I am so glad that FightinCowboy brought up the absurdity of the price discussion. This is $40 for an experience from a dev who is putting out consistent contemporary masterpieces, and $40 is breaking the budget for these people? Seriously?
It does raise eyebrows though because it is a more expensive DLC than is normal. And so it does need to be addressed, and is not absurd. If this is the new norm going forward than it’s worth discussing the value. 40 dollars isn’t breaking the budget for most people but costs all round have risen and people are struggling. Costs vary in different regions, too. They did not need to make the DLC this expensive. The only reason is because they want a larger profit and they are betting they will not get much push back from fans. There is plenty of DLC which was fantastic and did not cost that much. That was the standardised business practice. If it’s accepted and defended then that’s the new norm and you can expect more DLC with that cost and it will rise. We’ve seen how far companies are pushing live service games and microtransactions because people defended it and called it absurd to criticize it. Let’s not go down the route of “shut up and take my money”.
@@makasete30easy don’t buy it. U talking about people complaining everything is expensive when everyone waste their money on BS like drugs, fast food, and the new Fortnite skins every week. It’s been 2 Damm years and dropping $40 on a game that’s arguably the greatest ever, that sold 23m and counting is nothing. We give money to good companies that make great games. And this DLC is not like went other and you can clearly see it. U sound ridiculous
I agree. I think people are really setting themselves up to be disappointed in the size though. Limgrave isn’t that big. But I haven’t been telling myself the dev time was due to size for the last 2 years… I just wish it hadn’t taken 2 years considering that’s 2 years they weren’t working on ER2 or whatever their next masterpiece will be. Price tho, not even part of the conversation. I’d gladly fund From. They need all the resources we can send them if they keep releasing the games they have. Hopefully they can just increase the staff so we can get one every 2 years instead of every 3-4.
June release date is perfect for Elden Ring DLC. April: Rise of the Ronin May: Dragon Dogma 2 June: Another new playthrough of Elden Ring for DLC July: I touch grass.
I think something that is missed in the conversation about prices is how variable the cost of living is in different parts of the world or a country. For some, $40 is a lot more of their disposable income because they live somewhere where the cost of living is significantly lower, but unlike many goods which are priced regionally, video games are locked into one global price. For example, depending on where you live in the U.S., a movie ticket could be anywhere from $6 to $25, a very wide gap. Video games simply do not have the benefit of meeting a market’s cost of living to vary prices in that way.
Actually there are also regional price differences for games. Problem is they're often more expensive in places where you'd think they should be cheaper. So it's kind of unaffordable to regularly buy new games for some people. I've heard a lot about how bad it is in South America and some parts of South East Asia. Then there are also crazy European countries where things are also insanely expensive, like 80 dollars for a Switch game. That's what it is in my country (Switzerland). A game like Breath of the Wild would cost 75 Swiss francs here, which is basically 85 US dollars. And some PlayStation games are even worse.
Lmao What????? Tell us where the fuck you get movie ticket for $6?(or talking about matinee talking about marquee release since we are comparing that to AAA game title releases) AAA games have really not moved much either since the early days. I’m 38 years old and PS1, Sega, Nintendo games were typically $40-$50 back in the 90s. If you want to talk about cost of living and other goods - there has been literally non-existent inflation on the cost of games comparable to inflation of other goods - while at the same time, the cost of making those games has grow exponentially. So it’s natural that there would be an increase at some point. It has to happen as margins thin. Buy less games, find a cheaper hobby or make more money! I travel all over North America for work and movie tickets are consistent. Also, since the pandemic Apple and prime pretty much have a set price for “In theater” films comparable to 2 tickets at a theater. So a new marquee film is typically $20 or more to rent for 2 days while in theaters. Or $25 to buy - so where are you getting movie tix for $6 at a box office?
Seems like rebirth is a solid 10/10 for cowboy if the criticisms are stuff like there’s an hour of padding in 75 hours and the lighting pops in when you enter caves. Cant wait for the release
Using Cowboy's perspective on price I have to agree. At least to an extent. Last concert I attended with my wife set me back $1500 (went all out or it would have been about half that). That does not include: Gas and milage, Food, Drinks (so many drinks). I was in no way happy about spending more in one night than I usually budget for a year but the event, the music, and especially my company made it worth every penny to me. However... Every concert or sport event I have attended in my adult life I have memories that I still recall to myself and others. I cannot say the same about gaming. I play video games regularly but never seem to have a moment afterwards where I look at a friend or family member and say "Remember when" with the possible exception of early childhood. Games are more the "junk food" of entertainment to me at least. It's created few real memories but is fantastic at helping pass the time between. Gaming industry likely also needs to factor in that most gamers have a specific annual budget in mind for their entertainment. The higher the price the fewer titles each person will buy that year (my total gaming budget is about $300 a year for instance barring a new console). If the prices go up so do the risks as gamers who may have had the budget for their $60-$70 game may decide to pass over it for another title when the price is $150 increasing the companies risk of loss due to poor total sales. Gaming also sells globally while other entertainment is more local reducing potential profits by quantity. Posting this before my brain decides to go farther down this particular rabbit hole...
respecing also sucks all the fun out of playing a character. Whats the point of building a character and putting all that thought into it if you can just go and change it?
