I really enjoyed this conversation. Have been watching both of you on souls games forever. Really do appreciate the content that you guys create. Seems like very good dudes too. You guys need to slap some sense into epicnamebro. Guy is pure negative anymore. Can’t wait to finish the walkthru videos
An elden ring pod would be sweet. Talk invasions, new metas new strats, speed running, Easter eggs, lore etc. A organized pod like this would be great for the mass amount of information
I have to agree, the catacombs under Leyndell is awesome. It took me quite a while to figure out what was going on. It gave me vibes of the last castle in Super Mario Bros. where you had to go down different pipes or down different hallways to progress through the castle. Such a cool idea to see in a modern game.
The game is amazing dude, my first souls game, this game feels so good to play, everytime someone share a pic of a landscape, I know exactly where it is in the map even without minimap, it's insane, I hope monster hunter games one day can make a world like this
The are the two guys responsible for me falling in love with this series, with DS2 no less. I don't watch anyone else for Souls content but I make sure to watch both of their blind runs whenever a new From game or a Sou!s type game comes out. Thank you both.
I cant believe how much cowboy has changed over the years. From drunkthroughs to a chilled life. Well apart from the 24 hour recording sessions he has been doing lol.
I feel like even if you're walkthroughs or let's plays don't do well initially, they have a LOT of longevity. Those videos should keep gaining views for years.
They're talking about the algorithm. It's worthless to upload more than a certain number of videos in a day because it won't be shared with new viewers or returning subscribers.
I am 100% behind cowboy on the quest design. It may have worked in more linear games, but for an open world game a Morrowind style journal to keep tabs on previous conversations is a must have. Finding NPC locations to progress quests is also way too convoluted. Getting more clues as to where they are going to be (like Blaidd's actual location when he says he'll meet you at the impact crater and he's not there) would really help for this.
The camera has actually been the best for me compared to most games. I noticed that "Camera Auto Wall Recovery" was On by default and I think that helped a lot. Normal stuff with enemies jumping around and not locking on to the right target, but otherwise no issues on PS5.
I have issues with the camera but I don't see how someone can say it's worse than any Souls game. I think it's better, even though it still has issues. It's always been a problem but it is less so, now
@@iHaveTheDocuments This. I think using the tracking for any of the big dragon especially if you focus on the head is a bad idea. the camera just goes crazy
Fighting cowboy DS3 guides are the reason I stuck with the game as a first time souls player in general. After his guide on my first play through I ran ds3 back so many times and became a souls fan since. You’re the man cowboy.
I was just waiting for you to say welcome back to another episode of elden ring, this was a great listen, fightingCowboy made few good pointers also. Much respect to you both
I love great shields. 8 used them all through NG as my strength build and in NG+ I picked up the fingerprint shield and the ruins greatsword and had a wonderful time. Plus with the right build you can make blocking with the fingerprint shield consume no stamina.
I have the exact opposite problem from ruri. I found the camera would never stop swapping mid fight. I could be in a boss fight and multiple times my camera would be like oh you wanted to lock onto this deer 100 metres in the back?
Yes, please do. If you read the option description its a little deceptive, as it makes you think it swaps on target death, but it applies to anytime your current target moves out of range, too quickly for the camera, or the specific spot where the lockon dot is attached to moves out of bounds will cause a target swap.
17:10 THIS! Yes, I had the exact same thought. The game's camera is great for exploration and dungeon crawling, but for big boss fights it would make sense to zoom out, pretty much as much as technically possible without the performance tanking. And yes, finally someone brings up OG God Of War, which already had this nailed and then they changed it with the new games, making it less unique and just like most other games when it wasn't broken to begin with. Great to see somebody else share the sentiment.
Playing on Series x is amazing. No glitches or crashes after 110 hrs except for the day 1 issues with friends joining. Since then, flawless and looks amazing
Boa noite rurikhan, seu objetivo de converter pessoas pros souls foi alcançado cmg, eu comecei a assistir o playthrough e parei por volta do episódio 15 para não tomar mais spoilers e decidi comprar. Excelente decisão, ainda não terminei, mas imagino q vai entrar no meu top3 jogos. Continue com o bom trabalho. P.s.: eu não sou criador de conteúdo, mas o que ouço de uns caras grandes aqui no Brasil é que é melhor criar canais diferentes pra vídeos diferentes. Talvez ter um canal separado para playthrough, um para os vídeos curtos e um para os podcasts faça com que o algoritmo não te foda tanto.
One point I agree with early in this video is switching targets while locked on. It doesn't work half the time. And the camera will rotate my pov to a point where lock on disappears after killing an enemy, when there are other enemies on screen. Also, if a target gets hit and falls down while locked on (like the bat beings that hang upside down), when they hit the ground, the lock on disappears on that target. So, it has to be re-engaged.
Love it when u both come together.. You both are like the perfect pair. And 8 been watching all ur posts and cowboys but prefer urs as its more homegrown feels natural maybe its because he made so many I started to lose track and whats he doing and where in the game. I feel we are both same place and I've spent 9ver 150hrs easy and still just entering haigtree..and not done some of the end game bosses. Anyway I enjoy both of u and im sycribed to just the base free value but will honor u with a paid subscription when payday comes. Tip of the hat to Rurikon stay safe stay humble
I think that the laberynth part was the most funny and crazy thing that happened, these designers made the things gooood. I render like 5 mins of video tops and I already hate it, so I cant imagine HOURS of editing good lord. Love the dad talk at the end ♥
Just discovered your channel, and a big fan of Cowboy. Thanks for doing this guys! You guys opened with the performance issues. I don't know how I lucked into this situation, but for whatever reason, the game has NEVER crashed on me. Not a single time. Nor have I experienced frame drops unless I had something dumb running in the background at the same time (like After Effects or Blender). I'm on a beefy i9 10-core intel rig, and the game (and OS) is installed on a Samsung NVMe drive - BUT, because of the video card chaos, I'm still running an old 1080 GeForce (in 2k resolution) card. I have no idea how that worked out in my favor, but on this older card, the game was absolute butter. I was floored at how well it ran. I'd be very curious to know if players on older video card hardware are also having better performance. That sounds crazy, but I think it actually helps.
