Never heard of a beef between SOM and KRS. Two different levels. I'm from East Oakland, grew up off both. Casual is dope. I remember when they filmed the video for "That's How It Is", at that liquor store that was on 96th and MacArthur. John (Casual) was the street dude out of the Hieroglyphics camp. He directed a few of my cousins videos. 93 til infinity is one of the GOAT productions. Man I remember when Jason Kidd was a senior at St Joe's in Alameda. We went to the game at the Oakland coliseum. After the game, it was a brawl between Hiero and some dudes from 82nd Ave "The Hill". We looked up, damn near every door on the coliseum opened with niggas yelling, "Hiero" running out. them dudes was DEEP 😂 Good times man that was so long ago. I'm 43 now man got crazy memories of back home
That was lees liquor store. I remember hearing about that fight I was in the 10th grade at skyline at the time. I do know from being for real friends with some Hiero members they thought frisco disco line was a jab at them.
@@donkee9 so long ago man. Saafir used to post up in from of Jim's Liquor on 82nd ave. when i was a tech i did a job at his house on 98th ave, just before he became confined to a wheelchair. i remember walking down 82nd and Mac. this was right after 93 til infinity dropped. i heard this dude ask his homeboy "you ever heard of NAS"? when my cousins lived on Sterling, way up the 82nd hill, casual used to stop by my cousin Apple's crib. been around hip hop for some years. god bless our memories
Yeah, Future Development is one of the greatest albums ever for me. Pep Love is also one of my favorite artists. Hiero definitely boasts some heavyweights
I'm glad he said that in the beginning. I never knew they were related, but the way he was speaking and his looks; I was like, "Is he related to KRS-1?"
everytime i watch one of your vids i feel like im 12 y.o. again playing nintendo with friends who are no longer here. its one of the only times i can think of them and smile, its like they are here watching with me. i can remember the jokes, the days we bought certain albums at the spot on 18th street, the wise cracks, the moments when one of us figured out a line that we couldnt understand, the girls we messed with and the songs that were on.... cancer almost took me to join them but im recently cancer free(!!!) and i find myself reminiscing a lot. sorry for the rant i just wanted to say thanx for the memories. the music and the moments are in a quantum entanglement that cant ever be separated.
DJ KENNY PARKER! After watching this video a particular lyric comes to mind: As Q-Tip said "Will never waste no time on a played out ego". One thing that keeps me coming back to this channel is your GENUINE personality and mindset... and you made some bangin beats so that makes 2 things as I always admired artists who could make nice beats.. Hieroglyphics crew made a lot of beats for each other. That is what made me gravitate to them. Once again MASSIVE RESPECT! to YOU! DJ Kenny Parker.. you can't miss.
Shoutout to Kenny. Never heard about that beef. I love when KRS said he sees who is in the top ten and writes a rhyme to battle each one!! Nobody will battle KRS because they would get bodied!!
Thank you for sharing this Kenny. KRS is my my fav EMCEE and Hiero is my fav crew in HIPHOP. Never heard about this before.🤔 Casual was all about the braggadocio. That’s how it was and that’s how it is yo!😆 Peace Kenny.
@@jamalgray8694 "...You done let me down Cause I thought you would be dope, but instead Your shit's dead; You gets fed To the alligators lurking in the moat Peep what I wrote You bit so hard, I thought the shit was a quote..."
I recently saw that Casual interview where they took KRS line Frisco Disco line as a diss. Casuals Ain’t my Fault and KRS Hip hop vs Rap were both fire back in spring 94. Had them both taped off the radio. Great hip hop back then. These stories are incredible
I was a Chapter Leader for the Universal Zulu Nation in DC in 1993. I remember going up to a Baltimore club one night with some other Zulus to see a show that featured BDP and Souls of Mischief. I don't remember who else was on the bill. It was jam packed. Baltimore had a heavy underground Hip Hop scene and a lot of MC's came that night wanting to battle KRS. Some guys were even shouting from the audience and trying to get the attention of KRS to battle. After the show, I remember being back stage and KRS, Souls of Mischief and some local cats engaged in a cypher right then and there! It was dope. A bunch of freestylin' and back and forth but I don't remember there being any bad blood.
