I'm running FS + Relentless > Cycle of Hatred + Inertia, 1 point in Chaotic Disposition, no ESSB, no GT, no FBarr, no SD. Keystones: AFI + AMN and so far feels the smoothest gameplay, not sure about if the numbera can be that competitive, but it's def a great DH experience
Stopped played DH because of the boring mover game play and 100 buttons to click. I hope the no movers will get more attention so dh gets fun again. Like survival today.
thankfully in raids you don't have to play that cancer, at least for now, you can play aldrachi SD which is equal to the momentum/inertia soulscar/essb cancer playstyle
so not taking vengeful retreat or movement talents inertia in aoe, again illusion of choice for DH, backflipping in dps rotation sucks I hate inertia, thank you very much for showing non mover options
In AOE builds, simpler will almost always be better. More consistency = more damage and the less strict the rotation the easier it is to use your utility when needed vs “I need to get out x y z I ruin a burst”
@@DaBombDiggidy88 this isn’t necessarily true. Aldrachi is MUCH More consistent in terms of damage. While Fel-Scarred is simpler, Aldrachi isn’t complex to the degree where a average to above average player is going to bungle it so hard to not make it worth it
Thanks, as an average (or slightly worse player) I'm going to take this as meaning aldrachi is worth the risk, thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know
I never do negative comments but man, you are the only one experienced DH who is making ,,guide videos" and you completely dont care about what you will upload, firstly on dummies you got turned on nice spell order addon to show us.... but it will be re-layered by some Blizzard dummies spell order, then you shows rotation but you miss this miss that miss proc and you say: ,,whatever"...then you forgot to turn on again the spell order addon and you start speaking the spell order and in middle of rotation you say: BOOP, BOOP..wtf for spell is BOOP BOOP..like imagine some new player want learn some rotation for DH you are on top of youtube algorithm and he will find this...he will never play DH i swear.
@@lSuXeRl dawg this isn’t a guide lmao I appreciate your feedback but this isn’t the type of super polished video like my guide videos are, this is basically just me showing early test versions of what’s happening I obviously do care about what I upload, and I think you’re completely overblowing basically all of that stuff lol
@@VooDooSaurus i got respect for you..nothing personal, i just wrote into search bar DH guide and you are first video not be older then 3 months, it kinda act like guide video but yeah..i was just hard focused to learn some new stuff but after these ,,whatever" and BOOP BOOP i just faking smash my mouse and ragequit that video :D sorry for being more emotional..its my 4th char today learning rotations from TWW
@@lSuXeRl there will be a full on rotational guide later before s1 starts who’s intention will be to actually teach stuff, this is a much more relaxed video
Hi ! Good video as always Are you planning to wait for the final release of TWW before making a complete guide on DH DPS (rotation, gear, embellishments, etc.) ?
@@LeumasLSNTV yup, the full guide will come out sometime between the launch of the expansion and the launch of season 1 so that it can be as accurate as possible
@@ds8867 it’s not good in dungeons no, and most of the damage from fel scarred comes from the demonsurges themselves now which means you don’t want to extend meta
@@vihtakvlt it’s for raid, SD just doesn’t make a lot of sense for m+. Those builds do oversim just due to their nature, they’re probably about it equal to inertia in a raid environment
@@VooDooSaurus so if they are equal to intertia and essence break in raids, that just means SD is much better, cuz imagine having to play inertia and ass-b while you could just play demonic which is miles more pleasant to play xd unlucko we still have to play that bloated uptime cancer in m+ though :(
Hi, which build would you recommend for a newer player wanting to main havoc in the war within? I can use maxdps for rotation help. My goal will be pushing mythic keys as time goes on.. Willing to learn whatever will be best for that!! Thanks!
@@nixontristan wouldn’t recommend rotation helpers, they’re never that accurate especially for havoc and don’t really help you to learn. Fel-scarred is going to be significantly easier for a newer player, But if you end up pushing high m+ you’ll want to switch to Aldrachi
Hot take, but the more i play Havoc, the more i wish Essence Break didn't exist. I think mover and no mover would be more enjoyable with abilities like Fel Barrage and Glaive Tempest getting propped up in its place. And would help a little with Aldrachi
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I'm running FS + Relentless > Cycle of Hatred + Inertia, 1 point in Chaotic Disposition, no ESSB, no GT, no FBarr, no SD.
Keystones: AFI + AMN
and so far feels the smoothest gameplay, not sure about if the numbera can be that competitive, but it's def a great DH experience
Thanks for showing off a no-mover. I know the movers often end up rocking more dps, but for folks like me no-movers are awesome lol
i know theres a lot of people who dont want to play mover, so i try to include it when i can :)
I'm a no-mover fan also!
Stopped played DH because of the boring mover game play and 100 buttons to click. I hope the no movers will get more attention so dh gets fun again. Like survival today.
