This video talks about the construction of the side wall of your Keystone R.V. Porter's RV 971 S. Broadway Coos Bay, OR 97420 800-746-2366 www.portersrv.com
My Keystone Passport GT is a piece of junk. It is a 2021 and is a 2400 RB. Nothing but problems out of it and horrible management and Keystone could care less. This is based on my own personal opinion and experience. I also climbed the back ladder and it broke and they claim I told them it was cracked and then I did it. Not true ! It cracked because of me climbing it and no sticker on it telling the weight limit. I had a warped refrigerator door, warped cabinet door. Both sliding doors coming off the tract. Top of shower coming apart. Sharp edges on some of the wood. The bed was not the original bed. Someone switched it out and the whole bottom of it was ripped. The wood on the right side of the bed was all chewed up. Sawdust still coming out everywhere. Light covers come of everywhere in the camper after you have been on the road. The GE A/C is so loud that you can barely hear the TV. Lot more stuff I found. I find the Director Of Operations rude and unprofessional for Keystone RV. Please buy a Forest River or something else but I would stay away from Keystone RV.
How is the "floating back wall" made up and installed? Got a video outlining that? It's now bulging and pulling out. I need to figure out how to repair it.
And yet there is constant delamination in your industry and products. Time to step it up Keystone and be a leader/trendsetter in your industry. Lead and others will follow.
I'm trying to find the studs in the wall to add a railing to my fifth wheel. I can't seem to find any schematics for the walls in my trailer. Can anybody help me find this information?
Never buy these shitty RVs which use wood in their shitty walls which rot!! The better quality RVs use Azdel which will not rot. Run away from Keystone !
If they're that good, how come my Raptor 423 entry door frames were bowed and the doors were shaped like an hour glass?? Latches and dead bolts couldn't even reach the frames! 9 months to finally get new doors! This is all pure B.S.!!
Ill pass on anything that has a laminated exterior wall. Its your exterior walls that make this thing structurally sound. If it delaminates, its game over. Another kick in the head on this, after you bought your model, its no longer being made. Good luck finding the exterior wall or correcting it yourself. I had an early 80's coachman, 8' x 32'. Gutted it down to frame and built my own. Yes, exterior walls are what holds your friggin rv together, the cabinets hold walls and roof in place. If you miss a stud and drilled into air, guess whats wobbeling down the toad and you dont know it until its to late.. Did my own floor plan, built floor up, walls, roof, cabinets. And it didnt cost me $40,000. Not even close.
I wonder if these people are still there after 7 years. Keystone is now part of the conglomerate with so many other names. My 2016 passport has been okay because it was well cared for, but now that it needs repairs for front cap delamination, corporate is next to useless and the dealers are even worse.
Too bad Luan (lauan) is wood, and crappy wood at that. It's like....not even really actual wood, it's like what wood regurgitated. And in being so, it expands, contracts, swells, and worst of all, absorbs water. Azdel has been around for quite some time now.....not exactly sure why you haven't figured that out yet. Azdel doesn't absorb water, won't rot, won't mold or mildew, it's lighter than wood, (Luan) insulates better than wood, and because of all of those things, your trailer is going to last longer. And you're admitting, and SHOWING the customer, that because it's "wood", it needs to be maintained at a certain humidity level, and not only that, that it ATTRACTS and wants moisture. Azdel is extremely important in my opinion. RV's are rolling earthquakes. Everything shakes, rattles, and gets twisted, pulled, stressed, etc, every single mile you drive. Because of all this.....cracks are inevitable. Cracks in the seals are especially problematic, for obvious reasons. So....for one, cracks are going to happen, which is why everyone needs to routinely inspect their RV's and re-seal the seals every now and then. But......I would say that MOST people do not ever do that. So, when you get those cracks, and you have Luan laminated walls, well.....you're pretty much screwed. You're going to get rot everywhere, and your RV is going to be a pile of crap in no time. You won't have the same problem with Azdel. It does't really matter of Azdel gets wet. It shrugs it off. Sure.....I'm sure there's a reasonable chance that SOME kind of problem could develop, but, nowhere NEAR what it is going to for sure be, with Luan walls. Why even bother trying to "show off" wood walls? I understand Azdel is extremely expensive, but, I won't buy an RV without it.