I'm from the Bay. Casual was always that dude. He battled everyone in the Bay. Casual vs Hobo Junction was a classic. This seems like the classic miscommunication beef. Where all it would take is one face to face convo to fix. There is mad amounts of love between NYC and The Bay. All the way back to when DJ Latin Prince started spinning Hip Hop in the Bay. Or when DJ Kevvy Kev and The Wake Up Show were the first to bring Wu Tang out to the West Coast.
I remember the Hiero VS Hobo JCT KMEL battle. Saafir was nice with it too. Friends from the West had that battle recorded on tape, visited Mississippi and let me dub that iconic moment. Still have that on High Bias cassette. Definitely a classic.
@@hugh_jasso Me too... I was probably the only one in MISSISSIPPI bumpin "Boxcar Sessions". I remember that interlude Saafir did on "Fear Itself" and copped the album strictly off of that and was not disappointed.
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 Saafir was always nice with it. He has a long history out here. Shock G put him under his wing around the same time as 2Pac. There are some hilarious stories of Saafir and 2Pac going at it on the tour bus while touring the chitlin' circuit. Mississippi is right through there. That circuit brought a lot of Bay Area artists out there. So you always find random E40, Mac Dre, Heiro, and Too Short fans out in the South. Respect.
@@emceeunderdogrising I learned about Hieroglyphics through the song "Burnt" by Del. I bought Del's albums and singles and that b Side was my introduction to the Hiero crew.
Wow! I’d totally forgotten about this story even being a thing. Casual definitely had a unique flow and I was a fan of Souls and Heiro in general but nothing like my total love for KRS. Once again Kenny, you have cracked the vault of my old memory and given me some mad reminiscing from a great era in Hip Hop and my life. Love the work and keep it up! ✌🏻🇦🇺
So honest and righteous and of course up in the mix, you just got a subscriber of one video, which is a first for me to subscribe on one video, but love the love and the real history and honesty of reaction a spitting from the hip the hoopa it just don't stoppa
The Stretch Arm remix to " that how it is " for me was better than the albums version but......Cas had SO MUCH FLOW. The " golden era " was truly golden because there was SO MUCH balance coming from both coast, you could really see how that era of young black people had REALLY been inspired and influenced by the previous era's because we were the same....DOPE!
The frisco disco reference may be a double entendre...he coulda been speaking on the frisco fisco break beat but at the same time throwing a shot a casual as well cause thats what emcees do! 😂
C'mon Kenny, why you making us wait so long for these stories man?! You need to hit us once or twice a week brother! Anyway, another great one. I never knew there was any beef with Hiero & KRS. Kris is the greatest MC of all time in my book and Hiero are hands down the nicest mc's I have EVER met! Peace & Love to both camps.
Kenny Parker, you're right, BDP had a lot of beefs through the years. And thanks to your channel I'm discovering beefs that I NEVER heard of and getting insight on those that I did. Thanks, Brother. It's refreshing to hear stories from a lucid mind about a group that I've enjoyed.
I think this story deserves an update from Kenny Parker as to whether or not The Blastmaster was talking about them. If he doesn’t then that’s when we lost!!
I really enjoyed this video. Found it entertaining & informative. But also, I would have liked to have heard some sort of mention about how “Souls of Mischief” sampled KRS-One for the hook on their first single. Also, “Souls of Mischief” will be performing at Brooklyn Monarch on June 19. KENNY - You should come through.
Never heard about this 'beef' before. I rocks with KRS and Cas, but Cas is reaching here. Preciate and respect both for being stewards of the culture 👑
I think Casual mistook the Krs "Frisco Disco" line from Hip Hop VS Rap song. It wasn't directed at them. It was most likely directed at Paris for his "I'm not pro human cuz all humans aint pro black" line directed at Krs' humanist approach
Just saw SoM last week live in Lisbon. They got younger! Anyway, who's chillin' around the land, y'know? Yo, who's chillin'? I think I know who's chillin' Yeah, tell me who's chillin' then, Plus Casual - you know he's chillin'
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Hieroglyphics Crew don't get the respect they deserve , very underrated in my opinion
absolutely that documentary opened my eyes to how many popular rappers loved them.
