Beastmen gets my vote. The others you can at least send all of your armies and eventually overwhelm them. But Beastmen just teleport and go invisible. Even a weak Beastmen army drives me nuts.
Trying to find the beastmen to force them into battle to wipe them out is infuriatingly difficult. If you can’t reliably catch them in the beast path you best hope you can field enough armies to pin them down.
Or my favorite you chase them around forever and eventually lose them and have to focus on something else and the second you leave they show up and raze a settlement
Literally had Morghur jumping around and dying in the same provinces for more than twenty turns and his faction just. Did. Not. Fukkin. Die. 😂 just absurd and I couldn’t catch his invisible armies with my main one because auto resolve would’ve let me win instantly
Skaven by far. They used to be mainly lots of crappy, cowardly infantry with good mechanics and good artillery. Now they have done of the best ranged in the game, good monsters, and insane mechanics
Attack from multiple points at once , the guns would be too confuse to fire anything and they will fold in seconds. Also work with any range dominant army.
8am: 'Wood elves mostly keep to them selves' 9am: Orion has invaded Brettonia and is now making Franz cry. 10am: Drycha has killed Azhag and Ungrim, now is molesting Astragoth.
I think chaos dwarves deserve a spot to replace empire tbh, their units are so insanely op in auto resolve that you are forced to manually fight. They are also very strong with insane artillery just like the empire in manual battle too, but with some other units and especially spells that I think make them worse than the empire.
I cannot believe you didn't mention the nuke. I bet every single one of us had this moment: - decide to manually fight a seemingly easy battle for the sake of minimising the losses - completely forget about the nuke - Watch it erase your entire stack of elite chevroned up units - start chewing on your keyboard while yelling "ILL KILL YOU! ILL KILL YOU FOR REAL!" at your monitor
For me, its between tzeentch and vampire counts. Tzeentch because similarly to the wood elves, you can't take their territory as chaos wastes are uninhabitable for majority of factions, and then they always ambush because of the teleport stance, even when your in encampment stance. They also have that stupid change of the ways thing, which the AI will always target you with, as well as their armies just being a pain in the ass to deal with. Vampire counts simply because their legendary lords like Vlad and Manfred are just op, and you have to kill them about 30 times before wiping their faction.
Once had an Aliance with Grimgor as Kugath, each of us were great empires so I joined him into war against Scarsnik. Grimgor somehow lost a battle and was confederated turning my ally’s empire into my ennemy’s. Fun times
Honestly, that's on you, on one of my previous campaings, I was allied with Wulfrik and he declared war on Throgg, the moment I saw that I made peace with Throgg and canceled my outpost. Just as I imagined could happen, Throgg won, but thanks to a bit of foresight, I was on good terms with him and managed to restore the alliance in a few turns. You must never commit to alliances with unstable factions and warring tribal factions are the most unstable ones.
Surprised Tzeentch didn't make the list since you've got the strong Chaos infantry, Tzeentch daemon ranged attackers, pretty strong magic, barrier for added tankiness, changing of the ways causing headaches, stopping you chasing, stealing settlements, etc...and Teleport stance, because the ambush attacks from beastmen and skaven weren't quite obnoxious enough.
I think dwarves are kinda fun to fight against. Since they are so slow they are somewhat easy to run around. Make them attack, destroy their artillery and half is done.
@masaheimoi yeah I mean va.pire counts pretty much counter dwarfs hard, as their units like vargheists and terrorgheists can be super hard to deal with and counter your artillery.
Tomb Kings are extremely annoying. I hate the fact that the AI will just continuously spam out crapstacks of 19 skeleton warriors and just send them all to die. I once fought a battle against tomb kings where I killed NINE-THOUSANDS SKELETON WARRIORS. All of my artillery ran out of ammo, and my entire armor was exhausted, just from the constant waves of undead that kept coming in.
I’ll do you one better I friendly fired 5000 good troops with a bright wizard spell after archaon sent his armies in a big clump so I defended in a big clump with cavalry flanking
@@Barrystue reminds me of the time I misclicked and cast winds of death on my own army while I was corner camping. Meant to cast it on the enemy units but clicked and dragged too fast and ended up casting it back towards me.
@@redtsun67 even worse for me it was during the end times and Karl Franz was also wounded in battle Thankfully I was reinforced by Balthasar gelt and Boris todbringer and they cleaned up the rest of chaos army. The battle nearly costed me a bunch but I was able to recover. I had 7 stacks, only 4 of which were quality meanwhile chaos had 14. It was absolutely crazy, but taking our archaon and sigvald at the start really helped
If you are anywhere near the bottom of the map tzeentch will be creeping towards you within like 15 turns, especially Karios, dude builds insane armies and is able to ambush you out of nowhere, even if your playing the lizardmen ie itza Karios will be an absolute menace, atleast the chameleon lizardmen will hold him off for awhile.
Kairos AI do not encounter with teclis and northern lizard factions due to sea. So he can deal with southern chaos wastes easily. But when you play as him your vision range cause to meet with teclis, kroqgar and tiqtakto at beginning so game becomes unfairly harder for player.
