I honestly think taking the Chaos Dwarf Hellforge mechanics would be WONDERFUL for regular Dwarfs. Oathgold is so plentiful mid-late game, and having extra buffs bought and upkept with Oathgold would be A+ and could be a great way to buff their weaker units like Slayers.
Are slayers really considered weak? Are they just OP asf when the A.I has them buffed on legendary, cuz no matteer what faction i am, i can be steamrolling and slayers always seem op, especially with deathblow mechanic giving them free kills per death against most armies they face.
@@lukedemler4421 They're fine if their conditions for battle are met, like taking down large targets or cavalry head on...the problem is their complete lack of armor. They will always take huge casualties when playing Dwarfs, especially if missile units get them in their sights.
@@lukedemler4421Slayers will ALWAYS get value against something in melee, especially large targets. That's why I do everything in my power to just occupy them with trash infantry and focus fire. They'll do some damage, but any missile fire turns them to paste. I don't play Dwarfs but the AI loves to focus fire on vulnerable units like that.
For Daniel, he needs to get other faction mechanics for devoting. Pick Nurgle, get the caldron, pick Tzeench, get changing of the ways, Slaanesh, get seduction for factions. He also needs redline skills on all of his lords for all factions (devoting to undivided still leads to monogod picks because his skill lines are still faction specific).
Also the Khorne secondary money building is hot garbage (it only gives gold when an enemy lord is present, so mostly never). Daniel himself also can't equip ancillaries. I agree giving him Norscan/Greenskin style confederation would add a lot to him, or letting him xfed after devoting to that god.
Those are good ideas. I think he also needs some unique chaos kislev units, or multi-god hybrid units. Something to set him apart from be'lakor and the everchosen as the "godslayer".
His skill tree should be applied factionwide make him a living tech tree and also give him the missing warrior units from the warriors dlc and work on fitting belakor into that faction having the build a demon on all of his demon princes he can make would be fantastic
What Daniel ACTUALLY needs is actually meeting his actual fucking fantasy of piecing together a choose your own Demon Roster. Instead of this BS "you have nothing at all for the first ten turns" and "it's turn 50, I have enough of all glory to cap out every tree at once if the game would let me", which then is also let down by the fact that your generic lords are literally just "here's the Monodaemon Lords, have fun I guess", which means the closest you can ACTUALLY get to a reasonably effective version of mixed armies is a Herald of Nurgle working with a Khorne Lord leading a Khorne Army.
For the ogres what i dislike with the contracts is that the missions are like you either have to go te other side of the world to reach your target or the target belong to someone you don't want to be at war with and it does not feel like you are hired by other factions like proper mercenaries
Yes. These are not mercenary missions; they are international incidents that lead to a mass war. It's less "cool mercenary" than "get a 1k gold to be used as a proxy war like I'm fucking north Korea".
The low hp recruitment is so bad for nurgle. Not only does it slow down an army that already takes ages to recruit interesting and varied armies that aren't just nurgling spam, it makes no lore sense nor does it fit with how nurgle is supposed to play. Nurgle followers are meant to be incredibly tanky and hard to kill so making it that spawning units are easy to kill just ruins their play style if you're already struggling in a tough war. They're also the only chaos faction that has this idea with warriors of chaos being able to recruit entire armies in a single turn with no downside
Also, why does the faction who in lore turns defeated enemies into more soldiers by infecting them have such high recruitment and upkeep cost? Nurgle's units are insanely priced along with their absolute crap economy, meaning you can hardly afford to upkeep just one army
@1YCARADOFACAO Sure, but that's a pipe dream. There needs to be money involved for CA to do anything, and a small thing like that, I would geuss, don't bring in nearly enough.
Can we make Vlad a proper elector count, giving him that mechanic from the empire? I think that would liven up the blandest of the four vampire counts, and create 4 very distinct campaigns.
Can Franz confederate him then? That’d be awkward summoning the elector counts every time, guy who tried to burn the empire down twice comes rocking up to the meeting. XD
@@joshmaggard6 that certainly is a route. The alternative would be that karl has to kinda destroy him, while he can use the elector count mechanics to convert electors into vampires and confederate them. However, as much as they may want to bicker among themselves, they're both gonna suffer if they let the empire decay to external forces, making your interactions between Karl and Vlad an interesting balance to strike.
@@joshmaggard6just once actually. He tried to take over the empire in first vampire war, during which there was no clear emperor and three claimants fought each other. He's been dead since then.
Vampire Counts should get the Champions of Chaos Treatment for each of the Bloodlines: -The von Carsteins are the Living marching with the Dead just like in the Vampire Wars (Hybrid Empire and Vampire Faction) -The Strigoi would be the Monster mash with some support from the Strigany -Blood Dragons would be a very Elite roster with a lot of Lesser Vampires similar to the Depth Guard -Lahmians would be a Vampiric Conspiracy with a large focus on skeletons and powerful Mortal thralls -The Nechrachs would be very similar to what we have now but with more ghosts and constructs -And Nagash of course gets everything that is undead, Such is the Power of Nagash!
The best rework they could give "Norsca" would be to expand them to more than just Norsca. Make them the Northmen Tribes, there are a lot of cool and interesting groups in the wastes. The Kurgan, the Hung, the Tong.
So I thought of a Ogre rework. Bassically you have "The Pot" (tm). It would work like a mix of skaven food mechanics and big trophies. Each lord has a pot for their army, which you fill by raiding and beating armies. When the pot is empty you get stuff like lower unit replenishment or maybe attrition but that might get annoying, maybe you can toggle lower replenishment to keep the pot full (trick new recruits and just eat them instead of actually recruiting them). The more food in the pot the more buffs the army gets, stuff like HP, leadership and melee defense buffs. But depending on what race you fill the pot with you get new buffs. And bc I don't like how Wah trophies don't stack the buff depends on the proportion of that race filling the pot, maybe in 5% chunks so 20 chunks total. For example eating dwarves would give natural spell resist, and at 100% dwarf filled pot you get the same natural resist that dwarves have. It would take work making balanced effects for each race but I think it would at least be something fun, that would change each lords army to have different things going on. I also think you should leave the option open to some funny stuff happening, like ogre units that die spawn a pack of zombies if you eat too many vampires, or explode with a warp bomb if you eat too many skaven. Not every race needs to 100% give a bonus imo, but most should
I actually noticed a thing about vampiric corruption the other day while playing vampire coast, on high corruption, you have a chance to regain lost units after battle which was pretty neat :D
for slaneesh : the fun thing about vassals is that you can take control of parts of the map that are at the other side of the world using the vassal mechanic combined with the cult mechanic. you can get a cult in the ogre mountains and have greasus become your vassal, giving you a shit ton of money without working for it while everybody in the area are scared of getting into a war against him because of the fact that it would mean declaring war on you also. and since the cult appear at random places, every campaign is very different from the other wince you'll always vallasize very different lords from very different places of the world. for daniel : i never thought about making mini daniels for my secondary armies but now that i've heard of it, i NEED it, and it's all your fault! for ogres : everything you said is the same thing i want since 2 years ago. for nurgle : 2 fixes to the building mecanic -> first you cut the price of every building by half, second you make it so the higher the level of the main building of the region, the bigger the number of units are added to your recruitment. meaning that once you get a level 5 main building, you'll produce 5 time more units per cycle.
If Daniel wants to become a Chaos God in his own right, it would make more sense to give him massive amounts of diplomacy buffs to non chaos factions. Allow him to use the changeling mechanic of setting up cults. The more worship you have the more buffs you get. Heck, give him corrupted units. Corrupted sacred kroxigors would be terrifying!
I mean TOW has rogue knights with bombards and gunpowder. Would be nice to be able to get more Grail inspired religious units if you go chivalry, but you can get herrimaults and gunpowder units if you go dastardly. It's also why Bretonnia really needs a lore update to include some version of crusading orders.
For Daniel it could be that when you go to a path, lets say khorne, you can confederate them at the style with Norsca, but if you go with Undivided ypu can vassal every chaos faction at least. Or get the tech of the path you choose, being the undivided a new one. I hope i explained myself well because English is not my main language
re Bretonnia, I'm a fan of having a restriction like the peasant economy as a thing, it perhaps just needs some redesign, either getting more unit cap per settlement or a bonus for controlling a whole province. You can always ignore it by building industry rather than farm economy buildings, which are worse but then don't get affected by any malus for going over the peasant cap. I wonder if something like a short-term bonus to the unit cap, or negating of it entirely for several turns after war is declared would be an idea, with the bad effects slowly building up the longer the peasants have been away from the fields. Also I've always been salty that the change to minor settlement battles re-worked Bretonnian minor settlements so they wouldn't become walled at tier 3. I liked them having this unique extra defensive ability cause Bretonnian garrisons are among the worst. I feel making tier 3 minor settlements have a minor settlement battle again, with the defensive building adding walls, would make them feel unique again.
The main rework the lizardmen need is an improved tech tree. It's really slow to work through and mainly just provides units with minor buffs. Compare it to the Cathay tech tree and you'll see what I mean.
Aside from Bloodlines and Ghorst's magnificent rebirth, Vampires have been hit with nerf after nerf. Right off the bat, no more free skeletons and the cairn/hexwraith building got bumped from T2/T3 to T3/T4. This also meant Banshees got bumped from T3 to T4 with it. With Bloodlines requiring you to go after lords and heroes, especially with wounding/assassination actions from your heroes, I have a hard time engaging with the Bloodline mechanic unless I'm playing as Vlad/Isabella and have the landmark that allows me to recruit Vampires at T1. I could use necromancers instead, but their strength is in boosting your economy and boosting your units in battle, they should not be your assassin heroes. TL;DR, give us a hero at T3 other than the Necromancer so I can actually play with the Bloodline mechanic before turn 60
My biggest issue with Daniel is really the fact that I feel punished for even having anything to do with Khorne due to the bloodletting mechanic. Remove the negatives of it for Daniel so he can have stationary defense armies at home and it'd be great. That, and his powers feel...Weak? Some generic lords can bully him into submission where he's supposed to be a Demon Prince. So maybe tweak his numbers to make him a powerhouse?
