Currency system at this point is now classic Choy meme. As great as it would be, sadly it is like beating a dead horse over and over again. Unfortunately, I don't think BHVR even considers doing that.
One thing they could do is make your currency system a side mode to test how well it works. Why rush it into the base game when it could be a side mode for testing? As a lot of testing will be required to get all the values right and possible additional costs like a stacking cost increase for stacking slowdown perks. (Edit sorry if this idea was already in your cost system)Like Ruin by itself is fine as a lone slowdown perk but stacking it with other slowdown perks causes a flat and/or % cost increase. However stacking Ruin with other Hexes have no such downside. So running Ruin/Undying would cost less points then running Ruin/Surge, even if both Undying and Surge cost the same points.
I personally feel like the class system they added into 2v8 was amazing , i was able to bring in friends who never played and it was may more simple to explain than the perk system, i feel like if we want to have a balanced game with less sweat both for killers and survivors then 1v4 with class system would be a great approach
2v8 and chaos shuffle were good for me because the perks were less opressive. No super gen defense or super second chance squads. People are not that good in the game so getting cheesed got super rare. 2v8 made killers being able to play with friends so learning nurse without commiting a crime was possible. Once i made a dbd tournament and perks had "points" cost to equip so i could balance the points like you said. Everything was good and super tight to watch
I feel like they should add an arcade mode of sorts, rotating game modes every week so it stays sorta fresh and the queue times for the normal mode don’t get messed up
While it sounds good on paper, in practice it would be a nightmare to balance. To make it work they have to: - Consider the strength of each killer, and give them the amount of points they need/deserve. - Concider that perks may work on certain killers better than others. They would have to increase the prices of some perks because of that one killer or balance a price of EACH perk on EACH killer. For example: I'm all ears - busted on the Nurse, okay on any other killer. Unforseen - a really good perk on the most of killers, but isn't very good on loud characters like The Knight for example, or Chucky with a whole laughing thing while undetectable. BBQ and Chilli - really good on high mobility killers, isn't that great on others. And I'm not even talking about the fact that this system would simply kill all the fun in making builds, because "These two perks are too strong, play with something else!" "Nuh uh! Rapid Brutality is too good on The Singularity! Play with three perks because of it!"
In 2v8 perks are not an issue, yet Nurse is still extremely oppressive in the right hands because of her power. So let's say in the normal mode she would be limited with perk choice, she'd still have potential to be top tier regardless. The power needs adjustment because as a killer she literally breaks the game and has done for like what, 7ish years now. Currently 2v8 is great because it adds a degree of simplicity for players of all levels, you just pick your character and/or class and you're good to go. Now Chaos Shuffle is a bit more complicated as it requires a degree of prior knowledge of perks and what works with what to maximise their potential, (not everyone has time to read their description in the match). Of course both modes have room to improve, but something so simple of going back to basics where a meta doesn't dictate everything can make a big difference in fun for sure. I really don't see a currency system changing much as experienced players will just try to find the best possible builds with it and we'd be back to square one. For casual players or newer ones, having to strategise that much could be off putting, some just want to play the game and have fun you know.
My Killer Mentality for SBMM Mode: "If the survivors aren't going to hold back on their builds or tactics... Why should I?" Honestly, it's all part of the game, and what the devs gave us, so there's no reason to hold back on tactics or builds. Anyone who does is either experimenting, trying to throw the other side off, or ignorant. Whereas anyone who goes all out is where the real challenge of the game presents itself. It's not fair, but it's also unrestrained and vicious, and if you can't bring yourself to being just as dirty as the other side, then you're playing the wrong game. Like it or not, DbD is a Competitive game! Deciding to play casual or experimental is welcome and, more often than not, fun, but it won't get you anywhere in the grand scheme of things. At least not fast. Killers who complain about survivors tactics/perks just need to learn to be more ruthless with their own builds and tactics. Survivors who complain about Killers builds and Tactics, simply need to learn to accept them and adjust their own. Complaining about what the Devs give each side is a waste of time if you don't consider your own sides contributions to the fray. DBD is a school of hard knocks: If you don't learn to adapt, you're gonna suffer, and there's nothing you can do about it, until you do!