Wood Elves. THIS IS SO TRUE OMG. I remember the 1st time going up against Wood Elves on my Ikit run. I swear to God the moment you touch Brettonia, Wood Elves declared war with me like a maniac. Durthu, wait till he fus-roh-dah into your territory. Orion? Hah! Listen to the sound of the horn, the moment the Wild Hunt began, if you don't have a gunline army ready, you're f*ked. When I played Wood Elves, "please declare war with Brettonia for me to join your faction". WTF
I couldnt beat Wood Elves as Dwarfs in WH2.. im scared to try to invade them again in WH3 lol. Auto resolving isnt fun at all, but I guess that will be the only option
depending on your difficulty, the wood elves are a fart in the wind when you play as ikit. imagine your whole faction lore is dedicated to bring destruction to human things and elfy things. the whole rat strategy on fighting wood elves is walking in, razing a settlement, walking out, repeat. as long as you don't let your army get more than 2-3 turns of attrition, you should be able to wipe any wood elf army off the map with auto resolve even. they are just a pathetic race compared to rats. (granted you dont walk around with skavenslave stacks, as ikit you should only be recruiting high quality units)
Gotta love the wood elves just being able to go through mountains and walls. Then when you finally catch the bastards it’s raining arrows from all sides while they run away.
Unpopular opinion but I hate fighting againts Kilsev. Not only becouse their ability to shoot and fight mele, but also the ,,By Our Blood'' makes me wanna throw my computer up againt a wall everytime I have to fight them.
Dont forget Ikit and his doomrockets that can wipe out multiple units if you forget it might be coming for 1 second, and skaven plagues being just the worst since they not only last for a long time but also add huge attrition that cant be stopped. Nurgle plagues have so much variety they are often not devastating, but get skaven plague after a hard battle and your army gets wiped out.
I would remove Empire and possibly put High Elves in there. Crazy powerful dragons, Lords, magic, and armored archers & infantry. They're also rich & can recruit very quickly.
Fighting against Skaven is pain in ass. In the early game they run away and come back and run away and come back like if I don't have enough cavalry idk what to do with them not to mention stupid slingers cheaper than my handgunner's bullet but can cause decent amount of damage to my units. In the later game, damn, one word, nuke. While I'm proud with my medieval zweihander and shining fire knights those filthy rats just nuke me like Im in hiroshima.
Stop me if you saw this before: > You're fighting the Vampire Counts. After a big and bloody long battle, you take their last settlement > They have one random Lord remaining, he doesn't even have an army. Next turn, he suicide charges against the settlement you just took. > Despite being killed, he revives because Undead. Then uses raise dead to get a full stack of high tier units, courtesy of that big battle earlier, attacks your weakened army. Have fun!
me learning the ropes with cathay: "oh nice, the ai managed to kill of the greenskins back there, so now it's just the two hidden skaven settlements there" 1 turn later "wait where did the beastmen come from? this is the edge of the map! oh well it's just one settlement and they already started war with basically everyone around them, I'm sure this will sort itself out" another turn later "what do you mean they beaten my brother back by 3 settlements, eradicated the skaven and razed two of my settlements?! where the faq did they even come from!?" apart from that, as a beginner I find it kinda hard to fight against the chicken overlord and his halo-shielded sniper armies
I feel like chaos dwarves are very tough because they're super hardy like the dwarfs, but their artillery and war machines are very strong and they get insane army ability nukes when they're defending 😊
i am really shocked that there is no Kislev on this list - basically every unit in their roster is ranged and this is a real hell for melee factions (but not exceptionally), their hard and strong leadership PLUS this FREAKING ABILITY for staying 30 seconds after breaking - this is my top most hated ability in this game - I HATE IT - it makes them fight with you to the literal last man additionally, this Old Witch with her freaking spells which can be thrown at your WHOLE ARMY is annoying as hell too…
I was gonna give the worst of the worst award to Helman Ghorst with his particularly high zombie spam plus poison attacks. But Grimgor is also iiln the neighborhood and can get Black Orks stupidly early while also being unkillable without 2 armies.
I HATE beastmen horde factions. They just go ambush, destroy a settlement and disappear again. It takes like 20 turns to deal with a single idiotic army just wiping out your settlements
Kislev.... Especially when you play Kislev yourself at the start. You think you crushed a unit down? They just recover due to their passive. Fighting longer, you take more dmg and take uneccesary dmg.... its annoying as hell and why I avoid mostly Kislev Campaigns. But for the Motherland!
It seems like the AI doesn't attack Skaven settlements, views them as ruins but never checks. So the Skaven have no threat and constantly have the surprise factor combined 1 fielding 4 crapstacks from 1 settlement
Actually I find Nurgle and Empire easy preys to be honest. But yes Dwarfs (plus late game Chaos Dwarfs) and Skavens are really annoying to play against. I would add Hight Elves to 2nd place on your list to be honest though - mass of archers, a lot of good units too hard to beat/to kill and versality makes them dangerous opponents - their lords are also one of the best in the game (not only Legendary ones but generic ones - if you spend influence, of course).
Louen Leoncoeur. Not the Bretonnians. Louen Leoncoeur. High health, Regeneration, and healing spells make him nigh invulnerable in combat. I have to bring in two full stacks and auto-resolve just to take him down. He’s like Napoleon in that regard. The Coalition didn’t declare war on France; they declared war on him specifically.