@@Yobolight It's negligible. I just grabbed screens comparing a 351 everyman build to a 150 strength build wearing identical armor and there's extremely minor differences. A spelldrake talisman +2 provides more defensive bonus than 71 points of intelligence.
I know Ruri lives in Portugal which is quite an affordable European country, but still, the prices discussed from 25:00 onward are nuts. 50 euros for 2 people to eat sushi at a nice sushi place? That's crazy. I live in Geneva and here it would be 150 to 200 francs minimum for 2 people to have actually good sushi. For reference, 200 francs is about 210 euros. Also, Ruri mentioned 100 euros for groceries for 2 weeks for 2 people. That's dirt cheap. Here it would be 5 times that.
@@matthewalvarez6884 Yen? Then you must be in Japan. In Japan sushi is much, much cheaper than it is in Europe. So the comparison doesn't really make sense. In fact food in general is far more affordable in Japan than anywhere in Europe. I was talking about European prices. Also, I have to say, conveyor belt sushi is really not what I had in mind. I was referring to high quality sushi in a nice restaurant. That's expensive in Europe.
@@matthewalvarez6884 why is it more expensive. Are the ingredients better or fresh. I would think fresh in an area that is local would be easier on the pocketbook. Less shipping and transport fees. Is skill and expertise part of the price, or certain regulations
@@shokid24 tarrifs on imports for conpeting domestic products, high costs to produce thing because of high energy costs, less space for mass production. Eating out here is cheaper than the average meal in the USA but the portions are also much smaller. Electricity is something like 1.6 to 2 times as expensive as the USA.
I haven't played in so long, I don't remember all the controls! So I need to build a new character and run through at least part of the game to relearn all my muscle memory.
51:51 exactly what I have been doing this week. My character is lvl 355 and on ng+5 The most fun I ever had switching weapons and builds for every boss fight
My first thought when I saw the price was “OMG, this is going to be Elden Ring 1.5!!!!”. I was so excited. Because Fromsoft undersells their games if anything. I’m pretty sure Elden Ring was sold for 60$ across the board when games were already selling for $70. So if the expansion costs 2/3 the regular game I would bet my life that this game will be 2/3 the size of the original game. Not necessarily in physical size, but in content and value. I don’t think it will be even half the physical size of the original game, but I think the area we will get will be a lot more dense and the production value will be higher. I put 170 hours into my first playthrough when the game came out. I explored as much as I could and did as much as I could. I will do the same with the DLC, and I would be surprised if I get less than 60 hours of gameplay out of it. I 100% believe that they aren’t charging us $60-70 because at that point they would have to call it Elden Ring 2. They are advertising it like it’s a full game. What expansions come with collector editions and stuff like that? I’m calling it, Elden Ring will be the first game to win game of the year twice.
I have around 1000 hours on Elden Ring total and it was definitely worth it. I’m sure I’ll get another 1000 hour over a couple months because I’ll play the dlc and then also do whole main game play throughs with the new weapons and builds etc
Love you both, my go to "let me check out that new game on youtube". *saved LP series* Can't wait for you guys to cover the upcoming amazing games this year.
What about the ringed city do you not like!? If you like the rest of ds3 I don't see what you could dislike about that DLC. I'm so curious now, do you dislike DS1 DLC too?
It rules, but it was largely panned for it's over the top difficulty. That was the perception i had from the community going into it years later. I loved it though
I agree with Cowboy on pricing theory, the only disagreement part I have is when they release a game that is either less than what was advertised, a AAA game that is not completely polished and finished (rushed out the door). I spent $109 on BF and it was horrible, but I am a crappy first person shooter too and I can watch Jackfrag and he makes it look like a AAA game. Usually, regardless I simply wait until a game is 1/2 off or $20 then I buy. Unless it is from a publisher I know never fails then I buy regardless.
Considering all of the games ruined by microtransaction hell I am not only accepting the DLC price but so pleased to purchase a full size expansion for a single player RPG video game. I was happy when I did it for the old school box PC RPGs like Baldurs Gate and I'll happily do it for Elden Ring. That's how you do addon content, not horse armor. Obviously this is the superior way to intake content, but it's less profitable in the short term to CEOs who could give a shit less where the franchise goes long term.
I’m doing dex/faith currently because I feel like it will mix well with the new weapons they showed off. Just enough faith for golden vow and the rest into dex. Hoping the martial arts is dex and not strength lol.
Just an idea Ruri but if the plan is to follow Cowboys idea and just level up stupid high so you can use everything may I suggest instead of wasting your life in Mog's palace killing Albanorics you instead just download and install the Grand Merchant mod from Nexus, it makes Kale sell literally everything in the game including all the soul items and so long as you install it though ModEngine2 it can't get you banned, that way once you finish your playthough and collect everything you can simply just get tons of souls to hit the levels you need fast.