What the vampire counts really need is an encamp stance. Needing vampiric corruption or to be garrisoned for replenishment really holds them back especially when teaming up multiple stacks against enemies. Not to mention that they still take attrition from areas controlled by other undead factions (tomb kings).
Also instead of Baalthesar and Karl sharing mechanics, it should be Karl and Boris sharing mechanics when he and the Middenland expansion are released. Ruling over the Empire, building your Authority and the like with a rework helping in that regards. Give Baalthesar his own mechanics with the Wizard Colleges and leave leading the Empire to the two actual Emperor candidates.
Commenting even though you probably don't care: Factions are things like Eataine, Couronne, Reikland, Legion of Azgorh etc. What you're calling factions are actually known as Races - things like High Elves, Bretonnia, Empire and Chaos Dwarfs.
I think adding some of the 3K style mechanics is a good change. In particular, using how Empires work in 3K. In 3K, the tiered title system allows for multiple factions to be within an empire and have differing levels of autonomy - they can even feud with each other, which is basically just a war that doesn't pull in the parent empire in. Some of the merc mechanics for 3k and trading items would help immensely as well. As it stands, I feel the game design of TWW3 is put towards the battles. WHich is all well and good, but it makes the campaign underdeveloped in almost all regions. Everytime I play the campaign it just makes me wanna play other Total War games or 4X titles. Tech that gives me units and buildings. Trade resources that aren't just random number effects. (I.e. a trade resource of horses would actually allow me to recruit horses) Movable garrisons. meaningful diplomacy Give me instances where alliances are better than just taking the territory or confederating. The alliance system where you get 4 units to an army is an excellent *start*. I think that's whats the problem with TWW3. All the 4X mechanics are like good starter ideas or good concepts but are never followed through. If the 4X was just as competent as the battles...wow. CA would unironically monopolize the strategy sphere in an instant. What if the seduction mechanic had a new vassal type for Slaanesh? This vassal type changes the affinity/aversion of that faction and makes them great friends with all chaos aligned boys, and they can still act independently - they are just now chaos aligned? Instead of affecting growth, let population actually have numbers that scale with buildings.(again, 3K) (You can't have a level 5 town without X population...and plagues can kill population thresholds and de-level towns. Make town upgrades cheaper to compensate, but make them less powerful without supportive buildings.) Let garrisons be buildable instead of automatic. Fix the engine bug where armies need a lord to move around. Add alliance victory conditions. the basic addition of two resources for chorfs (and the devs acting like that would be too much for a community of tabletop loving dorks) gave them depth and shit to do in the campaign. Add more *depth*. For players who don't want depth, make the options toggleable, or add factions that are *really* simple. (I.e. Khorne or Greenskins) Add an age/politics system in the campaign, alongside proper dates, dependent on faction. Perhaps this can relate to certain side quests. This would also mean needing to create a system for new lords but we are talking ideals here, so I don't think this will happen, but I want it too. Have different eras ala CK3, where different lords are at play. A war of the beard, a vampire wars, etc etc, and then an immortal empires as the generic all in one campaign. Make the campaigns *shorter*, but more meaningful. Everyone quits by turn 150 anyways. If turns are longer, its less time waiting and more time playing. The closest we have to this is the Empire rework, which is great in idea, but again, bad in excecution. Add a religious system. An actual religious system ala Rome II/Atilla. Instead of corruption, make each corruption a type of religion with extremely negative effects, but you can also have disparities in untainted religions. Northern Empire Pantheon vs Southern Empire Pantheon vs Classical Pantheon (Myrmidia, Taal, etc) vs. Kislevite pantheon etc. Based on similarities, some pantheons can live in harmony with others. (Classical can persist through the Empire and the Southern Realms easily enough, but not so the other way around. Have each faction able to change and choose a state pantheon. (This can relate to seduction mechanics as well - allowing a faction to fall and fully worship Slaanesh or another chaos faction or Nagash or something) Add a recruitable mercanaries based on faction type and location. Empire boys can hire bretonnian mercs or kislevite mercs or southern realms mercs but not WoC mercs. For ease of use, this can be seperated into Order, Death, Destruction, and Chaos. Every faction aside from demons and tomb kings should have some level of food which dictates their population and how it rises and falls. Having too high or too low population can negatively effect things without proper infrastructure. Vamps can have like a blood tax system or something, and Vcoast might have a merge with the infamy system (i.e. being a captain of renown is what's keeping the psuedo sentient zombo pirates around) There is so much more I can add. Really, it's about replacing gimmicks and shitty number effects with mechanics that actively change the game and force the player to adopt new strategies and to do more with each turn beyond waiting and besieging.
For vampire coast I allways felt ca missed an opportunity there... If some of the tech would be locked behind you having to sack a settlement or construct a pirate cove somewhere from a special race, you would be inscentevized to sail arround more... Like wonna get some better canons: sack some dwarf or empire settlement or build a pirate cove there 🤔 plus get some cool banner or item... Even getting faction specific rare items would be nice maybe
Belegar needs to be reworked to Thoreks "Horde" faction. Belegar is the one who leads the grim brotherhood and finds the artifacts, Thorek only inspects them after Belegar brings them back.
For Nurgle, I wonder if something like the Throt vat mechanic would work. Building cycle for what you can recruit from the vat, but different buildings add different units. Nurglings are always there, but the buildings add the other units and increase the cash generated as they get higher up there. For the economy, a flat percentage gained from research, commandments, buildings, or a combination.
The lizardmen mechanic I've been thinking of is earning points from the geomantic web, where the amount of points earned per turn depends on the size and level of the web. These points you can then distribute for regional buffs, diplomacy with other lizardmen or buying those blessed spawnings. Depending on the effect they could cost some combination of per turn upkeep and/or one time cost. For vampire counts let's have the vampiric corruption matter more than a morale and attrition penalty it currently is. And make blood kisses useful for something after you've unlocked all the bloodlines. Low corruption = only low tier units available for raising no matter how big battlesite. High corruption = battlesites work as now and encroaching on enemy territory also buffs your bordering region recruitment speed and gives a diplomatic bonus. Perhaps even vampiric covens similar to undercities become available. Blood kisses could be used for creating heroes, perhaps even somehow boosted heroes. Or as a diplomacy resource. Or sabotaging the city defences during a siege. High elves could use some help too, especially Tyrion and Teclis since their intrigue mechanics are the plainest vanilla.
There WAS a mod that allowed the Vampire factions and Tomb Kings to get skeletal versions of quite a lot of different units (Hydras, dragons, crypt horrors (which I find pointless as a skeleton option), skin wolves, mammoths, et cetera), but I haven't heard anything about it being updated lately, and I honestly just use a mod that adds undead Norscan and Chaos infantry to the Counts roster instead. In the meantime, I'd recommend trying out Nanu's Pirates of Sartosa mod on the grounds that it makes Aranessa Saltspite more interesting as a faction leader by giving her faction access to a roster of living pirate units and some unique admiral lords that have something akin to genuine value, one of which allows you to get zombie versions of Dread Saurians and Feral Mammoths. Haven't tested whether those units can be obtained from an alliance with her, but Aranessa's hard to make alliances with for anyone who isn't from the Vampire Coast faction anyway.
if you don’t like VC too much, I would recommend trying out the Legions of Nagash mod. It’s incredibly fun and mixes all the undead factions very well!
The fact that even “big” RUclipsrs don’t understand the point of vassals or think they’re bad really makes me think I play this game too much. I’d start my own channel to teach you all from a platform but the world doesn’t need more RUclipsrs, so I’ll tell you here: The entire point is that you gain financial benefits with literally no risk to yourself and without needing to maintain or build regions or supply chains. If you lose or have a settlement threatened, it can cause a huge disruption to your gameplay. If you leave it in the hands of a vassal you can OPT to help them but the investment isn’t so large that it ruins your game. They serve as a warning for enemy armies, free peons you can tell what to do, resupply points for army health, and free money/buildings. Crazy that this is confusing for people when the games been out this long.
Moreover, in all the Total War games where you are expected to be heavily surrounded by either enemies or future traitorous, back-stabbing neighbors, I have found that vassals and allies are great resources for creating effective buffer zones. For instance, in Attila, dragging the german tribes into submission is VITAL for the survival of the Western Roman Empire, since you can foresee the hun hordes and allocate forces accordingly while your allies throw everything up in order to save you some precious time. As the world has expanded a lot with the Immortal Empires campaign and now that the landscape is filled with null geopolitical order where tons of opposite factions fight each other in all directions, the role of vassals and allies is key to effectively concentrate in one particular front to obliterate any corresponding foe. Yeah, they usually behave without much logic, but scrapping the margin that they offer is still crucial and very exploitable.
From an allied recruitment perspective vassals can be better than military allies because vassals won't drag you into wars and will fight any war you want them to unless they don't like you and that means you will more likely keep hold of your outposts and recruited allied units. Also, getting vassals helps some races/factions become stronger such as Vampire Counts - gaining vassals grants 1 blood kiss per vassal.
