Which Multimatic is best for you? Multimatic 235 vs Multimatic 215 vs Multimatic 220
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2020
- Baker's Gas lines up three of the most popular Miller Electric multiprocess units. Multimatic 235, Multimatic 215 and the Multimatic 220 we review the differences and also talk about the not shown Multimatic 255. The big difference is the size, power requirements, duty cycle, screen size, TIG capability and price point. The 220 is the ONLY true multiprocess with AC TIG. The 235 and 215 have DC TIG capability. All three machines are rated at 3/8 for steel. The biggest difference is the duty cycle.
Multimatic 215
38lbs
20% Duty cycle on 220
Rated for 3/8 MIG steel
110/220 power
Multimatic 220
56lbs
40% duty cycle on 220
Rated for 3/8 MIG steel
110/220 Power
Multimatic 235
84lbs
60% duty cycle
Rated for 3/8 MIG steel
220 power ONLY
*See spec sheets for full information and details on each. Product pages with spec sheets linked below. We do have promotions / Bonus offers on each machine so be sure to check that out in the drop down on the product page.
Multimatic 215 - bakersgas.com/products/miller...
Multimatic 220- bakersgas.com/products/miller...
Multimatic 235 - bakersgas.com/products/miller...
*Not shown in video but mentioned
Multimatic 255 - bakersgas.com/products/miller...
Multimatic 255
84lbs
60% duty cycle
Rated for 1/2 MIG steel
220 power ONLY
Pulse MIG
If you have questions or need more information please leave a comment and we will be sure to get back with you!
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We bought my daughters a 215 from y'all as a first machine to practice with, and we all love it. Great machine.
Awesome! We appreciate the support! If you need anything else let us know.
@@BakersGas which is the miller machine that is considered to be the successor to the 251 mig time for a upgrade for me
@@soloM81 Miller 252 or 255!
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I’m blown away with how much the prices have gone up since this video was made 😢
Yeah Miller went nuts... The 235 is litterally double in 2 years
Thank your POS president for the price hikes!
Great video, a lot of information I like the way everything is explained in detail that helps a lot when deciding the machine that fits my needs thank you
Thanks for watching! Let us know if we can help with anything else.
@BakersGas any discount on the miller 255 multimatic
All these videos are great. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Sure like my 220 I bought from y’all. I’ve been using it for work and also to build stuff for the house. Can’t say enough about the CK Worldwide tig torch with super flex hose. Dang that’s fun to use!
Awesome!!! We are glad to hear that!! Appreciate the support and comment.
Thank you for making this video
Thanks for watching!
I'm considering the 220 for the versatility of the machine. some of the projects id like to build do require a fair amount of welding like tandem trailers. it makes me lean towards the 235 for the duty cycle increase but id hate to lose the ac tig for projects down the road. if im welding around 19.5V - 20V do you think welding larger fab projects would be too much for the 220? I'm not going to be welding long beads but once everything it tacked up there could be hours of weldout time... what are your thoughts?
thanks
Yes want them all they all perfect for me
My preference is a Multimatic 220 because it is the only one that can do AC TIG. My dad is buying me one very soon
great vid
Hola buenas tardes yo compré una de Miller 235 quisiera saber cuál es realmente su función lo estoy ocupando para un taller de hacer puertas y ventanas si es recomendable eso es mi duda trabajarlo todo el día gracias
Great video
Thank you for watching!
Do they have pulse on the 235 now? Shows it on spec sheet
Does the 235 have smaller spool capabilities
Great information, I’m looking at a new welder👍👍👍👍
Let us know if you have any questions! We are happy to help! We can also let you know / honor our upcoming Black Friday deals for you!
@@BakersGas when do you start your Black Friday sales. I would be interested in a mig tig setup. I would like to do steel and aluminum. Thank you
@@jmoshorts2054 They are live now!! Call or message us if you have questions.
When will we see those prices again?
You have to have 4 drive rolls for 15ft cable
Great video. I’ve been considering one of these but I already have a Miller 250 (old machine) and a Diversion 180 with a pulse box by Jattus. Would there be any advantages to go with one of these machines? It is rare for me to weld anything thicker than 3/8” mig. Backup welder is a Hobart 140 because of the Miller 250 age and past industrial use. Thoughts? Great video btw
Thanks for watching! The new machines make a big difference. The obvious things are the size/portability, technology and newer consumables. The key things for us for you to consider is the set up time, versatility and ability to connect spoolguns. Auto-Set would make setting up for a weld quicker and being able to take the welder with you to another area of your shop/or completely different location could open up options for you. If you ever wanted to do aluminum the direct connection for a variety of spoolguns is a nice feature. If you want to call us or email us we can provide more information.