I hope Cowboy puts out some "Here's what you need to do to get ready for Shadow of the Erdtree" videos. I finished the game but some people are saying don't start the expansion with that character, instead get to this point in each story line so you won't break the expansion. 🤔
My opinion if you care is run an Arcane build. You have a greater chance of getting the new weapons. Item discovery. Str/Arc is my favorite because you can proc bleed at 45 really well. Also keep in mind they are implementing some offensive power scaling so it might not matter if you are level 90 or 400. Buy a shit ton of smithing stones as well.
@@snazzyfeathers putting bleed on any of the great swords is insane. Greatsword gets like 157 and procs bleed in two hits. Plus the Ashes for ultras are the best for large bosses. Ultimately play however you want or best. But I think getting high arcane is the best for just getting items so you can try the new stuff. I really want the gravity lance. I know it is Int and is probably a guaranteed drop from that guy but I will still play arcane first.
That because you are not taking into account the wages in Portugal, its feels wonderful for british coming to Portugal, portuguese going to some countries where 1€=1000 unit of money there, in some movies there a reference of lobster dinner being less than 2$ in some other country but for people in those countries they probably can't afford it regularly maybe not even 1 time a month. I heard for exemple that in Brasil, games are way too much % of monthly salary and pc prices are highway robbery. Prices have a lot to do with minimal wages, if we had Germany wages our prices would skyrocket because stores would say you can afford it, purchase power is not getting any better since % increase of salary are not much better than inflation, there some reports/documentary how on america decades ago was much easier/younger you could have money to buy a house, now leasing should be much more dominant. It´s a very lose/lose situation, unless you are receiving from other country (higher wages) where you not residing.
33:27 I think people are really setting themselves up to be disappointed with the size of the DLC not because I think it’s small but because it’s taken SOOO long I’ve seen every comment the last year say something like “it’s only taking so long because of how big it is, it will be big as half ER.” Or things like that…. tho it looks amazing IMO… it doesn’t sound crazy huge BUT the way they are going to make dungeons flow into the landscape to me sounds awesome… ie no cookie cutter doorway or entrances and chalice dungeon-ish caves or dungeons.
idk dude, i think miyazaki is straight up lying about the size. On launch he said ER would take about 30 hours to complete for a first playthrough and most people took atleast 80. He is being way too humble. The Dark souls 1 DLC is like 3/4 the size of limgrave not including weeping pennisula, so I cant imagine doubling the price just for that. Its also going to be more dense than anywhere else in ER currently so even if the size is about the size of limgrave, the amount of content there will be atleast double which is huge. My own thoughts are is going to be about the size of the bottom half of the current map below liurnia, maybe a tad smaller, but be super dense with more main bosses than that area holds in base game. That seems what is the most likely given the price. If you look at it, elden ring is 60 dollars. 40 is 2/3 of that. So at most we are getting something on par with 2/3 of the game. Cut the size down and compact it all and the size gets smaller but everything else gets bigger. Thats just how im looking at it though, Dont let miyazaki fool you. Under sell, over deliver. Thats been their thing with elden ring for all of the marketing for base game and even then they hid so much stuff so well in the OG trailers, you had no idea when the game would end on first playthrough. I dont think the trailer even showed us an 1/8th of whats coming
Im guessing CB is going to end up doing a high volume of eps per day and then the night before dogma he's just going to dump the rest of FF7 rebirth eps. Or he does the math and evenly splits the eps among the days.
@@BasketCase-rr7tx Rebirth does have endgame content not nearly as much as Granblue. Either way endgame doesn’t change that Rebirth has way more depth and things to do in combat
@@oscaroska7613 Rebirths Junon demo is more difficult than anything in Granblue’s entire story campaign cmon now. Rebirth you can’t button mash to beat the demo boss, you’ll get destroyed
28:51. It’s because comedy is also overrated. I went and saw Tom segura with my ex girlfriend in 2022 and it was so not worth it. It was part of a gift she gave me and I was pissed that money was wasted lol. Also, Elden Ring is two years old. I guess I can understand why people would be upset, but of course the new stuff is going to be great and 40 is not that much. You could save 10 dollars a month and you will have it right when June comes around.
40$ is a night's worth of tips for me on a decent night. Or a week's worth of groceries. So I'm really feeling that price. Chances are I'll probably end up watching you guys play the dlc first and then maybe later pay for the dlc, but it's hefty for a dlc.
It's rough out here in the states with inflation and trying to get that bag when you're in your twenties. And I pray for y'all paying off student loans 🙏😄
I'm ok with 40$ it's a DLC for the greatest souls game ever made and won game of the year. Most people have the game in their top 5 and we know how picky gamers can be.
40 Euros isn't that much, i can get a 40 Eur PSN card with 10% discount, that is only 36 Euro, for a game that you can get at least 50 hours out of it, it is nothing.