For the lizardmen part of the problem is 8th ed sacred spawnings. The sacred spawnings in 6ed where much more characterful Imagine being able to recruit vanguard deployed cavalry killing Sacred Saurus of Huanchi, Maybe skinks of Tepok with magic resistance and bound spells. Chotec perfect vigour and fire attacks, maybe one type of unit for each old one or maybe just 5 of them. Maybe a geomantic energy bar thar accumulates over time which can either give the buffs to edicts, but can be uses up in one big go to teleport armies or to terraform a province to a jungle like they did in Albion
I thought about my personal list after seeing the thumbnail but before watching it. And I cant believe Im saying this but its the first time I 100% agree with one of ur lists. great job 👍🏼
Given the role of the lizardmen and their attempts to execute the impossible to comprehend great plan, I'd like the Geomantic web to be something that mutates and grows over the campaign, with each game pulling 10 or so missions from a random grab-bag that each give significant buffs like... "x terrain goes from inhabitable to preferred at geomantic web strength 2 in the area." "suppress x corruption by 3 per level of geomantic web". This way the geomantic web can be an active driver
honestly people that think festus ruined Franz campaign don't get hpw to actually play franz. cause now it's not as slow to get authorit and prestege as it was before. not you have shit to do and land to give back and an actual opponent to fight. cause you can hold grom of with jus the fort, even on legendary kemmler is 50-50 to declare war and can be held with same fort. khazrak dies on turn what 7 maybe 8 if you get to play karl then kill GS into festus turn 20 and you are done with festus if you wish but i recommend let him do some damage cause you will never drop below -4 anyway if you don't rush confederation. as for vlad you have to push him to let him be him get passed tabacland you are at least turn 30+ and if you still have issues wih him then you lack the skills for that difficulty and try again on a lower one. which isn't a bad thing bu you are not skilled enough for that level. but just because you think you should be able to doesn't mean you will be able to and CA should not nerf shit because of it. it's like saying i can swim so why can't i be paid to swim at the olympics... DO heavily agree with the Geomantic web, you even missed an important part that the lizards already struggle to get enough buildings in their province. most factions can get the buildings 4+ into a 7 slot but the lizards can't. partly because of that dumb geomantic building Hottake: Orges are worse then the horde mechanic of WoC. cause they have the same dumb mechanic with the "horde building" that doesn't even move and need additional units you need to pay upkeep for. and on top of all that their LL suck bigtime and their melee lord hero lack casulties replentishment that the magic lord does have. so even lore of fire to use with firebellies is not worth it
I hate the dwarf banner/rune system. You are limited in two ways, creation and equipping. Creation is a once and done mechanic, you get the number listed for your faction and that's it. Equipping you are only allowed 8 in a army of 20. The lords and heros they kinda work on but not for your standard units. I would love if it worked like clan eshin's mechanic where once you build a rune forge you are able to assign lords and heros of a sufficient level to make a rune that is then selected though a scrap like mechanic. Sending the lords/heros out is limited by turns and space at the forge with the more impactful runes being avable only once the hero/lord is a high enough level.
All the vanilla lords needs more love. Like Tyrion is supposed to be the most powerful Elf there is and heir to the throne but almost all other high elf factions are better. This is just an example but you get my drift. It’s like 0 resins to play as grimgor over other greenskins.
Your idea for daniel is fantastic! Im playing a campaign right now and went down the nurgle line (boring!) it would be awesome to build different demons w the parts u acquire and use the entire roster accordingly
Daniel just shouldn't be in the game. We all know it, and we all know it's not going to happen. But at the end of the day, he'll always just be the afterbirth of the Realm of Chaos campaign.
*Vampire Counts* *Day & Night* _Night:_ Vampire Count units gain +5% Magic resist, Morale, Cooldown reduction, Speed & Charge. _Dawn & Dusk:_ No modification. _Day:_ Vampire Count units gain -5% Magic resist, Morale, Cooldown reduction, Speed & Charge. All combats have a timer (say 3 min). When on a Vampire player's turn, combat starts at night. Any other player turn (if the vampire is attacked, or if the vampire ambushes), combat starts day. After the timer, dawn/dusk happens, and another timer is set (say 1 min). Then it shifts to day/night. Each rank of Lightning Strike increases the timer on night missions by 30 seconds. Eternal Warden reduces timer on day combat by 30 seconds. 75%+ and 100% Vampiric Corruption increases those values to +7.5% / +2.5% / -2.5% and +10% / +5% / +0%. Corrupted Lord and Heroes (no matter which faction they belong to) gain the bonuses (if any), but not the penalties. *Kiss* _Recruitment:_ Whenever a non-legendary, non-immortal Lord or Hero that is killed (and that does not crumble/vanish) on the battlefield against a Vampire Count player, Assassinated by a Vampire Count player, the Lord/Hero becomes available for recruitment by that Vampire Count players at a cost of 1 Kiss (level 1-4), 2 Kisses (level 5-9), 3 kisses (level 10-14) or 4 kisses (level 15-19). It becomes undead, its school of magic, if any, is replaced with Death or Vampire, spread Vampiric Corruption and gains "Army gains "Hates [Original Owner's Faction]"". When defeated again, on its current turn (if it is its original owner's turn), or next turn otherwise, its previous owner may recruit the fallen Hero / Lord again, but said Hero / Lord remains Undead, spread Vampiric Corruption, and its "Hates" ability is shifted to Vampire Counts. It remains "Corrupted". It can be removed like the Gift of Slaanesh. _Corruption:_ Whenever a Legendary or Immortal Lord or Hero (from a living faction) is wounded in battle by a Vampire Count player, it becomes "Corrupted". It gains the Undead tag, spread Vampiric Corruption, and "Army gains "Hates Vampire Counts"". It can be removed like the Gift of Slaanesh. _Puppet Mastery:_ A Vampire Count player can spend 3 Kisses to prevent an opposing Corrupted Hero from participating in combat, or 10 Kisses to force a Lord to Break Siege or Retreat. If a Corrupted Lord belongs to a Computer Player, the Vampire Count player can spend 10 Kisses and its army's defeat value in Gold to borrow it and its army.
Daniel really should be able to get warrior of chaos units and maybe even beastmen. Give the faction some quests which allows him to recruit "followers" by Killing some legendary Lords.
would like just small little tweak for Tomb Kings - second army slot from start, cause their early units are on weaker spectrum and at the same time you can't get more than 19
@@jannovy7229 I'm just tired of Manfred drowning my crap with his every other Setra Campaign. I almost always end up with puric victories against his 1.5-2 stacks and ebing true undead he regain numbers quiker. you can't even bait him to come with one army with empty lord and ambushing cetra cause i have only Setra.
@@НикитаМаркитан Then ambush just with Setra before a city. You should try playing Khatep. I chose him because his bonuses looked the sweetest, but I weren't checking the starting positions then. I was simultaneously in war against top 10 strength Cult of Pleasure and Hexoatl + the the very annoying minor DE and Skaven factions. After I pushed thought the dinos and was able to finally get some diplomacy with bent over pirates I got immediately attacked by massive Pestilens and Blessed Dread alliances, and when I started to stabilize and gain ground, I was attacked from North by Naggarond that stopped my war with his huge mommy by confederating her and had more than 150 settlements at that point. I just stopped the campaign when it was just me and few random surviving factions with 2 settlements against Naggarond which conquered everything all the way to the bottom right corner of the map, and I was gaining ground about in the middle of the map on all fronts in ME - that was just turn 150-200, I think. I was playing on legendary/hard in WH2, so it wasn't a piece of cake either. I would have won for sure, but it would take tens of hours of boring, annoying, cheesy absolutely monotonous conquest and I was being super disappointed and annoyed by the TK roster and gameplay already.
I want that Geomantic web idea you have, so bad. Where's the mod for that As to the Vamp counts, maybe even a per-army energy bar that fills per raised unit, price depending on quality?
*_Demons of Chaos_* is the faction I find the most Irksome. I like the swapping of "Parts", but a lot of those parts seem redundant or lackluster in comparison with other parts... and just become a bunch of grey area that you never want to touch. Also, while parts are great, I find that not being able to equip banners or magic items makes him less fun to play.
On the topic of Vampires being able to raise zombie versions of foreign units, here are some ideas from me: 1: Zombie Dragons from any Elven faction that had a dragon in their army. 2: Zombie Giants from any army that had a giant. 3: Zombie Skaven Monsters like Brood horrors and Rat Ogres from any Skaven faction (Throt can already make his units undead so why not the vampires). Those are some of my ideas, anyone else got some?
I think we'll need a legendary hero DLC in the future. Many factions shouldn't wait until a DLC comes out. Look at Khemri, Vampire Coast, Norsca and Ogres all of them need LH but waiting until a DLC would suck... Is easier to give us a DLC with 3-6 LH instead of LL that need a whole new start location and maybe at least a bit of a unique or reused mechanics
I feel like the empire need a bit of a buff, with festus just slap bang in the middle of the empire it is a nightmare to get on top of. Not to mention the usual beast men, Norsca, vlad, grom and others that you eventually have to deal with
Personally I feel like every Lizardmen lord should have access to the sacrifice mechanic, but Tehenhuin gets either stronger/better/cheaper sacrifices, or another tier of sacrifices. It fits the Aztec theme a lot better.
The only lizardman that has this blood sacrifice thing going for them is Tehenuin. The other lizard men don't ritualistically sacrifice their captives, they usually eat them. For the lizardmen a good thing would be fixing the geomantic web
I thought factions meant not races, but legendary lords like Queek without his Headtaker mechanic, Skrolk with plagues, that can't be compared to Nurgle (I know that plague lord and plague God is another level, but come on he needs something), Tretch being Tretch and Gelt being an emperor on the campaign map, but yes since chaos warriors rework there's no reason to play Daniel for his undivided roster and his economy is somehow worse than Kislev's, so if he can't trade, because he's a filthy demon like N'kari and Be'lakor, then at least let him spend his glory in any way, because he has it maxed very early in the game and has nothing to do with it when income buildings, military buildings, materials buildings, post battle loot, quests and commandments all give so much of it
Before watching any of the video, I bet you are going to mention Ogre Kingdoms! Their roster is so unique but I wish they had more engaging mechanics on campaign map to match how fun they are on the battlefield. Crushers with great weapons are my fav! Cheers
I started playing ftom TWW2, and as soon I seen Norsca I fell in love, I immedeately bought both TWW1 and Norsca DLC, and started playing doggos. Imagine my pain right now, as my #1 favorite faction have no updates for 7 years already.
