@@chris_hertford I always wondered why they left them open, I figured it was in case there was a fire so it could easily be seen and extiguished before it takes hold, never occured to me it was also to prevent theft, cant break in or steal anything if its on show and nothing is in there :D
Anyone who owns tools get a soldering iron and mark the tools. Its quite hard to get rid of say some initials that are deeply marked into the body of the tool.
No its not. If you're the kind of person willing to buy stolen tools worth 1000s for a few hundred quid, another person's initials on the tool isn't going to stop you buying them
@@sregoreel ofcourse people will still exist who buy them but less people will buy them. You can't stop crime but you can deter people from being involved. Also obvious markings make it easier to find your stolen property being sold on the likes of Facebook.
It's easy to fall into that trap. I would rather feel crap than feel like a burden despite always being told that I'm not being one 😅 Love that you're such an advocate of good mental health ❤️🩹
I think it’s a big thing having insurance, especially for your tools. My recent boss got his van nicked and I ended up losing some tools & specially my Unilite Speaker which had saved up and it’s so gutting to lost. Great content Nick & Rhino lnsurance. ⚡️👊
I don’t think banning the sale of second hand tools would work. It wouldn’t necessarily deter people from stealing them as can still sell on black market etc for drugs and so on. What about other things like cars/bikes which get stolen too? Are we going to stop buying anything second hand just because it might be stolen? It’s already illegal to knowingly sell stolen goods. What about house clearances and people who legitimately want to sell their own tools? Just a thought.
Shop around for insυrance. The one promoted here isn't the cheapest. Go to the two main electrical certification bodies, you don't have to be a member to take out their insυrance.
Worked at one place, we got broken into, Director came down and gave me a tool catalogue, said pick tools you want for the company and then date and sign the sheets and we will get them of insurance, even if we didnt have them to start with, i refused its FRAUD, from then on life was difficult there, so i left quickly. Also top tip, buy a newspaper and place all tools one by one with original receipt for expensive stuff, clearly showing newspaper date and tool receipt,or just the tool if you dont have a receipt, showing tool seriel number, and down load to a disc or stick x 2, 1 for your records and 1 for the insurance should you need to make a claim, proves you owned them on that date of newspaper.
I agree that people being banned from genuinely selling their own tools is not an ideal solution. There are many people who either retire, upgrade, change brand Etc who sell their tools on. Then there’s those in need on lower incomes like apprentices or those recovering from a theft of their own. There should either be some sort of serial number register that manufacturers have to adhere to or another way of permanently marking up tools so it’s hard for those markings to be removed.
You are not understanding the problem. It's not to stop the car booter who is getting rid of all his old tools, perhaps clearing his dead Dad's shed. It's to stop the guys who turn up to car boot sales with a van FULL of used power tools. They aren't buying them cheap, refurbing and flipping them, they are flogging off stolen goods, simple as that and it's going on at an industrial scale - go to a car boot sale this weekend and see for yourself. If you have a few old tools, there shouldn't be an issue selling them, correct. If they are not-so-old, and you can maybe show the original purchase receipts (and will give your details to anyone buying them from you, just in case, down the line, Mr Plod suspects they have been stolen), or have registered them online when you bought them etc, making them traceable, there shouldn't be an issue selling them. However, if you only speak, say oooh, Bulgarian, and rock up to a carboot sale you've never been to before, with 4 other geezers, in van with foreign plates, and have 10 x DeWalt Impact drivers, same model, of varying age and condition, (along with 15 x Hammer drills, 7 x Grinders, 12 x Multi-tools, 8 x chopsaws, a ton of spare batteries, etc etc, you get the picture) - there very much SHOULD be an issue being able to sell them for cash at a carboot sale. Of course, if we all stopped buying stuff from the swarthy fellows in the vans, it might slow the market and they'd go back to taking overhead railway cable. We should stand together and resist buying tools which we know are being sold for way less than we'd think they were worth "Hang on, that blokes got a nice Hilti in there and he only wants £50 cash. Sod it, someone else will only buy it, won't they, and I could really do with one. Where's my wallet? Just this once..." How many of you wouldn't have just a quick peep and see what stock they had? We all could do with a cheap back-up for home, just in case, right? THAT is as much the problem as the scrotes who steal and fence the stuff.
