I respectfully disagree. I've never purchased a cigar with perfect humidity in a tube. Or from the majority of retail stores unless they have a really good humidor (not the sliding glass door). Also, temperature is nearly as important as humidity and the tube won't protect it from temp swings and condensation. Season your cigars in your humidor for several months for the best humidity.
Correct. The tubes will help but ultimately the materials are porus including zip lock bags. Also depending on how wet the stick was when it was tubed that can be an issue as well. Essentially an over humidified cigar sealed in the tube. For this reason I personally have found over the years that the worst cigars I've experienced were tubed for long periods of time. You want them to be able to breathe naturally in a larger RH controlled environment for the best flavor, burning and aging conditions IME. I'm sure for someone who just smokes cigars as a goof very infrequently the sealed tubes will preserve them fine enough not to be unsmokeable or anything but though
Im not sure what cigars your buying but I have had 100% success with this method but I have only done this with glass tubes, yes temperature and light can effect storing conditions as well and should have been mentioned in the video, I guess the point of the video is you can store cigars in tubes long term if done correctly
+cutlerylover referring to any and all handmade longfiller cigars. Yeah, tubes will help preserve moisture but that's not necessarily a good thing and certainly not indefinitely. It's pretty well documented among serious long term collectors.
my experience goes back 5 years, I smoked a cigar that was tubed 4 years ago last week and it was perfect so if the guys who have more experience than I do wish toi make videos on the subject I encourage it like anything I can only speak from my own experiences, and yes thats all I buy is premium long filler cigars, and as you would know all quality cigars are sold properly humidified, of course there are some factors as mentioned like a smoke shop not storing properly...I agree with living survival in that if you feel a cigar is not humidified to your liking then you may wish to season it before storing it long term in a tube, but the fact remains an airtight seal will not gain or lose humidity...So if stored at the properly humidity it will be the same when opened years later
Another form of packaging, that is worth mentioning, is foil. I smoked a cigar from the Seventies, that was packaged in foil (also one from the nineties or early 2000s). By the taste alone, one would have bever guessed that these cigars were that old. Foil is great for maintaining aroma. Also, sometimes (kind of rare, though) there were and are cigar boxes wrapped in tight plastic (not cello!). These boxes stand to last a long time as well. Because while cello breathes, plastic doesn't. So it is hermetic. Nice video!
I found that leaving your cigar boxes opened while you shower and closing it after you are done with shower actually does humidify the cigars pretty well. Just let the container burp out the excess humidity by just opening and closing the container from time to time throughout the day, and when you feel like it's got no moisture left in it, repeat the shower methode. And leave the container by the window at night to keep it cool if you don't have collerdors or your place remains farely warm like in California for instance. Obviously it's never ganna be as good and accurate as the Bovedas but in a pinch it did work pretty well for me.
I keep a Boveda 69% humidity pack inside my humidor. I think I got mine for $45 in Canada. Its tiny and cheap but works great. It normally sits around 73% and is a little high but it works fine for me.
73 is REALLY high. anything over 70 really is mold and bug territory. Try going for a lower humidity bodeva packet, or using more of them. Depends on the size of your humidor and how well it seals.
I think the hydrogemter that came with it is off, that is why I say its a little high. It reads 73 but when i did the salt test before seasoning it was around 1.5 off. I havnt had any mold or bugs yet, been about a year. All I get is the white stuff on the wrapper which I forget the name of it, I read online it is fine, just nothing on the ends thats green or blue or pink - thats mold. Or so I have read.
Mold can also appear as a whiteish powdery substance and is almost 100% of the time mistaken for "plume" If it's working good for you, that's great. Is the ambient humidity where you're at pretty high all year round? If that's the case, you may want to look into a large airtight tupperware container with some spanish cedar from broken down cigar boxes inside. These will regulate and hold humidity WAY WAY better than a standard wood humidor, and have the advantage of being super cheap. Just some thoughts, hope they help you out.