I whole heartledly agree with that the vampires should be able to recruit enemy units (ofcourse limited ). Imagine having an undead eagle or like you said a mammoth, (since you can get living units like the sylvanian crossbowmen and gunners as ROR). IMAGINE UNDEAD RATS. FUCKING UNDEAD RATS . I WOULD SHIT MYSELF
I think the lizardmen are fine they just have the too many lords per square foot problem Everyone is in lustria so after you win your first few battles you run into a friendly lord you dont want to be at war with Kroq gar runs into tik tak to fast with teclis below you (who is friendly) so you can really only go to fight the orcs or the tomb kings
ive played bretonnia campaign right now and peasant limitation doesnt bother me at all. because i never pick them up in the first place. their economy so damn powerful so you just recruit questing knights and knights of the real and they roll over everything. then u just recruit full grail army and gg ez.
Since Vampire Counts are related to the Tomb Kings, I believe they should get some of their units with a goth/dark variant, specially the giant monsters.
The vampire count problem at the moment for me as totally them beeing boring. The change ca made making the gallow building giving so much money is good for the early game and makes the campaign much easier so much, that you only need that building. You just raise dead and build gallows.... Yeah that sounds fun.... I would definitely enjoy a mechanic you can mentioned, having undead carnosaurs, dragons, giants, great stags, mammoths, but would require ca to put in actual work... Why I don't really see it happening sadly, but it would be awesome. For me the bloodline mechanic feels like just a better techtree atm and you could easily combine the two, for an interesting techtree, giving you a legendary hero or lord at the end of each bloodline... That would be a nice way to add in some named characters. I would like a warriors of chaos style dlc adding in the missing bloodlines, and actual mechanics for the new legendary lords ... I am mostly here for necrarchs, but the vamps have been so forgotten, they really could use a big dlc... Furthers the base heros could use some extra skills to make them more special and not capping out on like level 39.... I want animated Armour, undead basilics, abysal terrors, and simulacras... and give kemmler final the tomb scorpion and krell still should be a legendary hero... Manfred Stil doesn't have a unique skilltree only 2 lores of magic yeah... Lots of homework for ca But please make them more interesting again... They are powerful, but boring... Make them powerful and interesting. Or even less powerful but more interesting Oh for raise dead as it works now,... At least make it that you can only raise dead specific high tier units, if you got the building somewhere. Just something to make it nassasry to actual build some of the buildings.... Oh and atm the corruption building is just useless... You build the skaven discovereability building and are good... So we have an actual another useless building.... Please ca give the vamps the love they missed the last like 7 or maybe allready 8 years!
The problem with the Empire is that it's the same as Daniel's faction : when the Empire is united , Imperial Prestige and Influence become useless! What the Empire needs, is a mechanic that is usable at ALL times. Karl Franz need a "Steel , Faith and Gunpowder" type of mechanic, boosting units that are thematic to those elements that are VITAL to the Empire's lore!
My biggest issue with all the reworks is the constant power creep. This game is getting easier and easier to the point of not being fun. Don't know what CA does but it seems that most of those new mechanics benefits the player only, AI doesn't know how to use it properly.
To be fair with the community and it's efforts the Ogrehaul mod goes a pretty damn long way at making Ogres very playable. Love it to death. Past that though I ain't found a good mercenary mod so that could be improved maybe make em like the mercenary enclaves of stellaris where you could have one auxiliary camp that does its own thing an pays gold to you. Or maybe like you designated a single army as a mercenary group, other faction at war can contract thay army and depending on the war results you get som many rewards or lose relations if you army dies early. Maybe some random events to complicate thi gs.
@Colonel Damneders 1) you do know that many people who play Strategy games have fun from the balance they offer - hence the challenge that is created by the balance ? 2) Creating balance is hard, this is what people are getting paid for, making unbalanced broken shit is easy - for example you can easily go and add a mod that gives you 10 skill points per level, since you clearly your fun is just a mass of broken OP shit, I suggest you go to the mod section instead of waiting for actual CA work. There you can find added heroes that boost armies like crazy, added mechanics such as the Chorfs court to HE and with it lots of buffs and imbalance and so on, I am pretty sure you can even find Dwarves units with naplam or whatever or rats that can sends 10 nukes per second :). Bottom line is, I appreciate your effort in creating this video, and its good people set expectations from CA, but what you mentioned as fun is basically 'cheat codes', I get while some people have fun from those but many don't. The true art in Age of Empires wasn't the addition of the laser car, but rather the balance the devs created between the diiferent unique factions that created challenge. So while I do hope for reworks for all the factions you mentioned, I don't want to see CA goes in the direction of almost any of the suggestions you brought up.
on top of the norsca rework could they maybe fix the fact that hunts have been broken for like years now. I love norsca as a faction but they feel so underpowered compared to other factions especially when you get locked out of the hunting mechanic.
As someone who primarily plays multiplayer campaigns, I don´t really care if campaign mechanics are op as long as their fun to play with and against. Battle balancing on the other hand should be balanced arround multiplayer: It´s where armies are actually played to their full potential. I don´t know how balancing units arround AI often making stupid decisions would even work. You can still give them crazy campaign buffs though :D
I always thought that Daniel should be a legendary hero for Belakor and just leave the customizations and enhancement for his army as part of his kit or power up his base lords.
I would really like to see a lot of reworks. Especially orgers, norsca and vampire counts (Like your idea). And also new units for some race packs, to bring freah air for some undeads... Pirats and Mummys. But honestly i didnt even see big reworks for the upcoming races. The last "reworks" wasnt enough for kislev or tzech so actually still most of the race of warhammer 3 sucks. With Cathay i'm unsure, didnt play the both reworks yet and i think focusing always on harmony is boring.
Demons of Chaos needs a rework, stripping some things from daniel that really should have been a tech tree, so that our other major demon of chaos, Be'lakor, can come home. Big names should actually be big names, and ogre camps should be able to move, even if snowly or with significant cooldown. Norsca... need a complete rethink
I love the idea of the VC rework but that means that CA would have to reskin every unit in the game to an undead version. That seems like way to much work for a rework unfortunately
all fractions is good when understand how they work lol. only who need maybe rework is demons of chaos, ogres and norska. definetly NOT bretonia, kugath or vampires.
Seriously, no High Elves? They did not have a single change in mechanics since launch, influence system is mildly useful at best while being crippling at worst, making you save old characters to go around having to recruit those with debilitating traits. Not to mention it's completely uninteresting. They have no means of confederating other lords other than just waiting for the button to turn green which is either next to impossible, given how strong they usually are (Ulthuan factions) or they just get eradicated before you get to them (Imrik, Alith Anar, Teclis). The only lord that can inhabit entire Ulthuan is Eltharion, who is actually encouraged to leave the continent - Tyrion and Alarielle whose entire point is uniting Ulthuan have several uninhabitable settlements. Yes HEs are a strong faction with a powerful economy and very good units. That doesn't mean they are fun to play.
I honestly think taking the Chaos Dwarf Hellforge mechanics would be WONDERFUL for regular Dwarfs. Oathgold is so plentiful mid-late game, and having extra buffs bought and upkept with Oathgold would be A+ and could be a great way to buff their weaker units like Slayers.
Are slayers really considered weak? Are they just OP asf when the A.I has them buffed on legendary, cuz no matteer what faction i am, i can be steamrolling and slayers always seem op, especially with deathblow mechanic giving them free kills per death against most armies they face.
@@lukedemler4421 They're fine if their conditions for battle are met, like taking down large targets or cavalry head on...the problem is their complete lack of armor. They will always take huge casualties when playing Dwarfs, especially if missile units get them in their sights.
@@lukedemler4421Slayers will ALWAYS get value against something in melee, especially large targets. That's why I do everything in my power to just occupy them with trash infantry and focus fire. They'll do some damage, but any missile fire turns them to paste. I don't play Dwarfs but the AI loves to focus fire on vulnerable units like that.
Slayers are weak when you use them as infantry. They are cavalry/monster/single entity killers. OP as shit when I use them
For Daniel, he needs to get other faction mechanics for devoting. Pick Nurgle, get the caldron, pick Tzeench, get changing of the ways, Slaanesh, get seduction for factions. He also needs redline skills on all of his lords for all factions (devoting to undivided still leads to monogod picks because his skill lines are still faction specific).
Also the Khorne secondary money building is hot garbage (it only gives gold when an enemy lord is present, so mostly never). Daniel himself also can't equip ancillaries. I agree giving him Norscan/Greenskin style confederation would add a lot to him, or letting him xfed after devoting to that god.
Those are good ideas. I think he also needs some unique chaos kislev units, or multi-god hybrid units. Something to set him apart from be'lakor and the everchosen as the "godslayer".
The fact that everything you asked for can be done in mod, speaks volumes about CA.
His skill tree should be applied factionwide make him a living tech tree and also give him the missing warrior units from the warriors dlc and work on fitting belakor into that faction having the build a demon on all of his demon princes he can make would be fantastic
What Daniel ACTUALLY needs is actually meeting his actual fucking fantasy of piecing together a choose your own Demon Roster. Instead of this BS "you have nothing at all for the first ten turns" and "it's turn 50, I have enough of all glory to cap out every tree at once if the game would let me", which then is also let down by the fact that your generic lords are literally just "here's the Monodaemon Lords, have fun I guess", which means the closest you can ACTUALLY get to a reasonably effective version of mixed armies is a Herald of Nurgle working with a Khorne Lord leading a Khorne Army.