In my opinion DBD was never meant to be treated like a competitive game but instead as a fun chaotic party game. sense the introduction of SBMM it has zapped out almost all of the fun of the game, stuff being being nerfed out of a reaction, people are quick to get the devs to nerf a perk even though there is a perk that counters that perk but refuse to bring it because it ruins their meta builds. Killers prioritizing kills over hooks, Survivors genrushing. It all got bland from both sides. Chaos Shuffle came out and took all of our meta builds and threw them in the trash and had us play the game with perks we never thought we would use or perks we never would have never use because we got to try a character we didn't own's perks. We didn't know what we were going to get, but it was guaranteed we weren't going to get the same 4 perks every game. 2v8 had no perks but a class system, more people, more gens, 2 Killers, it was something that people wanted for years. and guess what... it was fun and chaotic... something that dbd was in the past... and could be if the devs want it to be.
Another complication point on this currency system is that some perks are only strong/bad on specific killers. Like lethal pursuer on nurse/blight or jolt on m2 killers. So perks should cost different amounts of points depending on wich killer you are putting them on
Counterargument: Lights Out should've been in a similar boat as 2v8 and Chaos Shuffle, but it wasn't *as well* received (although people did like it a bit as a novelty). Nobody had any perks in Lights Out, so your opponents definitely weren't bringing overpowered stuff. Even so, it just wasn't as popular. I think what makes 2v8 and Chaos Shuffle well-liked is that they're more chaotic!
I like currency system, sometimes want to try some weak perks, but with how much sweat the game rn and some of these perks are very very situational makes me not want to. but if i can equip 5-6 mid/weak perks i will. For me 2v8 should not be permenant. if theres other mode should be 'ranked' for comps and 'quick play' for casuals.
why are Survivors so salty all the time. i litterally got my no kills this one match and they just unloaded on my calling me names saying i should KMS just being horrid people. i was using Myers and trying out a new build and it wasnt very good. but damn they were so mean i dont even want to play anymore lol
I would like to see a mode where the survivors have no offerings, the killer can select the map and there are no add-ons or items. For perks, players are locked to the character's teachable perks, plus a static new perk. For killers, a perk that decreases repair speeds by 60%, decreasing by 1% every second that procs at the start of the match. For survivors, a perk that allows them to pick themselves up and unhook themselves after being on the hook for 60 seconds, regardless of stage. I have a theory that these are part of the issue with the game. And of course, no SBMM but playtime based matchmaking (the more you played the game, the role and the killer, the higher the rating). This is just a theory based on the success of 2v8 and Chaos Shuffle.
It still sounds like a good idea but might not vibe with everyone. Maybe a different way to see it, color coded to mix and match. Don't scare them with numbers. 😂
I don't want any new system or perks to come to the 2v8 game mode. It futher complicates it and isn't needed. The killers with their abilities and innate perks is great and should be the way they continue. Same with the classes.
All I want behavior to do is fix their stupid ass hit validation servers. Times where it's supposed to hit doesn't hit, times where it's not supposed to hit, it hits. Fix map balance. Times where there's way too many dead zones and way too connecting loops. 8 years and most of this hasn't been addressed
Just make your currency cost based on pick rate for perks / addon and on kill rate for the killer (And obviously make it affected by MMR so nurse is not free)
I think the problem with balance at this point is that most everything that feels unfun or oppressive usually comes from a combination of perks, and not an individual one (maybe distortion but ykn)... nobody really complains about slowdowns until you start stacking them, or like weave/franklins and enduring/spirit fury all being perks clearly meant to combo with each other, their parts are a lot less annoying to deal with than the whole. This and the fact that a lot of perks have alternatives with functionally similar effects... stacking healing on survivor or even just trying to account for how many different aura reveal perks and addons you may have to consider has made the ability to predict and play around each other's perks way muddier, which I think was a huge part of the skill and fun of the game.
I agree with the currency system. But Nurse still needs to be nerfed. Empty build she is still too much. She either needs to get her lunge after blinking shortened, or have to wait a second after blinkg to swing.
let's say if DbD puts the pick 10 system in the 2v8 mode or a separate mode altogether. I'm pretty sure DbD will screw up the 2v8 pick 10 system. I think they should put it as a separate game mode.
I just don't trust behavior anymore. They made 2 of my 5 P100s just weaker because of complaining. They don't care how people feel and I feel they don't care about balancing they care more about how people feel. For example trickster was never strong or the weakest but they reworked him to make him feel more fun to play against and doing so made him weaker. The same thing with knight blight. The only good rework they have done is billy.
