Choosing an Anamorphic Lens (feat: Sirui 24mm)
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2021
- Like I said, anamorphics are a really big topic and worthy of more than one video. For the moment, here's a basic video outlining some main features of anamorphic lenses and showing the differences between top of the line, vintage and budget friendly.
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I'm very impressed at how the Sirui stood up, how do you think it looked? Keen to get out and use it on some actual projects down the line maybe. See it in a use other than a basic test.
Ah, and I also made an error. The Kowa is 'Evolution' which is newer glass that replicates the Kowa Prominar Anamorphic lenses.
Hope you got something from this video and if you have any ideas of things that you want to see in a video, leave a comment below and let me know!
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Edit: I kinda misspoke about elements. That's my bad, I went off script, rambled and wasn't paying attention. Was meant to add a caption in the edit for it. Anamorphic lenses have varying elements. The anamorphic elements have a distortion on the edges to squeeze the image horizontally. Not "oval shaped elements" the inside looks "oval shaped" is what I was supposed to say.
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Biiiig thanks to my good friend, Hannah for assisting me in the shooting of this video. The real MVP!
Ooooo I got a new motorised slider and didn't notice the shake until the edit. Ah well!
but are those cylindrical elements?
Your narration speed defines that you are a no nonsense technical person. Very few cinema teachers have this wonderful ability. Otherwise this video is 20 minutes in layman's hand. Beautiful, detailing, not time wasted. Thanks a lot.
Love your line: "I don't think I am people." LOL, that is gold.
Nice vid, great info, concise and to the point, great audio (and you have a great calming voice too!) and excellent complementary broll from Heather.
Really good vid, keep it up! 👍👍🤘🤘
Thanks for an interesting video. I was surprised at the concave and convex distortion on the more expensive cinema lenses. So much so, that it seems you would really have to compose for the center. It actually reminds me of an Arsat 30mm rectilinear fish eye that I use on the Mamiya, which I really love on medium format.
obsessed with you and your knowledge flick! sooo helpful
Brilliant breakdown!!
Awesome comparison, thank you so much!
How is adapter for Sirui lens to Arri pl mount?
Well that presentation as beyond dang good and crossed over into extreme excellence. Well done. Would love to hear you explain the effects of using one of Surui new full frame 1.6 lens on a speed booster (Canon RF) to a GH6. Do you favor the 24 or 35 1.3 Surui lens on the low end? Excellent command of your knowledge.
You very good explaining stuff & in a very interesting way to keep us captivated. Thq for the video, im subbing
Great comparison, thanks.
awesome, concise!
I rarely post comments under RUclips videos, but i think you deserve it. Finally one channel with practical advice for professionals and for people who want to learn this job like a job and not just linke an hobby! Love your content! I'm binge watching it, keep it going! Sorry for my english but i'm italian! =)
Welcome to the channel! Glad you're enjoying it and thank you for watching. Your English is totally fine and you are welcome to leave comments in any language you feel comfortable with. I just pop them through Google Translate. Have a lovely weekend!
Excellent breakdown
Would like another video with those new contenders like Vazen and Atlas
Brilliant video
I bought the Sirui 35mm and was so impressed that I also ordered 24 and 50mm too. The cinematic look is amazing. Worth to tell that you need a field monitor with anamorphic desqueeze to enjoy it. At least my GH5S does not have this feature build in.
Just wondering why some people still tend to use imperial units and not metric, like written on the lens 24mm. Not 0.944 inch focal length
Thanks for such an informative video!
Did you see any significant flare differences as you stopped down on the lens?
it´s hard to believe that this kind of knowledge is shared for free here on youtube, thank you from your new south american fan hahahah
Great video
Please please please do a video about levels of Cinematographers. I feel like I'm a solid intermediate and would love to know what would push me towards seasoned pro. Love the video 👍🏾👌🏾
You know you're stuff. Just found your channel and will be watching more. "I don't think I'm people." 🤣 Love it.
Are the Sirui lenses S35 or FF image circle?
Have you tried an Ulanzi on Phone or Action Cam? From the flares on the Sirui, the Ulanzi would match the look for the crash-cam, and the same squeeze factor.