Thanks and yea its pretty high during the summer seasons high 90 or 100 most days. During the winter its dry though. Ill have to look into Plume more - thanks for the vocab.
MrLiamCooley Definitely go check out the cigars reddit and look up information on tupperdors. It will do you a LOT of good for sealing extra humidity OUT in the summer, and keeping it in during the winter. I live in northern new-england and have similar climate problems to you. The only way I could keep my humidor cool and at the proper humidity was to keep it in the basement all year round. Now I also have a smaller tupperdor i keep upstairs in my desk drawer. You should be able to keep it closer to that 69-ish level, and with very few packets that will last much longer than they will in a regular wood humidor.
this video was 100% helpful the cigars in the tube I always thought you had to smoke them within a week otherwise they get dryed out and also i heard if they are not stored properly they can unravel when cut
Hey Jeff I just want to let you know that they have a new multi tool lighter at Walmart, it looks like a bic copy with a knife, file, and screwdriver built into it, it's dark blue and black, and it's basically a bic lighter and victorinox classic fused together, it's about $5
cool area, like all tobacco you dont want it too hot or cold, most come in a tin so light doesnt matter much unlike cigars that should not be stored in lit areas too long
Okay, thank you for the reply, my area only carries pouches and bulk bags for the most part, so I've started using mason jars. It seems to work well enough. I didn't know about the light thing, so I guess I'll either find a better storage location or black out the jars.
Good vid, never thought about sealing tubes in wax before. However, I've been experimenting with storing cigars in a large mason jar with ethanol (Everclear) vapor inside to prevent mold growth. Only done one batch so far, but I used too much ethanol and the cigars soaked a lot of it in. Now they taste oddly sweet. Anyone have any idea why that would happen? I can't say that Everclear tastes sweet by default (the cigars I'm using certainly don't), but perhaps it caused some sort of reaction with the tobacco.
Drinking age 21 and smoking age 18, I'm personally not gonna do either because they have damaged a lot of my family members and I don't want to do the same.
Newbie Question: I got a box of Romeos # 2. They came in individually packed tubes which aren't sealed by wax. Are these tubes considered air tight? Can I keep them in the original box and plastic tubes indefinitely?
its a general statement in reply to your suggestion..."Stick with Acids if you like a flavored smoke." you are suggesting if someone likes flavored cigars they will like acids, when acids taste nothing at all like any other flavored cigars so if someone likes flavored cigars that means they either already know what acids taste like or your suggestions means nothing to them since they never tasted something similar...its like saying I was disappointed with pepperoni pizza but if you like pizza you should try mushroom...
cutlerylover i was simply saying one would buy a maker's mark to enjoy the bourbon taste and to me they tasted nothing like that. Most avid cigar smokers don't like flavored cigars of any kind but if you wanted to try a good one I recommend Acids.
You're not missing much. I've had plenty of expensive "infused" cigars. They're either very meh, with very little indication that there is any infusion at all, or they're overpowering and almost like a flavored cigar. Just a gimmick, if you ask me...similar to the Dragon's Milk cigars.
Man I found a makers mark in a suit case from four years ago. It was fabulous btw. Lol why are morons disagreeing with the glass tube. It's a complete seal. Which is also good enough for the $750 gurka
yes, weed or tobacco its still the same there is a preferred moisture level you want, too dry it burns hot and tastes bad, too wet it can get moldy or not stay list very well...
Ill say this, if PA every legalizes it for personal use, I am sure I woudl make a video or 2 however I know for a fact I would not be a pot head again, just doesnt fit my life as an adult at all...
Draven Walsh That is a real wax seal. The "hinge" you see is a tape pull tab under the wax to help you break the wax seal. I just received 10 cigars like this today and they are exactly the same as this.
I respectfully disagree. I've never purchased a cigar with perfect humidity in a tube. Or from the majority of retail stores unless they have a really good humidor (not the sliding glass door). Also, temperature is nearly as important as humidity and the tube won't protect it from temp swings and condensation. Season your cigars in your humidor for several months for the best humidity.