Warp Lightning. The sound alone of that spell charging up is enough to make my hairs stand on end. And the other thing is Tomb Kings. Oh, you killed my best armies? Would be a shame if I could just recreate them instantly in the next province over. *PopPopPop*
Skaven are bad for the plagues as well. I can kill off Eshin, and Mors relatively quickly, but it's almost always Pestilens that causes the most trouble. Even if by turn 100 they haven't really won lustria bc lustria is a battle Royale of everyone except lizardmen, they're still super hard to dig out and will often take down one of your armies for every two of theirs, which against skaven is a problem
I was playing as the dwarfs and I had a small garrison and a lord fighting 2 whole army's of undead, but they were almost entirely low tear cannon fodder, idk how, but using only 9 dwarfs I won with no losses, love the dwarfs, that was the day I learned auto resolve ain't always right lol
You forgot abot the fact that if you manually fight Skaven there is like 90% chance that the whole army will just route and come back to bite your ass later when you least expect it.
The "Menace Below" in my opinion need some sort of nerf. As it is, while in the Skaven's style of being a sneaky mothertrucker, it's WAY too OP. Sure, the rats that it spawns get dispatched easily, but they are enough to momentarily stop artillery and ranged units from firing rendering them useless. A good way to nerf it, would be to limit the range of it and maybe add a campaign ability to anti-skaven buildings that reduces the uses of the skill
One time I was fighting Thorgrim, and I sent my spellcasters ahead to do some damage in advance. While I was distracted, the gyrocopters that he had vanguard deployed behind my army got 500 kills.
I love fighting empire. Almost ever campiagn is basically just me steamrolling towards the empire and hoping there's something left for me by the time I get there.
pff. Skaven got nothing on tzeentch. there's just nothing as infuriating as having your settlement swapped, your faction halted, and then your fortified army gets skaven-ambushed by some fucking lord of change.
Skaven with Clan Skyre is one of the most annoying factions for manual battle, dealing with Doomrocket each battle can delete or heavily weaken infantry units. Single or few entities units is literal counter this though getting beaten by tons of heavy and light firearms units instead. PS : Warp Lightning spell can delete even the sturdiest dwarf infantry units as well.
Kairos is by far the most annoying faction to face with. He is not the strongest, but taking him out is insanly hard due to the climate favoring him and hurting you. And his campaign map mechanics are absurdly annoying. Even Skaven are tame to me compared to him. How did you miss this guy in your list?
vampire counts on legendary difficulty have a near 100% chance to raise dead their ENTIRE army if you beat them in battle the counter play to this is fighting them when theyre in march stance which is stupid af i think they deserve top 3 spot rather than a measly 6th place and no tzeentch? tf?
I feel like a lot of factions in Warhammer have difficulties when facing them and I think that shows an overall great design, though some do depend at what stage you meet them at in the game. - Skaven usually take a top priority to me, I see them, I Total War. "Non aggression treaty"? Counter Offer: *slaps desk* I Declare War, you bubonic bitch. They're a really subversive faction though, they really can snowball with the AI even if you're not close to them, and the Army can unexpectedly strong. - Lizardmen in the mid and late game are a faction I hate not auto-resolving. Spam of Horned ones, I usually turtle so they counter me very strong and the units that counter me are strong - Nurgle just for his campaign mechanics, I don't think as a faction he's anything too special but he's one of those you see and go, I've got to deal with you and I would rather not. Other factions have irritations like Wood elves and skirmish, if the campaign didn't feel such a chore, they're one of my favourite to play because the units are fun on the battlefield. I can't say I struggle too much against the Vampire factions, Greenskins or Beastmen. Though it can depend who I'm playing as. Beastmen are very strong though, just a not fun to play as.
How is Tzeench not #1? They are the only faction that I have consistently hated dealing with since release. They can teleport on top of you to ambush. They can give your settlements to other factions or just steal them. They can make your armies suffer unavoidable attrition. Even without mentioning their solid roster, just their campaign mechanics make them an absolute nightmare.
I think only the chaos faction are annoying. There are just too many of them. I absolutely hate that they not occupy settlements but rather destroy them. I played a campaign with Nagarythe and 9 of 10 factions i was in war with where chaos faction. So i occupied some settlements in the north and kinda struggle with my economy and then out of thin air he comes: Be'lakor. Thit Idiot is in war with the entire Empire and Bretonnia and choses to sail for 5 days to end my career. Will bringing all my forces down he managed to destroy 4 settlements and ruin my economy. Meanwhile Valkia and Prinz Sigvald got revenge and took all my freshly conquered settlements and 3 Norscan Tribes started to attack. So i killed Be'lakor and got all settlements back with my horrible economy and then dejavu: after 10 rounds Belakor is back with yet another 20 men army to ruin my career even more. Well i did all the same things but destroyed the faction. While that Naggarond with whopping 18 settlements and 4 armys from the west and 7 chaos armys from the north destroying everything. So i made the most outstanding move in history of warhammer: I closed WH3 and started a new campaign in WH2.