For the ogres what i dislike with the contracts is that the missions are like you either have to go te other side of the world to reach your target or the target belong to someone you don't want to be at war with and it does not feel like you are hired by other factions like proper mercenaries
Easy fix copy the contract mechanic from the bandits of three kingdoms
Yes. These are not mercenary missions; they are international incidents that lead to a mass war. It's less "cool mercenary" than "get a 1k gold to be used as a proxy war like I'm fucking north Korea".
#1 faction that needs a rework is CA themselves
Yeah *entire investor and executives have been used as sacrifices*
Burn 🔥
Idk I think all the roster trimming they've done has been a pretty bad rework
The low hp recruitment is so bad for nurgle. Not only does it slow down an army that already takes ages to recruit interesting and varied armies that aren't just nurgling spam, it makes no lore sense nor does it fit with how nurgle is supposed to play. Nurgle followers are meant to be incredibly tanky and hard to kill so making it that spawning units are easy to kill just ruins their play style if you're already struggling in a tough war. They're also the only chaos faction that has this idea with warriors of chaos being able to recruit entire armies in a single turn with no downside
Also, why does the faction who in lore turns defeated enemies into more soldiers by infecting them have such high recruitment and upkeep cost? Nurgle's units are insanely priced along with their absolute crap economy, meaning you can hardly afford to upkeep just one army
I would like the Dwarves have a runic buff for their units, like the Dryads, treemen and the Orcs
There are 2 different mods for that.
@@olekjaer86 Wouldn't it be nice if a mod WASN'T needed for that?
@@1YCARADOFACAO Sure
@1YCARADOFACAO Sure, but that's a pipe dream. There needs to be money involved for CA to do anything, and a small thing like that, I would geuss, don't bring in nearly enough.
Can we make Vlad a proper elector count, giving him that mechanic from the empire? I think that would liven up the blandest of the four vampire counts, and create 4 very distinct campaigns.
Can Franz confederate him then? That’d be awkward summoning the elector counts every time, guy who tried to burn the empire down twice comes rocking up to the meeting. XD
@@joshmaggard6 that certainly is a route. The alternative would be that karl has to kinda destroy him, while he can use the elector count mechanics to convert electors into vampires and confederate them. However, as much as they may want to bicker among themselves, they're both gonna suffer if they let the empire decay to external forces, making your interactions between Karl and Vlad an interesting balance to strike.
@@joshmaggard6just once actually. He tried to take over the empire in first vampire war, during which there was no clear emperor and three claimants fought each other. He's been dead since then.
Multiple lords having body part changes for Daniel’s faction is such a good idea, would be so fun.
Vampire Counts should get the Champions of Chaos Treatment for each of the Bloodlines:
-The von Carsteins are the Living marching with the Dead just like in the Vampire Wars (Hybrid Empire and Vampire Faction)
-The Strigoi would be the Monster mash with some support from the Strigany
-Blood Dragons would be a very Elite roster with a lot of Lesser Vampires similar to the Depth Guard
-Lahmians would be a Vampiric Conspiracy with a large focus on skeletons and powerful Mortal thralls
-The Nechrachs would be very similar to what we have now but with more ghosts and constructs
-And Nagash of course gets everything that is undead, Such is the Power of Nagash!
Now that sounds fun!
Totally agree Vamps need separate DLC format like Chaos Warriors.
The best rework they could give "Norsca" would be to expand them to more than just Norsca. Make them the Northmen Tribes, there are a lot of cool and interesting groups in the wastes. The Kurgan, the Hung, the Tong.
Or have those as separate factions, in the same way as Warriors of Chaos DLC.
@@DreamMarko I think that's the bare minimum and you could do that for campaign, but in multiplayer it should be one faction.
@@Shad0wthr0ne I agree with that, they could do 4-5 different barbarian/norse factions like that.
So I thought of a Ogre rework. Bassically you have "The Pot" (tm). It would work like a mix of skaven food mechanics and big trophies. Each lord has a pot for their army, which you fill by raiding and beating armies. When the pot is empty you get stuff like lower unit replenishment or maybe attrition but that might get annoying, maybe you can toggle lower replenishment to keep the pot full (trick new recruits and just eat them instead of actually recruiting them). The more food in the pot the more buffs the army gets, stuff like HP, leadership and melee defense buffs. But depending on what race you fill the pot with you get new buffs. And bc I don't like how Wah trophies don't stack the buff depends on the proportion of that race filling the pot, maybe in 5% chunks so 20 chunks total. For example eating dwarves would give natural spell resist, and at 100% dwarf filled pot you get the same natural resist that dwarves have. It would take work making balanced effects for each race but I think it would at least be something fun, that would change each lords army to have different things going on. I also think you should leave the option open to some funny stuff happening, like ogre units that die spawn a pack of zombies if you eat too many vampires, or explode with a warp bomb if you eat too many skaven. Not every race needs to 100% give a bonus imo, but most should
This is great 👍 would really love to see this happen
Completely and utterly against removing the cyclical Nurgle building. Agree with the rest
I actually noticed a thing about vampiric corruption the other day while playing vampire coast, on high corruption, you have a chance to regain lost units after battle which was pretty neat :D
for slaneesh : the fun thing about vassals is that you can take control of parts of the map that are at the other side of the world using the vassal mechanic combined with the cult mechanic. you can get a cult in the ogre mountains and have greasus become your vassal, giving you a shit ton of money without working for it while everybody in the area are scared of getting into a war against him because of the fact that it would mean declaring war on you also. and since the cult appear at random places, every campaign is very different from the other wince you'll always vallasize very different lords from very different places of the world.
for daniel : i never thought about making mini daniels for my secondary armies but now that i've heard of it, i NEED it, and it's all your fault!
for ogres : everything you said is the same thing i want since 2 years ago.
for nurgle : 2 fixes to the building mecanic -> first you cut the price of every building by half, second you make it so the higher the level of the main building of the region, the bigger the number of units are added to your recruitment. meaning that once you get a level 5 main building, you'll produce 5 time more units per cycle.
If Daniel wants to become a Chaos God in his own right, it would make more sense to give him massive amounts of diplomacy buffs to non chaos factions.
Allow him to use the changeling mechanic of setting up cults.
The more worship you have the more buffs you get.
Heck, give him corrupted units.
Corrupted sacred kroxigors would be terrifying!
Can lizardmen fall to chaos? I have never heard of that.
That "dishonorable lord" mechanic for Brettonia sounds sooo darn good 😮
Absolutely, let’s see a Mordred LL to contrast our current roster of King Arthur’s
if they ever add the red duke, that would be a fun way to do it. still a brenninian, but also a vampire
I mean TOW has rogue knights with bombards and gunpowder. Would be nice to be able to get more Grail inspired religious units if you go chivalry, but you can get herrimaults and gunpowder units if you go dastardly. It's also why Bretonnia really needs a lore update to include some version of crusading orders.
would be cool if you could be a bretonnian lord that becomes a full blown chaos lord
Hope they do a big rework on Ogres and Norsca including 2 legendary lords for each factions (one as a lordpack and one as a free lord)
Ogre Kingdom should get a mechanic where you add abilities from other factions to your Ogres bulls/man eaters.
Someone suggested a scrap mechanic for maneaters to adopt different cultures
For Daniel it could be that when you go to a path, lets say khorne, you can confederate them at the style with Norsca, but if you go with Undivided ypu can vassal every chaos faction at least. Or get the tech of the path you choose, being the undivided a new one.
I hope i explained myself well because English is not my main language
i think ogre contracts would be great if it were something akin to randomly generated guest/lord item battles
re Bretonnia, I'm a fan of having a restriction like the peasant economy as a thing, it perhaps just needs some redesign, either getting more unit cap per settlement or a bonus for controlling a whole province. You can always ignore it by building industry rather than farm economy buildings, which are worse but then don't get affected by any malus for going over the peasant cap.
I wonder if something like a short-term bonus to the unit cap, or negating of it entirely for several turns after war is declared would be an idea, with the bad effects slowly building up the longer the peasants have been away from the fields.
Also I've always been salty that the change to minor settlement battles re-worked Bretonnian minor settlements so they wouldn't become walled at tier 3. I liked them having this unique extra defensive ability cause Bretonnian garrisons are among the worst. I feel making tier 3 minor settlements have a minor settlement battle again, with the defensive building adding walls, would make them feel unique again.
The main rework the lizardmen need is an improved tech tree. It's really slow to work through and mainly just provides units with minor buffs. Compare it to the Cathay tech tree and you'll see what I mean.
Aside from Bloodlines and Ghorst's magnificent rebirth, Vampires have been hit with nerf after nerf. Right off the bat, no more free skeletons and the cairn/hexwraith building got bumped from T2/T3 to T3/T4. This also meant Banshees got bumped from T3 to T4 with it. With Bloodlines requiring you to go after lords and heroes, especially with wounding/assassination actions from your heroes, I have a hard time engaging with the Bloodline mechanic unless I'm playing as Vlad/Isabella and have the landmark that allows me to recruit Vampires at T1. I could use necromancers instead, but their strength is in boosting your economy and boosting your units in battle, they should not be your assassin heroes.
TL;DR, give us a hero at T3 other than the Necromancer so I can actually play with the Bloodline mechanic before turn 60
My biggest issue with Daniel is really the fact that I feel punished for even having anything to do with Khorne due to the bloodletting mechanic. Remove the negatives of it for Daniel so he can have stationary defense armies at home and it'd be great. That, and his powers feel...Weak? Some generic lords can bully him into submission where he's supposed to be a Demon Prince. So maybe tweak his numbers to make him a powerhouse?