32:20 How can you not like Ringed City? It’s likely tied with The Old Hunters for fan favorite of all the From DLCs?!? Ruri, I like you but this makes me question your judgement!!
@@rurikhan both of those are easy to deal with if you're smart about it, the archers are easy to run past with good pathing and it's the same with the angels. Both of those are also such a small part of the dlc.
Yes AAAA is meant to be used in relation to budget but that's not the context it was used by the CEO when describing the game. He was attempting to upsell it's quality but has no idea what he's talking about or how the term is contextually used.
46:14 Literally unplayable. When maxed golem great bow hits around 600-700 with AOE and knock down. With the weapon art it hits over 1000. If you use buffs talismans etc, you can reach to 1500.
I do find it bizarre to say that people who criticize the suicide squad need to move on. We all have the same hobby, right? We are all listening to a podcast about the world of games and the development practices which encourages discussion and different opinions. People do care about the characters and worlds in books, movies and games. It’s how companies make money. And the stronger the feedback the more companies listen and make changes. Move on with less “salt” and you’ll get more of the same crap with your favourite franchises. EA only pulled back from Microtransactions in Battlefront 2 when the social media backlash did not die down and increased. Then they made it easier to get the characters with less grinding and lowered the prices. These guys seem to be arguing for more apathy and dumb love of bad practices and story telling. It’s ok if you loved it and want to gush on every video. It’s also ok if you hated it and want to criticize it so that it doesn’t spread in future.
I’m sorry brother! I didn’t notice that you asked and I feel like an ass because I watched the video a while ago and never in a million years did I expect you to respond to my dumb ass lol I am rewatching the video because I want to reply to you respectfully! I regret that I haven’t found your videos until recently. You took my number one spot!
Also probably said some other stupid shit no doubt so apologies for that as well. Should probably take into consideration that there are professionals out there who take pride in their work and have the integrity to respond. Valuable lesson learned for an ignorant internet user with little tech savvy, now who is cringy? lol
Ok got it! The from softy joke where you replied that you get hard, it wasn’t cringy at all. It was brilliant and Cowboy should have acknowledged the joke. He just let it go over his head. Sorry man, I know my solitary view is only a drop in the bucket for you but I appreciate you all the same
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I am so glad that FightinCowboy brought up the absurdity of the price discussion. This is $40 for an experience from a dev who is putting out consistent contemporary masterpieces, and $40 is breaking the budget for these people? Seriously?
The dlc probably will have more content that most 70$ games.
It does raise eyebrows though because it is a more expensive DLC than is normal.
And so it does need to be addressed, and is not absurd.
If this is the new norm going forward than it’s worth discussing the value. 40 dollars isn’t breaking the budget for most people but costs all round have risen and people are struggling. Costs vary in different regions, too. They did not need to make the DLC this expensive. The only reason is because they want a larger profit and they are betting they will not get much push back from fans.
There is plenty of DLC which was fantastic and did not cost that much. That was the standardised business practice.
If it’s accepted and defended then that’s the new norm and you can expect more DLC with that cost and it will rise. We’ve seen how far companies are pushing live service games and microtransactions because people defended it and called it absurd to criticize it. Let’s not go down the route of “shut up and take my money”.
At forty bucks for this vs what the game sold is massive. It’s gone be awesome and I have been waiting for this just like everyone.
@@makasete30easy don’t buy it. U talking about people complaining everything is expensive when everyone waste their money on BS like drugs, fast food, and the new Fortnite skins every week. It’s been 2 Damm years and dropping $40 on a game that’s arguably the greatest ever, that sold 23m and counting is nothing. We give money to good companies that make great games. And this DLC is not like went other and you can clearly see it. U sound ridiculous
I agree. I think people are really setting themselves up to be disappointed in the size though. Limgrave isn’t that big. But I haven’t been telling myself the dev time was due to size for the last 2 years… I just wish it hadn’t taken 2 years considering that’s 2 years they weren’t working on ER2 or whatever their next masterpiece will be. Price tho, not even part of the conversation. I’d gladly fund From. They need all the resources we can send them if they keep releasing the games they have. Hopefully they can just increase the staff so we can get one every 2 years instead of every 3-4.
Funny as it is, I love the banter about just being old…groceries, hardware stores, etc. just funny and relatable!
always great to see Ruri and Cowboy
Yeah!
June release date is perfect for Elden Ring DLC.
April: Rise of the Ronin
May: Dragon Dogma 2
June: Another new playthrough of Elden Ring for DLC
July: I touch grass.
Dragons dogma 2 is released march 22nd, not may
Dawntrail comes in July... I ain't getting a break
I know when the game is released. This is my plan to play the games listed.@@steved797
@@steved797I think he means he will play the games in that order. Each month a new game
No way you’re delaying playing DD2 for rise of ronin
I think something that is missed in the conversation about prices is how variable the cost of living is in different parts of the world or a country. For some, $40 is a lot more of their disposable income because they live somewhere where the cost of living is significantly lower, but unlike many goods which are priced regionally, video games are locked into one global price.
