Fiat 500 Timing belt & water pump replacement (same as new Ford KA)
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2022
- How to Replace the timing belt and water pump (inc tensioner) on a 2014 Fiat 500 1.2 8v Engine. Same procedure applies for the new shape Ford KA.
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Timing belt tensioner 25-31NM
Timing cover bolts = 10NM
Auxilary belt tensioner = 23NM
Crank pulley (4 outer bolts) = 23-28NM
Engine mount (to body) 54-66NM
Engine mount (to engine mount bracket) 54-66NM
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Someone directed me to your channel from mine as I have avoided this job for years. Great guide, I feel confident now to do it and save myself money each time.
Nice one , glad it helped 👍
Great guide. I am a qualified mechanic but haven't done a Fiat before, so tuned in to see what type of tensioner it had and what tools are required. Very well explained and lots of useful tips.
Thanks for your comments mate , feedback is always appreciated 👍👍
As a retired mechanic..your tutorial was excellent ..well done 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks 👍 always nice to hear positive feedback!
This is by far one of the best tutorials I've seen. I especially liked you taking a pause *before* doing something (for example, paint marks) to provide extra context. Well done!
Awesome, thank you!
Just bought a 2014 Ka. It has only done 25k miles but has been hardly used or MOTd since 2017 so a cambelt/waterpump change is probably a good idea-I have a Haynes manual but your video has emboldened me to do it! Thankyou.
Great to hear it! thanks for the comment 😃👍
Brilliant tutorial. Changed the wifes cambelt and aux belt today with the help of your video. Took a bit longer than 30 mins though 🤣 Thanks for the upload 🍻
Haha 👍👍 nice one glad to hear it
Have you ever considered training or have you ever trained an apprentice mechanic? Your methodology is excellent. Simple, clear instructions that make even the most daunting of tasks seem easy.
Magic.
Thanks for your comments! Much appreciated 😁😁 makes it all worth while! Something I’ve never looked into tbh but maybe in the future 👍👍
I don't think i would have managed the job without you. It was almost like having an expert at my shoulder walking me through it step by step. So detailed and doesn't miss anything important.
👍👍 thanks for the comment , always nice to hear positive feedback 🙌😀
@@diydaly I have a 2009 ford ka and it's needing a new camshaft sensor but I have absolutely no idea how to find it on the car ?
Expert??? Did not use timing tools assuming who did it before did it correctly. You are meant to slacken cam pulley.
Cam tools important?
Adjust tensioner to max rotate engine twice refit tools readjust tensioner to spec, that's the expert way to do it.
Thanks for the video. Done plenty of cambelts before but not on this engine so it's always worth watching someone else doing it first. I've got the full locking kit and was considering locking the camshaft as per the instructions. My assumption is that they lock the opposite site of the camshaft in case you have to change the pulley as well, but it seems such a fiddle to remove the cam cover and all the other kit connected to it, so I'm tempted to use marks as you have done on my Doblo providing, of course, whoever did it last time did it properly. It runs OK so I'm assuming so. Thanks again for taking the trouble to record the process: certainly the best video of this process I've seen!
Yeah I generally just paint mark em unless there’s an issue or the engine apart etc then you have to pin it correctly , generally if the timing was out they log a cam/crank sync fault .. sames a lot of messing about if you can just paint mark it 👍
I believe the pulley is on a taper and not keyed. Locking the camshaft and loosening the pulley allows for some adjustment (if teeth not quite meshing with the belt0 but as stated, generally unnecessary
Best explanation of how to change the belt on the whole web. Brilliant well done to you, just what I needed to know plus a couple of bits I didn't. Feel very confident to take on the job on my grandsons car now. thank you for the time.
Very welcome, thanks for the comment
Your video gave me the confidence to swap the cam belt on our KA. All went smoothly so have a coffee on me. 👍🏻🔧☕️
Arr nice one! Glad it helped mate 👍
I'm a bit late to this video but this is just what I needed! I have a 2014 Ford Ka which obviously has the same engine which I need to change the head gasket on. This goes a long way to getting me there. I'm not a mechanic but have a healthy interest in mechanics. I'm a construction site manager so I'm used to being methodical and structured. Many thanks for this! Gaz.