Baker's Gas I appreciate the response and will be calling. Curious about the spool gun setup
@@K_M_M_G Great! Look forward to working with you!
I already have a mig that works well for me. The miller MVP 211. Its around a 2012 model or so. Im wanting to add tig capability. How is my money best spent? A) sell my current mig and buy a multiprocess like the multimatic 220 or B) keep my welder and by a dedicated tig machine like a syncrowave?
Put your welder for sale and we can get you the 220! OR we can help with a dedicated TIG unit for sure.
Hey guys, i know nothing about the machines, but started at a heavy fab shop as a painter about a year ago, and its peaked my interest. Some of the guys let me use their machine to try out, and apparently i did very well, so id like to get one for home. I know id like a multi process, i wanna be able to TIG, and MIG, but idk the difference in ac and dc tig. Also, i can only use 110, and cannot upgrade wiring as i live in a 2 family house and do not have access to the main. So basically what is the difference in AC and DC TIG? And what is the best option for multi process at 110? Money is not a huge factor, but id like to stay under 4k. Thank you!
Hey! So if you want the ability to TIG weld aluminum in your multiprocess unit than you need to go 220! If your not needing/wanting to TIG (AC TIG) than the Multimatic 215 would be a good fit for you. Call us and we can help walk you through the little things and help you determine which is best for you. support@bakersgas.com or 877-930-5690 Thanks for watching!
What’s your thought on the 220 vs a dynasty 210dx. Trying to pick if I want two designated units or an all in one for my mig/tig
Hey, really would not compare the two. The Miller 220 is a great true multiprocess unit that will TIG aluminum but does NOT have the adjustments and arc characteristics as a Dynasty (much more industrial machine)
What is C10, C25, C100 for?
yeah hey fellas thx for all ur videos, just wana know one thing so wiyh the mdx 100 gun is that onlu good for 100 amps? and also can i purchase a mdx gun that can uphold the amps of the 220, if so whats the name of that gun and how much ? thanks guys
You can purchase the MDX-250 if you want. The MDX-100 matches up based on the max duty cycle / amps. As noted in the video the 220 and 215 do come with the 100 and the 235 and 255 come with the 250. I will link the MDX-250 in case you wanted to upgrade.
Comes in a variety of length's but here is a 10 foot one:
bakersgas.com/products/millermdx-250miggun10ft-3m-1770035
Yikes, the price on the 235 has jumped nearly $700 since this video was made. The 215 is $500 more and the 220 is about $1,000 more. Not sure it’s supply chain related or the prices were lower earlier from COVID?
I just need a machine that can run stick and Tig preferably higher amperages. So what machine would be recommended?
If you need AC TIG the 220! If not the 235/255 have a higher duty cycle but DC TIG only.
Looking for a TIG welder for aluminum, stainless, etc. but want to be able to mig/stick(push/pull) be as versatile as possible.
That 220 and 255 can’t have a kid can they?
Thinking I should just get separate dedicated machines, but that 220 might be a good start…?
Hate to buy twice when I could have gotten the exact fit the first time!
Hey! So if you want the AC TIG multiprocess you have to go 220. However if you are willing to go MIG aluminum the 255 is a sweet unit for thicker material and pulse is nice.
If you want to email us we can price both out and help you decide what would be best for your application.
@@BakersGas I've been looking at TIG only machines so I don't have to compromise! What would you recommend?
I'd like to see the 235 with 4 drive rolls 15 foot cable!
Okay! haha you can get another MDX-250 gun that is longer if that helps! bakersgas.com/products/millermdx-250miggun15ft-4-6m-1770043
It comes with 15 ft now.
the 220 price is close to 4,000. Today's price (11/18/21) 20% off is 3,800. MADE IN USA?
Can we get 4 drive rolls please!! On the 235 and 045 wire
Sure call or email us and we can help!
If I want to do exhaust work and occasionally 1/2" metals, what is a good welder?
Multimatic 255
Miller 252. Much cheaper and comes with wheels. Very good welder
what happens when u operate the welder past its usable duty cycle. Explain what happens please.
It overheats, causing undue wear and tear on the components which means paying to fix and replace parts.
Duty cycle can be exceeded but not good for the machine. Plus if you think about it 40% duty cycle would be 4 minutes of continuous welding which is quite a long time of welding.
Great videos. Which would you chose between the Miller 235 and the Esab 235ic?