Correct. The tubes will help but ultimately the materials are porus including zip lock bags. Also depending on how wet the stick was when it was tubed that can be an issue as well. Essentially an over humidified cigar sealed in the tube. For this reason I personally have found over the years that the worst cigars I've experienced were tubed for long periods of time. You want them to be able to breathe naturally in a larger RH controlled environment for the best flavor, burning and aging conditions IME. I'm sure for someone who just smokes cigars as a goof very infrequently the sealed tubes will preserve them fine enough not to be unsmokeable or anything but though
Im not sure what cigars your buying but I have had 100% success with this method but I have only done this with glass tubes, yes temperature and light can effect storing conditions as well and should have been mentioned in the video, I guess the point of the video is you can store cigars in tubes long term if done correctly
+cutlerylover referring to any and all handmade longfiller cigars. Yeah, tubes will help preserve moisture but that's not necessarily a good thing and certainly not indefinitely. It's pretty well documented among serious long term collectors.
my experience goes back 5 years, I smoked a cigar that was tubed 4 years ago last week and it was perfect so if the guys who have more experience than I do wish toi make videos on the subject I encourage it like anything I can only speak from my own experiences, and yes thats all I buy is premium long filler cigars, and as you would know all quality cigars are sold properly humidified, of course there are some factors as mentioned like a smoke shop not storing properly...I agree with living survival in that if you feel a cigar is not humidified to your liking then you may wish to season it before storing it long term in a tube, but the fact remains an airtight seal will not gain or lose humidity...So if stored at the properly humidity it will be the same when opened years later
what places do you buy your cigars? I think its common to buy old sticks in most smoke as most places stock way more than they sell regularly...
Another form of packaging, that is worth mentioning, is foil. I smoked a cigar from the Seventies, that was packaged in foil (also one from the nineties or early 2000s). By the taste alone, one would have bever guessed that these cigars were that old. Foil is great for maintaining aroma.
Also, sometimes (kind of rare, though) there were and are cigar boxes wrapped in tight plastic (not cello!). These boxes stand to last a long time as well. Because while cello breathes, plastic doesn't. So it is hermetic.
Nice video!
I had one of those Maker's Marks a while ago and it was fantastic. I really should get a bunch more because I'm bad about keeping my humidor humid.
I found that leaving your cigar boxes opened while you shower and closing it after you are done with shower actually does humidify the cigars pretty well.
Just let the container burp out the excess humidity by just opening and closing the container from time to time throughout the day, and when you feel like it's got no moisture left in it, repeat the shower methode.
And leave the container by the window at night to keep it cool if you don't have collerdors or your place remains farely warm like in California for instance.
Obviously it's never ganna be as good and accurate as the Bovedas but in a pinch it did work pretty well for me.
I live in Georgia and I don't need a humidor because it's always so damn humid already.
been to Atlanta once and yes it was like walking through an invisible pool, lol, but be careful too humid leads to mold too
lol you wanna talk about humidity, I live in Miami Florida. That is humidty
If you do a little research, you'll see they are the same as far as humidity goes.
New Orleans here, be careful can get too humid down here.
I keep a Boveda 69% humidity pack inside my humidor. I think I got mine for $45 in Canada. Its tiny and cheap but works great. It normally sits around 73% and is a little high but it works fine for me.
73 is REALLY high. anything over 70 really is mold and bug territory. Try going for a lower humidity bodeva packet, or using more of them. Depends on the size of your humidor and how well it seals.
I think the hydrogemter that came with it is off, that is why I say its a little high. It reads 73 but when i did the salt test before seasoning it was around 1.5 off.
I havnt had any mold or bugs yet, been about a year. All I get is the white stuff on the wrapper which I forget the name of it, I read online it is fine, just nothing on the ends thats green or blue or pink - thats mold. Or so I have read.