Dung Eater is actually a very interesting character. He's kind of a Punisher-like character but a little bit more fucked up in the head... but still, he's not just "chaotic evil" for no reason. Also, what you guys said about one offs and Miyazaki doing different stuff. I would advise people to keep their hopes for another open world "FromSouls" in check. I really believe there's a good chance we'll still get the more contained Souls experience. Like, I don't think "Bloodborne 2" (if it ever happens) will be an open world game like Elden Ring. To me ER really is their magnum opus but I can't lie and say it didn't felt like a marathon at the end. I was loving it but at the same time I could feel myself mentally tired from the boss gauntlet that is the game. Don't get me wrong, it's a 10/10 for me and I will replay it immediately (to me Souls games are always better the more knowledge you have), I'm just saying there is still a place for a more focused, 60 hour experience "metroidvania-esque" Souls games like Bloodborne or DS3. At the end of the day, I can't pick between Elden Ring and Bloodborne for my favorite game of all time. And that says a lot about Bloodborne. I think ER is overall the better game but the gameplay and themes of Bloodborne is just.. perfect.
Probably there will be a lot of refinement of the open world mechanics in the DLC over the course of a few years, and then in another half-decade or more a spiritual successor will arrive.
I doubt they would go back to more confined RPG's, they set a new standard for the gaming industry. This is the game Dark Souls wanted to be but they didn't the experience or budget yet.
@@20eyesmisfit if ER is the game they always wanted to make they stumbled upon Dark Souls by sheer luck. I wouldn't say ER is a straight up Improvement or evolution, I would say it borrowed from past Souls games and made an open World around it. It's something else, that learned and improved on lessons learned from previous games. That said, as much as I love the "Legacy Dungeons" in ER, they're no Yharnam, Undead Burg or Anor Londo to name a few. They feel more like smaller (but still amazing) areas like Cainhurst, Painted World of Ariamis. At the end of the day all I'm saying is that Elden Ring's design is amazing in it's own way but it doesnt replace older titles, IMO of course.
I'm about to finish my second playthrough on Elden ring. The game is absolutely fantastic but my all-time favorite game is still sekiro. No video game developer has ever done sword combat that good. Ghost of tsushima was a pretty good game as well as far as a sword combat but sekiro is on another level. I don't believe there will ever be a better game than sekiro. I just want more combat like that. Do away with the stamina bars that limit the player
1000000000%. Amen to everything you just said. Sekiro isn’t my favorite story-wise and world-wise and art-wise and character-wise.... but combat gameplay-wise, it’s the best game ever.
2 great creators representatives of both monster hunter and souls. I first found cowboy back with Bloodborne and since then have played every souls except demon souls and rurikan back with monster hunter world. Keep doing the great work. Can't wait for the monster hunter rise expansion!
Verteran Cowboy fan here, new to Ruri but I can identify with him on the camera angle struggle 100%. It drives me nuts. I think Cowboy is right though. Its a part of the game and should be left alone. I think Ruri, like me at times, can take what's challenging and confuse it with "This needs to be fixed". But i get it, for sure.
The parts of Elden Ring I hated the most where the acrophobia inducing ledge balancing sections. Gelmir Hero's Tomb, the Caelid Tower, the Carian Study Hall. The pit down to the three fingers werent so bad for me for 3 reasons: 1, You dont really have to fight so if I died I wouldnt need to reapply a rune arc. 2, I go there after ive spent most of my runes so it doesnt matter if I lose my small change. 3, You're supposed to be falling down, wich doesnt feel as bad as trying to not fall down. It wouldve been a lot worse for me if you had to climb all the way up instead pf dropping down.
Lmao! 🤣 FightinCowboy's such a character lol so hilarious I remember ppl being legitimately upset also that he obliterated Malenia on his first try lol
@@Spectacular_Insanity yea we know he’s good, but that attempt had no skill in it. It’s just pretty disappointing seeing him cheese the fuck out of her.
@@zezqi_ You're just salty. Figuring out the most efficient way to fight a boss is part of being skilled. It's much more disappointing watching someone fight a boss 50 times and die because they keep trying the same tactic that isn't working.
I played Elden Ring on PS5, so regarding the swapping of targets (once locked on) I had the same issues in trying to snap to different enemies. It is not a controller problem as FightinCowboy has mentioned, but a game design flaw.
Did ruri just mention etrian odyssey!!!!!???? DID RURI JUST MENTION MY SECOND FAVORITE GAME SERIES OF ALL TIME!!! sweet, good to hear more people know about them. Last I heard there was another game in the works. Last they mentioned it was back in November I think. For those wondering MH is #1 and souls is #3.
Just because u used a summons doesn’t make it automatically easier. There’s a lot of factors the summons level whether u buffed which talismans which ashes and armour. U can use summons and have a harder time than someone fighting solo who uses oped weapons buffs etc
I agreed with you for about 100 hours. Then i got bored as fuck, realized the open world is as horseshit as every other open world, and the pvp is utter garbage
@@yoloparrot42 Fair enough, I feel the late game stuff doesn't have quite the same amount of polish. I'm not interested in the pvp so I can't say. Still, a good 100 hours is pretty welcome these days. I'll probably take a break after I finish it but definitely play it for a while.