Keystone crap product, delamination on probably 90% of rigs, tried the customer service, bla bla bla, next stop my local news station, then class action suit. KEYSTONE EQUALS junk!
I would love to go there and teach them about welding for a day because I can see they are doing things wrong. In addition nothing gets by him? He inspects every frame?....lol....yeeeeeeeah
Crappy welding seems to be the standard in trailer house frames. You would think that people who do something day after day would get good at it, but that doesn't appear to apply to people who weld trailer house frames.
Well... your lamination process sucks... The entire back wall of my 2014 Outback has delaminated. Cool story though..... You have a lousy product. Quality appears to be job none.
Yup, pure BS. My 2016 Montana has a wall stud adjacent to the slide that broke at the weld joint. There is a reason airplanes are riveted and not welded; aluminum gains it's strength thru heat treatment, and welding weakens the aluminum dramatically.
My Keystone Passport GT is a piece of junk. It is a 2021 and is a 2400 RB. Nothing but problems out of it and horrible management and Keystone could care less. This is based on my own personal opinion and experience. I also climbed the back ladder and it broke and they claim I told them it was cracked and then I did it. Not true ! It cracked because of me climbing it and no sticker on it telling the weight limit. I had a warped refrigerator door, warped cabinet door. Both sliding doors coming off the tract. Top of shower coming apart. Sharp edges on some of the wood. The bed was not the original bed. Someone switched it out and the whole bottom of it was ripped. The wood on the right side of the bed was all chewed up. Sawdust still coming out everywhere. Light covers come of everywhere in the camper after you have been on the road. The GE A/C is so loud that you can barely hear the TV. Lot more stuff I found. I find the Director Of Operations rude and unprofessional for Keystone RV. Please buy a Forest River or something else but I would stay away from Keystone RV.
I'm here because a stud holding the lower pulleys on a Cable slide system has broken the welds on a wall stud in a Keystone RV.
How is the "floating back wall" made up and installed? Got a video outlining that? It's now bulging and pulling out. I need to figure out how to repair it.
And yet there is constant delamination in your industry and products. Time to step it up Keystone and be a leader/trendsetter in your industry. Lead and others will follow.
I'm trying to find the studs in the wall to add a railing to my fifth wheel. I can't seem to find any schematics for the walls in my trailer. Can anybody help me find this information?
All the reviews I read on them are junk. The recalls and quality finish is a very big issue. Never
Right you are.
Never buy these shitty RVs which use wood in their shitty walls which rot!! The better quality RVs use Azdel which will not rot. Run away from Keystone !
When will Keystone grow up and start using AZDEL? Winnebago is now...............look out Keystone!!!
All brands for that matter. And because they are cheap and want to cheap-out.
If they're that good, how come my Raptor 423 entry door frames were bowed and the doors were shaped like an hour glass?? Latches and dead bolts couldn't even reach the frames! 9 months to finally get new doors! This is all pure B.S.!!
But will it withstand an orange Dodge Charger crashing through it?
Yes it will..
Ill pass on anything that has a laminated exterior wall. Its your exterior walls that make this thing structurally sound. If it delaminates, its game over. Another kick in the head on this, after you bought your model, its no longer being made. Good luck finding the exterior wall or correcting it yourself. I had an early 80's coachman, 8' x 32'. Gutted it down to frame and built my own. Yes, exterior walls are what holds your friggin rv together, the cabinets hold walls and roof in place. If you miss a stud and drilled into air, guess whats wobbeling down the toad and you dont know it until its to late.. Did my own floor plan, built floor up, walls, roof, cabinets. And it didnt cost me $40,000. Not even close.
