrong this time. Of all life coaches out there, her? You might be guessing why so much? Maybe she repented her past. Wow about people she victimised? How will this interview impacts them? I dont know but…..
Ya she didn't say if Sylvia's claim was true but I guess not la. I do believe that some issues can be 'resolved' in one session though because I have a friend who can just say a few sentences and make ppl see the light. If I show him this video, I think he will see all the money he should be earning from listening to ppl's problems. 😆
If u need professional help pls get a psychiatrist or psychologist. Not some voodoo life coach? God pls.
of all the life coaches, you interviewed sylvia who probably need life coaching herself. there is no legit life coach that can tell you that you can always expect to walk out from just a single session with all your problem solved. watch at around 5mins 20s mark.
Ikr, I don't think she's qualified to be a life coach. For example, if let's say I go through a very tough phase like break up or worse, a proper life coach just can't solve all my problems within one session which is nonsensical. Healing is a long process and something that requires multiple sessions.
She mentions in the video, she took 8 months to be certified as a life coach but based on all my experiences seeing counsellors and life coaches, they all have years of experience and also they have relevant qualifications.
Super turnoff when she talks and keep moving her hands.. Like do kungfu fighting. 😂
If u dont know, its for the extra few views thats why interview Sylvia. Thumbnail is also her
@@elm3682that's not what social workers or counsellors do in a session honestly
I would like to give credit to Sylvia for being so mentally strong but watching this over my breakfast I've had the opportunity to ponder about what this moment meant for her. She is definitely using this moment as a form of advertisement as well.
"client who had just given birth to a child", "low self esteem issue", "single session" she's trying to promote herself as a life coach to a broad market audience who can offer a quick and effective aid to their life.
No hate, just observation.
I think Sylvia is lying, 5:11 she mention that it only takes 1 session as a life coach to solve all of the clients problems. But in her previous podcast, she said she have gone through multiple life coaches before finding the right one. So when is she telling the truth?
agreed. I mean its possible but very rare. The host ask 'everytime' and she said yes. Immediate red flag. Also her facial expression tells me a lot that she is trying very hard to impress. Not only that, it means those who go and seek her help are in a vulnerable position, not ideal given her previous history.
sylvia's exact words are " after one session they are DONE"
which means they know its bs and not coming back la ahahaha
I think she was saying targeted problems? Not all problems?
Gan siasuay
Whatever fits her narrative is her truth haha
As someone who used to work with individuals with trauma, I was taught to be very careful about potentially re-traumatising a victim and only ask necessary questions to enable me to do my job. Anything more serious will be handled by a qualified psychologist/ psychiatrist. Wondering if what the life coach is doing (immediately deep diving into serious issues) is potentially dangerous? Some people might break and spiral instead no? Hope CNA can look into this and do a follow up if necessary for the sake of younger viewers
i agree totally. My own trauma healing is still ongoing after 1 year because it’s a mesh of interconnected mess. and it wouldn’t resolve bits by bits if not for my supportive and skilled therapist. if not handled properly, u will be disempowered without the necessary framing and skills to manage those deep emotions.
i even took a neuro-linguistic programming practitioner course to equip myself with the skills and few mins into the video i find her emotionally charged and passing alot of her personal judgments onto the client. My therapist and workshop coach supported my emotions but doesn’t partake their emotions or perceptions onto my experience.
coaches are meant to facilitate your own discovery to your questions but when it involves deeper mental emotional issues, please find the right people - therapists to help you heal those deeper issues.
I’m going to put side who Sylvia is and the reputation that precedes her. I’m just going to focus on what she did during the coaching session that showed her unprofessionalism.
Maintaining a neutrality is one of the most basic requirements of a coach. So it disturbs me greatly that she let her own judgement get in the way of the coaching.
She said of the mother, ”This is really, really so wrong, she should be very sorry!”. When the coachee tried to defend her mother by saying, “Maybe she really didn’t want me to be bullied?” The coach retorted, “So she bully you instead?”