@@yoloparrot42 far from perfect, but amazingly fun; I suggest you give it more of a shot, because while I understand the initial response to your first duel being double seppuku cross nagitanas followed by your first invasion being a threeway magic gank, will a bit of patience you find out there’s a lottt of people who just want to have fun and do their own thing with their unique builds, the possibilities start to open up and become so much fun
The camera in Elden Ring was actually improved though. It now goes through pillars and other floating geometry that it would have clipped against in previous games.
I have three builds and characters going. over 200hrs in and only one character is just getting to the giant lands. The game is absolutely incredible and now I am really wanting to start a 4th character as a dex dagger build.
i have 150 hrs in elden ring . beat it . i have 5800x and 3070. played at 1440p at maximum settings at 60 fps constant . the only frame dip i got was at first tree sentinal and the bonfire to the first troll when he jumps from above before margit . apart from that game ran smooth till the end and only one crash for me in those 150 hours . i think some game engine doesn't respond well when you are doing fifty things at once , recording while playing etc or even at 4k . people have 20 different devices connected to their cpus to make matter worse . acg complain about bugs a lot while he has 50 usb ports with other devices connected. its not the games fault all the time when people complain that they have 3080 and game is not working well etc . yeah some games are buggy when they release like arkham knight , unity , witcher 3 but it's not at that huge amount that people complain about
Envoy Longhorn is probably my favorite weapon in the game. Love hearing that cowboy is enjoying it. That weapon eats bosses especially death birds and dragons
Thanks for this guys, I have had no running problems so far with the game on pc's. I have a new Alderlake i5 12600k with a 3070Ti card running at 1440 with dsr enabled and the game looks fantastic, no problems. I have my old rig still running in my loft room with a i7 4790 and a GTX 1070 card and that is running at 1080 and that runs the game good too. I am using keyboard and mouse though on the game not a controller, I found some good settings on the net to use, still getting used to the setup yet though but getting better. I stopped watching your video when you started talking about spoilers, maybe later.
I am 100 percent on board with the taking health away if your message is disparaged. That's an awesome idea. If it heals the person who wrote the message, there's no reason to respond
About 51 minutes in, you're taking about quest trackers, and something like the morrowind quest journal would work great here. It kept track of things, but wasn't literally a giant arrow pointing you in the right direction.
The teleported chest dungeon, there’s actually three separate instances but one is shorter and has no loot. I know because I meticulously marked every single instance with rainbow stones and wrote down which colors were where, and tested every single chest in the whole place.
I started running longhorn bubble with the mask and it increases bubble skills and it's insane how much damage you can do to big enemies. Started using it about 2 weeks ago
Gotta agree with Cowboy here. I don't think the camera is that bad. I think this is more or less a user issue and personal taste. Sorry but the camera really isn't that big of a deal.
The problem with the camera is that it automatically forces itself back to centered view, making manual camera control like you can do in monster hunter nearly impossible. And the target cam is complete garbage, like ruri said, it doesnt properly switch targets. Was playing wity a heavy thrusting sword and it was such a huge pain. Of course depending on the weapon, this thing might be no issue at all.
Setting the game on high performance worked like a charm. I’m on a fairly average acer nitro laptop but only had maybe 2 crashes. But then I know nothing about PCs.
New to all this to be honest, however...I found Elden Ring (never played any of the others) and loved it but was terrible at it not knowing wtf I was doing or where I was going...so frustrated I found and followed FC's walkthroughs...this is the best game I've ever played. So, just a quick thanks to FC for his content.
I love to hear discussion about this game. I've been a mediocre gamer since ultima online in 1997.. I like to explore and play with fun builds. Never great at pvp or serious raids... Elden ring is the most amazing game I've ever seen. It's utterly amazing, mysterious and occasionally frustrating.. I love it!
Performance on 5600X, RTX 3070: no issues at all in 250hrs. Running reshade and a mod for increased fov and unlim frames too. Camera is abysmal (for every Souls/console game in general) --> thus using fov mod, otherwise I simply cannot play. Always playing on MnK btw.
Ran like ass on my 2080 Ti and 9900K build with 32GB DDR4 3333MHz CL14 ram, but on my Series X its almost flawless with only minor frame drops to high 40's low 50's... and not a single crash in 130 hours.