IVE WATCHED LOADS OF VIDEOS ON FITTING A TIMING BELT AND YOURS IS BY A COUNTRY MILE THE BEST FILMED AND THE MOST EXPLANATORY OF THEM ALL THANKYOU I WILL NOW GIVE IT A GO
👍👍 thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated
Brilliant video, explained very well. 2 timing belt kits ve changed now because of your videos.
Nice one , always nice to hear they are helping people ! Thanks Chris
What an excellent informative video with no detail missed unlike 95% of youtube videos thanks very much
Glad you enjoyed it!👍
Awesome matey, I bought my daughter a ford Ka, same engine.
Only had it four days, dealer said they changed timing belt and I'm suspecting he has done it your way. Don't know about the water pump though. Found a leak on thermostat housing so I'm going back with it
First class job and video helped loads
Great , glad it will help .. thanks for the comment 👍👍
Thank you, this is the most comprehensive guide I have come across. Your attention to details is spot on! As well as the extra handy tips too. 😊
You're very welcome! thanks for the feedback, much appreciated 👍👌😃
This was very helpful, although our 500 has air conditioning which means there is a extra tensioner the information was spot on and worked a treat, thanks for the help.
Glad it helped!
Best explained video i have watched fitting a cambelt on a 500
👍👍 thanks , comments much appreciated 😃
Excellent explanation and also the correct video positions at the crucial marking points. And also the special tightening moments. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the comment 👍
You've got a lot of patience, well done for finding the problem. Small car with big problems, but it is a FIAT.
thanks for the comment 👍
amazing video I just got my water pump leaking at 52K Miles so I need to do the whole enchilada!! Thank you mate!!
Thankyou 👍👍
Thanks Sir for your time effort and professionalism as always 🙂 that fiat engine is so SMALL !
My pleasure.. thanks for the comment! much appreciated 👌😃
Brilliant video. I’ve got a Chrysler ypsilon that I’m doing for a guy in my street.
This helped loads. Definitely will speed up my process.
Nice one , thanks for the comment .. glad it helps mate
Brilliant. Thank you for your time. I have my daughter’s 500 to do and this has helped enormously.
Glad it helped, thanks for the comment , feedback is always appreciated 👍👌😃
Having looked at other videos on this, this is the best presented and clearest on how to perform this task, hope you have great success
Glad it was helpful! Your comments much appreciated 👍🙌
Thank you for detailed explanation I managed to complete it in 2 days.
Yesterday i completed it took it for a test drive all was good… today in the morning i started it up and it was knocking.
So I did the job all over again today and found out that the tensioner had come loose(un-tensioned).
When trying to re-tension it, i held it in place with the plastic 2 pin tool whilst i did the nut up like you did and it worked. After starting the engine the tensioner guide window thing moved and it became loose again.
I repeated this process over and over. I could not tighten it more as when i tightened the nut the while thing moved and again moved out of the guide window. Really the plastic 2 pin tool provided wasnt strong enough to hold it whilst I tightened it up.
So I ended up fitting the old tensioner that seems to grip when you tighten the nut and all is good. However i need to fit a new tensioner perhaps for another day.
I can’t work out what the problem is with the one i bought in the Dayco kit. Maybe I just need a metal 2 pin tool?
Also 30nm doesn’t feel like a lot for the tensioner and I feel it would slip and slack the belt so i did it a bit more tighter.
Normally the block has a grove for the tensioner to slot in to so I really don’t know.
Any insights would be much appreciated thanks. Again great video!
Not come across any issue with them tbh , I usually fit the gates kits .. never known one to come loose before though , I always torque to 30 Nm .. I little more won’t harm anything though .. I’ve only im ever used the metal tensioning tool so can really speak for the plastic one but can’t imagine it’s up to much! 🤣.. 🤞 everything works out this time!