Careful girl! Your judgement is so strong! Have you met the mother? Have you verified the facts? Whatever you knew came from the coachee, to make judgement and proclaim it like a fact is foolish and dangerous! You literally planted ideas in her head that could permanently sour her relationship with her mum!
A good coach does not drive a deeper wedge into a parent-child relationship. A good coach would say, “I’m glad you are trying to put yourself in her shoes and understand what drove her to say what she said. Yes, it is possible that she thought she was protecting you by getting you to lose weight without realising her words badly affected your self-esteem. So now that you are older and wiser, do you feel that you need to be slim in order to be deserving of love and acceptance? What do you believe?”
Coaching is not therapy. If Sylvia cannot tell the difference between coaching and therapy, the training company should take her off the market and not let her do harm to clients who can’t tell the difference.
And yes, I do think she needs more therapy herself so she will not be superimposing her personal angst on her clients. Otherwise she won’t be crying like she was the victim too.
Well said! I was also irked at the part where she said "I understand because hey I have been through that"... like ?????
agree totally and thank you for showing how it should be correctly proceeded ! as someone ongoing trauma healing and therapy for a year and even took neuro-linguistic programming course, she is emotionally charged and passing her own perceptions and judgments onto someone experience. that’s very dangerous and it’s not helping her to reframe her experience and beliefs positively.
She still cannot shake off her personality as a friend to her client. The way she said, "so she bullied you instead?!" is exactly how a well-meaning non-qualified friend will say to show you support. 😆
I agree with you completely. I don’t care about Sylvia’s past but the coaching session was really unprofessional.
Well said!!! !!!
8 months training to become life coach Vs 3 years to complete Diploma in Poly. Hmm, maybe government should use this to solve unemployment!
8:53 "so she bully you instead?" Is this for real? Anyone who has been for even an short para-counselling course would know not to say such leading statements. There's no such thing as a shortcut to life please!
How much she pay to be featured sia? of allll the life coaches in the industry for years we get the one post-saga >
Life coaching is a profession. But I hate that a bad name like Sylvia entered this industry and make professional coaches look bad.
I hope Producer Charmaine Tan can speak to counsellors for her issues, and not get affected by Sylvia's comments on her mother. 💖
It's on the producer for choosing sylvia, knowing she is unqualified and a crook, just to get views for cna insider. so i don't sympathise with her unfortunately.
Sylvia looks “on-edge” - and also saw some of her online videos post-saga, I don’t think she’s sufficiently done with her own healing journey to be coaching others.
That's the great gulf of difference between a professional counsellor and 'a life coach '. We've all been through stuff, doesn't mean that we can tell other people what to do. She did an 8 month course 😱 I spent 5YEARS training to be a counsellor!! And a lot of the early work is exactly about 'your stuff'. Bringing your own baggage to the work is lethal. There are never ever any shortcuts! Life coaching is for the 21st century 1st world problems sort of people..if you have a serious issue please... get serious help from a professional.
No decent life coach will tell you that they can solve your problem in a session.
It’s a disappointing episode because it felt like whoever planned this didn’t do enough research to properly represent the topic.
Could have gotten Rach from Love Bonito to share her experience with her coach (Joyce Chen) or get other more recognised coaches to be featured…but it has to be Sylvia (nothing against her, but I believe there are many others who can better rep the life coaching industry)
I’m not a life coach myself but know of enough people who are in the industry, and I feel like this episode has belittled their good works.
Completely agree. Hoping for viewers discretion 🤷🏻♀️
Spot on! CNA could've spotlight a more qualified life coach. Also, there are so many aspects to one's life & healing journey. A coach at best triggers the change, the coachee still needs to put in the 'work' in his/her own healing & life journey.
Talking point. I used to have full on respect and love for the contents that was discussed on. But I think this episode is 10 steps back on the kind of respect the series has built. Just review all the comments and do a retrospect about this episode.
I have never had a life coaching session, but based on my sessions with my therapist, therapists are professional and objective. My sessions have mostly been very grounding for me, therapists are not trying to illicit an emotional response from you, and will definitely not villainize someone from your life by calling them a “bully”.
