Using the Sirui 24mm f/2.8 1.33x anamorphic lens on Micro Four Thirds cameras
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- A look at the aspect ratio options available to Micro Four Thirds users when shooting with the 1.33x anamorphic effect of the Sirui 24mm lens.
Shot with Lumix S1H, GH5, GH5S and G9
Tripods by Sirui, Three Legged Thing and Manfrotto
The cage with the wooden handle is the Manfrotto Medium Cage that fits the Lumix S and GH cameras
Lights: Brightcast Bi-Color Flex Light
Gimbal shots on the Gudsen Moza Air 2
Audio via Rode NTG4+
Links:
Sirui tripod:
www.mtfservices.com/sirui-sh-...
Three Legged Thing Tripod:
www.3leggedthing.com/store/le...
Manfrotto Tripod:
www.manfrotto.com/uk-en/mdeve...
Manfrotto Head:
www.manfrotto.com/uk-en/nitro...
Manfrotto Cage:
www.manfrotto.com/uk-en/camer...
Gudsen Moza Air 2:
www.gudsen.com/moza-air-2
Brightcast:
www.mtfservices.com/brightcas...
Rode:
en.rode.com/microphones/ntg4
thank you for your insightful review , with no music or stupid gimmicks ;-)
Glad you liked it 😁
This is by far! The best Review I've Seen of this Lens, some Personal thoughts, some really good techical thoughts, you Nailed it sir
Thanks very much - glad you enjoyed it.
These Sirui lenses have an uneven squeeze being 1.25x at close focus and only 1.33x at infinity. So it’s probably best to shoot DCI to not loose information on the top and bottom for 2.39:1.
And people who say 1.33x isn’t anamorphic don’t know what they’re talking about, the Ultra Panavision 70 lenses are 1.25x and they’re some of the most gorgeous lenses ever designed.
Also The pocket 6K is EF mount.
Yes, I've noted that and am doing some tests to measure where the transition takes place. And thanks re the Pocket 6K - I should have know that! :-)
I remember back in the day, shooting 2.66:1 Anamorphic with Super 8 film and anamorphic projection lenses.
Nice review.
Thank you, Damien, that's one interesting lens!
Glad you like it Glynis. It is a fun lens, and one that gives us lots of options.
Awesome review! Very informative
Thanks Shaun. Glad you found it useful.
Excellent test, Damien. Thanks for do it earlier. Best regards. NANO.
Thanks a lot. I'm glad you found it useful.
Thank you. Nice to see a mature user with their experience on this. Getting fed up with those bubble gum kid reviews with zero experience in working movie making and with almost as many edits in their reviews as they have spots on their faces!
lol - this made me laugh! Thanks very much - that's appreciated.
A great video about a great lens
Thanks :-)
I've ordered the 24 and 50 to go with my 35 and can't wait to get my hands on the set and see what magic I can make with these. Great video Damien!
Thanks Matt. Glad you enjoyed it, and I hope you like the lenses. I think they make a great set. Which camera will you use them on?
@@DamienDemolder - I have the GH5 and the BMPCC 4k - gonna be using it mainly on the BMPCC. Got them all specifically for some short films I have in mind.
@@MattFaris Excellent. I look forward to seeing what you do.
Damien Brilliant huge thanks for this....it is true hands on info......I am genuinely struggling between buying the 24mm and 35mm....aware of the differences.....leaning toward the 24mm on a panasonic gh5s .....as far as i know the bokeh balls are not so pronounced on the 24mm , the anamorphic lines thinner etc....still i think i want to shoot as wide as poss.......wondering how this will look with the metabones speedbooster attached as well.....thanks for you super review......great to see real life hands on ratios and footage thanks.
Just bought one and looking forward to using it. I have a G9 and I am thinking of trying the 6k start stop photo mode with this lens. At 4:3 aspect ratio, the desqueezed footage should be 16:9. At 3x2, it should be 2:1. Thanks for your insights.
Well done Damo xx
Thank you Vincent :-) I hope you enjoyed it.
Well said. Thank you!
Thanks Michael. Glad you liked it.
I just got mine for MFT, can't wait to try it out. Thanks
I hope you enjoy it Steve. Which body will you be using it on?
@@DamienDemolder g9, so I need to de-squeeze with my monitor.
@@steveschnetzler5471 Ah, excellent. It's great for stills too, so don't forget to try High Resolution mode :-)
So expect about 32mm equivalent focal length if not shooting 16:9?
Very informative , without the fluff, thanks a lot,,,,,if you could only choose one,,,50, 35, 24mm which would you choose?
Glad you liked it. I love a standard lens on whichever format I'm shooting, so if I had to pick one from this range it would be the 35mm.
I need a ring for follow focus. What diameter should i buy for this lens?
The diameter of the focus ring is about 65mm.