For example, depending on where you live in the U.S., a movie ticket could be anywhere from $6 to $25, a very wide gap. Video games simply do not have the benefit of meeting a market’s cost of living to vary prices in that way.
Actually there are also regional price differences for games. Problem is they're often more expensive in places where you'd think they should be cheaper. So it's kind of unaffordable to regularly buy new games for some people. I've heard a lot about how bad it is in South America and some parts of South East Asia. Then there are also crazy European countries where things are also insanely expensive, like 80 dollars for a Switch game.
That's what it is in my country (Switzerland). A game like Breath of the Wild would cost 75 Swiss francs here, which is basically 85 US dollars. And some PlayStation games are even worse.
Lmao What????? Tell us where the fuck you get movie ticket for $6?(or talking about matinee talking about marquee release since we are comparing that to AAA game title releases) AAA games have really not moved much either since the early days. I’m 38 years old and PS1, Sega, Nintendo games were typically $40-$50 back in the 90s. If you want to talk about cost of living and other goods - there has been literally non-existent inflation on the cost of games comparable to inflation of other goods - while at the same time, the cost of making those games has grow exponentially. So it’s natural that there would be an increase at some point. It has to happen as margins thin. Buy less games, find a cheaper hobby or make more money!
I travel all over North America for work and movie tickets are consistent. Also, since the pandemic Apple and prime pretty much have a set price for “In theater” films comparable to 2 tickets at a theater. So a new marquee film is typically $20 or more to rent for 2 days while in theaters. Or $25 to buy - so where are you getting movie tix for $6 at a box office?
Elden Ring money train is back for Cowboy. He deserves it to best streamer for Fromsoftware. It isn’t even close in my view.
Lobosjr ???
@@melo774 lobos a legend. Both are great for different reasons!
Thank you for inviting FightinCowboy again for the podcast!!
Seems like rebirth is a solid 10/10 for cowboy if the criticisms are stuff like there’s an hour of padding in 75 hours and the lighting pops in when you enter caves. Cant wait for the release
I love this two of my fav RUclipsrs in one video
Using Cowboy's perspective on price I have to agree. At least to an extent.
Last concert I attended with my wife set me back $1500 (went all out or it would have been about half that). That does not include: Gas and milage, Food, Drinks (so many drinks). I was in no way happy about spending more in one night than I usually budget for a year but the event, the music, and especially my company made it worth every penny to me.
However...
Every concert or sport event I have attended in my adult life I have memories that I still recall to myself and others. I cannot say the same about gaming. I play video games regularly but never seem to have a moment afterwards where I look at a friend or family member and say "Remember when" with the possible exception of early childhood. Games are more the "junk food" of entertainment to me at least. It's created few real memories but is fantastic at helping pass the time between.
Gaming industry likely also needs to factor in that most gamers have a specific annual budget in mind for their entertainment. The higher the price the fewer titles each person will buy that year (my total gaming budget is about $300 a year for instance barring a new console). If the prices go up so do the risks as gamers who may have had the budget for their $60-$70 game may decide to pass over it for another title when the price is $150 increasing the companies risk of loss due to poor total sales. Gaming also sells globally while other entertainment is more local reducing potential profits by quantity.
Posting this before my brain decides to go farther down this particular rabbit hole...
The "everyman build" will still be more powerful than respecing constantly because damage resistances are tied to your overall level.
respecing also sucks all the fun out of playing a character. Whats the point of building a character and putting all that thought into it if you can just go and change it?
Yeah, I'm going to play an actual build.
@@Yobolight It's negligible. I just grabbed screens comparing a 351 everyman build to a 150 strength build wearing identical armor and there's extremely minor differences. A spelldrake talisman +2 provides more defensive bonus than 71 points of intelligence.
@@FightinCowboyyeah it only matters in pvp don’t listen to this guy lol
@@Yobolight you don't even need an "everyman build" every build has ways to deal with resistances and short comings.
I know Ruri lives in Portugal which is quite an affordable European country, but still, the prices discussed from 25:00 onward are nuts. 50 euros for 2 people to eat sushi at a nice sushi place? That's crazy. I live in Geneva and here it would be 150 to 200 francs minimum for 2 people to have actually good sushi. For reference, 200 francs is about 210 euros. Also, Ruri mentioned 100 euros for groceries for 2 weeks for 2 people. That's dirt cheap. Here it would be 5 times that.
Cost me 3000 yen for 2 at conveyor belt sushi
@@matthewalvarez6884 Yen? Then you must be in Japan. In Japan sushi is much, much cheaper than it is in Europe. So the comparison doesn't really make sense. In fact food in general is far more affordable in Japan than anywhere in Europe. I was talking about European prices. Also, I have to say, conveyor belt sushi is really not what I had in mind. I was referring to high quality sushi in a nice restaurant. That's expensive in Europe.
@@MarkHogan994 I was just saying how much it is in Japan. Also food overall is more expensive in Japan than the USA at least.