@fightincowboy helped me become a better Nioh and Elden Ring player. Dark Souls and Seikiro were not my type of games because they were hard to me. This guy simplified Elden Ring and Nioh 2 for me and now I am just good at them. Bring on the next Souls or Nioh game
I think Cowboy is mistaking designed challenge with something that shouldn't be a struggle. The camera is pretty awful in this game, especially for large enemies and your ability to react to them being hindered by not being able to see them because they're too large to fit into view. It's odd though, because they fixed that issue somewhat during the Ludwig fight by actually zooming out the camera during his encounter. So they've already made exceptions like this before and if this gaming is going to have massive, epic bosses like the Fire Giant, they need to design their camera around that because use being hit by something because the boss' scale just doesn't allow us to see the telegraphs isn't a challenge, it's just a massive annoyance. There's nothing for the player to do in order to fix that. Cowboy and Rurikhan both get slammed for using the "OP tactics" XD Peeve has the same issue when his first PvP build was oriented around the Moonveil, because at the time he was using it, not EVERYONE was using it XD People need to get over this Summons thing. There's an entire upgrade system oriented around the summons, clearly they're intended to be used and a lot of the game is designed around them being used. They're not some cheat code or something, they're a feature of the game. Get over it. Also, Mimic Tear is not only good for being pretty powerful (even after the nerf), but also just being very complex and interesting. It is your build, your entire setup. That means that it even has your talismans and you can put an aggro talisman on, summon Mimic Tear, take the talisman off but Mimic Tear will still have it and draw aggro more effectively. That level of detail makes it easily the most interesting summon as well as one of the most powerful. Okay, so here's an interesting bit for Cowboy... I've never played this game online, only offline. That grace at the magma wyrm, sometimes it and other grace sites appear and you can't interact with them for some reason. I'm not sure if that was recently patched or not, but there was a span where I couldn't activate those and no messages were present because I was offline. So that might have been just a bug he experienced too. "You get your medium roll, stat requirements and then everything else in Vigor" Yeah, that's very much how this game works XD It was how I was able to make my Level 100, use almost anything in my inventory build. It was all about meeting the broadest range of base stat requirements with just switching talismans and the occasional helmet to wield almost anything I got in the game. Upgrades are where your damage really comes from in a lot of instances, and until that weapon can A or S scale your favored stat, best just keep upgrading it and not make the heavy investment yet XD
From everything I've seen/experienced (playing on PS5, watching content creators on PC) my takeaway is that the performance on PS5 generally speaking is better (fewer frame drops, less stuttering, etc.) but the graphics are much better on an optimized PC (albeit with the occasional drawback of those frame issues).
Good looking out Rurikhan with the spoilers disclaimer. Real life delayed playing the game, just getting to these parts now. I am actually a subscriber of FCB but he rarely does a spoiler disclaimer.
I made a great spear and greatshield build, and I love people that don't know shield bash also blocks. It's especially good against katana people. I use the Spiked Palisade. It looks great smacking into people.
The hot tip regarding playing the PS4 version on PS5 is totally true. That’s how I’ve been playing. It’s ridiculous that I felt the need to do so though. When you look at Forbidden West on PS5 it’s pretty obvious Elden Ring is leaving A LOT of power unused on the PS5, and it’s pretty annoying.
''If you use summons, did you really beat the boss?''. As a filthy summoner, I must admit the answer is; no. I was standing far away spamming Comet Azur while mimic was tanking.
Was a blast discussing this all. We'll have to do it again sometime.
A 3rd fleet podcast with you ruri and gaijin would be awesome!
I really enjoyed this conversation. Have been watching both of you on souls games forever. Really do appreciate the content that you guys create. Seems like very good dudes too.
You guys need to slap some sense into epicnamebro. Guy is pure negative anymore.
Can’t wait to finish the walkthru videos
well , after watching this i think its required that i challenge you to make a pot thrower build
An elden ring pod would be sweet. Talk invasions, new metas new strats, speed running, Easter eggs, lore etc. A organized pod like this would be great for the mass amount of information
400 hours big boy numbers right there 💪
I have to agree, the catacombs under Leyndell is awesome. It took me quite a while to figure out what was going on. It gave me vibes of the last castle in Super Mario Bros. where you had to go down different pipes or down different hallways to progress through the castle. Such a cool idea to see in a modern game.
The pipes area is a freaking nightmare. I am never going back there again in NG+
@@genshinsage I used the rainbow stones to track progress.
That area gave me blight town darks souls 1 vibes. I loved and hated it
Thanks for keeping the Elden Ring discussions going! I just can't get enough, man. Of the game AND the coverage.
This is a fun discussion to watch. I’m 200 hours into the game
The game is amazing dude, my first souls game, this game feels so good to play, everytime someone share a pic of a landscape, I know exactly where it is in the map even without minimap, it's insane, I hope monster hunter games one day can make a world like this
I feel your pain guys! I have twin 6 month old sons. It makes playing Elden Ring rather difficult. So props to you both for doing what you do 👍👍
Well, it's also literally their jobs. You would have more time with Elden Ring if you got paid for doing so.
Should have put a johnny on you doughnut
The are the two guys responsible for me falling in love with this series, with DS2 no less. I don't watch anyone else for Souls content but I make sure to watch both of their blind runs whenever a new From game or a Sou!s type game comes out.
Thank you both.
I cant believe how much cowboy has changed over the years. From drunkthroughs to a chilled life. Well apart from the 24 hour recording sessions he has been doing lol.
Children do that to good people.
@@Lakefront_Khan They help you realise that sleep is optional 😂
He has a baby. he is a Daddy. What u expect?
@@asishb thats why i said chilled life duh
@@technoviking2415 TECHNO!! 🤪
Thank you both for introducing me to the souls series so many years ago , look at were we are now !!!
Love Cowboy! Couldn’t imagine the Souls genre without him.
One of the best YT voices and great, to the point guides. Love the guy, no homo.
I feel like even if you're walkthroughs or let's plays don't do well initially, they have a LOT of longevity. Those videos should keep gaining views for years.
Exactly. I still watch old Dark Souls play throughs and i recently watched a play through of the first Horizon Zero Dawn before 2 came out.
They're talking about the algorithm. It's worthless to upload more than a certain number of videos in a day because it won't be shared with new viewers or returning subscribers.
Cowboys video are the best! They are my bibles of Elden Ring
@@devv197 same. Never was into souls until elden ring and now fighting cowboy runs my life
I am 100% behind cowboy on the quest design. It may have worked in more linear games, but for an open world game a Morrowind style journal to keep tabs on previous conversations is a must have. Finding NPC locations to progress quests is also way too convoluted. Getting more clues as to where they are going to be (like Blaidd's actual location when he says he'll meet you at the impact crater and he's not there) would really help for this.
Yes. Honestly they should have never gone open world to begin with tho
Yeah, it didn’t need to be super detailed. Just some basic quest notes would’ve been nice.