It is amazing how strong festus is, plagues and chaos warrior recruit system. Every campaign the empire gets halved by Festus alone. I want to fight humis and the all ded
It’s Hellman ghorst for me, man can pull entire dolmstacks out of his ass. I ever killing 4 of his stacks in 1 turn, ending the turn and he pulled 3 more armies out of nowhere
Nah nah nah the wood elves are nummber one "We don't care about the outside world, we just want to perserve our homeland, now excuse me while i burn down nuln for the 50th time"
Yeah I wouldn't have even considered putting Dwarfs or Empire on this list. Empire is slightly annoying, but not enough to get top 10. Lizardmen are absolutely hellish to fight against and I'd put them in the top 3. Haven't really fought against Tzeentch enough to form much of an opinion on them, though
4:25 *Their roster is truly massive* ...Now add to that more Regiments of Renown mod for all factions....And since Warriors of Chaos are technically 5 factions with Undivided, Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeetch, Slaanesh, you can guess that their ROWs are bloated to stupid proportions. Not to mention some of the broken units that's in there.
Dwarves are hard to beat even in normal. With the right tactics you can make someone rout when they're above half their health. Dwarves need to be reduced to like 8 units, out of a 90 unit regiment, to make them rout. But hey, at least they're great to beat the wood elves, since flame cannons out range their archers.
I would put Beastmen at number 1 honestly. Just due to the fact, that them not having settlements, makes them really hard to wipe out, once they just run away and hide.
honestly i want a toggle that lets me just turn off skaven they're a fun faction to play but the second i run into them in game im just not having fun anymore. life is too short to play games that arent fun
Dark elves are the worst with their armor-piercing crossbows and I don't know about the rest of you but I'll run up against an army with 12 of them and five heros
Skaven being number is no surprise. They have super OP units and just. Never. DIE! So, yeah, Skaven are super annoying to fight, but super fun to play when the super OP stuff is in your hands and not the AI.
get a empire faction down to one settlement? well that sounds like a great time to confederate, one game i swear i was at war with the empire untill ALL empire factions where dead as they just kept getting confederated before i could klil them
How tzeentch hasnt made the list baffles me, there is no counterplay to tzeentch army teleport stancing you and ambushing your troops with all their fiery bullshit. With the other factions on this list is there is counterplay. Tzeentch was busted even before the shadows of change, and now with the changeling theyre gonna be the most busted unbeatable faction in the game
beastmen might be annoying in battle but theyre a bit of a joke on the campaign map. theyre always begging me for a military alliance while at the bottom of the power rankings
I've found the No. 1 rule with Beastmen is to always attack when as soon as they're discovered The first few turns of them turning up are easy to deal with, but leave them a moment longer and they quickly snowball into a major threat; rampaging through your backlines while being impossible to track down.
Skaven have a huge negative their auto resolve power is completely useless no matter what army I always get wins in auto resolve. (Mostly playing hard or very hard)
I swear it’s the Beastmen the fact they can just jump through quantum space and vanish makes me want to send the PC through the wall
Beastmen gets my vote. The others you can at least send all of your armies and eventually overwhelm them. But Beastmen just teleport and go invisible. Even a weak Beastmen army drives me nuts.
Trying to find the beastmen to force them into battle to wipe them out is infuriatingly difficult. If you can’t reliably catch them in the beast path you best hope you can field enough armies to pin them down.
Beastmen Ai is trash though if near them just go and Zerg them easy Ws.
Or my favorite you chase them around forever and eventually lose them and have to focus on something else and the second you leave they show up and raze a settlement
Literally had Morghur jumping around and dying in the same provinces for more than twenty turns and his faction just. Did. Not. Fukkin. Die. 😂 just absurd and I couldn’t catch his invisible armies with my main one because auto resolve would’ve let me win instantly
Skaven by far. They used to be mainly lots of crappy, cowardly infantry with good mechanics and good artillery. Now they have done of the best ranged in the game, good monsters, and insane mechanics
Attack from multiple points at once , the guns would be too confuse to fire anything and they will fold in seconds. Also work with any range dominant army.
it's usually players who throw their units out into battle with little effort who say things like this
sweet horned rat, i just love them so much
Chorfs have the best ranged
Great video
8am: 'Wood elves mostly keep to them selves'
9am: Orion has invaded Brettonia and is now making Franz cry.
10am: Drycha has killed Azhag and Ungrim, now is molesting Astragoth.
11am: Durthu is the Supreme Patriarch now.
12: sisters of twilight rule Nagarrond with an iron fist
1-8pm: ‘wood elves mostly keep to themselves’
I think chaos dwarves deserve a spot to replace empire tbh, their units are so insanely op in auto resolve that you are forced to manually fight. They are also very strong with insane artillery just like the empire in manual battle too, but with some other units and especially spells that I think make them worse than the empire.
I cannot believe you didn't mention the nuke. I bet every single one of us had this moment:
- decide to manually fight a seemingly easy battle for the sake of minimising the losses
- completely forget about the nuke
- Watch it erase your entire stack of elite chevroned up units
- start chewing on your keyboard while yelling "ILL KILL YOU! ILL KILL YOU FOR REAL!" at your monitor
For me, its between tzeentch and vampire counts. Tzeentch because similarly to the wood elves, you can't take their territory as chaos wastes are uninhabitable for majority of factions, and then they always ambush because of the teleport stance, even when your in encampment stance. They also have that stupid change of the ways thing, which the AI will always target you with, as well as their armies just being a pain in the ass to deal with. Vampire counts simply because their legendary lords like Vlad and Manfred are just op, and you have to kill them about 30 times before wiping their faction.