22:06 I do agree with Charmaine's conclusion. Everyone should try to find the answer within themselves first. Life coaches are not simply the answer to all your solution, after you are the one holding the power to make a change in your life, not the life coach.
However, I do believe that life coach is just somebody who assist you in your life when you just need some guidance, or that one step you might have overlooked when you are in the middle of working on yourself. It just depends on which stage of life you are in, if not life coaches is not really necessary, just a boost to your life
I like the premise of the question but just thought the show can feature a life coach with many years of experience with a history of many clients rather than someone who is relatively new to the industry… I think we viewers really want more in depth understanding of the benefits and drawbacks of life coaching
Why? Who chose Sylvia chan? I'm sure there are a lot of life coaches that are not as controversial as her. It's such a disappointing episode. I'm definitely not recommending this episode to my friends or family.
I think the point of this episode is about how dodgy life coaches are. All the other comments about how Sylvia makes life coaching look bad is missing the point
she cant even coach any one of her staff in NOC, you saying she is now qualified to give life coach advice. Keep your $$$$$. This is sham reporting.
It's TRUE, it only take ONE session with Sylvia to solve all your ISSUES.
You decide she is FOS and leave, that's why 1 session.
😂😂😂👍🏻
Charmaine u look good, especially when you smile. People who love us will continue to love us no matter what. Sometimes they mean well but come across harsh.
Sylvia is a mental patient believing she’s a life coach 🙂↔️
I...... have so many questions about the intent of this video
I am not a life coach but in my profession, I have network with enough certified executive and life coaches to know that no coach will promise that they can help you solve your problem in one session. ICF alert!
Life have no shortcut. Like the psychologist said, that's just a grey area. If the life coach manage to fix you / your problem, then you should be happy. If unfortunately they exploit you like the one in the end of the video, you can't log a police case for scam either. So might as well talk to your friend / family.
I have just completed my Diploma in Professional Coaching and someone mentioned this episode to me. I find that the episode is shallow and also has factually incorrect information, when it is stated that you get certiication included in your training. Certification by ICF requires 100 hours of coaching with 75 having to be paid and 25 can be pro bono. It also requires that you pass an extensive examn, have a certified coach approve your coaching ability through uploaded recording session and more. It is not as easy as it is portraied here to obtain ICF certification.
You can call yourself a coach and I can coach right now, but I cannot call myself certified coach as I am not yet certified. This episide seems to have been done too quickly and I would agree that someone should have found a more reputable life coach o paint a more nuanced picture of the coaching profession. Coaching is to support with changing behaviors, moving through transitions or achieving goals. It is not to deal with trauma.
sure, if you want to learn how to mess up other people's lives
This comment was made 5 minutes after the video was published, there is no way you watched the whole thing, even sped up😂
As a certified coach with the International Coach Federation, with more than 500 hours of coaching experience and an MSc in Applied Positive Psychology and Coaching Psychology, I’m sorry to say that this entire video is a severe misrepresentation of what coaching is.
1. What Sylvia Chan is doing is not coaching. Coaches don’t operate that way. Please, at the very least, consult people from the ICF to provide a more accurate representation.
2. There are many ICF-accredited coach training programs out there. How can the producer base their judgment on a 6-hour Udemy coaching course to determine whether someone should become a coach?
It’s disappointing to see CNA producing such a video and using social media IG ads to attract people into watching it.
Here to say that I’m super happy that Samantha is thriving more than ever 🎉🎉🎉
The best life coach is you! Just get quiet and think about what makes sense for you right now in your life. If you don’t know what to do, just do something and you will get feedback!
Psychiatrists study the biology. They deal with medication.
Psychologists study human behaviour, thoughts and comms. They will ask you questions that guides you to come up with your own answers.
Life coaches give you the solution to your life problem according to their POV. Someone you talk to when you stuck in moving forward, to pick their brains and experiences, for reference.
So the overlapping isn't with psychiatrists. The overlap and confusion for most people is with psychologists, life coaches and counsellors.
Great documentary. Thank you for this insightful content.