@@yoloparrot42 I disagree. I love the open world. I just wish they had cut out the repeat bosses, even if it made the game smaller.
Write on your own paper then
@@andrewbowen2837 what the fuck what are we playing Dungeons and Dragons? Why don’t you go play that if you like writing on paper so much?
These 2 are the reason i fell in love with games like Souls and Monster Hunter. Had an absolute blast watching this ❤️️❤️️
I hate how long it's taken me to find this cast. Thank you guys x
The camera has actually been the best for me compared to most games. I noticed that "Camera Auto Wall Recovery" was On by default and I think that helped a lot. Normal stuff with enemies jumping around and not locking on to the right target, but otherwise no issues on PS5.
I have issues with the camera but I don't see how someone can say it's worse than any Souls game. I think it's better, even though it still has issues. It's always been a problem but it is less so, now
I also had no issues at all with the camera, go figure
The only issue I have is fighting the biggest bosses and the camera is trying to track it. Some bosses are simply too big.
@@iHaveTheDocuments This. I think using the tracking for any of the big dragon especially if you focus on the head is a bad idea. the camera just goes crazy
Fighting cowboy DS3 guides are the reason I stuck with the game as a first time souls player in general. After his guide on my first play through I ran ds3 back so many times and became a souls fan since. You’re the man cowboy.
I’m on the same boat as u ds3 and then sekiro blood Bourne then demon then ds1 and then elden
I was just waiting for you to say welcome back to another episode of elden ring, this was a great listen, fightingCowboy made few good pointers also. Much respect to you both
I love these dudes. Always look forward to a video with these two.
Fantastic discussion! I hope you do more of these. It was great to hear about different weapons and strats that aren’t mainstream.
Love seeing cowboy getting the recognition finally. Been there since day 1. Got me through bloodborne and both surge games, now elden ring. Good shit
Holy! I love how you can connect with these other RUclipsrs, Ruri. You the man! You too, Cowboy!
Love watching both of you!!! Great seeing you seeing friends chatting about a awesome game.
Yessssss,. an hour and a half of Ruri talking Elden Ring lore and everything else, my body needs it
It was nice having you at work with me guys! From an unlikely listener in Quebec, Canada! Love both your content!
I love great shields. 8 used them all through NG as my strength build and in NG+ I picked up the fingerprint shield and the ruins greatsword and had a wonderful time. Plus with the right build you can make blocking with the fingerprint shield consume no stamina.
I have the exact opposite problem from ruri. I found the camera would never stop swapping mid fight. I could be in a boss fight and multiple times my camera would be like oh you wanted to lock onto this deer 100 metres in the back?
Yes, i had that issue too until i turned off 'auto lock to new enemy' and that completely stopped it.
@@lukefinley6660 Interesting. I think ill give that a try
Yes, please do. If you read the option description its a little deceptive, as it makes you think it swaps on target death, but it applies to anytime your current target moves out of range, too quickly for the camera, or the specific spot where the lockon dot is attached to moves out of bounds will cause a target swap.
17:10 THIS! Yes, I had the exact same thought. The game's camera is great for exploration and dungeon crawling, but for big boss fights it would make sense to zoom out, pretty much as much as technically possible without the performance tanking.
And yes, finally someone brings up OG God Of War, which already had this nailed and then they changed it with the new games, making it less unique and just like most other games when it wasn't broken to begin with.
Great to see somebody else share the sentiment.
Playing on Series x is amazing. No glitches or crashes after 110 hrs except for the day 1 issues with friends joining. Since then, flawless and looks amazing
Boa noite rurikhan, seu objetivo de converter pessoas pros souls foi alcançado cmg, eu comecei a assistir o playthrough e parei por volta do episódio 15 para não tomar mais spoilers e decidi comprar. Excelente decisão, ainda não terminei, mas imagino q vai entrar no meu top3 jogos.
Continue com o bom trabalho.
P.s.: eu não sou criador de conteúdo, mas o que ouço de uns caras grandes aqui no Brasil é que é melhor criar canais diferentes pra vídeos diferentes. Talvez ter um canal separado para playthrough, um para os vídeos curtos e um para os podcasts faça com que o algoritmo não te foda tanto.
I really enjoyed this video, the discussion, hearing your take, everything! Please do another one soon!
One point I agree with early in this video is switching targets while locked on. It doesn't work half the time. And the camera will rotate my pov to a point where lock on disappears after killing an enemy, when there are other enemies on screen. Also, if a target gets hit and falls down while locked on (like the bat beings that hang upside down), when they hit the ground, the lock on disappears on that target. So, it has to be re-engaged.
Didn't expect Ruri to namedrop Etrian Odyssey lol
I am pleased. Such a great series of games.
Love it when u both come together..
You both are like the perfect pair.
And 8 been watching all ur posts and cowboys but prefer urs as its more homegrown feels natural maybe its because he made so many I started to lose track and whats he doing and where in the game.
I feel we are both same place and I've spent 9ver 150hrs easy and still just entering haigtree..and not done some of the end game bosses.
Anyway I enjoy both of u and im sycribed to just the base free value but will honor u with a paid subscription when payday comes.