Would it be better if there was a pre set perk selection or randomize it? Killer have no add ons and survivor’s can find items on chest and no map offerings
it would be cool next year they start adding these game modes, but at the same time I think dbd cannot manage multiple game modes or even two. It took them so long to put a patch out for the generator bug and the patch was meant to fix stuff instead it caused some more problems.
the playerbase is so small that introducing more than one game mode cannibalizes the gamemodes as you can see with the new queue times on the standard mode now
2v8 is very new. We need to give it time to truly see if it's still got the appeal once the honeymoon period is over. I understand you're proud of your currency idea, but I stand by my past criticisms that it would only stagnate the game. You've made many videos on this, at this point it just feels like you're clawing for any shred of evidence or confirmation bias that it would work. Let it go brother. No hate intended, it's an interesting idea none the less and it's good to see people looking at solutions to issues rather than just clowning on the devs.
The currency system should be a ranked mode thing rather than base game so that if people wanna try something they can't on currency system they still can in some way
go back to old graphics, bring back the old atmosphere of maps, revert the matchmaking to the old one and keep all the quality of life changes and keep every game mode, dbd is saved
Bro thinks the black ops load out system could help DBD and as someone with just a small fraction of your play time its kinda scary the dumb ideas I hear you people come up with DBD needs a ranked mode where yes you can limit/block certain perks/ad ons from being on certain killers/survivors or maps w.e the core game doesn't have to change all that much I feel like 1v4 should always be survivors against the odds and a scary experience as in your always in fear of dying thats the DBD I fell in love with that is the fun its ridiculous as the game becomes more and more survivor sided I keep hearing more and more how the game isn't fun smh wake you people are killing the game we all love just relax nothing is perfect....
Choy my man. Stop bringing currency thing in every single video. Thats so horrible. Im sorry to say that. Its just my opinion. Limiting killers and survivors in competetive game destroys the fun for both side. And yes im say competitive and not party game because mmr existing. And this game have not enough players to have multiple game mode such as rank and normal. So... limiting people in the only gamemode its just not gonna work. Despite this, i agree with any other point you made❤️
DBD isn't competitive, its a broken shitshow. It's the community that has tried to make it competitive despite the 2v8 popularity showing no one cares about the competitive scene, to further this the dbd E-sports was also canceled because again, No one cared nor desired it.
In my experience everyone limits themselves to 4 gen regressions/preventions and second chances on survivor, at the very least people might try something different
@HPLovesCraftsCat let me to not agree with that. Apparently, even in this game mode, people sweat because mmr is working in this mode! ( you don't gain or lose mmr, but you match up with similar mmr people). And about community you are 100% percent right... this game has one of the worst communities I have ever seen, but its the nature of humans you know? You can't really expect everyone to chill when they are facing another human in real time. And about E sport I have to say there's many games with ranking system which are not in E sports so being or not being In E sports doesn't mean the game is not competitive. It's a onlind pvp game with a skill base matchmaking after all.( I don't say it's working perfectly I'm just saying it exists)
@LightWavess and who is gonna make the decision that which killer should have more or less limits ? Bhvr ? No thanks man. The recent changes such as hook respawn and 10 second extra gen time and limiting gen kick just prove how clueless they are about the game they made.
Currency system at this point is now classic Choy meme. As great as it would be, sadly it is like beating a dead horse over and over again. Unfortunately, I don't think BHVR even considers doing that.
True i think it would complicate a simple game too much
I would at least like to play any killer in 2v8 especially Michael or ghostface
I feel like the simplicity of the game modes is what makes them fun. Especially when you don't have to worry about 200+ perks.
"Thats why currency system-" ALRIGHT I GET IT
Alright but what about my build allowance system?
Choy: 2v8 is fun
Me: meanwhile 3 gens get popped when i get a down lol
I hate the idea of a currency build system
One thing they could do is make your currency system a side mode to test how well it works.
Why rush it into the base game when it could be a side mode for testing? As a lot of testing will be required to get all the values right and possible additional costs like a stacking cost increase for stacking slowdown perks.
(Edit sorry if this idea was already in your cost system)Like Ruin by itself is fine as a lone slowdown perk but stacking it with other slowdown perks causes a flat and/or % cost increase. However stacking Ruin with other Hexes have no such downside. So running Ruin/Undying would cost less points then running Ruin/Surge, even if both Undying and Surge cost the same points.