Mold can also appear as a whiteish powdery substance and is almost 100% of the time mistaken for "plume"
If it's working good for you, that's great. Is the ambient humidity where you're at pretty high all year round? If that's the case, you may want to look into a large airtight tupperware container with some spanish cedar from broken down cigar boxes inside.
These will regulate and hold humidity WAY WAY better than a standard wood humidor, and have the advantage of being super cheap.
Just some thoughts, hope they help you out.
Thanks and yea its pretty high during the summer seasons high 90 or 100 most days. During the winter its dry though. Ill have to look into Plume more - thanks for the vocab.
MrLiamCooley Definitely go check out the cigars reddit and look up information on tupperdors. It will do you a LOT of good for sealing extra humidity OUT in the summer, and keeping it in during the winter.
I live in northern new-england and have similar climate problems to you. The only way I could keep my humidor cool and at the proper humidity was to keep it in the basement all year round. Now I also have a smaller tupperdor i keep upstairs in my desk drawer.
You should be able to keep it closer to that 69-ish level, and with very few packets that will last much longer than they will in a regular wood humidor.
this video was 100% helpful the cigars in the tube I always thought you had to smoke them within a week otherwise they get dryed out and also i heard if they are not stored properly they can unravel when cut
yes,also I prefer a punch cut to avoid caps falling off and unraveling...
Hey Jeff I just want to let you know that they have a new multi tool lighter at Walmart, it looks like a bic copy with a knife, file, and screwdriver built into it, it's dark blue and black, and it's basically a bic lighter and victorinox classic fused together, it's about $5
Is it a soft flame lighter or a jet lighter? And is it refillable?
I think it's a disposable soft flame, I'm gonna get one next time I'm there.
What is it called can you remember?
I don't smoke but I love watching these cigar videos.
Captain Dubz feel free subscribe to my channel. Although very new to RUclips I plan bring a new side cigars.
Thanks, been wanting a few fine cigars without the hassle of a humidor, think I will go with the Partagas glass tube.
Go Tupperware, Norm...,
You should do one on "how to fix dried out cigars"
So do you put the aluminum tubos or any other one thats not waxed sealed in the humidor with the cap on or off?
Also, i really like your video's jeff. Thanks alot for making them.
your welcome :)
How do you get the wax off the tube?
Nice video. do you have any experience with Tupperdor`s ?
How about sealing my alluminum tubes with scotch tape instead of wax?
Is there any reason you shouldn't use vacuum sealed mylar bags to store them?
Thanks for another video Jeff. How do you store you're pipe tobacco?
cool area, like all tobacco you dont want it too hot or cold, most come in a tin so light doesnt matter much unlike cigars that should not be stored in lit areas too long
Okay, thank you for the reply, my area only carries pouches and bulk bags for the most part, so I've started using mason jars. It seems to work well enough. I didn't know about the light thing, so I guess I'll either find a better storage location or black out the jars.
if it gets too dry wet a filter and place it in the pouch also if its too wet put a dry filter in the pouch this helps add/take away moisture.!
Good vid, never thought about sealing tubes in wax before. However, I've been experimenting with storing cigars in a large mason jar with ethanol (Everclear) vapor inside to prevent mold growth. Only done one batch so far, but I used too much ethanol and the cigars soaked a lot of it in. Now they taste oddly sweet. Anyone have any idea why that would happen? I can't say that Everclear tastes sweet by default (the cigars I'm using certainly don't), but perhaps it caused some sort of reaction with the tobacco.
Love the vids, don't smoke cigars but would love to see the humidor setup you have.
Excellent video,Jeff!!
All these same rules apply to Marijuana. Smoke it cool, dont roast the bowl. Store it good, dont leave it in a baggy.
I'm 16 so I don't smoke but I still love watching all your vids
Me too
So, 16 year olds aren't allowed to smoke in the U.S.?
Drinking age 21 and smoking age 18, I'm personally not gonna do either because they have damaged a lot of my family members and I don't want to do the same.