Tip of the hat to Rurikon stay safe stay humble
I think that the laberynth part was the most funny and crazy thing that happened, these designers made the things gooood. I render like 5 mins of video tops and I already hate it, so I cant imagine HOURS of editing good lord. Love the dad talk at the end ♥
Just discovered your channel, and a big fan of Cowboy. Thanks for doing this guys! You guys opened with the performance issues. I don't know how I lucked into this situation, but for whatever reason, the game has NEVER crashed on me. Not a single time. Nor have I experienced frame drops unless I had something dumb running in the background at the same time (like After Effects or Blender). I'm on a beefy i9 10-core intel rig, and the game (and OS) is installed on a Samsung NVMe drive - BUT, because of the video card chaos, I'm still running an old 1080 GeForce (in 2k resolution) card. I have no idea how that worked out in my favor, but on this older card, the game was absolute butter. I was floored at how well it ran. I'd be very curious to know if players on older video card hardware are also having better performance. That sounds crazy, but I think it actually helps.
Dung Eater is actually a very interesting character. He's kind of a Punisher-like character but a little bit more fucked up in the head... but still, he's not just "chaotic evil" for no reason.
Also, what you guys said about one offs and Miyazaki doing different stuff. I would advise people to keep their hopes for another open world "FromSouls" in check. I really believe there's a good chance we'll still get the more contained Souls experience. Like, I don't think "Bloodborne 2" (if it ever happens) will be an open world game like Elden Ring.
To me ER really is their magnum opus but I can't lie and say it didn't felt like a marathon at the end. I was loving it but at the same time I could feel myself mentally tired from the boss gauntlet that is the game. Don't get me wrong, it's a 10/10 for me and I will replay it immediately (to me Souls games are always better the more knowledge you have), I'm just saying there is still a place for a more focused, 60 hour experience "metroidvania-esque" Souls games like Bloodborne or DS3.
At the end of the day, I can't pick between Elden Ring and Bloodborne for my favorite game of all time. And that says a lot about Bloodborne. I think ER is overall the better game but the gameplay and themes of Bloodborne is just.. perfect.
Punisher? No no no. He (Dung) punishes EVERYONE. There is very little crossover
Probably there will be a lot of refinement of the open world mechanics in the DLC over the course of a few years, and then in another half-decade or more a spiritual successor will arrive.
@@logabob and everyone will have to learn new names for the same dozen mechanics, all over again.
I doubt they would go back to more confined RPG's, they set a new standard for the gaming industry. This is the game Dark Souls wanted to be but they didn't the experience or budget yet.
@@20eyesmisfit if ER is the game they always wanted to make they stumbled upon Dark Souls by sheer luck.
I wouldn't say ER is a straight up Improvement or evolution, I would say it borrowed from past Souls games and made an open World around it. It's something else, that learned and improved on lessons learned from previous games.
That said, as much as I love the "Legacy Dungeons" in ER, they're no Yharnam, Undead Burg or Anor Londo to name a few. They feel more like smaller (but still amazing) areas like Cainhurst, Painted World of Ariamis.
At the end of the day all I'm saying is that Elden Ring's design is amazing in it's own way but it doesnt replace older titles, IMO of course.
I'm about to finish my second playthrough on Elden ring. The game is absolutely fantastic but my all-time favorite game is still sekiro. No video game developer has ever done sword combat that good. Ghost of tsushima was a pretty good game as well as far as a sword combat but sekiro is on another level. I don't believe there will ever be a better game than sekiro. I just want more combat like that. Do away with the stamina bars that limit the player
1000000000%. Amen to everything you just said. Sekiro isn’t my favorite story-wise and world-wise and art-wise and character-wise.... but combat gameplay-wise, it’s the best game ever.
I couldn’t get into sekiro way to grueling for my taste
Fax, I was hoping elden rings combat was similar to sekiro.
2 great creators representatives of both monster hunter and souls. I first found cowboy back with Bloodborne and since then have played every souls except demon souls and rurikan back with monster hunter world. Keep doing the great work. Can't wait for the monster hunter rise expansion!
Great conversations, I consider you both the reason I got so into the souls games, Thank you Rurikhan!
For Frost, the buildup scales with your Int stats but the damage I think is fixed unlike with Bleed
Verteran Cowboy fan here, new to Ruri but I can identify with him on the camera angle struggle 100%. It drives me nuts. I think Cowboy is right though. Its a part of the game and should be left alone. I think Ruri, like me at times, can take what's challenging and confuse it with "This needs to be fixed". But i get it, for sure.
Finally someone talked about the camera and the lock on
I'm so glad to have an explanation about the carian retaliation exploit. I was so confused I totally thought I was hacked or just lagged badly.
Epic collab!
Loved this video u are 2 of my fav streamers keep up the great videos
The parts of Elden Ring I hated the most where the acrophobia inducing ledge balancing sections. Gelmir Hero's Tomb, the Caelid Tower, the Carian Study Hall. The pit down to the three fingers werent so bad for me for 3 reasons:
1, You dont really have to fight so if I died I wouldnt need to reapply a rune arc.
2, I go there after ive spent most of my runes so it doesnt matter if I lose my small change.
3, You're supposed to be falling down, wich doesnt feel as bad as trying to not fall down.
It wouldve been a lot worse for me if you had to climb all the way up instead pf dropping down.
just in time to have it in the background playing while doing MSQ roulette :)
Couple of awkward moments in the first 20 minutes where you can tell Cowboy is thinking "Nah, that's not a problem, you just aren't that good"
Not really. Camera sometimes is indeed total jank during combat. No question about it.
Lmao! 🤣 FightinCowboy's such a character lol so hilarious I remember ppl being legitimately upset also that he obliterated Malenia on his first try lol
People are dumb and forget that Cowboy is really good at games. I learned how to play Nioh 2 well by watching his videos.
@@Spectacular_Insanity yea we know he’s good, but that attempt had no skill in it. It’s just pretty disappointing seeing him cheese the fuck out of her.
@@zezqi_ You're just salty. Figuring out the most efficient way to fight a boss is part of being skilled. It's much more disappointing watching someone fight a boss 50 times and die because they keep trying the same tactic that isn't working.