What the vampire counts really need is an encamp stance. Needing vampiric corruption or to be garrisoned for replenishment really holds them back especially when teaming up multiple stacks against enemies. Not to mention that they still take attrition from areas controlled by other undead factions (tomb kings).
Also instead of Baalthesar and Karl sharing mechanics, it should be Karl and Boris sharing mechanics when he and the Middenland expansion are released. Ruling over the Empire, building your Authority and the like with a rework helping in that regards. Give Baalthesar his own mechanics with the Wizard Colleges and leave leading the Empire to the two actual Emperor candidates.
Commenting even though you probably don't care:
Factions are things like Eataine, Couronne, Reikland, Legion of Azgorh etc.
What you're calling factions are actually known as Races - things like High Elves, Bretonnia, Empire and Chaos Dwarfs.
Semantics
Yep, never claimed otherwise. Just a minor pet peeve.
@@natbirch8809 eeh. In the broad sense the empire ,high elves , etc,.. are factions
I think adding some of the 3K style mechanics is a good change. In particular, using how Empires work in 3K. In 3K, the tiered title system allows for multiple factions to be within an empire and have differing levels of autonomy - they can even feud with each other, which is basically just a war that doesn't pull in the parent empire in. Some of the merc mechanics for 3k and trading items would help immensely as well.
As it stands, I feel the game design of TWW3 is put towards the battles. WHich is all well and good, but it makes the campaign underdeveloped in almost all regions. Everytime I play the campaign it just makes me wanna play other Total War games or 4X titles. Tech that gives me units and buildings. Trade resources that aren't just random number effects. (I.e. a trade resource of horses would actually allow me to recruit horses) Movable garrisons. meaningful diplomacy Give me instances where alliances are better than just taking the territory or confederating. The alliance system where you get 4 units to an army is an excellent *start*. I think that's whats the problem with TWW3. All the 4X mechanics are like good starter ideas or good concepts but are never followed through. If the 4X was just as competent as the battles...wow. CA would unironically monopolize the strategy sphere in an instant.
What if the seduction mechanic had a new vassal type for Slaanesh? This vassal type changes the affinity/aversion of that faction and makes them great friends with all chaos aligned boys, and they can still act independently - they are just now chaos aligned?
Instead of affecting growth, let population actually have numbers that scale with buildings.(again, 3K) (You can't have a level 5 town without X population...and plagues can kill population thresholds and de-level towns. Make town upgrades cheaper to compensate, but make them less powerful without supportive buildings.)
Let garrisons be buildable instead of automatic. Fix the engine bug where armies need a lord to move around.
Add alliance victory conditions.
the basic addition of two resources for chorfs (and the devs acting like that would be too much for a community of tabletop loving dorks) gave them depth and shit to do in the campaign. Add more *depth*. For players who don't want depth, make the options toggleable, or add factions that are *really* simple. (I.e. Khorne or Greenskins)
Add an age/politics system in the campaign, alongside proper dates, dependent on faction. Perhaps this can relate to certain side quests. This would also mean needing to create a system for new lords but we are talking ideals here, so I don't think this will happen, but I want it too. Have different eras ala CK3, where different lords are at play. A war of the beard, a vampire wars, etc etc, and then an immortal empires as the generic all in one campaign. Make the campaigns *shorter*, but more meaningful. Everyone quits by turn 150 anyways. If turns are longer, its less time waiting and more time playing. The closest we have to this is the Empire rework, which is great in idea, but again, bad in excecution.
Add a religious system. An actual religious system ala Rome II/Atilla. Instead of corruption, make each corruption a type of religion with extremely negative effects, but you can also have disparities in untainted religions. Northern Empire Pantheon vs Southern Empire Pantheon vs Classical Pantheon (Myrmidia, Taal, etc) vs. Kislevite pantheon etc. Based on similarities, some pantheons can live in harmony with others. (Classical can persist through the Empire and the Southern Realms easily enough, but not so the other way around. Have each faction able to change and choose a state pantheon. (This can relate to seduction mechanics as well - allowing a faction to fall and fully worship Slaanesh or another chaos faction or Nagash or something)
Add a recruitable mercanaries based on faction type and location. Empire boys can hire bretonnian mercs or kislevite mercs or southern realms mercs but not WoC mercs. For ease of use, this can be seperated into Order, Death, Destruction, and Chaos.
Every faction aside from demons and tomb kings should have some level of food which dictates their population and how it rises and falls. Having too high or too low population can negatively effect things without proper infrastructure. Vamps can have like a blood tax system or something, and Vcoast might have a merge with the infamy system (i.e. being a captain of renown is what's keeping the psuedo sentient zombo pirates around)
There is so much more I can add. Really, it's about replacing gimmicks and shitty number effects with mechanics that actively change the game and force the player to adopt new strategies and to do more with each turn beyond waiting and besieging.
Skarsnik looking awfully red and buff in that intro…🤔
I don’t always agree with the list orders, but this one is flat out perfect. No notes. 👍🏻
For vampire coast I allways felt ca missed an opportunity there... If some of the tech would be locked behind you having to sack a settlement or construct a pirate cove somewhere from a special race, you would be inscentevized to sail arround more... Like wonna get some better canons: sack some dwarf or empire settlement or build a pirate cove there 🤔 plus get some cool banner or item... Even getting faction specific rare items would be nice maybe
Belegar needs to be reworked to Thoreks "Horde" faction.
Belegar is the one who leads the grim brotherhood and finds the artifacts, Thorek only inspects them after Belegar brings them back.
For Nurgle, I wonder if something like the Throt vat mechanic would work. Building cycle for what you can recruit from the vat, but different buildings add different units. Nurglings are always there, but the buildings add the other units and increase the cash generated as they get higher up there.
For the economy, a flat percentage gained from research, commandments, buildings, or a combination.
The lizardmen mechanic I've been thinking of is earning points from the geomantic web, where the amount of points earned per turn depends on the size and level of the web.
These points you can then distribute for regional buffs, diplomacy with other lizardmen or buying those blessed spawnings. Depending on the effect they could cost some combination of per turn upkeep and/or one time cost.
For vampire counts let's have the vampiric corruption matter more than a morale and attrition penalty it currently is. And make blood kisses useful for something after you've unlocked all the bloodlines.
Low corruption = only low tier units available for raising no matter how big battlesite. High corruption = battlesites work as now and encroaching on enemy territory also buffs your bordering region recruitment speed and gives a diplomatic bonus. Perhaps even vampiric covens similar to undercities become available.
Blood kisses could be used for creating heroes, perhaps even somehow boosted heroes. Or as a diplomacy resource. Or sabotaging the city defences during a siege.
High elves could use some help too, especially Tyrion and Teclis since their intrigue mechanics are the plainest vanilla.
There WAS a mod that allowed the Vampire factions and Tomb Kings to get skeletal versions of quite a lot of different units (Hydras, dragons, crypt horrors (which I find pointless as a skeleton option), skin wolves, mammoths, et cetera), but I haven't heard anything about it being updated lately, and I honestly just use a mod that adds undead Norscan and Chaos infantry to the Counts roster instead.
In the meantime, I'd recommend trying out Nanu's Pirates of Sartosa mod on the grounds that it makes Aranessa Saltspite more interesting as a faction leader by giving her faction access to a roster of living pirate units and some unique admiral lords that have something akin to genuine value, one of which allows you to get zombie versions of Dread Saurians and Feral Mammoths. Haven't tested whether those units can be obtained from an alliance with her, but Aranessa's hard to make alliances with for anyone who isn't from the Vampire Coast faction anyway.
if you don’t like VC too much, I would recommend trying out the Legions of Nagash mod.
It’s incredibly fun and mixes all the undead factions very well!
As a Daemons of Chaos player, it does suck that I need mods to make my favorite faction and lord any good (also more factions need customizable lords)
The fact that even “big” RUclipsrs don’t understand the point of vassals or think they’re bad really makes me think I play this game too much. I’d start my own channel to teach you all from a platform but the world doesn’t need more RUclipsrs, so I’ll tell you here:
The entire point is that you gain financial benefits with literally no risk to yourself and without needing to maintain or build regions or supply chains. If you lose or have a settlement threatened, it can cause a huge disruption to your gameplay. If you leave it in the hands of a vassal you can OPT to help them but the investment isn’t so large that it ruins your game. They serve as a warning for enemy armies, free peons you can tell what to do, resupply points for army health, and free money/buildings. Crazy that this is confusing for people when the games been out this long.
Moreover, in all the Total War games where you are expected to be heavily surrounded by either enemies or future traitorous, back-stabbing neighbors, I have found that vassals and allies are great resources for creating effective buffer zones. For instance, in Attila, dragging the german tribes into submission is VITAL for the survival of the Western Roman Empire, since you can foresee the hun hordes and allocate forces accordingly while your allies throw everything up in order to save you some precious time. As the world has expanded a lot with the Immortal Empires campaign and now that the landscape is filled with null geopolitical order where tons of opposite factions fight each other in all directions, the role of vassals and allies is key to effectively concentrate in one particular front to obliterate any corresponding foe. Yeah, they usually behave without much logic, but scrapping the margin that they offer is still crucial and very exploitable.
From an allied recruitment perspective vassals can be better than military allies because vassals won't drag you into wars and will fight any war you want them to unless they don't like you and that means you will more likely keep hold of your outposts and recruited allied units.
Also, getting vassals helps some races/factions become stronger such as Vampire Counts - gaining vassals grants 1 blood kiss per vassal.
For the lizardmen part of the problem is 8th ed sacred spawnings. The sacred spawnings in 6ed where much more characterful
Imagine being able to recruit vanguard deployed cavalry killing Sacred Saurus of Huanchi,
Maybe skinks of Tepok with magic resistance and bound spells.