It's a shame the Sirui doesn't come in longer FFD's, but I made mounts for the Cion, so it's an option for me. :)
Designed for APSC so nah, not full frame :)
great vid.
amazing keep it up
Good vid Flick
I love the distortions of the cooke. But I am not a fan of the kowa. I thought since one year about purchasing the atlas Orion anamorphics because in my personal opinion they are a hybrid between cooke and kowa. But for most projects that I shoot (commercials and corporate) the flairs are waaaay to blue and saturated. I'd love to see some pl or even ef mount anamorphics from sirui. Even for like 3-5k a piece would be a steal in my opinion. Nice video as always. btw picked up two of the filmsticks slates and they are phenomenal, thanks for the recommendation.
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Oh Orions! I wanted to try get more lenses to look at for this video Orions would have been a good one too.
Yeah I know what you mean, sometimes flares are just way too saturated, distracting and don't suit certain projects.
Agreed with other mount options. That would be awesome!
Oh wonderful! Glad you like them ☺️ They're fantastic!
You rock !
Ayy a fellow enby in the filmmaking space, nice! A small correction to note is that the kowa evolutions are not rehoused vintage lenses but actually new lenses based on old designs, there's no 32mm kowa cine prominar anamorphic, it's a focal length unique to the new set, otherwise great video.
I prefer the Cooke Anamorphics of these said lenses, the cameras that i amniny use are the Arri Alexa LF and Mini, Now my heart is shifting to Alexa 35. In all the Anamorphics that i have used I prefer Hawk Anamorphic.
The Kowa shown in this video is not a rehousing. It is a 32mm Evolution 2X lens made by P+S Technik.
Apologies, I misspoke. Originally I was going to be using rehoused lenses and it must have stuck in my brain when the kits were changed out.
Informative as always 👍👍 Thanks Felicia! btw is that the Chinatown in Melbourne at 06:07?
Sure is! Thanks for watching ☺️
I love how you just casually placed the a6600 on top of a $20,000 tripod like it's no big deal.
You looks pretty and your voice also. Good information for beginners.
Space in the anamorphic aspect ratio is the essence!
All that fixation about oval background bokeh and blue horizontal flairs, is a
product of the "Star Bores" generation, weaned on CGI and SFX.
Imagine classical Cinemascope Westerns and true narrative films being fixated by those artifacts! They would have been considered as the aberrations which they are, and would have been painstakingly eliminated!
Thanks for the comparison and it pretty much confirmed my thoughts on the Sirui. It's lack of imperfections works against the value of the lens for me, as once something is that clean why wouldn't you just use a spherical lens?
Im not too pressed on them either. I may rent just for when the look is needed, but I don’t feel the need to purchase these.
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The Cooks just don’t really flare. I much prefer the SF version of these lenses. Anamorphic flares are not something for every project but I find I rarely want an anamorphic look without the flares. I think that’s also the biggest downside to the Master Anamorphics, that there is no version of them that exhibits the anamorphic flares. If I want a more clean look I’d rather shoot spherical anyways.
Also I don’t think anamorphics have oval elements in them. The anamorphic glass elements are most often cylindrical and the iris is like any old iris. The oval blur circles come from a mismatch between the focus of the anamorphic and the spherical elements. I think, Filmmaker IQ made a great video on that recently.
Yeah while editing I kept listening to what I was saying thinking yeah I could have worded that a lot better. You are correct.
The bits of glass aren't oval themselves but there are a mix of standard elements and anamorphic elements that squeeze the image horizontally. The glass is technically round, but with distortion on either side. This further highlights while I should never go off script, I ramble 😂
@@flickcine I think it very important that we demystify technology. So many RUclipsrs come across as educators just because they’re talking about tech but they mostly believe what marketing tells them to. There not many image makers out there that actually do the testing DPs do. And even there’re some high-end DPs who shoot 8K and large format because they don’t know better and think it’ll give them significantly better or different image. I think we need to be aware that technology is in danger of evolving to the point where we are serving it more than it’s us. I’m all about the mentality you that’s being taught by people like Steve Yedlin and Bradford Young. Who are in control of the technical variables at all time and because of that are able to produce some of the most soulful images out there.