I still want to punch Rick Ross in the throat for sampling Hiero but he gave a shout out to Mac Dre RIP
Never heard of a beef between SOM and KRS. Two different levels. I'm from East Oakland, grew up off both.
Casual is dope. I remember when they filmed the video for "That's How It Is", at that liquor store that was on 96th and MacArthur.
John (Casual) was the street dude out of the Hieroglyphics camp. He directed a few of my cousins videos.
93 til infinity is one of the GOAT productions.
Man I remember when Jason Kidd was a senior at St Joe's in Alameda. We went to the game at the Oakland coliseum. After the game, it was a brawl between Hiero and some dudes from 82nd Ave "The Hill".
We looked up, damn near every door on the coliseum opened with niggas yelling, "Hiero" running out. them dudes was DEEP
😂
Good times man that was so long ago. I'm 43 now man got crazy memories of back home
That was lees liquor store. I remember hearing about that fight I was in the 10th grade at skyline at the time. I do know from being for real friends with some Hiero members they thought frisco disco line was a jab at them.
@@donkee9 so long ago man. Saafir used to post up in from of Jim's Liquor on 82nd ave. when i was a tech i did a job at his house on 98th ave, just before he became confined to a wheelchair.
i remember walking down 82nd and Mac. this was right after 93 til infinity dropped. i heard this dude ask his homeboy
"you ever heard of NAS"?
when my cousins lived on Sterling, way up the 82nd hill, casual used to stop by my cousin Apple's crib.
been around hip hop for some years. god bless our memories
@@larryburks-rk1yn I didn’t know Apple but my potna dame knew him cuz he stayed on Sterling too.
Heiro is wildly underrated as a collective.
Del is definitely in my top-5 rappers all time.
Yeah, Future Development is one of the greatest albums ever for me. Pep Love is also one of my favorite artists. Hiero definitely boasts some heavyweights
Del is definitely the stand out from there Clique.
Opio's definitely my favorite. Triangulation Station, to me, is one of the dopest standout solo albums.
Casual "I Didn't Mean To". Both groups are legendary
I'm glad he said that in the beginning. I never knew they were related, but the way he was speaking and his looks; I was like, "Is he related to KRS-1?"
everytime i watch one of your vids i feel like im 12 y.o. again playing nintendo with friends who are no longer here. its one of the only times i can think of them and smile, its like they are here watching with me. i can remember the jokes, the days we bought certain albums at the spot on 18th street, the wise cracks, the moments when one of us figured out a line that we couldnt understand, the girls we messed with and the songs that were on....
cancer almost took me to join them but im recently cancer free(!!!) and i find myself reminiscing a lot. sorry for the rant i just wanted to say thanx for the memories. the music and the moments are in a quantum entanglement that cant ever be separated.
CONGRATULATIONS..
Great testimony! God Bless and thanks for watching.
@@djkennyparker ty very much to both of you :)
💯❤️✊🏾 Peace & One Love Kenny !! Thanks !! Have a good weekend 😎
Thanks!!
Props and Respect to Hiero 👊 definite West Coast Hip Hop Legend’s……Hip Hop Heads know this, fr fr 💯👊
@@rogerrice5325 yes sir 👊
DJ KENNY PARKER! After watching this video a particular lyric comes to mind: As Q-Tip said "Will never waste no time on a played out ego". One thing that keeps me coming back to this channel is your GENUINE personality and mindset... and you made some bangin beats so that makes 2 things as I always admired artists who could make nice beats.. Hieroglyphics crew made a lot of beats for each other. That is what made me gravitate to them. Once again MASSIVE RESPECT! to YOU! DJ Kenny Parker.. you can't miss.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Love seeing all the mutual respect from such legends from both coast. Hiero Head Til' Im Dead (***) ♥💛💚
93 till!!! Much love and respect to the real... hip hop hip hop hip hop
Shoutout to Kenny. Never heard about that beef. I love when KRS said he sees who is in the top ten and writes a rhyme to battle each one!! Nobody will battle KRS because they would get bodied!!