They are just ruining DH more and more going to strong into movement and throw builds… RIP
thankfully in raids you don't have to play that cancer, at least for now, you can play aldrachi SD which is equal to the momentum/inertia soulscar/essb cancer playstyle
It doesnt really matter what talents you use for your weekly +10 keys
@@opmami said by a true player that can’t do anything past a +6 😂
@@bingobongo8458 I was doing +28 keys in s3, dw about it, my point still stands
@@bingobongo8458 I was doing +28 keys in s3, dw about it, my point still stands
so not taking vengeful retreat or movement talents inertia in aoe, again illusion of choice for DH, backflipping in dps rotation sucks I hate inertia, thank you very much for showing non mover options
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In AOE builds, simpler will almost always be better. More consistency = more damage and the less strict the rotation the easier it is to use your utility when needed vs “I need to get out x y z I ruin a burst”
@@DaBombDiggidy88 this isn’t necessarily true. Aldrachi is MUCH More consistent in terms of damage. While Fel-Scarred is simpler, Aldrachi isn’t complex to the degree where a average to above average player is going to bungle it so hard to not make it worth it
Thanks, as an average (or slightly worse player) I'm going to take this as meaning aldrachi is worth the risk, thanks, this is exactly what I wanted to know
@@VooDooSaurus good to know thanks!
I never do negative comments but man, you are the only one experienced DH who is making ,,guide videos" and you completely dont care about what you will upload, firstly on dummies you got turned on nice spell order addon to show us.... but it will be re-layered by some Blizzard dummies spell order, then you shows rotation but you miss this miss that miss proc and you say: ,,whatever"...then you forgot to turn on again the spell order addon and you start speaking the spell order and in middle of rotation you say: BOOP, BOOP..wtf for spell is BOOP BOOP..like imagine some new player want learn some rotation for DH you are on top of youtube algorithm and he will find this...he will never play DH i swear.
@@lSuXeRl dawg this isn’t a guide lmao
I appreciate your feedback but this isn’t the type of super polished video like my guide videos are, this is basically just me showing early test versions of what’s happening
I obviously do care about what I upload, and I think you’re completely overblowing basically all of that stuff lol
@@VooDooSaurus i got respect for you..nothing personal, i just wrote into search bar DH guide and you are first video not be older then 3 months, it kinda act like guide video but yeah..i was just hard focused to learn some new stuff but after these ,,whatever" and BOOP BOOP i just faking smash my mouse and ragequit that video :D sorry for being more emotional..its my 4th char today learning rotations from TWW
@@lSuXeRl there will be a full on rotational guide later before s1 starts who’s intention will be to actually teach stuff, this is a much more relaxed video
Hi ! Good video as always
Are you planning to wait for the final release of TWW before making a complete guide on DH DPS (rotation, gear, embellishments, etc.) ?
@@LeumasLSNTV yup, the full guide will come out sometime between the launch of the expansion and the launch of season 1 so that it can be as accurate as possible
@@VooDooSaurus Okay ! I can't wait for it !
Shattered Destiny is not good? I thought for Fel Scarred you wanna be in demon form as long as you can. Just me thinkin with my small brain tho
@@ds8867 it’s not good in dungeons no, and most of the damage from fel scarred comes from the demonsurges themselves now which means you don’t want to extend meta
@@VooDooSaurus oki thanks
Been seeing few Aldrachi SD builds simming high but I guess its mostly for ST / Raid or is it just some vacuum sim shenaningans for copium?
@@vihtakvlt it’s for raid, SD just doesn’t make a lot of sense for m+.
Those builds do oversim just due to their nature, they’re probably about it equal to inertia in a raid environment
@@VooDooSaurus so if they are equal to intertia and essence break in raids, that just means SD is much better, cuz imagine having to play inertia and ass-b while you could just play demonic which is miles more pleasant to play xd unlucko we still have to play that bloated uptime cancer in m+ though :(
Don’t think I’ve used Fel barrage since Zek’voz prog
@@Daynish we have the points now with this build so it’s totally usable
best dh videos!
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Cool that fel scarred seems to be good in m+. Id be really surprised if they did anything else to DH minus fixing burning blades. Also welcome back
Yo thanks for great content big man !
Do you share your Dh wa By any chance ? :)
Is sigil of spite bad to take?
@@baka5626 we take it for Aldrachi, not for Fel Scarred
These specs had so much potential. Why did they just give up on them...
Hi, which build would you recommend for a newer player wanting to main havoc in the war within?
I can use maxdps for rotation help. My goal will be pushing mythic keys as time goes on.. Willing to learn whatever will be best for that!!
Thanks!
@@nixontristan wouldn’t recommend rotation helpers, they’re never that accurate especially for havoc and don’t really help you to learn.
Fel-scarred is going to be significantly easier for a newer player, But if you end up pushing high m+ you’ll want to switch to Aldrachi
so fel-scarred is kinda based on being in meta, or going into meta, for demonsurge, but it's never worth to take CoH in any build? weird
cycle in m+ isn’t very good
How good is SD in Mythic plus?
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Hi shattered destiny is viable or really bad atm ? I really like the gameplay extend meta
viable in raid, not great in m+ but it depends on what key level you're doing
@@VooDooSaurus i do high level, thx for answer mate !
nice video as usual
Hot take, but the more i play Havoc, the more i wish Essence Break didn't exist. I think mover and no mover would be more enjoyable with abilities like Fel Barrage and Glaive Tempest getting propped up in its place. And would help a little with Aldrachi
Ive been playing DH since legion pre patch and imo inertia is the best thing to happen to havoc ever. Been enjoying havoc so much after it was added.
they need to remove inertia its toxic that u have to use your mobilty for a buff. other than that really good video