@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname TL;DR. I understand the problem, you don't understand the proposal. Quite how you can misunderstand the very plain language used, nobody knows.
The only problem I have with tool insurance is that the value of the tools is depreciated so quickly. I do a lot of different stuff, so I own a lot of different tools, which I don't use daily. Which means that a tool that's three years old, might have only been used for a couple of days in total and be more or less brand spanking new. Or a machine that's over 20 years old, but would still sell for a couple of thousand euros (and hence would cost that kind of money to replace) would only get me scrap value if it would end up in a fire. Which means I'm still going to be out of a lot of money if my stuff would get stolen or damaged. I'd gladly pay a bit more and at least get the money back that I need to replace everything with something that's comparable in quality/age than paying a lower monthly fee and still have to worry if I can build my business back up should something like that happen.
I get what you are saying Nick, I really do and it is shitty that your tools get nicked but banning the sale of second hand tools isn’t really the answer, especially not for diyers or people starting out. Not everyone can afford a brand new tool, all they can afford is some shitty mitre saw or drill that will get the job done. Also, what does a tradesman do when he decides to wind up his business or retire and has thousands worth of tools to sell. Plus you could extend that to any business - can’t sell car parts in case they are stolen, bikes, etc… The problem is with the Police and the law. RUclipsr with a camera outside a police station and there’s 10 of them out at him yet they do nothing for the real crimes that are affecting peoples lives. This is what happens though when there is no competition…
Nick, do you play golf ? Even if you don’t, it never hurts to have a 3 iron by the back door. I use it for a wee bit of swing practice. It’s amazing how quickly that chunk of metal passes through the air.
My problem with the sale of used power tool is people like myself who upgrade every few years what do I do just bin £100s of gear or like when I started with Ryobi bits and then moved over to DeWalt I had £1000 worth of Ryobi gear and I can see eventually I may step up to Milwaukee but if I can sell the DeWalt gear I could never justify the £10000 step up when it comes to a total upgrade. I think rules need to change and 100% for car boots but stuff like eBay and Facebook marketplace they need to be changed and monitored heavily.
I still laugh the the UK still has bare earth that requires sleeving. Ever doing my apprenticeship in NZ, we always had fully insulated earth in our TPS cable. That was 37 years ago.
Every time I am reminded about 'shaving sockets' and putting the light switch on the outside of the bathroom, I think about the fact that electric showers are also common in Britain, and I become confused. 😂
Shaver sockets can go in the bathroom because they have an isolation transformer inside so whatever you plug in is separated from a direct mains connection. Light switches can go in under certain circumstances, but typically just become common to put them outside. Showers can because they are double insulated, have no metal parts that could become live. Really it’s just sockets that can’t because you could put a radio for eg, on the edge of your bath while your in it. However if the socket is 2.5M away from a bath, it can go in the bathroom.
@@Cablesmith Thanks for clarifying! But yes, I was aware of all of the reasons. It's just funny because the rest of the world considers putting a GFCI (RCD) on an outlet in the bathroom enough to mediate the safety issues. No need to have a special socket. In fact, generally it's assumed that people will just run an extension cord to use regular appliances in a bathroom otherwise, so in most North American jurisdictions it's Required to have a GFCI protected outlet within a short distance of the sink to account for that. Anyways, the point I was making was that an electric shower, even if it is installed correctly, should be about the same level of risk as an outlet that's properly protected. But often they're not properly installed, which gives them Way more potential for danger than an outlet on the wall. Just such an interesting juxtaposition to me. What's allowed versus what's not allowed and the seemingly counterintuitive reasoning behind it. Thanks again for the thorough explanation!