I like your ending sentences isn't life about trials and tribulations. By the way this episode gives me a fresh new perspective about the World of coaching thank you charmaine and the CNA Team.
im only listening to this while working , not watching at 8:37 i thought she started frying chicken wings jhahahahah
There are life coaches that listen to your problems and give you advice for free. They are the leaders and pastors who serve in church and do it out of love for God.
yes, but some people are so afraid of the religious portion of it , and more importantly , God sometimes can take decades to work on you , and people just wants instant fixes
Ya
There are also those who are judgmental and not doing it out of love for people!!
Free??
Oh really??
They expect you to drop $$$$ into the offering bags!!
GO DIRECTLY TO GOD
HE GIVES FREELY ✝️❤
HE CREATED you
AND KNOW YOU FROM INSIDE OUT
UPSIDE DOWN
ALL AROUND
@@godsamazinggrace5331 I've been a christian for the past 25 years , I've never dropped more than $10 a month for offering , never paid tithe .
But I've come to accept there's a business side to Christianity , especially the big umbrella of protestantism.
I guess you have to find a church that have a healthy balance of spirit vs commerce, proper churches will actually have a breakdown of how they use the collections , how much goes to community work , mission work , building maintenance etc etc
What a selfish and bad advice. Not everyone is like you that think everything is god god god. Annoyed whenever I see such a comment.
@@jannoriko7465 Just letting people know an alternative route if they find life coaches expensive and don't know where else to go. I'm not forcing anyone anyway, you can make your decision to go or not.
Why are people saying that this is the worst episode? The sylvia portion is definitely off-putting, and TP team should have went for someone else w/o controversy. Bringing sylvia in just puts the attention on her instead.
Objectively speaking, the episode touched on life coaching, spoke to a certified psychologist, a certified PCC and even an alleged victim scammed from life coaching programmes - i think the episode covers enough for awareness, and viewers after watching this is able to really think "Should I Hire a Life Coach? (Or a psychologist/therapist instead)". And if the viewer really decide to go for Life Coaching, they would know that it's probably better to go for a CERTIFIED PCC instead. Has this TP episode not done its work? I think it has.
Also kudos to Charmaine for being vulnerable in front of the camera and to the public. It's not easy. Thank you for doing that, i do hope you manage to get through your issues soon. 💪
This would have been a good platform to spread the importance of mental wellness and legitimate life coaching, but its entirely nullified by featuring Sylvia Chan- almost as if the main KPI of this episode was to have a recognised personality to garner more views
I think it's good for individuals to try and seek help to get some clarity in life, but to go to Sylvia for life coaching? Come 'on CNA, I'm sure you have better candidates to choose from.
Remove yourself from people who never reciprocates respect, friendship and love. Do not stay unless you can handle being civil, self-awareness and practicing no expectations from people. Or so just blend in discreetly and keep your inner belief stronger.
Retain those people who shows genuine humanity. Work on your Inner You and Self-love. When you have whole and balanced inner self, then your joys, love and strength will shine no matter what.
Self-love is never being selfish. No matter what happens, self-love will be one of your savior. How? Do not put all your trust, respect and heart in one basket. Keep some for yourself. Healing and recovery comes from Inner You who you remembered. Life is still beautiful.
👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻I agree, well said, so wise❤🦋😊
Psychologists and psychiatrists are much better trained than life coaches. Yet they charge a lower fee.
Isn't it simple logic to know who to go to?
is a life coach supposed to cry with you during the session?! I would think not. and when they say they spent hours and hours of training and gave something like 100 + 60 hours, 160 hours at 8 hours a day only amounts to 20 days!
listening to the podcast she did earlier with her friend dan and this short excerpt of the “life coaching”, it consistently feel like the only way to empower yourself is to blame others. not about what you achieve, not about what you are doing right, its just other ppl fault. its them, its not me. zero introspection, full on others. not to be confused with self blaming or victimisation.