I played Elden Ring on PS5, so regarding the swapping of targets (once locked on) I had the same issues in trying to snap to different enemies. It is not a controller problem as FightinCowboy has mentioned, but a game design flaw.
Did ruri just mention etrian odyssey!!!!!???? DID RURI JUST MENTION MY SECOND FAVORITE GAME SERIES OF ALL TIME!!!
sweet, good to hear more people know about them. Last I heard there was another game in the works. Last they mentioned it was back in November I think.
For those wondering MH is #1 and souls is #3.
Im playing ER on my base PS4 and I had no problems at all. 270 hrs played.
Just because u used a summons doesn’t make it automatically easier. There’s a lot of factors the summons level whether u buffed which talismans which ashes and armour. U can use summons and have a harder time than someone fighting solo who uses oped weapons buffs etc
Great discussion! I'm like 120 hours in and still feel like I have a good deal more to do, this game is exactly what I hoped it would be.
I agreed with you for about 100 hours. Then i got bored as fuck, realized the open world is as horseshit as every other open world, and the pvp is utter garbage
@@yoloparrot42 Bullshit.
@@yoloparrot42 Fair enough, I feel the late game stuff doesn't have quite the same amount of polish. I'm not interested in the pvp so I can't say. Still, a good 100 hours is pretty welcome these days. I'll probably take a break after I finish it but definitely play it for a while.
@@yoloparrot42 PvP is amazing
@@yoloparrot42 far from perfect, but amazingly fun; I suggest you give it more of a shot, because while I understand the initial response to your first duel being double seppuku cross nagitanas followed by your first invasion being a threeway magic gank, will a bit of patience you find out there’s a lottt of people who just want to have fun and do their own thing with their unique builds, the possibilities start to open up and become so much fun
The camera in Elden Ring was actually improved though. It now goes through pillars and other floating geometry that it would have clipped against in previous games.
Yeah my thoughts exactly. The camera is great. The target lock is weird...it picks closest to center screen rather than closest enemy.
You’re gonna need a bigger boat- Chief Brody in Jaws
I have three builds and characters going. over 200hrs in and only one character is just getting to the giant lands. The game is absolutely incredible and now I am really wanting to start a 4th character as a dex dagger build.
I played on the PS4. Had really no issues graphic wise. But trying to summon people is a nightmare.
i have 150 hrs in elden ring . beat it . i have 5800x and 3070. played at 1440p at maximum settings at 60 fps constant . the only frame dip i got was at first tree sentinal and the bonfire to the first troll when he jumps from above before margit . apart from that game ran smooth till the end and only one crash for me in those 150 hours . i think some game engine doesn't respond well when you are doing fifty things at once , recording while playing etc or even at 4k . people have 20 different devices connected to their cpus to make matter worse . acg complain about bugs a lot while he has 50 usb ports with other devices connected. its not the games fault all the time when people complain that they have 3080 and game is not working well etc . yeah some games are buggy when they release like arkham knight , unity , witcher 3 but it's not at that huge amount that people complain about
Envoy Longhorn is probably my favorite weapon in the game. Love hearing that cowboy is enjoying it. That weapon eats bosses especially death birds and dragons
Thanks for this guys, I have had no running problems so far with the game on pc's. I have a new Alderlake i5 12600k with a 3070Ti card running at 1440 with dsr enabled and the game looks fantastic, no problems. I have my old rig still running in my loft room with a i7 4790 and a GTX 1070 card and that is running at 1080 and that runs the game good too. I am using keyboard and mouse though on the game not a controller, I found some good settings on the net to use, still getting used to the setup yet though but getting better. I stopped watching your video when you started talking about spoilers, maybe later.
I am 100 percent on board with the taking health away if your message is disparaged. That's an awesome idea. If it heals the person who wrote the message, there's no reason to respond
About 51 minutes in, you're taking about quest trackers, and something like the morrowind quest journal would work great here. It kept track of things, but wasn't literally a giant arrow pointing you in the right direction.
The teleported chest dungeon, there’s actually three separate instances but one is shorter and has no loot. I know because I meticulously marked every single instance with rainbow stones and wrote down which colors were where, and tested every single chest in the whole place.
The performance problem is random AF lol, I only have RX 570, frame rate drops happens but I never have a loading crash for a single time
I feel like radahn was an experiment for more online games so I think that miyazaki might try a monster hunter type game which would be super cool!
I started running longhorn bubble with the mask and it increases bubble skills and it's insane how much damage you can do to big enemies. Started using it about 2 weeks ago
2 Legends in one video, love it already.
Hey Ruri, you didn’t crashed Rannis quest by killing Selvius. You just didn’t talked to the miniature Ranni 3 times down at Ainsel River.
Gotta agree with Cowboy here. I don't think the camera is that bad. I think this is more or less a user issue and personal taste. Sorry but the camera really isn't that big of a deal.
I had the frame issues with the first Loretta fight at Carian manor on my first play through on PS4. On new game plus, no issues.
Haven’t even started it yet but I know it will be great!!!
100% agree on the performance issues and camera problems. Other than that might be my favourite game of all time.
The problem with the camera is that it automatically forces itself back to centered view, making manual camera control like you can do in monster hunter nearly impossible. And the target cam is complete garbage, like ruri said, it doesnt properly switch targets. Was playing wity a heavy thrusting sword and it was such a huge pain. Of course depending on the weapon, this thing might be no issue at all.
Setting the game on high performance worked like a charm. I’m on a fairly average acer nitro laptop but only had maybe 2 crashes. But then I know nothing about PCs.