Brilliant tutorial, well done fella. That's the way i've always done it, but I mark the old belt too. I then line up the old belt with the new one and transfer the marks over. Probably not essential, but just habit I guess, and a further reference point to avoid things going bang :)
Thanks! Much appreciated 👍
I’m trying to understand this. Do you mark the belt in two places in line with the marks on the pulleys?
This is an excellent no-nonsense tutorial . Thankyou
👍👍 thanks 😁 feedback always appreciated
A bit better than navigating through a Haynes Manual. Brilliant job. Thank You !!!
You're welcome!
Great ‘How to video’ …. Very detailed and clear to follow 👍
Glad it was helpful! thanks for the comment 👍
Great video! Just done the job on my mrs’ 500. Thanks so much for the video, it’s better than the Haynes manual!
You're welcome! thanks for the comment 👍👍
Great video. Watched a few times before doing my daughter's belt. Made the job so Simple.
I also marked the old belt before removing and then counted the teeth and marked the new belt. Could be very easy to refit 1 tooth out.
Just as an additional note the dayco kit comes with a tool for the tensioner.
Thanks! are didn't know that! nice bit of info 👍👍 thanks
Have to tackle this later in a Ford Kak! Always good to see what's in store! Nice guide 👍
Glad it was helpful! thanks for the comment 👍👍
Great video,shows it can be done without pulling engine fully apart .
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Amazing guide! I felt like I was there with you, learning.
Glad you enjoyed it! thanks for the comment!👍
Great guide and easy to follow, only thing I did differently was used the tool to lock the crankshaft, took about 2 hour to fit, when moving the engine mount for the engine you really need a shallow 15mm socket,
👍👍 glad to hear it
Thanks so much for putting this video together 👍🏻
No probs , glad to help 👍
Well narrated sir , a video that made sense .
Thanks for the comment 👍👍
Thank you, my Fiat 500 is due a belt change , very detailed video 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Nice one , thanks for the comment
Excellent video.Very well explained.Thanks.
You are welcome! thanks for the comment, much appreciated 👍😃
It was the best how to do it video ever! Thank you so much for it!
You're welcome! thanks for the comment 👍
Good video! I just Did a replacement on my timing belt tensioner and water pump, I used the tool kit for the timing belt replacement, I put everything back together turned the engine on everything works fine, but the engine light is on, I don't know what can be
Glad it helped 👍👍 you may need to code scan it , possible sensor issue ? I’ve the timings slightly out it may log a cam / crank sync fault
@@diydaly indeed was exactly what, I just disassembled everything back and the timing was slightly out, I put back where should be and now is everything fine, thank you
Excellent presentation. I am planning to do my Dad's Panda. It looks easier than my Polo. Many thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
This tutorial was bang on!
👍 thanks , glad it will help
That’s a very detailed good video Thank you for sharing
Thanks 🙌
Nice video , got to do s distribution of se car with no tools, gonna mark the by hand like you did
Doing my daughters next week 👍🏻 perfect guide thanks very much for taking the time to make it 👍🏻👍🏻
No problem 👍 had it'll help 👌
Very good video. Helped me big time
You're welcome! thanks for the comment 👍😃
excellent, Thank You!
You are welcome!
Excellent video. Thumbs up
👍👍 thanks
Great video very helpful thanks
Glad it was helpful! 👍👍
Good job done 👍
Thanks Kev 👌👍😃
We currently need a Mechanic, you've got the job, were based in Gorton Manchester.
Haha thanks 👍 bit too far for me to travel!
So the way you done this timing belt you could be 180 degrees out cheers john
Very helpful and clear instruction video.......thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant and very helpful video.
Glad it was helpful!
Do u have to mark it if you use the cam locking tool and crank locking tool?
Not really but I always like to just as a quick reference once you’ve removed the tools
Hello, why do you use silicon for the water pump ? A gasket is in the kit ?