Sadly, this does not feel like journalism. It is slanted against life coaching. The show lacked depth, and did not give clear explanations of the difference between life coaching and therapy. It doesn't cover the other aspects of life coaching such as executive coaching, career coaching, performance coaching, as well as on the other spectrum, the other helping areas of psychiatry, counselling and many modalities of the mental health industry. The numbers quoted for pricing has no proper reference other than Google. Very disappointing episode on national TV. This is no different from watching social media to try to understand something and jumping to conclusions. Simply terrible.
Life coaches are not psychologists and are not trained in mental health fields nor psychoanalytic theory
I guess out of all these life coaches in Singapore and they featured Sylvia was because of the content and views for this video. I am sure there are better ones out there that can give life advice to all your problems out there.
4:48 "you can come to me and say I have a problem with my boss" WOW so familiar leh sylvia
WHAHAHAAHAA
That's why she say she can relate.. she was the bad boss
8:45 Sylvia said “she should be very sorry” I don’t think she should be saying such things to her clients???
im open this from long time nobody belive in my study deep about horse racing.
She doesnt feel like shes capable of empathy given how she treated her employees back then
OMG. I can't believe this. The last thing you need is Sylvia Chan as your life coach.
Wear a helmet. Tough on in adulting. Fight the fight that everyone is fighting. Win the battles that no one speaks about. You don't need a coach to tell give you that acknowledgement of what you are doing.
Been watching Sylvia's story unfolding and am proud of how vulnerable she has become and her growth as a human being. However watching this video and seeing how she work as a coach, there are honestly quite a few questionable points.
Coaches with a clear 3rd person perspective can identify a person's issue quite easily, but to manage their emotions, process and to release as well as bringing them back into a safe space requires real technique that psychologist are trained to do. So coaches reading this, please also practice with clear ethics. When you see someone distressed and needing more professional intervention, please point them to a therapist.
Unpacked baggage that is not repacked back properly can cause more harm than good. 🙏🏻
Reading the comments, I can understand & also ask - why Sylvia? So kelong.
But good coaches don't tell ppl what to do. They actually ask good qns that makes ppl think for themselves. A lot of times, the answer is within the individual. Coaches draw it out. They don't do shadow work or go deep cos that's not supposed to be their area; that's what mental health professionals do. Life coaches also don't cry with their clients. That's not professional. Sylvia at this point is probably not ready but who's to say she can't legit do well? None of us starts out an expert. She needs to build credibility through experience & as the other commenters mentioned, she still needs to heal. I only hope she would be serious about it & don't go down her previous path & ruin it for herself & for other legit, good life coaches out there.
7:25. The counselling session: all was good until Sylvia said “she (Charmaine’s mother) should be very sorry..… so she bullied you instead..… “ . I think blaming and character-assassinating Charmaine’s mom is doing more damage than helping, because damaging her relationships with her parents will cause more turmoils for the family.
Most adults can gradually reduce the impact of childhood traumatic experiences, if they will step back and start to look at themselves from outside, rather than from the inside, playing the role of the vulnerable child again and again, and being trapped in the prison.🦋🙁
If you decide to seek guidance in your life, health, career or relationships, make sure to learn more about the coach's P-E-P. Is there a step-by-step PROCESS that you'll go through to get results? Or is it a wing-it sorta style? Next, does the coach/mentor have EXPERIENCE in the area where you're seeking support? You decide if you care more about the years of experience or the experience of getting success in the field. And, finally, whether you feel like you can connect with the coach's PERSONALITY because you'll need to feel comfortable to open up and share your goals and challenges. If the coach has free resources, please consume as much as you can before making your decision!
I've transitioned from 10+ years in the corporate world into a career coach today, and above is the same advice I give to anyone interested in working with me or signup for my career programs. Should only work with people you can truly help IMHO. Good luck and take care!
Jialat sia! Most coaches themselves need to be coached. My ex boss also another ki siao, gila gila one also went on to become a life coach. Zzzzz
As a viewer I am feeling like that the reporter is representing a certain level of skepticism and cynicism on the industry of life coach, even the music is given the vibes. While it surfaces the skepticism and calls out the shady things that happen in the industry, it is also not representative of the full spectrum, including those who genuinely wants to help others through coaching.