@@chaseohara4781 yea don’t get me wrong, a lot of contradictory things in our regulations and stuff that doesn’t make sense or have any real valid points.
@@chaseohara4781 An electric shower is nowhere near the same level of risk as an appliance you hold in your hands during operation, with a thin, flexible cord attached to it. And the protective measures of an electric shower are not known for failing without any outward sign of malfunction.
There is no way to stop the stealing. Regardless what objects, if they are valuable they will get stolen! According to this philosophy we should ban all sales of used items regardless of the type because it’s not fair to ban just on specific type! Why not use Bluetooth tags and make stolen tools database which would help a lot. Also promote this database for used tools buying process. Like we have it with cars and basic check!
Because vehicles have to be made as light as possible for fuel efficiency and not everyone needs or wants a secure vehicle. It's up to you to upgrade to your requirements which is what I've done.
@@chris_hertford Many people use vans for transporting low value items, they don't want the extra cost/weigh penalty that extra security requires. It's also better to customise security to your needs/budget, if all vans were the same any weaknesses would make them all vulnerable and you'd be back to square one.
i might seem stupid but im a trainee spark and with the earthsure cable if you damage the line insulation will it cause a fault to earth im just wondering because the cpc is sleeved
One thing with that. What about the honest people that are sell genuine there own tools. Or want to but cheaper tools as there 2nd hand. And buy of genuine seller? What are they to do? Mayo for Sam 24!
A question for you nick about the tool insurance through rhino, do you have to be a tradey to get a policy. For me its way more personal use but im regestered self employed for odd jobs (universal credit requirement) but can i get a policy to cover my tools even though there more likely to be at home? Obviously like its stated in the video if you dont have recipts its obviously not insurable as such but more the things i have got recipts/paperwork for Sorry for the long one❤
This is for Doncaster cables, why use the name earthsure, when for years we have been told not to use the term earth, but CPC, should it not be CPCsure🤔
Possibly helpful but boring... Each time you buy tools, take a copy of the invoice. One copy goes to the accountant/bookeeper/records and the second can be placed into a "tools file". This way you don't have the aggravation of spending hours going through tax records when you are megger (!) fed up trying to find them all, ensuring the process is far easier and quicker. Furthermore if you are going to sell YOUR OWN TOOLS, you can show/give a copy of the original receipt quickly and easily. Sorry I said it was boring ! Thank you Nick. Keep well....
the petition? It's almost as if a load of people that don't share the values of the people they have been stealing from have suddenly appeared from. . . somewhere. The petition is dealing with the symptom of this, not the cause.
Will they not just sell the tools online? Like eBay list them and sell them in another country? I suppose it make it more difficult to sell, which would be a plus, but what about people who are selling their old tools? And will anyone actually stop selling at sales, etc.? It's an interesting argument anyways.
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You don't need a tool sale ban, you need the cops to do their fn job
Petition has now been cancelled due to the ending of Parliament . Will need to start again after GE
This petition closed early because of a General Election
Its getting to the point where its easier to leave van door open and take the tools out at night. Least they wont knacker the van up
lorry drivers been doing that for years
@@chris_hertford I always wondered why they left them open, I figured it was in case there was a fire so it could easily be seen and extiguished before it takes hold, never occured to me it was also to prevent theft, cant break in or steal anything if its on show and nothing is in there :D
Deuce Bigalow for the reference of parking a bicycle in an aircraft hanger
Used the earthsure for the first time this week. Fantastic. DTR electrical supplies online was as cheap as normal Doncaster cable.
Anyone who owns tools get a soldering iron and mark the tools. Its quite hard to get rid of say some initials that are deeply marked into the body of the tool.
No its not. If you're the kind of person willing to buy stolen tools worth 1000s for a few hundred quid, another person's initials on the tool isn't going to stop you buying them
@@sregoreel ofcourse people will still exist who buy them but less people will buy them. You can't stop crime but you can deter people from being involved. Also obvious markings make it easier to find your stolen property being sold on the likes of Facebook.