I don't know if it was an actual thing, but I rock with Krs and Hieroglyphics!
💯💯💯💯💯
Me, too. Both camps represent true Hip Hop.
And I've seen both camps live.
Thank you for sharing this Kenny. KRS is my my fav EMCEE and Hiero is my fav crew in HIPHOP. Never heard about this before.🤔
Casual was all about the braggadocio.
That’s how it was and that’s how it is yo!😆
Peace Kenny.
Great story! Going to see Souls of Mischief in Brooklyn this coming June, can’t wait
Love Casual and KRS-One. That's how it is had one of the best opening verses I've ever heard in Hip-Hop in my own 33 years of consuming hip-hop.
Casual wqs nice too.
"I write raps, and when n¡gg@$ bite I clap, cause they $#¡t sound betta now..."
@@jamalgray8694 🔥
@@jamalgray8694
"...You done let me down
Cause I thought you would be dope, but instead
Your shit's dead;
You gets fed
To the alligators lurking in the moat
Peep what I wrote
You bit so hard, I thought the shit was a quote..."
People forget how wild the Jive roster was for talented, top tier emcees, groups and producers
I recently saw that Casual interview where they took KRS line Frisco Disco line as a diss. Casuals Ain’t my Fault and KRS Hip hop vs Rap were both fire back in spring 94. Had them both taped off the radio. Great hip hop back then. These stories are incredible
Thanks!
Hieroglyphics Crew you don't stop!
I was a Chapter Leader for the Universal Zulu Nation in DC in 1993. I remember going up to a Baltimore club one night with some other Zulus to see a show that featured BDP and Souls of Mischief. I don't remember who else was on the bill. It was jam packed. Baltimore had a heavy underground Hip Hop scene and a lot of MC's came that night wanting to battle KRS. Some guys were even shouting from the audience and trying to get the attention of KRS to battle. After the show, I remember being back stage and KRS, Souls of Mischief and some local cats engaged in a cypher right then and there! It was dope. A bunch of freestylin' and back and forth but I don't remember there being any bad blood.
Nice!
KRS ONE STILL THE BEST MC EVEN TODAY IN MY BOOK
I personally know Casual...and ive never known him to lie
Heiro was so fkn dope!! Damn those was the good years
Heiro were a bunch of HS kids at the time too.
Casual from heiro is a real G 🙌💯💪
The Bronx Loves The Town, and I’m sure it’s mutual
More videos Kenny! Can't get enough
Your doing a great job with channel/ much respect.. waiting 4 the audio book
Respect!!!!1
Peace ✌🏿 Peace ✌🏿 Xtra Strength Shout Out To The Hieroglyphics Big Respect 🫡 To The Bay!
Casual was dope
Thank u Kenny Parker !!
Weighing out every and all sides !!
That's wat i still love about NYC !!!
Thanks for watching! I try to be as objective as possible.
I'm from the Bay. Casual was always that dude. He battled everyone in the Bay. Casual vs Hobo Junction was a classic.
This seems like the classic miscommunication beef. Where all it would take is one face to face convo to fix.
There is mad amounts of love between NYC and The Bay. All the way back to when DJ Latin Prince started spinning Hip Hop in the Bay. Or when DJ Kevvy Kev and The Wake Up Show were the first to bring Wu Tang out to the West Coast.
I was prolly the only nicca in my hood banging Saafir's Boxcar Sessions
I remember the Hiero VS Hobo JCT KMEL battle. Saafir was nice with it too. Friends from the West had that battle recorded on tape, visited Mississippi and let me dub that iconic moment. Still have that on High Bias cassette. Definitely a classic.
@@hugh_jasso Me too... I was probably the only one in MISSISSIPPI bumpin "Boxcar Sessions". I remember that interlude Saafir did on "Fear Itself" and copped the album strictly off of that and was not disappointed.
@@fredicagoillanoise1309 Saafir was always nice with it. He has a long history out here. Shock G put him under his wing around the same time as 2Pac. There are some hilarious stories of Saafir and 2Pac going at it on the tour bus while touring the chitlin' circuit. Mississippi is right through there. That circuit brought a lot of Bay Area artists out there. So you always find random E40, Mac Dre, Heiro, and Too Short fans out in the South. Respect.