On Warhammer 3 release day. Tzeentch would have easily taken all 10 spots
@@p1553d0f totally. They've received their fair share of nerfs, but imo they still such a pain to play against. Pretty canon too if you ask me.
that's what razing is for
@@Birbucifer casualty replenishment
Once had an Aliance with Grimgor as Kugath, each of us were great empires so I joined him into war against Scarsnik. Grimgor somehow lost a battle and was confederated turning my ally’s empire into my ennemy’s. Fun times
Lol that's hilarious
Honestly, that's on you, on one of my previous campaings, I was allied with Wulfrik and he declared war on Throgg, the moment I saw that I made peace with Throgg and canceled my outpost.
Just as I imagined could happen, Throgg won, but thanks to a bit of foresight, I was on good terms with him and managed to restore the alliance in a few turns.
You must never commit to alliances with unstable factions and warring tribal factions are the most unstable ones.
Surprised Tzeentch didn't make the list since you've got the strong Chaos infantry, Tzeentch daemon ranged attackers, pretty strong magic, barrier for added tankiness, changing of the ways causing headaches, stopping you chasing, stealing settlements, etc...and Teleport stance, because the ambush attacks from beastmen and skaven weren't quite obnoxious enough.
I think dwarves are kinda fun to fight against. Since they are so slow they are somewhat easy to run around. Make them attack, destroy their artillery and half is done.
Same with nurgle, you can literally kite them and not take 1 dmg, vampires are more annoying to fight than dwarves and nurgle combined
@@Kaptiv239 Yeah they are the easiest opponents in the game.
@@Kaptiv239 vampire counts need an insane nerf, as their "the dead will rise again buff" is ridiculously overpowered. Other than that, they are fine.
@@Frederatorr Vampires can be faster, and they can have strong magic, but without artillery they can wreck your infantry in the same way as others.
@masaheimoi yeah I mean va.pire counts pretty much counter dwarfs hard, as their units like vargheists and terrorgheists can be super hard to deal with and counter your artillery.
Tomb Kings are extremely annoying. I hate the fact that the AI will just continuously spam out crapstacks of 19 skeleton warriors and just send them all to die. I once fought a battle against tomb kings where I killed NINE-THOUSANDS SKELETON WARRIORS. All of my artillery ran out of ammo, and my entire armor was exhausted, just from the constant waves of undead that kept coming in.
must have been an awesome battle though!
Lore accurate tho.
I’ll do you one better
I friendly fired 5000 good troops with a bright wizard spell after archaon sent his armies in a big clump so I defended in a big clump with cavalry flanking
@@Barrystue reminds me of the time I misclicked and cast winds of death on my own army while I was corner camping. Meant to cast it on the enemy units but clicked and dragged too fast and ended up casting it back towards me.
@@redtsun67 even worse for me it was during the end times and Karl Franz was also wounded in battle
Thankfully I was reinforced by Balthasar gelt and Boris todbringer and they cleaned up the rest of chaos army.
The battle nearly costed me a bunch but I was able to recover.
I had 7 stacks, only 4 of which were quality meanwhile chaos had 14.
It was absolutely crazy, but taking our archaon and sigvald at the start really helped
If you are anywhere near the bottom of the map tzeentch will be creeping towards you within like 15 turns, especially Karios, dude builds insane armies and is able to ambush you out of nowhere, even if your playing the lizardmen ie itza Karios will be an absolute menace, atleast the chameleon lizardmen will hold him off for awhile.
Kairos AI do not encounter with teclis and northern lizard factions due to sea. So he can deal with southern chaos wastes easily. But when you play as him your vision range cause to meet with teclis, kroqgar and tiqtakto at beginning so game becomes unfairly harder for player.
Wood Elves. THIS IS SO TRUE OMG. I remember the 1st time going up against Wood Elves on my Ikit run. I swear to God the moment you touch Brettonia, Wood Elves declared war with me like a maniac. Durthu, wait till he fus-roh-dah into your territory. Orion? Hah! Listen to the sound of the horn, the moment the Wild Hunt began, if you don't have a gunline army ready, you're f*ked. When I played Wood Elves, "please declare war with Brettonia for me to join your faction". WTF
I couldnt beat Wood Elves as Dwarfs in WH2.. im scared to try to invade them again in WH3 lol. Auto resolving isnt fun at all, but I guess that will be the only option
depending on your difficulty, the wood elves are a fart in the wind when you play as ikit. imagine your whole faction lore is dedicated to bring destruction to human things and elfy things. the whole rat strategy on fighting wood elves is walking in, razing a settlement, walking out, repeat. as long as you don't let your army get more than 2-3 turns of attrition, you should be able to wipe any wood elf army off the map with auto resolve even. they are just a pathetic race compared to rats. (granted you dont walk around with skavenslave stacks, as ikit you should only be recruiting high quality units)
Gotta love the wood elves just being able to go through mountains and walls. Then when you finally catch the bastards it’s raining arrows from all sides while they run away.
Unpopular opinion but I hate fighting againts Kilsev. Not only becouse their ability to shoot and fight mele, but also the ,,By Our Blood'' makes me wanna throw my computer up againt a wall everytime I have to fight them.
Same! Especially when playing as Norsca. It's no fun when half you're army's down before even reaching combat..