Oh I guess I was wrong, I live on the other side of the country and I just googled my state and the law got changed to 21 here also.
+cmdstraker No, it's 18+ in pretty much all civilized countries
Good advice but I would add do not use any scented candle if you plan on waxing your corks or aluminum lids
please give us a tour of your humidor
I see you have a Bobalu sun grown. Good cigar
Newbie Question: I got a box of Romeos # 2. They came in individually packed tubes which aren't sealed by wax. Are these tubes considered air tight? Can I keep them in the original box and plastic tubes indefinitely?
Jon they will dry out.
U can only keep them in there for maximum 2 weeks maybe even 1
How did it turn out?
what about vacuum sealing
Vacuum would dry them out no?
Thought that Maker's Mark was a Gurkah because of that seal. I like flavored cigars so I'll have to try the Maker's Mark.
If you like Maker's Mark don't smoke this cigar. Major let down for me and simply marketing. Stick with Acids if you like a flavored smoke.
I respectfully disagree...acid cigars taste nothing at all like bourbon infused cigars not all infused cigars taste the same...its not comparable
Who said they tasted the same?
its a general statement in reply to your suggestion..."Stick with Acids if you like a flavored smoke." you are suggesting if someone likes flavored cigars they will like acids, when acids taste nothing at all like any other flavored cigars so if someone likes flavored cigars that means they either already know what acids taste like or your suggestions means nothing to them since they never tasted something similar...its like saying I was disappointed with pepperoni pizza but if you like pizza you should try mushroom...
cutlerylover i was simply saying one would buy a maker's mark to enjoy the bourbon taste and to me they tasted nothing like that. Most avid cigar smokers don't like flavored cigars of any kind but if you wanted to try a good one I recommend Acids.
Hey Jeff, are you gonna get the critical duty's?
I dont have them yet but yes down the road Ill add them to the test list
Great vid.
i don't smoke but it looks neat and cool!!😁👌
how much was that maker's mark cigar? i love that bourbon so i neeeed to find these
We get them around here for about $20.
I called a local cigar shop and was told they arent available in canada :(
Shame. When my friend had his first kid I bought us a pair of them.
You're not missing much. I've had plenty of expensive "infused" cigars. They're either very meh, with very little indication that there is any infusion at all, or they're overpowering and almost like a flavored cigar. Just a gimmick, if you ask me...similar to the Dragon's Milk cigars.
I use my oven as a humidor, it keeps a steady temp on hot days and i add some boveda packs for humidity. the poor man's humidor but it works.
Those Partagras sticks are fucking great
I just realized your the guy that did a zippo video. Your voice showed me
Great vid bud thanks
Thx, helpfull info!
Man I found a makers mark in a suit case from four years ago. It was fabulous btw. Lol why are morons disagreeing with the glass tube. It's a complete seal. Which is also good enough for the $750 gurka
"air thight" "sealed" is not 100%. should still be correctly stored
My worst expierience is the wrapper coming loose
Weed ?
Forever, like Jesus is coming back in 2050 so your cigar and you can go to paradise, that forever?
forever as is as long as your alive and probably if your kids find it way after your dead it will be fine to smoke forever
@@cutlerylover 😂
does this work with blunts
yes, weed or tobacco its still the same there is a preferred moisture level you want, too dry it burns hot and tastes bad, too wet it can get moldy or not stay list very well...
Ill say this, if PA every legalizes it for personal use, I am sure I woudl make a video or 2 however I know for a fact I would not be a pot head again, just doesnt fit my life as an adult at all...
Partigus?!. LOL.... Par Tah Gos.
I'm third...
makes me second...
That “wax” sealed tube is fake wax btw, you can see the plastic hinge on the outside smh
Draven Walsh That is a real wax seal. The "hinge" you see is a tape pull tab under the wax to help you break the wax seal. I just received 10 cigars like this today and they are exactly the same as this.
First cool lol
fart..
Shart