What a ridiculous petition
It's easy to fall into that trap. I would rather feel crap than feel like a burden despite always being told that I'm not being one 😅
Love that you're such an advocate of good mental health ❤️🩹
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I think it’s a big thing having insurance, especially for your tools. My recent boss got his van nicked and I ended up losing some tools & specially my Unilite
Speaker which had saved up and it’s so gutting to lost. Great content Nick & Rhino lnsurance. ⚡️👊
Suffered with mental health myself i kept my problems to myself ended up in hospital were i was put on medication you need to talk yes i agree
My ladders got stolen about 3 weeks ago. When reporting it, before I can got off the phone she said case will be closed now 🤦
I don’t think banning the sale of second hand tools would work. It wouldn’t necessarily deter people from stealing them as can still sell on black market etc for drugs and so on. What about other things like cars/bikes which get stolen too? Are we going to stop buying anything second hand just because it might be stolen? It’s already illegal to knowingly sell stolen goods. What about house clearances and people who legitimately want to sell their own tools? Just a thought.
Shop around for insυrance. The one promoted here isn't the cheapest. Go to the two main electrical certification bodies, you don't have to be a member to take out their insυrance.
Worked at one place, we got broken into, Director came down and gave me a tool catalogue, said pick tools you want for the company and then date and sign the sheets and we will get them of insurance, even if we didnt have them to start with, i refused its FRAUD, from then on life was difficult there, so i left quickly.
Also top tip, buy a newspaper and place all tools one by one with original receipt for expensive stuff, clearly showing newspaper date and tool receipt,or just the tool if you dont have a receipt, showing tool seriel number, and down load to a disc or stick x 2, 1 for your records and 1 for the insurance should you need to make a claim, proves you owned them on that date of newspaper.
Well said Sir Nick!
Never going to happen and what about people who legitimately want to sell their own tool?
They'll have one of everything to sell with receipts. Not a van full at a car boot.
@@tombarrett1487 And still, with the proposal as written, they'd not be able to sell them.
Making it illegal for people to sell their own possessions is not the solution.
How about stolen property,
@@paullenton2076 That's already illegal - to steal and to sell. Making it illegal for everyone to sell things won't change that.
I agree that people being banned from genuinely selling their own tools is not an ideal solution. There are many people who either retire, upgrade, change brand Etc who sell their tools on. Then there’s those in need on lower incomes like apprentices or those recovering from a theft of their own. There should either be some sort of serial number register that manufacturers have to adhere to or another way of permanently marking up tools so it’s hard for those markings to be removed.
You are not understanding the problem. It's not to stop the car booter who is getting rid of all his old tools, perhaps clearing his dead Dad's shed. It's to stop the guys who turn up to car boot sales with a van FULL of used power tools. They aren't buying them cheap, refurbing and flipping them, they are flogging off stolen goods, simple as that and it's going on at an industrial scale - go to a car boot sale this weekend and see for yourself.
If you have a few old tools, there shouldn't be an issue selling them, correct. If they are not-so-old, and you can maybe show the original purchase receipts (and will give your details to anyone buying them from you, just in case, down the line, Mr Plod suspects they have been stolen), or have registered them online when you bought them etc, making them traceable, there shouldn't be an issue selling them.
However, if you only speak, say oooh, Bulgarian, and rock up to a carboot sale you've never been to before, with 4 other geezers, in van with foreign plates, and have 10 x DeWalt Impact drivers, same model, of varying age and condition, (along with 15 x Hammer drills, 7 x Grinders, 12 x Multi-tools, 8 x chopsaws, a ton of spare batteries, etc etc, you get the picture) - there very much SHOULD be an issue being able to sell them for cash at a carboot sale.
Of course, if we all stopped buying stuff from the swarthy fellows in the vans, it might slow the market and they'd go back to taking overhead railway cable. We should stand together and resist buying tools which we know are being sold for way less than we'd think they were worth
"Hang on, that blokes got a nice Hilti in there and he only wants £50 cash. Sod it, someone else will only buy it, won't they, and I could really do with one. Where's my wallet? Just this once..."