I thought I was the only one. They are why I don't play Throt as much as I want too.
Dont forget Ikit and his doomrockets that can wipe out multiple units if you forget it might be coming for 1 second, and skaven plagues being just the worst since they not only last for a long time but also add huge attrition that cant be stopped. Nurgle plagues have so much variety they are often not devastating, but get skaven plague after a hard battle and your army gets wiped out.
I would remove Empire and possibly put High Elves in there. Crazy powerful dragons, Lords, magic, and armored archers & infantry. They're also rich & can recruit very quickly.
And they can pull the SoK. An unbreakable Tyrion with 20-40% bonus ward save is a *PROBLEM*
edit: in manual fights ofc
Yeah I was super surprised to not see high elves in here
Fighting against Skaven is pain in ass. In the early game they run away and come back and run away and come back like if I don't have enough cavalry idk what to do with them not to mention stupid slingers cheaper than my handgunner's bullet but can cause decent amount of damage to my units. In the later game, damn, one word, nuke. While I'm proud with my medieval zweihander and shining fire knights those filthy rats just nuke me like Im in hiroshima.
I agree that's so annoying. But part of me appreciates it because they are great at being rats
@@kman12275 exactly my friend, exactly.
The Isabella's chest comment alone was such comedy gold I subbed
Stop me if you saw this before:
> You're fighting the Vampire Counts. After a big and bloody long battle, you take their last settlement
> They have one random Lord remaining, he doesn't even have an army. Next turn, he suicide charges against the settlement you just took.
> Despite being killed, he revives because Undead. Then uses raise dead to get a full stack of high tier units, courtesy of that big battle earlier, attacks your weakened army. Have fun!
LMFAO that's great 👍
Re: fighting nurgle. As Ghorst, 45 minute melee battle between zombies and nurglings kinda soured me on fighting them altogether
me learning the ropes with cathay: "oh nice, the ai managed to kill of the greenskins back there, so now it's just the two hidden skaven settlements there"
1 turn later
"wait where did the beastmen come from? this is the edge of the map! oh well it's just one settlement and they already started war with basically everyone around them, I'm sure this will sort itself out"
another turn later
"what do you mean they beaten my brother back by 3 settlements, eradicated the skaven and razed two of my settlements?! where the faq did they even come from!?"
apart from that, as a beginner I find it kinda hard to fight against the chicken overlord and his halo-shielded sniper armies
I feel like chaos dwarves are very tough because they're super hardy like the dwarfs, but their artillery and war machines are very strong and they get insane army ability nukes when they're defending 😊
I'd rather fight skaven than chaos dwarves. Zhatan f'd up my level 20 Zhao Ming
i am really shocked that there is no Kislev on this list - basically every unit in their roster is ranged and this is a real hell for melee factions (but not exceptionally), their hard and strong leadership PLUS this FREAKING ABILITY for staying 30 seconds after breaking - this is my top most hated ability in this game - I HATE IT - it makes them fight with you to the literal last man
additionally, this Old Witch with her freaking spells which can be thrown at your WHOLE ARMY is annoying as hell too…
I was gonna give the worst of the worst award to Helman Ghorst with his particularly high zombie spam plus poison attacks. But Grimgor is also iiln the neighborhood and can get Black Orks stupidly early while also being unkillable without 2 armies.
Most/ least beginner friendly factions next?
I HATE beastmen horde factions. They just go ambush, destroy a settlement and disappear again. It takes like 20 turns to deal with a single idiotic army just wiping out your settlements
Kislev....
Especially when you play Kislev yourself at the start.
You think you crushed a unit down? They just recover due to their passive. Fighting longer, you take more dmg and take uneccesary dmg.... its annoying as hell and why I avoid mostly Kislev Campaigns.
But for the Motherland!
what motherland? the one that the rats just occupied?
WE: Non-aggression pact with the Dwarves? This means WAR!!!
KF: Bloody hell, not another one.
Every time i play it seems like the Dwarfs take over the world and all i ever fight are dwarfs, dwarfs and more dwarfs.
Right now I’ve been having a tough time against chaos dwarfs just because they get the dread quake motar ability whenever I’m trying to invade them
Tzeentch atleast top 2 for me alongside skaven... to them i completely agree :'D
Definitely. Teleport stance is basically the Skaven/Beastmen ambush attack, but *actually* uncounterable.
Surprised there’s no Tzeentch here
It seems like the AI doesn't attack Skaven settlements, views them as ruins but never checks. So the Skaven have no threat and constantly have the surprise factor combined 1 fielding 4 crapstacks from 1 settlement
Actually I find Nurgle and Empire easy preys to be honest. But yes Dwarfs (plus late game Chaos Dwarfs) and Skavens are really annoying to play against. I would add Hight Elves to 2nd place on your list to be honest though - mass of archers, a lot of good units too hard to beat/to kill and versality makes them dangerous opponents - their lords are also one of the best in the game (not only Legendary ones but generic ones - if you spend influence, of course).
Louen Leoncoeur. Not the Bretonnians. Louen Leoncoeur. High health, Regeneration, and healing spells make him nigh invulnerable in combat. I have to bring in two full stacks and auto-resolve just to take him down.
He’s like Napoleon in that regard. The Coalition didn’t declare war on France; they declared war on him specifically.