I personally feel like the class system they added into 2v8 was amazing , i was able to bring in friends who never played and it was may more simple to explain than the perk system, i feel like if we want to have a balanced game with less sweat both for killers and survivors then 1v4 with class system would be a great approach
2v8 and chaos shuffle were good for me because the perks were less opressive. No super gen defense or super second chance squads. People are not that good in the game so getting cheesed got super rare. 2v8 made killers being able to play with friends so learning nurse without commiting a crime was possible.
Once i made a dbd tournament and perks had "points" cost to equip so i could balance the points like you said. Everything was good and super tight to watch
I feel like they should add an arcade mode of sorts, rotating game modes every week so it stays sorta fresh and the queue times for the normal mode don’t get messed up
While it sounds good on paper, in practice it would be a nightmare to balance.
To make it work they have to:
- Consider the strength of each killer, and give them the amount of points they need/deserve.
- Concider that perks may work on certain killers better than others. They would have to increase the prices of some perks because of that one killer or balance a price of EACH perk on EACH killer.
For example:
I'm all ears - busted on the Nurse, okay on any other killer.
Unforseen - a really good perk on the most of killers, but isn't very good on loud characters like The Knight for example, or Chucky with a whole laughing thing while undetectable.
BBQ and Chilli - really good on high mobility killers, isn't that great on others.
And I'm not even talking about the fact that this system would simply kill all the fun in making builds, because
"These two perks are too strong, play with something else!"
"Nuh uh! Rapid Brutality is too good on The Singularity! Play with three perks because of it!"
In 2v8 perks are not an issue, yet Nurse is still extremely oppressive in the right hands because of her power. So let's say in the normal mode she would be limited with perk choice, she'd still have potential to be top tier regardless. The power needs adjustment because as a killer she literally breaks the game and has done for like what, 7ish years now.
Currently 2v8 is great because it adds a degree of simplicity for players of all levels, you just pick your character and/or class and you're good to go. Now Chaos Shuffle is a bit more complicated as it requires a degree of prior knowledge of perks and what works with what to maximise their potential, (not everyone has time to read their description in the match). Of course both modes have room to improve, but something so simple of going back to basics where a meta doesn't dictate everything can make a big difference in fun for sure.
I really don't see a currency system changing much as experienced players will just try to find the best possible builds with it and we'd be back to square one. For casual players or newer ones, having to strategise that much could be off putting, some just want to play the game and have fun you know.
My Killer Mentality for SBMM Mode: "If the survivors aren't going to hold back on their builds or tactics... Why should I?"
Honestly, it's all part of the game, and what the devs gave us, so there's no reason to hold back on tactics or builds. Anyone who does is either experimenting, trying to throw the other side off, or ignorant. Whereas anyone who goes all out is where the real challenge of the game presents itself. It's not fair, but it's also unrestrained and vicious, and if you can't bring yourself to being just as dirty as the other side, then you're playing the wrong game. Like it or not, DbD is a Competitive game! Deciding to play casual or experimental is welcome and, more often than not, fun, but it won't get you anywhere in the grand scheme of things. At least not fast.
Killers who complain about survivors tactics/perks just need to learn to be more ruthless with their own builds and tactics. Survivors who complain about Killers builds and Tactics, simply need to learn to accept them and adjust their own. Complaining about what the Devs give each side is a waste of time if you don't consider your own sides contributions to the fray.
DBD is a school of hard knocks: If you don't learn to adapt, you're gonna suffer, and there's nothing you can do about it, until you do!
In my opinion DBD was never meant to be treated like a competitive game but instead as a fun chaotic party game.
sense the introduction of SBMM it has zapped out almost all of the fun of the game, stuff being being nerfed out of a reaction, people are quick to get the devs to nerf a perk even though there is a perk that counters that perk but refuse to bring it because it ruins their meta builds.
Killers prioritizing kills over hooks, Survivors genrushing.
It all got bland from both sides.
Chaos Shuffle came out and took all of our meta builds and threw them in the trash and had us play the game with perks we never thought we would use or perks we never would have never use because we got to try a character we didn't own's perks.
We didn't know what we were going to get, but it was guaranteed we weren't going to get the same 4 perks every game.
2v8 had no perks but a class system, more people, more gens, 2 Killers, it was something that people wanted for years.
and guess what... it was fun and chaotic... something that dbd was in the past... and could be if the devs want it to be.
The MvC2 community does this with some tournaments.