What? You don't like flares?
I'm not super excited about flares either.
If I want it. I cheat and add it in post. 😉
Great comparison.
Thanks.
Won't be getting an anamorphic any time soon.
I don't mind getting lens flares. Just don't like it when they are over the top like with anamorphic lenses a lot of the time 😂
@@flickcine I'm such a lousy camera man so I don't get any good looking flares. 😜😂
I do prefer convex distortion
Imagine sirui bring out anamorphic for full frame...
How come that you changed your channel name? :)
It's a name I prefer to go by :)
Great video. I also don't care about lens flare :)
I like you. You're not people.
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I've recently been getting into adapting vintage projector lenses for 2x anamorphic looks. The results are really impressive, it's really easy once you get the hang of it, and I love the ability to match it to different spherical lenses to produce distinct looks.
[Unrelated, but I'm so glad I found another "they/them" cameraperson on RUclips]
I also love the very many different take up lenses you can use with different projection lenses. I have a Sankor 16D and Kowa 16S with Rapido FVD 16A. Take up lenses, carl zeiss pancolar, canon FD converted to EF, Asahi auto takumar, Helios 44-2. Such a wide selection of take up s and 2 projection lenses gives you a tonne of creative options.
@@alanvidot344 Yeah, unfortunately now my addiction to buying scopes has given way to buying taking lenses. 🤦
@@alanvidot344 How do you like the Kowa 16s, by the way? I have a Sankor 16D, a Kowa 16D, and there’s a Kowa 16H in the mail right now on its way to me.
The Kowa 16D can get much wider than the Sankor.
I have only recently just got it and waiting for a custom adapter from Rapido which I should be getting this week. I can definitely see the addiction.
@@alanvidot344 Yeah, my Kowa 16-D rig from Rapido arrived yesterday. I’m gonna wait awhile before rigging up the 16-H.
I like coke distortion
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Sirui 24mm 1.33 ir S H I T
It's hilarious that they charge $20,000 for a Kowa just because it's rehoused. Hahaha Who fuckin greenlighted that purchase? For a tenth of that you could put together basically the same thing.
For me 1.33x isn't anamorphic.
Please try harder to send out the right info this video is not good also the chart is wrong well done for trying 2x scope is the best for art and cinema not tv
That Kowa is awful. Why are those lenses so popular?
@@usetobemeonce yeah I have a Lomo anamorphic 22mm ('square' and 'fast'), 30mm and 35mm ('round' and 'fast') on the wide end of my collection and none of them show the bowel-emptying effects this Kowa has.
I just recently worked with Kowa lenses on a commercial. Considering that it has such a unique look to them, it definitely fit the style of the visual narrative of the piece. They most certainly have their place.
@@shunotsubo6962 just don't pan with the 32mm/40mm! Or have any movement in the corners! I suppose /maybe/ the effect of the radical distortion on the sides of frame is somehow less apparent on portable devices like phones where I suppose most commercials are viewed these days... or maybe it can be fixed in post... but I'm not alone in experiencing the eye-bleeding, stomach-turning, fingernails-on-the-chalkboard effects, and I can only imagine the psychedelic, mind-bending affect this lens would command on a theater big screen. ^_^
I mean, honestly? The Lomo, even with its readily-apparent barrel distortion, performs the best in the pan test all the way to the edge of frame compared with the Todd AO (which awfully smears the highlights in the BG anywhere but center frame), Cineovision and Kowa; and this is the clunky big round-front. I do not have the square-front Lomo 35mm in my collection (yet) but I hear it has less barrel distortion... not sure about this 'panning' distortion though:
Todd AO:
ruclips.net/video/cof6YGDaV9g/видео.html
Cineovision:
ruclips.net/video/lwXwJDY9cX8/видео.html
Kowa:
ruclips.net/video/kwLWwv-uoG0/видео.html
Lomo:
ruclips.net/video/Yi7Prkt6iRo/видео.html
They/Them ??? LOL!!!
could you slow down the speach. terrible !!!!!