Warp Lightning. The sound alone of that spell charging up is enough to make my hairs stand on end. And the other thing is Tomb Kings. Oh, you killed my best armies? Would be a shame if I could just recreate them instantly in the next province over. *PopPopPop*
Skaven are bad for the plagues as well. I can kill off Eshin, and Mors relatively quickly, but it's almost always Pestilens that causes the most trouble. Even if by turn 100 they haven't really won lustria bc lustria is a battle Royale of everyone except lizardmen, they're still super hard to dig out and will often take down one of your armies for every two of theirs, which against skaven is a problem
I was playing as the dwarfs and I had a small garrison and a lord fighting 2 whole army's of undead, but they were almost entirely low tear cannon fodder, idk how, but using only 9 dwarfs I won with no losses, love the dwarfs, that was the day I learned auto resolve ain't always right lol
Chaos dwarves are stupidly op with their Siege engines
You forgot abot the fact that if you manually fight Skaven there is like 90% chance that the whole army will just route and come back to bite your ass later when you least expect it.
'Unlike isabella's chest...' 😂
The "Menace Below" in my opinion need some sort of nerf.
As it is, while in the Skaven's style of being a sneaky mothertrucker, it's WAY too OP.
Sure, the rats that it spawns get dispatched easily, but they are enough to momentarily stop artillery and ranged units from firing rendering them useless.
A good way to nerf it, would be to limit the range of it and maybe add a campaign ability to anti-skaven buildings that reduces the uses of the skill
i love the smell of gunpowder , steel clashing and sigma scream in the morning
One time I was fighting Thorgrim, and I sent my spellcasters ahead to do some damage in advance. While I was distracted, the gyrocopters that he had vanguard deployed behind my army got 500 kills.
Tzeentch with the teleport and magic
Tzeench and chwarfs for me. You either specilaise an army or double up as one army is gonna get fucked
I love fighting empire. Almost ever campiagn is basically just me steamrolling towards the empire and hoping there's something left for me by the time I get there.
It’s always a nice relaxing Nurgle campaign until Helman Ghorst declares war on me and wipes me out without breaking a sweat.
pff. Skaven got nothing on tzeentch. there's just nothing as infuriating as having your settlement swapped, your faction halted, and then your fortified army gets skaven-ambushed by some fucking lord of change.
Skaven with Clan Skyre is one of the most annoying factions for manual battle, dealing with Doomrocket each battle can delete or heavily weaken infantry units. Single or few entities units is literal counter this though getting beaten by tons of heavy and light firearms units instead.
PS : Warp Lightning spell can delete even the sturdiest dwarf infantry units as well.
Kairos is by far the most annoying faction to face with. He is not the strongest, but taking him out is insanly hard due to the climate favoring him and hurting you. And his campaign map mechanics are absurdly annoying. Even Skaven are tame to me compared to him.
How did you miss this guy in your list?
vampire counts on legendary difficulty have a near 100% chance to raise dead their ENTIRE army if you beat them in battle
the counter play to this is fighting them when theyre in march stance which is stupid af
i think they deserve top 3 spot rather than a measly 6th place
and no tzeentch? tf?
I feel like a lot of factions in Warhammer have difficulties when facing them and I think that shows an overall great design, though some do depend at what stage you meet them at in the game.
- Skaven usually take a top priority to me, I see them, I Total War. "Non aggression treaty"? Counter Offer: *slaps desk* I Declare War, you bubonic bitch.
They're a really subversive faction though, they really can snowball with the AI even if you're not close to them, and the Army can unexpectedly strong.
- Lizardmen in the mid and late game are a faction I hate not auto-resolving. Spam of Horned ones, I usually turtle so they counter me very strong and the units that counter me are strong
- Nurgle just for his campaign mechanics, I don't think as a faction he's anything too special but he's one of those you see and go, I've got to deal with you and I would rather not.
Other factions have irritations like Wood elves and skirmish, if the campaign didn't feel such a chore, they're one of my favourite to play because the units are fun on the battlefield.
I can't say I struggle too much against the Vampire factions, Greenskins or Beastmen. Though it can depend who I'm playing as. Beastmen are very strong though, just a not fun to play as.
My worst enemy is Bretonia. They have so much Cavalry. Everytime I protect a flank, they find a new one, they can thrust their big bad cav into
How is Tzeench not #1? They are the only faction that I have consistently hated dealing with since release. They can teleport on top of you to ambush. They can give your settlements to other factions or just steal them. They can make your armies suffer unavoidable attrition. Even without mentioning their solid roster, just their campaign mechanics make them an absolute nightmare.
I think only the chaos faction are annoying. There are just too many of them. I absolutely hate that they not occupy settlements but rather destroy them. I played a campaign with Nagarythe and 9 of 10 factions i was in war with where chaos faction. So i occupied some settlements in the north and kinda struggle with my economy and then out of thin air he comes: Be'lakor. Thit Idiot is in war with the entire Empire and Bretonnia and choses to sail for 5 days to end my career. Will bringing all my forces down he managed to destroy 4 settlements and ruin my economy. Meanwhile Valkia and Prinz Sigvald got revenge and took all my freshly conquered settlements and 3 Norscan Tribes started to attack. So i killed Be'lakor and got all settlements back with my horrible economy and then dejavu: after 10 rounds Belakor is back with yet another 20 men army to ruin my career even more. Well i did all the same things but destroyed the faction. While that Naggarond with whopping 18 settlements and 4 armys from the west and 7 chaos armys from the north destroying everything. So i made the most outstanding move in history of warhammer: I closed WH3 and started a new campaign in WH2.