Viewers watch with care and not be skewed by the producers' POV as well.
If you are in need of help and speaking to a few prospective coaches, lean on your own judgment of who is in front of you and determine if they are suitable *for* you and match your values.
Also recommended to maintain some level of awareness if you are feeling manipulated or if something starts to feel off in the process.
Agree, the crew/producer behind this episode has already formed a biased view against life coaches. Mainly focusing on negative aspects/experiences and interviewing a controversial person who is still fairly new as a life coach. I had expected more from CNA than to create such “sensational” contents to gain more publicity for their contents. Most disappointed.
"let's get Sylvia to do one life coaching session"
"let's do a free online course"
ok we're good to produce an episode on life coaching
CNA you can do better...
Agree. obviously this lead to biases… not with the right sample size, not with the right approach. It’s not objective
One of worst CNA episode
I thought CNA is usually selective about professionals they feature. I am logging out after reading it is Sylvia - not wasting my time.
9:15 I know that the show must go on and recording needs to continue, but.......man, Charmaine needed a hug there. A friend to hold her at that moment to let her know that even if things aren't going to be fine, she won't be journeying alone.
I love talking point but somehow I gave up watching this episode just 2 mins into it.
Talking point can be boring..
Worst Episode
It's actually quite painful watching this woman bringing painful issues to someone who was totally incompetent and treated her like they were just a couple of girlfriends chatting over coffee 😱
At any time a business is specifically targeting a customer base that is desperate, a scam can be perpetrated.
0:53 Charmaine’s 2 pals’ sharing are very poignant: that they hv learnt to understand themselves better, able to pinpoint where are their emotional blockages and how to set themselves free from getting stuck. To discover that it wasn’t work itself that was stressing her out, but rather, her PERCEPTIONS of the various situations.
They nailed it, by identifying the root causes of issues instead of trying to deal with the superficial symptoms of stress.
Life coaching by someone who has issues herself, is as effective as going to the church and praying to god that you want to be rich.
Hopefully the talking point producer knows she is going great work ! I would probably trust a psychologist more.
The problem is people are complicated, it's tough to do but easy to say; just be content with yourself first, accept people opinion but filter and consider which one is good for you.
Even if other assist or showing you some way on how to deal with things, doesn't mean it will be fit for you. do what makes you happy yet do not bother or disturb others life.
so what if you are fat?, are you gonna slim down because others opinion?. do their opinion matter to you?, will they even help you when you are down?. Think these through and get proper rest when you are tired.
life is short, stop chasing approval from others when at the end, they don't really matter. bad things happen so you can appreciate the good and life is definitely a roller coaster.
Sylvia looks perpetually on edge and annoyed.
Life is a journey. Learn to recognise and accept that not all problems need a solution.
This is really a first ever disappointing episode of Talking Point.
Thank you Ms,Sylvia chan im from singapore .Np pure water kaki.last time and Datok 3 devil face.but now is C4.im hope now you know to done.why nobody want to let dame leaning the true
Life coaches and motivational speakers are really just legit conmen out to exploit people’s vulnerabilities.
Empathy is a great tool and skill to use. For most people with dysfunctional backgrounds, at first they just really want to be heard, no solution needed. But they dont know that... yet. I will stop here for now.
Here you go, CNA. I hope youre happy with the amount of video views youre getting. Hit kpi alr mah? Can we pls not feature people like Sylvia on talking point next time 🙏
This 'life coach' comes in all types of forms. There's even some where they encourage people that have joined them to bring in more people and in return they would get some sort of "compensation" / "discounts", like what Harry went through but his is pretty extreme that he has to meet with a KPI??! . All these 'coaches' like to prey on people's emotions.
Curious if this is paid sponsorship
8 months and a course later😂
My sentiment is that the video is leaning towards the opinion of being not-for-life coaches so I doubt it is a sponsorship of any kind but more so a news piece because given Singapore's population, the number of ICF-certified coaches we have is indeed a lot.