@@emceeunderdogrising I learned about Hieroglyphics through the song "Burnt" by Del. I bought Del's albums and singles and that b Side was my introduction to the Hiero crew.
Thank you for the knowledge appreciate this.
Wow! I’d totally forgotten about this story even being a thing. Casual definitely had a unique flow and I was a fan of Souls and Heiro in general but nothing like my total love for KRS. Once again Kenny, you have cracked the vault of my old memory and given me some mad reminiscing from a great era in Hip Hop and my life. Love the work and keep it up! ✌🏻🇦🇺
Thanks!
Great Job! Love the history lesson!
Thanks!
I’m waiting patiently for the KRS vs Nelly beef story. The people need to know
Word!!!!
That been came out on one of them beef documentaries.
@@geraldford9266 I know. But I’d like to hear Kenny’s perspective
From the Still #1 song
That wasn't a beef...Nelly had no chance, he's no legend, not even a contender. 1 album wonder 👎👎👎...🤡💩
Always humble. Thank you Kenny Parker
Big up DJ Kenny Parker. I love these stories.
Thanks!
So honest and righteous and of course up in the mix, you just got a subscriber of one video, which is a first for me to subscribe on one video, but love the love and the real history and honesty of reaction a spitting from the hip the hoopa it just don't stoppa
Thank you!!!!
Loved it, more por favor!
Awesome you did a video I asked for!!!
Ah yes! You were the one who made the request. Thanks
Ah yes! You were the one who made the request. Thanks
@@djkennyparker thank you 🙏 for making the video. I’m glad it’s all love still!!! Between two great camps.
Love these
Casual was and still is a beast! Smash Rockwell
Shalawam House of Israel!👋❤️🙏🏿
Dope one legend DJ Kenny Parker!! #CA2NYrespect
Nothing but GEMS 💎💎💎💎💎
Casual was the Hieroglyphics' bully. Cas would serve ANYBODY!!
Except Saafir ig 😂
great video, you should interview Casual to chop it up for a few and other folks in compilation style interviews or something @DJ Kenny Parker
You ever stop & think, 'my brother gets into too much shit"?
LOL..
LOL!!!
The Stretch Arm remix to " that how it is " for me was better than the albums version but......Cas had SO MUCH FLOW. The " golden era " was truly golden because there was SO MUCH balance coming from both coast, you could really see how that era of young black people had REALLY been inspired and influenced by the previous era's because we were the same....DOPE!
Oh yeah.. I heard about this. Souls Of MIschief, Casual, DeL.. those are my dudes. I have so many CD's form them.
The frisco disco reference may be a double entendre...he coulda been speaking on the frisco fisco break beat but at the same time throwing a shot a casual as well cause thats what emcees do! 😂
Heiro is not even from san Francisco. Casual was high!
Another dope vid!
Thanks!
C'mon Kenny, why you making us wait so long for these stories man?! You need to hit us once or twice a week brother!
Anyway, another great one. I never knew there was any beef with Hiero & KRS. Kris is the greatest MC of all time in my book and Hiero are hands down the nicest mc's I have EVER met! Peace & Love to both camps.
The teacher and the students. Love em both 💯
Kenny Parker, you're right, BDP had a lot of beefs through the years. And thanks to your channel I'm discovering beefs that I NEVER heard of and getting insight on those that I did. Thanks, Brother. It's refreshing to hear stories from a lucid mind about a group that I've enjoyed.
Thanks for listening! I appreciate the kind words. There are WAY more beefs I haven't mentioned yet.
peace&blessings DJ Kenny Parker 💯💯💯 #hiphop #BX #Jersey
Hiero 4 life!!! "Thats when ya lost"
Thanks for the clarity. It was not a real beef. It was just about respect, none given none taken. It was all JIVE.
Casual and Del were my favorites out the whole crew. I totally forgot about this beef
Del still spits🔥🔥
I LOVE that "Hip Hop vs Rap" song. THE GODS MUST BE CRAZY!