@@matthewalvarez6884 why is it more expensive. Are the ingredients better or fresh. I would think fresh in an area that is local would be easier on the pocketbook. Less shipping and transport fees. Is skill and expertise part of the price, or certain regulations
@@shokid24 tarrifs on imports for conpeting domestic products, high costs to produce thing because of high energy costs, less space for mass production. Eating out here is cheaper than the average meal in the USA but the portions are also much smaller. Electricity is something like 1.6 to 2 times as expensive as the USA.
Thank you for having Cowboy on the podcast again! It is always a great time when you two are together and talk about games.
I have a question, which membership do I need to see this content for Elden Ring on cowboys channel?
I haven't played in so long, I don't remember all the controls! So I need to build a new character and run through at least part of the game to relearn all my muscle memory.
51:51 exactly what I have been doing this week.
My character is lvl 355 and on ng+5
The most fun I ever had switching weapons and builds for every boss fight
“Who’s the comedian, Eddy Murphy”😂😂😂 FOLLOWED/subbed!, great vid!
2 podcasts in one week? How did we get soo lucky.
My first thought when I saw the price was “OMG, this is going to be Elden Ring 1.5!!!!”. I was so excited. Because Fromsoft undersells their games if anything. I’m pretty sure Elden Ring was sold for 60$ across the board when games were already selling for $70. So if the expansion costs 2/3 the regular game I would bet my life that this game will be 2/3 the size of the original game. Not necessarily in physical size, but in content and value. I don’t think it will be even half the physical size of the original game, but I think the area we will get will be a lot more dense and the production value will be higher.
I put 170 hours into my first playthrough when the game came out. I explored as much as I could and did as much as I could. I will do the same with the DLC, and I would be surprised if I get less than 60 hours of gameplay out of it.
I 100% believe that they aren’t charging us $60-70 because at that point they would have to call it Elden Ring 2.
They are advertising it like it’s a full game. What expansions come with collector editions and stuff like that?
I’m calling it, Elden Ring will be the first game to win game of the year twice.
Er winning goty twice geez wipe that from software glaze off your mouth lmao
I have around 1000 hours on Elden Ring total and it was definitely worth it. I’m sure I’ll get another 1000 hour over a couple months because I’ll play the dlc and then also do whole main game play throughs with the new weapons and builds etc
Love you both, my go to "let me check out that new game on youtube". *saved LP series*
Can't wait for you guys to cover the upcoming amazing games this year.
There's evidence of stats changing upon vocation change Rurikhan however we don't have absolute proof yet.
I love to see you both!
49:41 In Sekiro you could go past 20 if you got the complete dragon mask at which putting 3 skill points in would give you 1 attack power increase.
Basically 20 is the soft cap
my fav gamer youtuber Fightincowboy
Lmfao FromSofties I’m stealing that 😂
Nice designation.
Cool nickname!
Loving the podcast
in sekiro each remembrance could only get got once even in ng+, the only way to get around this is with the dragon mask.
What about the ringed city do you not like!? If you like the rest of ds3 I don't see what you could dislike about that DLC. I'm so curious now, do you dislike DS1 DLC too?
It rules, but it was largely panned for it's over the top difficulty. That was the perception i had from the community going into it years later. I loved it though
I agree with Cowboy on pricing theory, the only disagreement part I have is when they release a game that is either less than what was advertised, a AAA game that is not completely polished and finished (rushed out the door). I spent $109 on BF and it was horrible, but I am a crappy first person shooter too and I can watch Jackfrag and he makes it look like a AAA game. Usually, regardless I simply wait until a game is 1/2 off or $20 then I buy. Unless it is from a publisher I know never fails then I buy regardless.
Considering all of the games ruined by microtransaction hell I am not only accepting the DLC price but so pleased to purchase a full size expansion for a single player RPG video game. I was happy when I did it for the old school box PC RPGs like Baldurs Gate and I'll happily do it for Elden Ring. That's how you do addon content, not horse armor. Obviously this is the superior way to intake content, but it's less profitable in the short term to CEOs who could give a shit less where the franchise goes long term.
I’m doing dex/faith currently because I feel like it will mix well with the new weapons they showed off. Just enough faith for golden vow and the rest into dex. Hoping the martial arts is dex and not strength lol.
Martial arts, I imagine, would he Dex!!
Although, I haven’t played dark souls 2 yet, so if someone could correct me on Martial arts being dex.
Golden vow might not work in the shadow realm
Warfarer is basically "Jack of all trades, master of none".
Just an idea Ruri but if the plan is to follow Cowboys idea and just level up stupid high so you can use everything may I suggest instead of wasting your life in Mog's palace killing Albanorics you instead just download and install the Grand Merchant mod from Nexus, it makes Kale sell literally everything in the game including all the soul items and so long as you install it though ModEngine2 it can't get you banned, that way once you finish your playthough and collect everything you can simply just get tons of souls to hit the levels you need fast.
Ruri should play the Yuffie DLC. She's so busted in it, so I do believe she'll be OP in Rebirth.
Shes busted because they rushed out that DLC to go with the PS5 version. They just wanted to grab the cash.