How many of you wouldn't have just a quick peep and see what stock they had? We all could do with a cheap back-up for home, just in case, right?
THAT is as much the problem as the scrotes who steal and fence the stuff.
@@Mr.MFuckingYTchangedmyname TL;DR. I understand the problem, you don't understand the proposal. Quite how you can misunderstand the very plain language used, nobody knows.
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The only problem I have with tool insurance is that the value of the tools is depreciated so quickly. I do a lot of different stuff, so I own a lot of different tools, which I don't use daily. Which means that a tool that's three years old, might have only been used for a couple of days in total and be more or less brand spanking new. Or a machine that's over 20 years old, but would still sell for a couple of thousand euros (and hence would cost that kind of money to replace) would only get me scrap value if it would end up in a fire. Which means I'm still going to be out of a lot of money if my stuff would get stolen or damaged. I'd gladly pay a bit more and at least get the money back that I need to replace everything with something that's comparable in quality/age than paying a lower monthly fee and still have to worry if I can build my business back up should something like that happen.
the curse added extra feeling, correct editing decision!
also male gigolo, amazing film 👍
I got a couple of 1.5mm.and 2.5mm from Doncaster cable for free and I used it a couple of times I think it's worth it easy to strip too
I get what you are saying Nick, I really do and it is shitty that your tools get nicked but banning the sale of second hand tools isn’t really the answer, especially not for diyers or people starting out. Not everyone can afford a brand new tool, all they can afford is some shitty mitre saw or drill that will get the job done. Also, what does a tradesman do when he decides to wind up his business or retire and has thousands worth of tools to sell. Plus you could extend that to any business - can’t sell car parts in case they are stolen, bikes, etc…
The problem is with the Police and the law. RUclipsr with a camera outside a police station and there’s 10 of them out at him yet they do nothing for the real crimes that are affecting peoples lives. This is what happens though when there is no competition…
Nick, do you play golf ? Even if you don’t, it never hurts to have a 3 iron by the back door. I use it for a wee bit of swing practice. It’s amazing how quickly that chunk of metal passes through the air.
My problem with the sale of used power tool is people like myself who upgrade every few years what do I do just bin £100s of gear or like when I started with Ryobi bits and then moved over to DeWalt I had £1000 worth of Ryobi gear and I can see eventually I may step up to Milwaukee but if I can sell the DeWalt gear I could never justify the £10000 step up when it comes to a total upgrade. I think rules need to change and 100% for car boots but stuff like eBay and Facebook marketplace they need to be changed and monitored heavily.
Shame they don't do any form or roofing repairs etc. Seem nice guys, girl spoke to rhino was lovely
I still laugh the the UK still has bare earth that requires sleeving. Ever doing my apprenticeship in NZ, we always had fully insulated earth in our TPS cable. That was 37 years ago.
Every time I am reminded about 'shaving sockets' and putting the light switch on the outside of the bathroom, I think about the fact that electric showers are also common in Britain, and I become confused. 😂
Shaver sockets can go in the bathroom because they have an isolation transformer inside so whatever you plug in is separated from a direct mains connection.
Light switches can go in under certain circumstances, but typically just become common to put them outside.
Showers can because they are double insulated, have no metal parts that could become live.
Really it’s just sockets that can’t because you could put a radio for eg, on the edge of your bath while your in it. However if the socket is 2.5M away from a bath, it can go in the bathroom.
@@Cablesmith Thanks for clarifying! But yes, I was aware of all of the reasons.
It's just funny because the rest of the world considers putting a GFCI (RCD) on an outlet in the bathroom enough to mediate the safety issues. No need to have a special socket. In fact, generally it's assumed that people will just run an extension cord to use regular appliances in a bathroom otherwise, so in most North American jurisdictions it's Required to have a GFCI protected outlet within a short distance of the sink to account for that.