Mostly for Mig. Thanks
If you have 220 power the Miller 235 is great! Super easy to use, reliable and one of our favorites! If you do not always have 220 power I would look at another option for sure. Let us know if you have any questions.
Is the 220 the only multi machine from Miller that does AC tig?
Yes correct!
what thickness of metal on stick can the 235 do ??
3/8 th
Will the 220 handle dual gas MIG welding. Sorry if that's not the right way to ask.
If your asking if the 220 can use 25/75, it will. I have a 220 with both 100% argon and a bottle of 25/75 argon mix. No issues so far.
@@BigPowerAL Thx, but no. Dual shield is probably the correct way to ask. Basically it is shield gas and flux core at the same time.
Will the 235 hold an arc with 6010? if not, what would you recommend for MIG/DC TIG/Stick multiprocess welder? I don't see myself doing any Aluminum TIG and can get a spool gun if things change.
No, if you want to run 6010 you would have to buy a dedicated stick machine or the Rebel line will do it
These have gone up $1000 in a year?
miller should make a 235 and/or 255 multimatic with ac tig , i want something that weld up to 1/2 in no problem but 1 machine that makes all ...... miller are you listening!
Could not agree more. AC tig is so important.
is there a machine that has all the capabilities of the 220 and has pulse mig?
With AC TIG, no there is currently not a pulse MIG/AC TIG machine. Let us know what you are trying to do and we can help make a recommendation.
@@BakersGasi cant believe i missed this but anyway. i ended picking up a 220. was just wondering if there was a machine that did everything but realistically the pulse mig is not needed. thanks for the reply.
Dude, Im gettin a 235.
Gosh, I am so torn between the 215 and the 220. I should just buy once and cry once!
Buy the 220!! You will not regret it! We do offer 3 month 0% financing if that helps! :)
Did the same debate and just reached deeper into my pocket and bought the 220. You won’t regret it!
Are all the plugs the same?
This machine is the standard 220 plug that comes on Miller machines. NEMA 650P
Can the 220 braze brass??
No, but it can super glue copper
How much does a tig kit run for the 215? Is the tig kit worth using on the 215
TIG kit is about $429 if you add it on after for the 215! Yes if you want to get into TIG welding we would recommend that kit! I will link below for you. bakersgas.com/products/miller-301337
You cannot do alluminum with the 215 tig right?
@@1970chevy07 You can not TIG aluminum but you can MIG weld aluminum with a spoolgun! You can get the spoolmate 100 or 150. I will link our video on the spoomate below for you to check out.
ruclips.net/video/96DuscLVCGs/видео.html
I have had my 215 for over year, I like it a lot, But TIG kit not worth it. Very difficult to do small material. And it doesn't like to do thick material
@@1970chevy07 You can MIG weld aluminum with a Spoolgun but no you can not AC TIG with the 215. ONLY the 220 has that capability.
The 220 has pulse for tig still right?
No, I don't think that you can
@@BakersGas yes it has pulse
Anyone in the world going to run a bead with the 235.
I've not found a single actual review on it yet.
We use it in one of our videos promise it welds good
@@BakersGas
Your correct, ive burned almost 40lb spool through the one I bought from you.
Any trouble with drive motors yet? How many have you sold?
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Are these an older series?
These are the latest from Miller!
How’s the 235 holding up?
Really great feedback and reviews so far!
@@BakersGas Awesome! I can’t wait to get mine.
@bakersgas I’ve settled and deceived the 220AC/DC was right for me but I know there will be some rebates or discounts come cyber Monday/ Christmas time. Just waiting for that to happen so I can pull the trigger!
Yes Kyle!! Contact us and we can get you the details and make sure you are on the list to get the deals early! Thanks for watching!
Baker's Gas can you send me the contact info do you prefer VIA email?
@@kylearaiza8808 support@bakersgas.com
Baker's Gas thank you!
Baker’s Gas I sent an email today!
I guess price went up on the 220 it’s $3699 now
Yes more price increases than normal but we do have some promos that offset that a bit.
Multimatic 220 is almost a perfect welder, wish it could run 6010 💔
@Tom S It’s not recommended on their website.
damn 220 gone up 1k in price in only 2 years wtf
Just above 4 grand now
Esab rebel 💯👍
The 3 year warranty is because they don't last 3 years.
Over priced machines period
Jesus Christ Miller went nuts with the prices a 211 MVP is now $2000, which I have great machine. It’s a shame Bidenonimics is pushing us too look at other machines
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