KRS-ONE dissing NWA talking about "Thanks to some jericurl rappers for bringing the word "Nigga" back...can you talk about that?
I think this story deserves an update from Kenny Parker as to whether or not The Blastmaster was talking about them. If he doesn’t then that’s when we lost!!
Haaaa I see what you did there
Zing! 🤣
I already knew casual was a huge krs fan.All hiero was. All of us was in the bay.
I really enjoyed this video. Found it entertaining & informative. But also, I would have liked to have heard some sort of mention about how “Souls of Mischief” sampled KRS-One for the hook on their first single. Also, “Souls of Mischief” will be performing at Brooklyn Monarch on June 19. KENNY - You should come through.
Thanks for watching. I'll try to come through.
Oh shit! A beef I never heard about!!
93 'til Infinity 🖖🏻🤘🏻✌🏼👋🏻
Never heard about this 'beef' before. I rocks with KRS and Cas, but Cas is reaching here. Preciate and respect both for being stewards of the culture 👑
Law and GRACE ...awesome ❤
I just seen krs in Manchester uk few week later souls/heiro. both absolutely killa but krs was vicious performance much love to both..big up KP
I LOVE when a B-side is better than the A-side and y'all had more than one of those, KP! ⏺️
What about KRS-1 vs Kool Rock Steady from Chicago 🤣🤣🤣
Appreciate this one. 94 Rap/Hip-Hop ish…
Thanks!
I think Casual mistook the Krs "Frisco Disco" line from Hip Hop VS Rap song. It wasn't directed at them. It was most likely directed at Paris for his "I'm not pro human cuz all humans aint pro black" line directed at Krs' humanist approach
What's good I'm enjoying you stories peace .
Thanks!
Dope stories. I never knew about this beef. What about X Clan vs Krs One or Krs & Wise Intelligent
Love KRS and Casual... All dope heads! Hiero is still the real deal. Much Love!
Good Hip-Hop isn't dead. Amazing.
Maybe your version of “good hiphop” 🤷🏾♂️
Hey man like it or not your a hip hop legend❤
Thanks
Great story!
Lol I would of loved to see a Casual freestyle battle vs. KRS. I sincerely doubt it would of went as smooth as his Saafir battle.
"Rewind it, rewind it, that nigga dissin', LISTEN. Rewind it, rewind it" - Op
Soul For Real. Loved that joint.
He said hello and hi
don't remember any of this, but it's all love from my vantage point. just an interesting interaction in history
Can you do a video on KRS One's breath control and writing exercises?
❤️
💯
Hyro is dope ..one of the few West Coast groups we knocked on the East from day one
I agree
THE RHYME ON 'HIP HOP VS RAP' DIDN'T EVEN GO LIKE THAT, LOL..
"FRISCO DISCO THE DISC IS LIKE A NABISCO CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIE, DON'T FUKK WIT ME ROOKIE"..
@@2020TYBO "THE DISC is like a Nabisco..." plus they wasn't even from 'Frisco, Casual WAS being sensitive, Kris wadn't thinking about Caz
@@bOmBAsTiK
CORRECT, THO THE FRISCO PART WAS WHERE THE CONVENTION WAS AT..
I met casual in brooklyn.hes hella Cool.
im going to add this video to sum instrumentals / it sound so soog over this jdilla mix rn please try it
I liked his song "I didn't mean to"
HE IS THE BATTLE MC 🖖🏻🤘🏻✌🏼👋🏻
GOOD LOOKING KENNY!
kenny is a great story teller
Thanks!
🤜🏿💥💎💥🤛🏿
Krs one vs Tim Westwood story please Kenny.
Ha! I might have to let KRS answer that one.
Just saw SoM last week live in Lisbon. They got younger! Anyway, who's chillin' around the land, y'know?
Yo, who's chillin'? I think I know who's chillin' Yeah, tell me who's chillin' then, Plus Casual - you know he's chillin'
"DISCO AIRLINES" aka Frisco Disco
Hello Kenny, can you talk about the problems occurred inside the BDP crew with Ms. Melodie, Manager Moe, and other members??