You should use silicone on these , they leave the factory siliconed 👍
Great video. I'm about to do this on my daughter's Fiat 500. Plus the oil sump. Ther ia a small hole in it
Good luck! 👍👍
I squeeze rad hoses to push air out.
Thank you a thousand times over
Love 500 😎
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Very good!
Thank you! Cheers!
Świetna robota. Po przekreceniu wałem sprawdzał Pan jeszcze ustawienie napinacze czy jest na znakach? Mi, znaki na napinaczu przesuneły się o jakieś 3mm. Mogę tak zostawić? Co Pan o tym sądzi?
Yeah it’s quite normal for it to move once turning the engine over
This is a VT engine then? No need to remove the cam pulley at any point?
Have you come across the P0016-76 fault code before? Camshaft/Crankshaft out of sync. Happened all of a sudden. I've seen it's possible for the vvt solenoid filter screen to clog up.
Good works thanks
Welcome 👍
Thank you for the so detailed video and info. Could you inform me please what is the torque setting for the little steel bracket after the arch liner?
Thanks , I’m not too sure tbh mate
Great video 😊, just one question did you remove the spark plugs before turning the engine over by hand ?
No left them in
Hello DIYDaily, the timing belt tensioner pulley’s locking nut is reuseable, or using a new one is necesseary?
It’s advisable to renew it but I’ve reused them in the past without any trouble
Hi really awesome video. Q my aunts Grand Punto's thermostat housing and water pump leaked and the car cut out from what I expect is the over heating as I doubt there is a fail safe for that.
No the problem is it backfiring in the manifold and some one reckons it jumped a tooth on the cambelt, could that be.
Thanks for the comment! They are not the strongest engines and if it’s heat siezed the belt could have easily jumped a tooth but chances are it may have done some more serious damage , I’d do a head gasket test first then check the timing
Great video mate. Just a question, is this basically the same proceedure on the 1.4 engine?
Hi, had a cambelt kit and water pump change done 1000 or so miles ago on Ford Ka 2013 1.2.Same engine as fiat 500. Now developed an intermittent misfire on two cyclinders 1 and 4 according to OBD codes and goes into limp mode, eml and stop start lights coming on . Turning off engine and restarting solves problem until the next time . Has had ingition pack and leads and plugs changed. Still having intermittent issues so could this be the cam belt timing is out from the replacement work? Same symptoms as if faulty crank shaft sensor but no obd codes for that so far. Most puzzled and potentially dangerous issue. Any advice appreciated...will send your vid to my mechanic too. Thanks for your vids!
very hard to say without looking tbh mate, could be various issues
Great video, thanks for posting. On a different notr, do you know if by undoing the driver's side engine mount would provide enough clearance to replace the serpentine belt tensioner?
Thanks , Yes it should do mate 👍
@@diydaly thanks!
Great video , does your cambelt sit nearer the end of the cam sprocket as just changed mine and it sit towards the end, not in the middle ? used a gates kits and water pump
it was a while ago I did this , I can't quite remember tbh
Hi, great video, only thing i was confused by was the water pump? Nothing wrong with the one already in?
Hi, thanks .. no there wasn't anything wrong with it, its just advisable to change it at the same time
Great video thanks for sharing,, on the older models that little tit at six o clock on the block was the crankshaft mark 🔧 also there was a rubber grommet that pulled out of the top of the bell housing, inside there was a pointer that lined up with a slot on the flywheel…..
Thanks mate 👍 ive not come across that before tbf, I must admit its been a long time since ive done one! ha . thought id grab the chance at filming it while I could 👍
where did you get your print documents from?
thanks lutz
Please be careful with these torque settings. Not sure about the 1.2, but I stripped the bolt holes in my 1.4 engine (aluminium) torquing them to 55Nm and had to get time-serts put in at great cost. The workshop manual says 25Nm for these bolts for the 1.4 (although 60Nm for the other right side engine mount bracket bolts, which are steel into steel as opposed to steel into alu for the ones I stripped).
i have a punto 1.4 and cant for the love of god find those values, where you got them from?