Chotec perfect vigour and fire attacks, maybe one type of unit for each old one or maybe just 5 of them.
Maybe a geomantic energy bar thar accumulates over time which can either give the buffs to edicts, but can be uses up in one big go to teleport armies or to terraform a province to a jungle like they did in Albion
I thought about my personal list after seeing the thumbnail but before watching it. And I cant believe Im saying this but its the first time I 100% agree with one of ur lists. great job 👍🏼
Given the role of the lizardmen and their attempts to execute the impossible to comprehend great plan, I'd like the Geomantic web to be something that mutates and grows over the campaign, with each game pulling 10 or so missions from a random grab-bag that each give significant buffs like... "x terrain goes from inhabitable to preferred at geomantic web strength 2 in the area." "suppress x corruption by 3 per level of geomantic web". This way the geomantic web can be an active driver
honestly people that think festus ruined Franz campaign don't get hpw to actually play franz.
cause now it's not as slow to get authorit and prestege as it was before. not you have shit to do and land to give back and an actual opponent to fight.
cause you can hold grom of with jus the fort, even on legendary kemmler is 50-50 to declare war and can be held with same fort.
khazrak dies on turn what 7 maybe 8 if you get to play karl then kill GS into festus turn 20 and you are done with festus if you wish but i recommend let him do some damage cause you will never drop below -4 anyway if you don't rush confederation. as for vlad you have to push him to let him be him get passed tabacland you are at least turn 30+ and if you still have issues wih him then you lack the skills for that difficulty and try again on a lower one. which isn't a bad thing bu you are not skilled enough for that level. but just because you think you should be able to doesn't mean you will be able to and CA should not nerf shit because of it. it's like saying i can swim so why can't i be paid to swim at the olympics...
DO heavily agree with the Geomantic web, you even missed an important part that the lizards already struggle to get enough buildings in their province. most factions can get the buildings 4+ into a 7 slot but the lizards can't. partly because of that dumb geomantic building
Hottake: Orges are worse then the horde mechanic of WoC. cause they have the same dumb mechanic with the "horde building" that doesn't even move and need additional units you need to pay upkeep for. and on top of all that their LL suck bigtime and their melee lord hero lack casulties replentishment that the magic lord does have. so even lore of fire to use with firebellies is not worth it
I hate the dwarf banner/rune system. You are limited in two ways, creation and equipping. Creation is a once and done mechanic, you get the number listed for your faction and that's it. Equipping you are only allowed 8 in a army of 20. The lords and heros they kinda work on but not for your standard units. I would love if it worked like clan eshin's mechanic where once you build a rune forge you are able to assign lords and heros of a sufficient level to make a rune that is then selected though a scrap like mechanic.
Sending the lords/heros out is limited by turns and space at the forge with the more impactful runes being avable only once the hero/lord is a high enough level.
All the vanilla lords needs more love. Like Tyrion is supposed to be the most powerful Elf there is and heir to the throne but almost all other high elf factions are better. This is just an example but you get my drift. It’s like 0 resins to play as grimgor over other greenskins.
Your idea for daniel is fantastic! Im playing a campaign right now and went down the nurgle line (boring!) it would be awesome to build different demons w the parts u acquire and use the entire roster accordingly
Daniel just shouldn't be in the game. We all know it, and we all know it's not going to happen. But at the end of the day, he'll always just be the afterbirth of the Realm of Chaos campaign.
*Vampire Counts*
*Day & Night*
_Night:_ Vampire Count units gain +5% Magic resist, Morale, Cooldown reduction, Speed & Charge.
_Dawn & Dusk:_ No modification.
_Day:_ Vampire Count units gain -5% Magic resist, Morale, Cooldown reduction, Speed & Charge.
All combats have a timer (say 3 min). When on a Vampire player's turn, combat starts at night. Any other player turn (if the vampire is attacked, or if the vampire ambushes), combat starts day. After the timer, dawn/dusk happens, and another timer is set (say 1 min). Then it shifts to day/night. Each rank of Lightning Strike increases the timer on night missions by 30 seconds. Eternal Warden reduces timer on day combat by 30 seconds. 75%+ and 100% Vampiric Corruption increases those values to +7.5% / +2.5% / -2.5% and +10% / +5% / +0%.
Corrupted Lord and Heroes (no matter which faction they belong to) gain the bonuses (if any), but not the penalties.
*Kiss*
_Recruitment:_ Whenever a non-legendary, non-immortal Lord or Hero that is killed (and that does not crumble/vanish) on the battlefield against a Vampire Count player, Assassinated by a Vampire Count player, the Lord/Hero becomes available for recruitment by that Vampire Count players at a cost of 1 Kiss (level 1-4), 2 Kisses (level 5-9), 3 kisses (level 10-14) or 4 kisses (level 15-19). It becomes undead, its school of magic, if any, is replaced with Death or Vampire, spread Vampiric Corruption and gains "Army gains "Hates [Original Owner's Faction]"".
When defeated again, on its current turn (if it is its original owner's turn), or next turn otherwise, its previous owner may recruit the fallen Hero / Lord again, but said Hero / Lord remains Undead, spread Vampiric Corruption, and its "Hates" ability is shifted to Vampire Counts. It remains "Corrupted". It can be removed like the Gift of Slaanesh.
_Corruption:_ Whenever a Legendary or Immortal Lord or Hero (from a living faction) is wounded in battle by a Vampire Count player, it becomes "Corrupted". It gains the Undead tag, spread Vampiric Corruption, and "Army gains "Hates Vampire Counts"". It can be removed like the Gift of Slaanesh.
_Puppet Mastery:_ A Vampire Count player can spend 3 Kisses to prevent an opposing Corrupted Hero from participating in combat, or 10 Kisses to force a Lord to Break Siege or Retreat. If a Corrupted Lord belongs to a Computer Player, the Vampire Count player can spend 10 Kisses and its army's defeat value in Gold to borrow it and its army.
Daniel really should be able to get warrior of chaos units and maybe even beastmen. Give the faction some quests which allows him to recruit "followers" by Killing some legendary Lords.
would like just small little tweak for Tomb Kings - second army slot from start, cause their early units are on weaker spectrum and at the same time you can't get more than 19
Wdym? With good strategy you can beat a primeval glory or mid-high tier dork elf army with just skellies and a mage plus fighter.
@@jannovy7229 I'm just tired of Manfred drowning my crap with his every other Setra Campaign. I almost always end up with puric victories against his 1.5-2 stacks and ebing true undead he regain numbers quiker. you can't even bait him to come with one army with empty lord and ambushing cetra cause i have only Setra.
@@НикитаМаркитан Then ambush just with Setra before a city. You should try playing Khatep. I chose him because his bonuses looked the sweetest, but I weren't checking the starting positions then. I was simultaneously in war against top 10 strength Cult of Pleasure and Hexoatl + the the very annoying minor DE and Skaven factions.
After I pushed thought the dinos and was able to finally get some diplomacy with bent over pirates I got immediately attacked by massive Pestilens and Blessed Dread alliances, and when I started to stabilize and gain ground, I was attacked from North by Naggarond that stopped my war with his huge mommy by confederating her and had more than 150 settlements at that point. I just stopped the campaign when it was just me and few random surviving factions with 2 settlements against Naggarond which conquered everything all the way to the bottom right corner of the map, and I was gaining ground about in the middle of the map on all fronts in ME - that was just turn 150-200, I think. I was playing on legendary/hard in WH2, so it wasn't a piece of cake either.
I would have won for sure, but it would take tens of hours of boring, annoying, cheesy absolutely monotonous conquest and I was being super disappointed and annoyed by the TK roster and gameplay already.
Skarbrand cam was Genius
I'm so happy I'm not the only one who feels the same about dwarves, bretonia and the empire
Did he call Skarbrand Skarsnik?
I want that Geomantic web idea you have, so bad. Where's the mod for that
As to the Vamp counts, maybe even a per-army energy bar that fills per raised unit, price depending on quality?
I think the Red Duke should be added as a vampire count with the peasant economy buildings and units along with some new versions of Blood Knights.
*_Demons of Chaos_* is the faction I find the most Irksome. I like the swapping of "Parts", but a lot of those parts seem redundant or lackluster in comparison with other parts... and just become a bunch of grey area that you never want to touch. Also, while parts are great, I find that not being able to equip banners or magic items makes him less fun to play.
I do like that demons of chaos can actually build up all the settlements i hate the dark citadel thing that warriors got and having to rely on vassals
They really need to make greasus walk, i hate the cart
On the topic of Vampires being able to raise zombie versions of foreign units, here are some ideas from me:
1: Zombie Dragons from any Elven faction that had a dragon in their army.
2: Zombie Giants from any army that had a giant.
3: Zombie Skaven Monsters like Brood horrors and Rat Ogres from any Skaven faction (Throt can already make his units undead so why not the vampires).
Those are some of my ideas, anyone else got some?
I think we'll need a legendary hero DLC in the future. Many factions shouldn't wait until a DLC comes out. Look at Khemri, Vampire Coast, Norsca and Ogres all of them need LH but waiting until a DLC would suck... Is easier to give us a DLC with 3-6 LH instead of LL that need a whole new start location and maybe at least a bit of a unique or reused mechanics
I feel like the empire need a bit of a buff, with festus just slap bang in the middle of the empire it is a nightmare to get on top of. Not to mention the usual beast men, Norsca, vlad, grom and others that you eventually have to deal with
Personally I feel like every Lizardmen lord should have access to the sacrifice mechanic, but Tehenhuin gets either stronger/better/cheaper sacrifices, or another tier of sacrifices. It fits the Aztec theme a lot better.
The only lizardman that has this blood sacrifice thing going for them is Tehenuin. The other lizard men don't ritualistically sacrifice their captives, they usually eat them.