Another complication point on this currency system is that some perks are only strong/bad on specific killers. Like lethal pursuer on nurse/blight or jolt on m2 killers. So perks should cost different amounts of points depending on wich killer you are putting them on
Thats likely the main reason bhvr wont add it, thats a ton of work to balance all perks on every killer on top of what they already do.
I agree that its because it doesnt let the player use the strongest thing imaginable
Counterargument: Lights Out should've been in a similar boat as 2v8 and Chaos Shuffle, but it wasn't *as well* received (although people did like it a bit as a novelty). Nobody had any perks in Lights Out, so your opponents definitely weren't bringing overpowered stuff. Even so, it just wasn't as popular.
I think what makes 2v8 and Chaos Shuffle well-liked is that they're more chaotic!
Funny enough I (and my fellow killer) went against an 8-man SWF, was twice as brutal as standard.
yep.
That mode is easily survivor sided. Just the average survivor is cheeks and the free weekend didn't help too.
they will never fix this game. sad but true
bro im 2 minutes in just say the point system man. i know its coming and the buildup is still going. the pressure is gonna blow!
Currency system supremacy stand UP!!!
I like currency system, sometimes want to try some weak perks, but with how much sweat the game rn and some of these perks are very very situational makes me not want to.
but if i can equip 5-6 mid/weak perks i will.
For me 2v8 should not be permenant.
if theres other mode should be 'ranked' for comps and 'quick play' for casuals.
why are Survivors so salty all the time. i litterally got my no kills this one match and they just unloaded on my calling me names saying i should KMS just being horrid people. i was using Myers and trying out a new build and it wasnt very good. but damn they were so mean i dont even want to play anymore lol
Same here. I was testing the nerfed Knight. People blasted me in chat even tjo i got 0k
I would like to see a mode where the survivors have no offerings, the killer can select the map and there are no add-ons or items. For perks, players are locked to the character's teachable perks, plus a static new perk. For killers, a perk that decreases repair speeds by 60%, decreasing by 1% every second that procs at the start of the match. For survivors, a perk that allows them to pick themselves up and unhook themselves after being on the hook for 60 seconds, regardless of stage. I have a theory that these are part of the issue with the game. And of course, no SBMM but playtime based matchmaking (the more you played the game, the role and the killer, the higher the rating). This is just a theory based on the success of 2v8 and Chaos Shuffle.
“Players are locked to their character’s teachables.”
David mains: 👁️👄👁️
I just want to play Wesker in 2v8 😫
It still sounds like a good idea but might not vibe with everyone.
Maybe a different way to see it, color coded to mix and match. Don't scare them with numbers. 😂
I don't want any new system or perks to come to the 2v8 game mode. It futher complicates it and isn't needed. The killers with their abilities and innate perks is great and should be the way they continue. Same with the classes.
All I want behavior to do is fix their stupid ass hit validation servers. Times where it's supposed to hit doesn't hit, times where it's not supposed to hit, it hits. Fix map balance. Times where there's way too many dead zones and way too connecting loops. 8 years and most of this hasn't been addressed
Just make your currency cost based on pick rate for perks / addon and on kill rate for the killer (And obviously make it affected by MMR so nurse is not free)
I think the problem with balance at this point is that most everything that feels unfun or oppressive usually comes from a combination of perks, and not an individual one (maybe distortion but ykn)... nobody really complains about slowdowns until you start stacking them, or like weave/franklins and enduring/spirit fury all being perks clearly meant to combo with each other, their parts are a lot less annoying to deal with than the whole. This and the fact that a lot of perks have alternatives with functionally similar effects... stacking healing on survivor or even just trying to account for how many different aura reveal perks and addons you may have to consider has made the ability to predict and play around each other's perks way muddier, which I think was a huge part of the skill and fun of the game.
I miss life before SBMM
I guess it's a hot take to hate the 2v8 mode.
What I enjoy the most is that Billy is now more manageable & fair
also late fish
the spice melange!
Assuming you have done this already, but if you haven’t. Send your currency system to a fog whisperer or a big content creator. I’m a huge fan of it
How did I know he'd bring up his currency system for the 1,434,572,203th time in this video? 😅
Bro the currency system is a bad idea
Nintendo, hire this man... Wait, wrong person 😂
I'm ready for this fresh banger 🎉
I agree with the currency system. But Nurse still needs to be nerfed. Empty build she is still too much. She either needs to get her lunge after blinking shortened, or have to wait a second after blinkg to swing.
let's say if DbD puts the pick 10 system in the 2v8 mode or a separate mode altogether. I'm pretty sure DbD will screw up the 2v8 pick 10 system. I think they should put it as a separate game mode.