Hi mate, great vid, can I ask why change tensioner pulley too ? And do you know if this is same as the 1.2 panda 169 ? Thanks
Just good practice really , the tensioner is just a likely to fail as the belt is
Great video. But why did you not just lock the crankshaft pulley as you had to get the locking tool out anyway to line it up?
thanks 👍 .. that tool I used was just the tensioner adjusting tool mate
Hi, I am losing coolant from the system at the right side of the engine under that aluminium cube that has those two electric multi-pole connectors with the red plastic lever that holds them at place. It is not leaking from that hose that comes out from the coolant tank on the right side and goes towards the engine, but behind it somewhere - which I cannot see without removing that electric related aluminium box.
It starts to leak when I start the engine, everytime I have to fill the system up again. Can you please recommend a video for fixing it, or any page from a service manual? Thank you!
Ill see if I can find anything, I think your talking about the rheostat housing
Is this tutorial the same for the fiat grande punto 2006? 1.2
Thanks for the great video
Pretty much the same
Which sealing do you use for the waterpump? Dirko black?
Hey.. I changed fiat500 timing belt and after changing .. there is problems in engine..so how can I adjust correct timing??
You will need to remove the belt to re adjust if your timings out
When do you change the timing belt age or mileage? I read online Ford have now said 150 K miles for the cam belt change and also 60 K and age is not why you change.
I’m looking for advise a I have bought a car with only part history with 40K miles and and 8 years old.
Thanks
Thankyou very much!!
Nice video but a pity you did not show how to change the belt using the timing locking tool. 😢
👍 will do another if I use all the locking. Tools
Great guide, thanks a lot! Fiat Panda 2018 1.2 8V (169A4) is the same engine right?
I believe so mate 👍👍
Is there no need to remove the cylinder head then. Can just do the cam belt by making sure the crank is lined up?
Yeah the only way to be 100% sure is to lock the cam but generally it it’s running ok you can just mark the Pulley 👍
I am about to start this procedure on a 2012 500 1.4 and am wondering if this can be done without removing and disabling the a/c pipe directly above the timing belt cover?
Can’t quite think tbh , but Aslong as it’s not too in the way shouldn’t be a problem
@@diydaly There is a vacuum pump on my 12 fiat 500 1.4 sohc and I am thinking about your way with the paint marks. .considering marking as well the old belt* at same time as other marks as your illustrations and then carefully transferring the marks to the new belt * from old belt as another check..as I do not want to dissemble the vacuum pump if not required..nor lock it down..I do have the lock down kit* but your way makes more sense !
Great video, really informative and you have a new subscriber! - I’ve got a 2012 1.4 500C, which has only covered 57,000Km, but I believe is still on its original cam belt - Forums state 90k Km change but given the age, would you recommend a change?
Glad to hear it! Thanks , much appreciate it! Yeah I’d definetly recommend changing due to age mate 👍👍
Figured, and, based on your sound advice, will get her some new “sussies” !😂
@@johncallaghan4616 haha 👍👍
Any belt//pump/silicone brand you’d recommend? - don’t want “new sussies” getting wet!😉
@@johncallaghan4616 I always prefer to fit the gates kits if im honest. ive fitted a lot of different bands over my time and other than OE I think they are by far the best 👍 as for silicone just a reputable brand really
Having an issue with the top pulley, camshift. Ive gone through step by step but the belt wants to slide into the casing, any ideas of what could be causing this.
Must be something out of line or a bearing not right on the idler / tensioner
@@diydaly thank you
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Where are you based? My daughters needs doing..brilliant video.
Im on the east coast in Lincolnshire, im afraid Im not taking on any extra work outside my day job at the mo as im currently snowed under with some big projects! thanks
Only one coolant bleed screw ?
Yes mate
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The European alternator placement makes me wish the North American had that design. It was an absolute horror show putting a new one in
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Did you have to remove rear motor mount?
no I didnt mate 👍
@@diydaly thank you brother, you made thus easy!!
@@peteg4482 👍👍 glad to help