Two of my favorite souls RUclipsrs in one video.
fuck yeah crossover time!!
New to all this to be honest, however...I found Elden Ring (never played any of the others) and loved it but was terrible at it not knowing wtf I was doing or where I was going...so frustrated I found and followed FC's walkthroughs...this is the best game I've ever played. So, just a quick thanks to FC for his content.
I'm legitimately confused as to what people's problem with the camera in these game is, I've never thought the camera was an issue.
Same here
I love to hear discussion about this game. I've been a mediocre gamer since ultima online in 1997.. I like to explore and play with fun builds. Never great at pvp or serious raids... Elden ring is the most amazing game I've ever seen. It's utterly amazing, mysterious and occasionally frustrating.. I love it!
This was great to listen to while at work.
Clicked just to see what cowboy looks like, stayed for the content.
Crucible Knights are the new Black Knights. Major threat, but can be easily trivialised if you know how.
Damn… I’m at 80 hours in on PC and I haven’t experienced a single crash. My sessions are probably much shorter than yours though.
Performance on 5600X, RTX 3070: no issues at all in 250hrs. Running reshade and a mod for increased fov and unlim frames too.
Camera is abysmal (for every Souls/console game in general) --> thus using fov mod, otherwise I simply cannot play. Always playing on MnK btw.
You can use celestial dew to bring npc’s back to fix some quests
Ran like ass on my 2080 Ti and 9900K build with 32GB DDR4 3333MHz CL14 ram, but on my Series X its almost flawless with only minor frame drops to high 40's low 50's... and not a single crash in 130 hours.
@fightincowboy helped me become a better Nioh and Elden Ring player. Dark Souls and Seikiro were not my type of games because they were hard to me. This guy simplified Elden Ring and Nioh 2 for me and now I am just good at them. Bring on the next Souls or Nioh game
I think Cowboy is mistaking designed challenge with something that shouldn't be a struggle. The camera is pretty awful in this game, especially for large enemies and your ability to react to them being hindered by not being able to see them because they're too large to fit into view. It's odd though, because they fixed that issue somewhat during the Ludwig fight by actually zooming out the camera during his encounter. So they've already made exceptions like this before and if this gaming is going to have massive, epic bosses like the Fire Giant, they need to design their camera around that because use being hit by something because the boss' scale just doesn't allow us to see the telegraphs isn't a challenge, it's just a massive annoyance. There's nothing for the player to do in order to fix that.
Cowboy and Rurikhan both get slammed for using the "OP tactics" XD Peeve has the same issue when his first PvP build was oriented around the Moonveil, because at the time he was using it, not EVERYONE was using it XD
People need to get over this Summons thing. There's an entire upgrade system oriented around the summons, clearly they're intended to be used and a lot of the game is designed around them being used. They're not some cheat code or something, they're a feature of the game. Get over it.
Also, Mimic Tear is not only good for being pretty powerful (even after the nerf), but also just being very complex and interesting. It is your build, your entire setup. That means that it even has your talismans and you can put an aggro talisman on, summon Mimic Tear, take the talisman off but Mimic Tear will still have it and draw aggro more effectively. That level of detail makes it easily the most interesting summon as well as one of the most powerful.
Okay, so here's an interesting bit for Cowboy... I've never played this game online, only offline. That grace at the magma wyrm, sometimes it and other grace sites appear and you can't interact with them for some reason. I'm not sure if that was recently patched or not, but there was a span where I couldn't activate those and no messages were present because I was offline. So that might have been just a bug he experienced too.
"You get your medium roll, stat requirements and then everything else in Vigor" Yeah, that's very much how this game works XD It was how I was able to make my Level 100, use almost anything in my inventory build. It was all about meeting the broadest range of base stat requirements with just switching talismans and the occasional helmet to wield almost anything I got in the game. Upgrades are where your damage really comes from in a lot of instances, and until that weapon can A or S scale your favored stat, best just keep upgrading it and not make the heavy investment yet XD
I definitely agree with the one guy how swapping between targets and the camera while on Torrent is super rough
So your hammer at base also scales at C with strength. Once you make it heavy sure it's probably a B but the same can be said for the Prelates hammer.
From everything I've seen/experienced (playing on PS5, watching content creators on PC) my takeaway is that the performance on PS5 generally speaking is better (fewer frame drops, less stuttering, etc.) but the graphics are much better on an optimized PC (albeit with the occasional drawback of those frame issues).
Good looking out Rurikhan with the spoilers disclaimer. Real life delayed playing the game, just getting to these parts now. I am actually a subscriber of FCB but he rarely does a spoiler disclaimer.
I made a great spear and greatshield build, and I love people that don't know shield bash also blocks. It's especially good against katana people. I use the Spiked Palisade. It looks great smacking into people.
I remember fighting pre nerf Radahn and it SUCKED felt like you were here waiting for when he decided to kill you.
The hot tip regarding playing the PS4 version on PS5 is totally true. That’s how I’ve been playing. It’s ridiculous that I felt the need to do so though. When you look at Forbidden West on PS5 it’s pretty obvious Elden Ring is leaving A LOT of power unused on the PS5, and it’s pretty annoying.
@FightinCowboy can we please get this dude to 200,000 subscribers???? He has earned it in spades!!!
How's that cowboy's responsibility lol.
I think the camera has always been bad in Souls games, if the Boss is a big ol boi, the camera is 50% of the difficulty
''If you use summons, did you really beat the boss?''. As a filthy summoner, I must admit the answer is; no.
I was standing far away spamming Comet Azur while mimic was tanking.
Its funny hearing Cowboy talking about his 1st 18mo old without realizing they're all like that lol. Kids are insane its amazing any of us survive.