I just don't trust behavior anymore. They made 2 of my 5 P100s just weaker because of complaining. They don't care how people feel and I feel they don't care about balancing they care more about how people feel. For example trickster was never strong or the weakest but they reworked him to make him feel more fun to play against and doing so made him weaker. The same thing with knight blight. The only good rework they have done is billy.
Quit the game long time ago. I feel better now. Won't come back to it. I never had anything against players and community of dbd but I hate dbd devs.
Would it be better if there was a pre set perk selection or randomize it? Killer have no add ons and survivor’s can find items on chest and no map offerings
it would be cool next year they start adding these game modes, but at the same time I think dbd cannot manage multiple game modes or even two. It took them so long to put a patch out for the generator bug and the patch was meant to fix stuff instead it caused some more problems.
the playerbase is so small that introducing more than one game mode cannibalizes the gamemodes as you can see with the new queue times on the standard mode now
I like “Lights Out” the best.
Alan Wake located
2v8 is very new. We need to give it time to truly see if it's still got the appeal once the honeymoon period is over.
I understand you're proud of your currency idea, but I stand by my past criticisms that it would only stagnate the game. You've made many videos on this, at this point it just feels like you're clawing for any shred of evidence or confirmation bias that it would work. Let it go brother.
No hate intended, it's an interesting idea none the less and it's good to see people looking at solutions to issues rather than just clowning on the devs.
The currency system should be a ranked mode thing rather than base game so that if people wanna try something they can't on currency system they still can in some way
Mrheadache is this your alt account?
@@Herman_Hedning nope I’m a real person
Agree. I think this worth to try in PTB or live server(As it rank mode) for a month and waiting for feedback.
The idea is for the points is fun but you will punish every swf team just because they are swf??? Not every swf is godlike comp team you know.
2 v 8 no I will not play in till it is gone I not waiting 20-30 min for a 5 min match
Notice me choypie
go back to old graphics, bring back the old atmosphere of maps, revert the matchmaking to the old one and keep all the quality of life changes and keep every game mode, dbd is saved
Bro thinks the black ops load out system could help DBD and as someone with just a small fraction of your play time its kinda scary the dumb ideas I hear you people come up with DBD needs a ranked mode where yes you can limit/block certain perks/ad ons from being on certain killers/survivors or maps w.e the core game doesn't have to change all that much I feel like 1v4 should always be survivors against the odds and a scary experience as in your always in fear of dying thats the DBD I fell in love with that is the fun its ridiculous as the game becomes more and more survivor sided I keep hearing more and more how the game isn't fun smh wake you people are killing the game we all love just relax nothing is perfect....
Choy my man. Stop bringing currency thing in every single video. Thats so horrible. Im sorry to say that. Its just my opinion. Limiting killers and survivors in competetive game destroys the fun for both side. And yes im say competitive and not party game because mmr existing. And this game have not enough players to have multiple game mode such as rank and normal. So... limiting people in the only gamemode its just not gonna work. Despite this, i agree with any other point you made❤️
DBD isn't competitive, its a broken shitshow. It's the community that has tried to make it competitive despite the 2v8 popularity showing no one cares about the competitive scene, to further this the dbd E-sports was also canceled because again, No one cared nor desired it.
In my experience everyone limits themselves to 4 gen regressions/preventions and second chances on survivor, at the very least people might try something different
@HPLovesCraftsCat let me to not agree with that. Apparently, even in this game mode, people sweat because mmr is working in this mode! ( you don't gain or lose mmr, but you match up with similar mmr people). And about community you are 100% percent right... this game has one of the worst communities I have ever seen, but its the nature of humans you know? You can't really expect everyone to chill when they are facing another human in real time. And about E sport I have to say there's many games with ranking system which are not in E sports so being or not being In E sports doesn't mean the game is not competitive. It's a onlind pvp game with a skill base matchmaking after all.( I don't say it's working perfectly I'm just saying it exists)
@LightWavess and who is gonna make the decision that which killer should have more or less limits ? Bhvr ? No thanks man. The recent changes such as hook respawn and 10 second extra gen time and limiting gen kick just prove how clueless they are about the game they made.
@@veladanjbakht140The game went downhill the second they made the big meta shakeup, might as well add more fuel to the fire.