@@BasketCase-rr7txShe's just busted because she's ranged. Aerith and Barret are pretty damn busted in Remake.
I already did.
@@rurikhan oh nice!
Awesome!@@rurikhan
I hope Cowboy puts out some "Here's what you need to do to get ready for Shadow of the Erdtree" videos. I finished the game but some people are saying don't start the expansion with that character, instead get to this point in each story line so you won't break the expansion. 🤔
I too am wondering how they are gonna implement the DLC
I understand why they would say that but being able to use all of the weapons available in the dlc is hype.
My opinion if you care is run an Arcane build. You have a greater chance of getting the new weapons. Item discovery. Str/Arc is my favorite because you can proc bleed at 45 really well.
Also keep in mind they are implementing some offensive power scaling so it might not matter if you are level 90 or 400.
Buy a shit ton of smithing stones as well.
@@OD91MJ That's actually not a bad idea, and there are some decent weapons for arcane as well.
@@snazzyfeathers putting bleed on any of the great swords is insane. Greatsword gets like 157 and procs bleed in two hits. Plus the Ashes for ultras are the best for large bosses.
Ultimately play however you want or best. But I think getting high arcane is the best for just getting items so you can try the new stuff.
I really want the gravity lance. I know it is Int and is probably a guaranteed drop from that guy but I will still play arcane first.
Food in Portugal actually sounds cheap compared to the US. $100 for a week of groceries or $50 to go out for sushi for 2 people is nothing.
That because you are not taking into account the wages in Portugal, its feels wonderful for british coming to Portugal, portuguese going to some countries where 1€=1000 unit of money there, in some movies there a reference of lobster dinner being less than 2$ in some other country but for people in those countries they probably can't afford it regularly maybe not even 1 time a month.
I heard for exemple that in Brasil, games are way too much % of monthly salary and pc prices are highway robbery.
Prices have a lot to do with minimal wages, if we had Germany wages our prices would skyrocket because stores would say you can afford it, purchase power is not getting any better since % increase of salary are not much better than inflation, there some reports/documentary how on america decades ago was much easier/younger you could have money to buy a house, now leasing should be much more dominant.
It´s a very lose/lose situation, unless you are receiving from other country (higher wages) where you not residing.
If fighting cowboy would be honest it was not chocobo first or towers first in the area but tcg card crack first every time!
Hell even books are super expensive now unless you buy digital.
33:27 I think people are really setting themselves up to be disappointed with the size of the DLC not because I think it’s small but because it’s taken SOOO long I’ve seen every comment the last year say something like “it’s only taking so long because of how big it is, it will be big as half ER.” Or things like that…. tho it looks amazing IMO… it doesn’t sound crazy huge BUT the way they are going to make dungeons flow into the landscape to me sounds awesome… ie no cookie cutter doorway or entrances and chalice dungeon-ish caves or dungeons.
idk dude, i think miyazaki is straight up lying about the size. On launch he said ER would take about 30 hours to complete for a first playthrough and most people took atleast 80. He is being way too humble. The Dark souls 1 DLC is like 3/4 the size of limgrave not including weeping pennisula, so I cant imagine doubling the price just for that. Its also going to be more dense than anywhere else in ER currently so even if the size is about the size of limgrave, the amount of content there will be atleast double which is huge.
My own thoughts are is going to be about the size of the bottom half of the current map below liurnia, maybe a tad smaller, but be super dense with more main bosses than that area holds in base game. That seems what is the most likely given the price. If you look at it, elden ring is 60 dollars. 40 is 2/3 of that. So at most we are getting something on par with 2/3 of the game. Cut the size down and compact it all and the size gets smaller but everything else gets bigger. Thats just how im looking at it though, Dont let miyazaki fool you. Under sell, over deliver. Thats been their thing with elden ring for all of the marketing for base game and even then they hid so much stuff so well in the OG trailers, you had no idea when the game would end on first playthrough. I dont think the trailer even showed us an 1/8th of whats coming
I hate the ‘is it worth it?’ question in any context.
I hope they add a symbol of Avarice something similar at least
isn't there a scarab head peace that boosts discovery?
Cowboy 🤠
I honestly couldn't figure out how to turn off motion blur
What game ?
@@oscaroska7613 on ff7 rebirth I even went looking to turn it off and couldn't find it
Im guessing CB is going to end up doing a high volume of eps per day and then the night before dogma he's just going to dump the rest of FF7 rebirth eps. Or he does the math and evenly splits the eps among the days.
Yeah Rebirth combat actually has depth and isn’t a mindless cakewalk like Granblue fantasy relink
Well you could also look at it from the opposite perspective that Relink is all about the endgame and Rebirth doenst have an endgame.
@@BasketCase-rr7tx Rebirth does have endgame content not nearly as much as Granblue. Either way endgame doesn’t change that Rebirth has way more depth and things to do in combat
Both games are mindless button smash, to be honest. Relink you can finish Quest literally afk like some people posted
@@oscaroska7613 Rebirths Junon demo is more difficult than anything in Granblue’s entire story campaign cmon now. Rebirth you can’t button mash to beat the demo boss, you’ll get destroyed
@inator You completed Rebirth?