It is amazing how strong festus is, plagues and chaos warrior recruit system. Every campaign the empire gets halved by Festus alone. I want to fight humis and the all ded
It’s Hellman ghorst for me, man can pull entire dolmstacks out of his ass. I ever killing 4 of his stacks in 1 turn, ending the turn and he pulled 3 more armies out of nowhere
Nah nah nah the wood elves are nummber one
"We don't care about the outside world, we just want to perserve our homeland, now excuse me while i burn down nuln for the 50th time"
Tzeench deserves first place simply by having the ability to ambush you every single time.
Queek is usually bulldozing the Badlands by like turn 25 lol
Lightning strike hard counters wagghs for the greenskins. If you wipe out the host army the waggh army disappears without ever needing to fight it.
Yeah empire and dwarves on this list but not lizardmen and tzeentch is criminal
Yeah I wouldn't have even considered putting Dwarfs or Empire on this list. Empire is slightly annoying, but not enough to get top 10. Lizardmen are absolutely hellish to fight against and I'd put them in the top 3. Haven't really fought against Tzeentch enough to form much of an opinion on them, though
4:25 *Their roster is truly massive* ...Now add to that more Regiments of Renown mod for all factions....And since Warriors of Chaos are technically 5 factions with Undivided, Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeetch, Slaanesh, you can guess that their ROWs are bloated to stupid proportions. Not to mention some of the broken units that's in there.
I auto resolve all Wood Elf battles.
Don't forget that the wood elves can also instantly recruit units
Idk if Thoreks on here but its definitely Thorek. Who tf needs so much armor AND resistance. He’s not even strong he’s just a legitimate wall.
I either ally with skaven super early or I go for the throat and end them immediately. 😂😂😂
Dwarves are hard to beat even in normal.
With the right tactics you can make someone rout when they're above half their health.
Dwarves need to be reduced to like 8 units, out of a 90 unit regiment, to make them rout.
But hey, at least they're great to beat the wood elves, since flame cannons out range their archers.
Skaven, skaven, skaven, skaven!! Its the only end crisis I turn off. Once was enough for me
I would put Beastmen at number 1 honestly. Just due to the fact, that them not having settlements, makes them really hard to wipe out, once they just run away and hide.
Viking: Battle for Asgard stream when?
honestly i want a toggle that lets me just turn off skaven
they're a fun faction to play but the second i run into them in game im just not having fun anymore. life is too short to play games that arent fun
Dark elves are the worst with their armor-piercing crossbows and I don't know about the rest of you but I'll run up against an army with 12 of them and five heros
Tzeentch and Skaven.
I hate fighting against the Skaven so much..
Thats why i only play skaven
Skaven being number is no surprise. They have super OP units and just. Never. DIE! So, yeah, Skaven are super annoying to fight, but super fun to play when the super OP stuff is in your hands and not the AI.
I only autoresolve Skaven, especially if Skryer because of the fucking NUKE
If Bretonnia Ai is better a could a menace to the players.
get a empire faction down to one settlement? well that sounds like a great time to confederate, one game i swear i was at war with the empire untill ALL empire factions where dead as they just kept getting confederated before i could klil them
How tzeentch hasnt made the list baffles me, there is no counterplay to tzeentch army teleport stancing you and ambushing your troops with all their fiery bullshit. With the other factions on this list is there is counterplay. Tzeentch was busted even before the shadows of change, and now with the changeling theyre gonna be the most busted unbeatable faction in the game
Chaos dwarfs.
Skaven main❤🐀
I still remember dwarfs during tww2 basically being unkillable and snowballing every game the orcs legit never won during that time
Hold on, you can attack an army besieging a settlement using the garrison itself?? 11:10
If I was making this list it would just be the greenskins 10 times
Vampires aren’t too bad to fight if you play a faction that can quickly kill lords. Looking at Cathay with their Crane gunners/ dragons
beastmen might be annoying in battle but theyre a bit of a joke on the campaign map. theyre always begging me for a military alliance while at the bottom of the power rankings
The 11th faction must be CA itself.
Oh easy:
1. Skaven
2. Skaven
3. Skaven
4. Skaven
5. Skaven
6. Skaven
7. Skaven
8. Skaven
9. Skaven
10. Skaven
I don't see how you can make this list and not include Tzeentch . Definitely number 1 for me
Lots of people saying tzeentch. Ive personally always found them easy to fight.
You just gotta go hard melee.
I've found the No. 1 rule with Beastmen is to always attack when as soon as they're discovered
The first few turns of them turning up are easy to deal with, but leave them a moment longer and they quickly snowball into a major threat; rampaging through your backlines while being impossible to track down.
Yes-yes. All as scheme-planned.
Tzeentch should be number 1.
Skaven have a huge negative their auto resolve power is completely useless no matter what army I always get wins in auto resolve. (Mostly playing hard or very hard)
wheres Tzeench?)))
Tzeench for me
Me and my buddy call their area of the content Vietnam, cause you just getting fucked up in the jungle.