My opinion is that the rise of life coaches might be due to the decline in religiosity & community, the rise of mental issues along with the stigma of seeking a therapists/psychologist. Life coaches fill this gap. Whether they're genuinely helpful or not, I'm not sure.
so... she basically "bounced back" by finding another "career" that she could "manipulate" and "gaslight" but this time round the recipent has to pay huge sums for it ?
that's great! look ma, we solved unemployment in SG.
man anyone paying for her life coach seriously needs to reflect on life.. donating that money might make more sense
Overall this episode is very valuable and balanced. Good to share it with others.😊👍🏻
A much better choice will be your in house host, Steve (Chia). Someone I would respect and look up to. Someone is not public controversial. Unless Steve mess up his own life too.
Rather spend the money on Geylang ,massage therapist...for eight months intensive session. Cheaper and more effective.
CNA please bring up this issue to MOH before more milenias & gen Z fall victims to these "life coach" who are "$ suckers" & not medically certified - they will only do more damage to those who are already emotionally & mentally weak
Of all the life coaches in Singapore, you choose one who claims to be a life coach just because she finished a course. I think she needs to continued to be life coached at this moment. What a waste of time!
CNA, i always thought you were a trustworthy source of truth and journalism, but apparently not because why will you find someone that still cant change herself in a better way?!
Let's always do alot of good ❤
Nam myoho renge kyo
it's an interesting topic ...i clicked and watched.. and your editor buay pai (= not bad. actually good)
I couldn't bear to complete the episode because it's definitely not going to be insightful. Unlike other Talking Point episodes where 'legitimate' stakeholders or 'professionals in their fields' were interviewed to share their perspectives, this one seems kind of absurd - not gonna flame anyone in this video though. But if you are going through a difficult time, please reach out to a counselor, social worker, etc. They are definitely more trained to support you in the betterment of yourself.
Life coach is like counsellor
Slyvia??? One in a million and you have her to be the coach plus knowing her infamous background towards her NOC employees? Nah man, this show is a circus. There are so many well qualified coaches other than this nub kid sylvia
they know what they are doing , sylvia is a hot topic of course its gonna draw the views from people who wants to be rage baited
There is no quick fix in life. This is a grey area with no regulations, be very wary.
Basically a free ads for Slyvia. I think hospital is the best place & no some life coach 😅
Omg the kpi is scam
It is all these unqualified coaches that bring a bad name to all the professional and certified coaches and the coaching industry. This is indeed the worse episode of talking points. Please get the facts right, interview the right people and let's not be biased
Are there even qualified coaches in the first place? Which body is the one giving certification? What i see is various different people/companies giving out their own coaching certs/license.
I would not have Sylvia as my life coach. i don't wanna be as cray as her.
Take it with a big pinch of salt
Life coaches are self proclaimed experts
A person who has experienced life's journey of ups and downs with many curved balls are not even qualified enough to tell another how to live their lives nor resolve their life's issues!!
Every person is uniquely different
If psychiatry is pseudo science, life coaching is double pseudo science.
Life coaching is a novelty fad and an attempt to re-term emotional consultancy. Kinda like calling a telephone operator as a communication network consultant.
Don't insult psychiatry - they are firstly fully qualified doctors who take on specialization to treat mental illnesses. Don't anyhow mix up with other nonsense and anyhow insult a profession you don't know about.
@@eatdriveplay Psychiatry IS pseudo science. Period.
I have always been a fan of CNA.
U guys really got it wrong this time. Of all life coaches out there, her?
You might be guessing why so much? Maybe she repented her past. Wow about people she victimised? How will this interview impacts them?
I dont know but…..
Wanted to watch but saw that the life coach is Sylvia lmao. Turned it off immediately.
Is Charmaine's self body image issue addressed after one session?
Ya she didn't say if Sylvia's claim was true but I guess not la. I do believe that some issues can be 'resolved' in one session though because I have a friend who can just say a few sentences and make ppl see the light. If I show him this video, I think he will see all the money he should be earning from listening to ppl's problems. 😆
My "life coach" costs 50$ in Geylang.