It is absolutely insane that Cowboy is going into the DLC with capped stats in only NG+…. That sounds terrible lol
How do you get 2 weeks of groceries cost you $100 euros?
You buy cheap food.
Lol cowboy thats the start of granblue not the endgame my guy
LET ME SOLO HER COME BACK!!!
Griffiths God Hand name is FEMTO there is no "i". =]
I have a friend who pronounced Kushala's name, Kushaladora, and Teostra's name Testoraa
Phemeto is a youtuber, prolly making puns with femto
ruri where the fuck did you turn off motion blur?! there is no option for that
I think I confused it for another game.
@@rurikhan haha np :)
28:51. It’s because comedy is also overrated. I went and saw Tom segura with my ex girlfriend in 2022 and it was so not worth it. It was part of a gift she gave me and I was pissed that money was wasted lol. Also, Elden Ring is two years old. I guess I can understand why people would be upset, but of course the new stuff is going to be great and 40 is not that much. You could save 10 dollars a month and you will have it right when June comes around.
40$ is a night's worth of tips for me on a decent night. Or a week's worth of groceries. So I'm really feeling that price. Chances are I'll probably end up watching you guys play the dlc first and then maybe later pay for the dlc, but it's hefty for a dlc.
It's rough out here in the states with inflation and trying to get that bag when you're in your twenties. And I pray for y'all paying off student loans 🙏😄
Just say you’re broke and keep it moving
@@SleeplessSpecter Actually I'll think I'll do whatever the hell I want, thanks though rando
@@SleeplessSpecter Bro chill out
Save 3$ a week and it's yours pretty much on release!
I'm ok with 40$ it's a DLC for the greatest souls game ever made and won game of the year. Most people have the game in their top 5 and we know how picky gamers can be.
40 Euros isn't that much, i can get a 40 Eur PSN card with 10% discount, that is only 36 Euro, for a game that you can get at least 50 hours out of it, it is nothing.
CheatinCowboy back at it again
Tough
😢 oh men till tomorrow.
32:20 How can you not like Ringed City? It’s likely tied with The Old Hunters for fan favorite of all the From DLCs?!? Ruri, I like you but this makes me question your judgement!!
It’s a gameplay thing. I hate mechanics like the gundam angels and spectral archers.
@@rurikhan both of those are easy to deal with if you're smart about it, the archers are easy to run past with good pathing and it's the same with the angels. Both of those are also such a small part of the dlc.
Skull and Bones is AAAA … that has nothing todo with quality only with budget and resources … how can you not know that?
Yes AAAA is meant to be used in relation to budget but that's not the context it was used by the CEO when describing the game. He was attempting to upsell it's quality but has no idea what he's talking about or how the term is contextually used.
46:14 Literally unplayable.
When maxed golem great bow hits around 600-700 with AOE and knock down. With the weapon art it hits over 1000. If you use buffs talismans etc, you can reach to 1500.
I do find it bizarre to say that people who criticize the suicide squad need to move on. We all have the same hobby, right? We are all listening to a podcast about the world of games and the development practices which encourages discussion and different opinions.
People do care about the characters and worlds in books, movies and games. It’s how companies make money. And the stronger the feedback the more companies listen and make changes.
Move on with less “salt” and you’ll get more of the same crap with your favourite franchises. EA only pulled back from Microtransactions in Battlefront 2 when the social media backlash did not die down and increased. Then they made it easier to get the characters with less grinding and lowered the prices.
These guys seem to be arguing for more apathy and dumb love of bad practices and story telling. It’s ok if you loved it and want to gush on every video. It’s also ok if you hated it and want to criticize it so that it doesn’t spread in future.
Cowboy comes across as a bit of a snob tbh.
Cowboy fucking sucks, he’s an asshole and he’s so goddamn boring.
Still cringing inside from khan’s swing and a miss joke
Which one lol I have so many.
I’m sorry brother! I didn’t notice that you asked and I feel like an ass because I watched the video a while ago and never in a million years did I expect you to respond to my dumb ass lol I am rewatching the video because I want to reply to you respectfully! I regret that I haven’t found your videos until recently. You took my number one spot!
Also probably said some other stupid shit no doubt so apologies for that as well. Should probably take into consideration that there are professionals out there who take pride in their work and have the integrity to respond. Valuable lesson learned for an ignorant internet user with little tech savvy, now who is cringy? lol
Ok got it! The from softy joke where you replied that you get hard, it wasn’t cringy at all. It was brilliant and Cowboy should have acknowledged the joke. He just let it go over his head. Sorry man, I know my solitary view is only a drop in the bucket for you but I appreciate you all the same
Sucks Miyazaki wants to stop directing...nothing but Dark Souls 2 from now on
Where did you read that?
Source?
@@Dracobyte he's just a redditor, ignore him.