Apologies if this is a silly question but the x2 crop factor still applies right? I.e. this gives 48mm full frame focal length on MFT?
Hi - not a silly question at all. Yes, the 2x crop factor does still apply. So 24mm becomes 48mm, but with the 1.33x anamorphic effect with horizontal angle of view will look like that from a 36mm lens.
Hi
How you got the image without black bars!!
Make the time line resolution the same as the stretched footage.
Very informative clip. I use both Lumix and Olympus M4/3rds cameras. You make a good point about the use of M4/3rds with Anamorphic both for video and photos. Just ordered the 24mm lens and looking at a follow focus system either for my gimbal or more likely changing to Zhiyun who have the focus motor. Interesting times for M4/3rds. A lot lighter to carry around than any other system.
Thanks -- I'm really glad you found it useful :-)
Few comments, the exact desqueeze is not 1.33 but would be 1.333 meaning that in video you will have for UHD 3840x1.333 : 5120x2160 (It is actually 1.33333333....). Second, you will have to be very careful with Sirui as their lenses are not fully M43 compatible and in my case my 24, 35 and 50mm will not be able to focus above 10m (infinity focus is impossible) on my BMPCC4K without dismounting the lens and removing the shims they put it in (I tested in on my 50mm). It work however correctly with my GH5 and GH5s. But it seems that Sirui were a bit on the rush and did not really checked everything.
I'm not sure anyone is going to type 1.3 recurring into the calculator to find the exact pixel measurements :-) so 1.33x will have to do for now. It is close enough. I've found this lens is sharper close-up than for distant subjects but not that it won't focus at infinity. I shall do some more checks on that though. Thanks for your comments.
@@DamienDemolder Granted, but if you do not add at least a 3rd 3 you will missing some pixel when you edit in 5120 or like many people out there will create a 5107 large screen that some NLE (Resolve) will not support correctly at export. So when doing something better do it right, or not doing it at all ;-)
It will infinity focus in GH5 and GH5s, not on some other M43 cameras such as the BMPCC4K. I am actually trying to have this fix with Sirui now.
@@GayBoucheryGonzague any luck on that fix? Im thinking of picking up the 24mm for my bmpcc4k
@@TurboMage I gave up a long time ago, and to be honest, the 24mm was quite soft on both the BMPCC4K and GH5. Only their 50mm was sharp enough to my liking.
What exactly does the "anamorphic mode" do, when you still need an external monitor for de-squeezing?
It allows you to record using a 4:3 aspect ratio - the whole of the sensor - instead of the usual 16:9 that you get in movie mode. You won't need an external monitor to desqueese as Lumix cameras have a desqueese display mode too. You just match it to the lens.
@@DamienDemolder Thank you very much!
Great video! I'm new to anamorphic. Just got the Sirui 24mm and would like to know that settings to you use on the GH5. I find that using the 4:3 anamorphic mode the 1.33 desqueeze, disqueezes the image way too much. It looks good when turning off the anamorphic mode.
Yes, the GH5 only has one desqueeze setting when you use Anamorphic Mode which is for 2x lenses. It gives you an idea of composition though, while not really being ideal. When you shoot in regular 16:9 mode though and switch on the desequeeze preview you get a 1.33x desqueeze. The newer S cameras offer 5 desqueeze preview options, so hopefully that will come to GH models via firmware at some stage.
@@DamienDemolder Thank you. One last followup question. Though the GH5 desqueeze does not provide a correct aspect ratio for previewing in anamorphic mode, does it output correctly in anamorphic for editing?
@@newtonfall1 Yes, the preview is just a preview - it doesn't alter the aspect ratio of the footage recorded. So, if you shoot in Anamorphic Mode it will output 4:3 but if you record in the regular video modes you'll get 16:9. Both then need to be desqueezed in software. Anamorphic 4:3 footage desqeezes to 16:9, and 16:9 footage desqueezes to 1.35:1.
I never did quite see the appeal of wide anamorphic lens. 50mm+ makes sense and you get a 'wider zoom'. But a wider wide? Am I missing something?
They are very popular Chris. People like that you can include lots of background while keeping the subject large in the frame.
@@DamienDemolder Don't get me wrong, the right tool for the right job is a thing. But I think its all popular because its all popular. The popularity of it is driving the market, not the need for the tool itself when otherwise, other tools could do the job. Remember, Story is King. But I guess Herd Mentality can overthrow any King...
Hello. please tell me if it will work for red komodo?
It will work, but it won't be ideal. These aren't designed for a full frame sensor
@@DamienDemolderThank you very much for your reply. Red komodo has a Super 35 sensor, not full frame. In that case everything should work without vignetting?
Apologies - it does! Yes, then the lens will cover the sensor no problem.
@DamienDemolder thank you very much 🎉