I wonder if these people are still there after 7 years. Keystone is now part of the conglomerate with so many other names. My 2016 passport has been okay because it was well cared for, but now that it needs repairs for front cap delamination, corporate is next to useless and the dealers are even worse.
Propaganda, that’s all this is. I have a Laredo and what a piece of ---- no quality control, slam them together and make them look nice, sold.
Cannot believe some manufactures would only weld one side of a stud. That is like laughable.
There are four sides of the tubing why is it not welded on all four sides.
How do you insulate the inside of the tubes?? Or are there just lots of cold spots up and down the rv??
yup
For their size and exaggerated R values, RV's need relatively large air conditioners and heaters.
Often Rv’s have a stick of wood inside aluminum tubes, for something to strew to. Not sure if keystone does this.
Too bad Luan (lauan) is wood, and crappy wood at that. It's like....not even really actual wood, it's like what wood regurgitated. And in being so, it expands, contracts, swells, and worst of all, absorbs water. Azdel has been around for quite some time now.....not exactly sure why you haven't figured that out yet. Azdel doesn't absorb water, won't rot, won't mold or mildew, it's lighter than wood, (Luan) insulates better than wood, and because of all of those things, your trailer is going to last longer.
And you're admitting, and SHOWING the customer, that because it's "wood", it needs to be maintained at a certain humidity level, and not only that, that it ATTRACTS and wants moisture.
Azdel is extremely important in my opinion. RV's are rolling earthquakes. Everything shakes, rattles, and gets twisted, pulled, stressed, etc, every single mile you drive. Because of all this.....cracks are inevitable. Cracks in the seals are especially problematic, for obvious reasons. So....for one, cracks are going to happen, which is why everyone needs to routinely inspect their RV's and re-seal the seals every now and then. But......I would say that MOST people do not ever do that.
So, when you get those cracks, and you have Luan laminated walls, well.....you're pretty much screwed. You're going to get rot everywhere, and your RV is going to be a pile of crap in no time. You won't have the same problem with Azdel. It does't really matter of Azdel gets wet. It shrugs it off. Sure.....I'm sure there's a reasonable chance that SOME kind of problem could develop, but, nowhere NEAR what it is going to for sure be, with Luan walls.
Why even bother trying to "show off" wood walls?
I understand Azdel is extremely expensive, but, I won't buy an RV without it.
Who makes rvs with azdel?
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I went Pocono RV and the salesman said these are high quality RVs! He wants to sell us a 27ft Outback for 33k! Good deal?
I own aLarado by Keystone . Happy
I just ordered a Keystone Laredo 280rb. I like keystone products . Laredo’s get great reviews
Sorry
Good luck with that......SUCKEEEEEEEEEEEER
крутые усы!
What is the thickness of the aluminum tubing? Someone please help.
Probably not more than 1/16 and for sure nothing past 1/8""
Thanks!
The walls on my $60,000 Keystone Impact are delaminating and the floors are rotten. Great product.....in China
Keystone crap product, delamination on probably 90% of rigs, tried the customer service, bla bla bla, next stop my local news station, then class action suit. KEYSTONE EQUALS junk!
I would love to go there and teach them about welding for a day because I can see they are doing things wrong. In addition nothing gets by him? He inspects every frame?....lol....yeeeeeeeah
Crappy welding seems to be the standard in trailer house frames. You would think that people who do something day after day would get good at it, but that doesn't appear to apply to people who weld trailer house frames.
I’m surprised your routing department isn’t wearing any face masks, I’m sure they love coughing up all that fiberglass
Well... your lamination process sucks... The entire back wall of my 2014 Outback has delaminated. Cool story though..... You have a lousy product. Quality appears to be job none.
Yup, pure BS. My 2016 Montana has a wall stud adjacent to the slide that broke at the weld joint. There is a reason airplanes are riveted and not welded; aluminum gains it's strength thru heat treatment, and welding weakens the aluminum dramatically.
Pure junk