Anyways, the point I was making was that an electric shower, even if it is installed correctly, should be about the same level of risk as an outlet that's properly protected. But often they're not properly installed, which gives them Way more potential for danger than an outlet on the wall. Just such an interesting juxtaposition to me. What's allowed versus what's not allowed and the seemingly counterintuitive reasoning behind it.
Thanks again for the thorough explanation!
@@chaseohara4781 yea don’t get me wrong, a lot of contradictory things in our regulations and stuff that doesn’t make sense or have any real valid points.
@@chaseohara4781 An electric shower is nowhere near the same level of risk as an appliance you hold in your hands during operation, with a thin, flexible cord attached to it. And the protective measures of an electric shower are not known for failing without any outward sign of malfunction.
@@CablesmithDouble insulated shower? 3M for a socket outlet not 2.5M ?
There is no way to stop the stealing. Regardless what objects, if they are valuable they will get stolen! According to this philosophy we should ban all sales of used items regardless of the type because it’s not fair to ban just on specific type! Why not use Bluetooth tags and make stolen tools database which would help a lot. Also promote this database for used tools buying process. Like we have it with cars and basic check!
Van doors still being made of tin foil, manufacturers need holding to account!
Because vehicles have to be made as light as possible for fuel efficiency and not everyone needs or wants a secure vehicle. It's up to you to upgrade to your requirements which is what I've done.
@@mfx1 can't see many people opting for a less secure vehicle!
@@chris_hertford Many people use vans for transporting low value items, they don't want the extra cost/weigh penalty that extra security requires. It's also better to customise security to your needs/budget, if all vans were the same any weaknesses would make them all vulnerable and you'd be back to square one.
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Hi do rhino insure tools in Republic of Ireland ? Thanks
i might seem stupid but im a trainee spark and with the earthsure cable if you damage the line insulation will it cause a fault to earth im just wondering because the cpc is sleeved
One thing with that. What about the honest people that are sell genuine there own tools. Or want to but cheaper tools as there 2nd hand. And buy of genuine seller? What are they to do? Mayo for Sam 24!
Is it legal to have wired a taser to your van vault with obviously high voltage signage
Only if you get to it before the police in the event of a break-in! What tazer?
A question for you nick about the tool insurance through rhino, do you have to be a tradey to get a policy. For me its way more personal use but im regestered self employed for odd jobs (universal credit requirement) but can i get a policy to cover my tools even though there more likely to be at home? Obviously like its stated in the video if you dont have recipts its obviously not insurable as such but more the things i have got recipts/paperwork for
Sorry for the long one❤
This is for Doncaster cables, why use the name earthsure, when for years we have been told not to use the term earth, but CPC, should it not be CPCsure🤔
Stop being gay
Petition closed.
So your petition to stop sale of second hand power tools?????? WTF
If you repost it after the Election then I will add my mark to the pertition.
Deuce Bigalo!
Just about to say the same 😀
So your also trying to kill the trade of refurbishment of tools and being sold on the secondhand market great job
Oh shut up
Possibly helpful but boring...
Each time you buy tools, take a copy of the invoice. One copy goes to the accountant/bookeeper/records and the second can be placed into a "tools file".
This way you don't have the aggravation of spending hours going through tax records when you are megger (!) fed up trying to find them all, ensuring the process is far easier and quicker. Furthermore if you are going to sell YOUR OWN TOOLS, you can show/give a copy of the original receipt quickly and easily.
Sorry I said it was boring !
Thank you Nick. Keep well....
the petition? It's almost as if a load of people that don't share the values of the people they have been stealing from have suddenly appeared from. . . somewhere. The petition is dealing with the symptom of this, not the cause.
Will they not just sell the tools online? Like eBay list them and sell them in another country? I suppose it make it more difficult to sell, which would be a plus, but what about people who are selling their old tools? And will anyone actually stop selling at sales, etc.? It's an interesting argument anyways.
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