For the lizardmen a good thing would be fixing the geomantic web
How did you manage to get Skarbrand and Skarsnik mixed up twice?
Ogres Slaanesh and Norsca Finally Getting Updates
I thought factions meant not races, but legendary lords like Queek without his Headtaker mechanic, Skrolk with plagues, that can't be compared to Nurgle (I know that plague lord and plague God is another level, but come on he needs something), Tretch being Tretch and Gelt being an emperor on the campaign map, but yes since chaos warriors rework there's no reason to play Daniel for his undivided roster and his economy is somehow worse than Kislev's, so if he can't trade, because he's a filthy demon like N'kari and Be'lakor, then at least let him spend his glory in any way, because he has it maxed very early in the game and has nothing to do with it when income buildings, military buildings, materials buildings, post battle loot, quests and commandments all give so much of it
Before watching any of the video, I bet you are going to mention Ogre Kingdoms! Their roster is so unique but I wish they had more engaging mechanics on campaign map to match how fun they are on the battlefield. Crushers with great weapons are my fav! Cheers
Look at contracts mechanic of three kingdoms bandits look it up that be ogre mechanic perfectly
I started playing ftom TWW2, and as soon I seen Norsca I fell in love, I immedeately bought both TWW1 and Norsca DLC, and started playing doggos.
Imagine my pain right now, as my #1 favorite faction have no updates for 7 years already.
I whole heartledly agree with that the vampires should be able to recruit enemy units (ofcourse limited ).
Imagine having an undead eagle or like you said a mammoth, (since you can get living units like the sylvanian crossbowmen and gunners as ROR).
IMAGINE UNDEAD RATS. FUCKING UNDEAD RATS . I WOULD SHIT MYSELF
I think the lizardmen are fine they just have the too many lords per square foot problem
Everyone is in lustria so after you win your first few battles you run into a friendly lord you dont want to be at war with
Kroq gar runs into tik tak to fast with teclis below you (who is friendly) so you can really only go to fight the orcs or the tomb kings
ive played bretonnia campaign right now and peasant limitation doesnt bother me at all. because i never pick them up in the first place. their economy so damn powerful so you just recruit questing knights and knights of the real and they roll over everything. then u just recruit full grail army and gg ez.
Since Vampire Counts are related to the Tomb Kings, I believe they should get some of their units with a goth/dark variant, specially the giant monsters.
The vampire count problem at the moment for me as totally them beeing boring. The change ca made making the gallow building giving so much money is good for the early game and makes the campaign much easier so much, that you only need that building. You just raise dead and build gallows....
Yeah that sounds fun....
I would definitely enjoy a mechanic you can mentioned, having undead carnosaurs, dragons, giants, great stags, mammoths, but would require ca to put in actual work... Why I don't really see it happening sadly, but it would be awesome.
For me the bloodline mechanic feels like just a better techtree atm and you could easily combine the two, for an interesting techtree, giving you a legendary hero or lord at the end of each bloodline... That would be a nice way to add in some named characters.
I would like a warriors of chaos style dlc adding in the missing bloodlines, and actual mechanics for the new legendary lords ... I am mostly here for necrarchs, but the vamps have been so forgotten, they really could use a big dlc...
Furthers the base heros could use some extra skills to make them more special and not capping out on like level 39....
I want animated Armour, undead basilics, abysal terrors, and simulacras... and give kemmler final the tomb scorpion and krell still should be a legendary hero...
Manfred Stil doesn't have a unique skilltree only 2 lores of magic yeah...
Lots of homework for ca
But please make them more interesting again... They are powerful, but boring... Make them powerful and interesting. Or even less powerful but more interesting
Oh for raise dead as it works now,... At least make it that you can only raise dead specific high tier units, if you got the building somewhere. Just something to make it nassasry to actual build some of the buildings....
Oh and atm the corruption building is just useless... You build the skaven discovereability building and are good... So we have an actual another useless building....
Please ca give the vamps the love they missed the last like 7 or maybe allready 8 years!
The problem with the Empire is that it's the same as Daniel's faction : when the Empire is united , Imperial Prestige and Influence become useless!
What the Empire needs, is a mechanic that is usable at ALL times.
Karl Franz need a "Steel , Faith and Gunpowder" type of mechanic, boosting units that are thematic to those elements that are VITAL to the Empire's lore!
My biggest issue with all the reworks is the constant power creep. This game is getting easier and easier to the point of not being fun. Don't know what CA does but it seems that most of those new mechanics benefits the player only, AI doesn't know how to use it properly.
Im suprised Tomb Kings didnt make the list, they havent been touched in like forever kinda need an update to the roster and unit stats overall
You take grimgor's aggresive A.I and make every vassal operate the same way . Grimgor is a excellant vassal , if you're going to have one .
To be fair with the community and it's efforts the Ogrehaul mod goes a pretty damn long way at making Ogres very playable. Love it to death. Past that though I ain't found a good mercenary mod so that could be improved maybe make em like the mercenary enclaves of stellaris where you could have one auxiliary camp that does its own thing an pays gold to you. Or maybe like you designated a single army as a mercenary group, other faction at war can contract thay army and depending on the war results you get som many rewards or lose relations if you army dies early. Maybe some random events to complicate thi gs.
@Colonel Damneders 1) you do know that many people who play Strategy games have fun from the balance they offer - hence the challenge that is created by the balance ?
2) Creating balance is hard, this is what people are getting paid for, making unbalanced broken shit is easy - for example you can easily go and add a mod that gives you 10 skill points per level, since you clearly your fun is just a mass of broken OP shit, I suggest you go to the mod section instead of waiting for actual CA work. There you can find added heroes that boost armies like crazy, added mechanics such as the Chorfs court to HE and with it lots of buffs and imbalance and so on, I am pretty sure you can even find Dwarves units with naplam or whatever or rats that can sends 10 nukes per second :).
Bottom line is, I appreciate your effort in creating this video, and its good people set expectations from CA, but what you mentioned as fun is basically 'cheat codes', I get while some people have fun from those but many don't. The true art in Age of Empires wasn't the addition of the laser car, but rather the balance the devs created between the diiferent unique factions that created challenge.
So while I do hope for reworks for all the factions you mentioned, I don't want to see CA goes in the direction of almost any of the suggestions you brought up.
Which old grumblers focused on the nurgle rework discussion?
Episode 7 about 27 minutes in
on top of the norsca rework could they maybe fix the fact that hunts have been broken for like years now. I love norsca as a faction but they feel so underpowered compared to other factions especially when you get locked out of the hunting mechanic.
As someone who primarily plays multiplayer campaigns, I don´t really care if campaign mechanics are op as long as their fun to play with and against.
Battle balancing on the other hand should be balanced arround multiplayer: It´s where armies are actually played to their full potential. I don´t know how balancing units arround AI often making stupid decisions would even work. You can still give them crazy campaign buffs though :D
I always thought that Daniel should be a legendary hero for Belakor and just leave the customizations and enhancement for his army as part of his kit or power up his base lords.
I would really like to see a lot of reworks. Especially orgers, norsca and vampire counts (Like your idea). And also new units for some race packs, to bring freah air for some undeads... Pirats and Mummys.
But honestly i didnt even see big reworks for the upcoming races.
The last "reworks" wasnt enough for kislev or tzech so actually still most of the race of warhammer 3 sucks. With Cathay i'm unsure, didnt play the both reworks yet and i think focusing always on harmony is boring.
Demons of Chaos needs a rework, stripping some things from daniel that really should have been a tech tree, so that our other major demon of chaos, Be'lakor, can come home.
Big names should actually be big names, and ogre camps should be able to move, even if snowly or with significant cooldown.
Norsca... need a complete rethink
Just letting Ogor camps move (even if only slowly) would immediately elevate the Ogor campaigns from poor to average for me.
Look, I just want to play the realms of chaos campaign as Be’lakor. Is that really so much to ask?
I love Bretonia best Calv but most they're mechanic just to slow em down cause they don't have supplies lanes
It's a shame that most of these have been fixed with mods - but that shouldn't be the answer
Vampire Coast imo is nr 1 race that need a rework and the fact that they dont even appear here is outrageous
I think CA is waiting until they officially add Nagash to properly rework Vampire Counts.
Boy do I have some good news 3 of these got reworked w/ TOD
I’d just be happy if my beloved vampire counts got something new, other than pre nerf ghorsts zombie walls
I have literally never heard anyone call the geomantic web "complicated" before
I love the idea of the VC rework but that means that CA would have to reskin every unit in the game to an undead version. That seems like way to much work for a rework unfortunately
all fractions is good when understand how they work lol. only who need maybe rework is demons of chaos, ogres and norska. definetly NOT bretonia, kugath or vampires.
Rather than copy Grom's mechanic more closely, I think Nurgle plagues should be more similar to Ostankya's Blessings/Curses.
How did Vampire Coast not make it in?
lizardmen are fine fuck wit get good
Instead of slaanesh I think the tomb kings deserve a bit of a refresh and rework more
Seriously, no High Elves? They did not have a single change in mechanics since launch, influence system is mildly useful at best while being crippling at worst, making you save old characters to go around having to recruit those with debilitating traits. Not to mention it's completely uninteresting.
They have no means of confederating other lords other than just waiting for the button to turn green which is either next to impossible, given how strong they usually are (Ulthuan factions) or they just get eradicated before you get to them (Imrik, Alith Anar, Teclis).
The only lord that can inhabit entire Ulthuan is Eltharion, who is actually encouraged to leave the continent - Tyrion and Alarielle whose entire point is uniting Ulthuan have several uninhabitable settlements.
Yes HEs are a strong faction with a powerful economy and very good units. That doesn't mean they are fun to play.
Slaneesh and Lizardmen made this list, but not Vampire Coast? Compared to some of these, Coast feels half baked.