Hi there mate. I've been spray plastering for 2yrs now after doing a course and investing in the same set up you were using. I'm a drywall taper to trade and I can tell you it will make you money. I would say about 80% of my work is now spray plastering and the rest is taping. Most of my work is now spray plastering over artex ceilings and nine times out of ten the client wants their whole house done. With this system you can just spray directly on, no bonding to be done, you can get three coats on in a day easy if it's a heavy texture your working over, and get a decent sander like a Mirca Leros connected to a good extractor there is very minimal dust. Its so much cleaner, easier and faster than traditional plastering. Go for it mate it's a no brainer!
Hi Duncan, yes working in people's houses is no problem. You just cover all furniture with dust sheets just as you would do if you were painting. This system is so much cleaner than traditional plastering and the dust off the sanding down is absolutely minimal as long as you have a good sander connected to a good extractor.
I invested in the airless system as it seemed alot easier on the body. But after about 2 years I sold the lot. This system is designed for large projects and I wanted to see how it worked for myself on small domestic jobs. It was to much of a hassle for me in the end and I went back to traditional methods.
This is very interesting. I could imagine that being the case to be honest - I'd only use it for big projects but it's interesting to hear your feedback. Cheers mate... hope you're well 👍
@Some Words all you need is 20 bags of plaster a bucket and trowel and start drinking 3 special brew for breakfast. Well done you are a qualified plasterer 🤣
Great video, many thanks. Need another video at suitable point on costs and maintenance of the machine. What goes wrong and how easy to fix, which bits might need replacement etc. etc. Thanks again.
Hi blaine..good effort for your first lesson! I'm a polished plasterer by trade (venetian/marmorino)..we use many types of trowels flexi or cut down etc, but starting to feel some aches and pains after all these years (55yo)..and plaster spraying has always sounded appealing..loving the simplicity of it...
Thank you mate! I want to get into the Polished plastering so that's my next course I'm looking into - I'm excited about that! I think you'll love this Spray Plastering them pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners you will love the polished plaster...so many styles u just need abit more elbow grease for some of the finishes lol...good luck and keep up the good work😎👍🏻
We’ve been spray plastering for about 3 years. I use a Graco APX. Once you’ve got the hang of it it’s a doddle. Over Artex, wallpaper and bad walls. Easy, quick and no mist coat when painting. It is amazing for large works but we also use it for domestic work. I reckon it’s a winner👍
Hi Blaine. I've been watching your videos plastering for beginners and I've learned a lot from you. Thanks . I watched the air spray plaster .yeah I am impressed but to be honest I felt like something was missing. There's a lot of joy in plastering the old way .all the skills in working with the tools from scratch there's a lot of joy in that .to see the end product using the tools of the trade nothing will beat that . Old school rules . I love watching your videos especially when you have a tea break. 🤣 LOL . I'm not a plasterer but by watching your videos I gained a lot of confidence and I plastered my bathroom don't get me wrong I appreciate the guys that served there time in learning there trade . But once again a BIG THANKS. I'll keep watching your videos.
We’ve been using this graco mark V for level 5 drywall finishes for the last 5 years here in USA . We do commercial construction like hotels etc. We blow out 300+ yards per day no problem. We love it! Superior finishes
This is def the future I’d recommend getting some spatulas loads quicker. We mainly do big commercials sites & high end new builds with it. Main contractors love it as it’s far less snagging & they don’t have to pay patchers to patch the multi finish up. It’s a no brainer really
I use the same plaster in Poland for finishing we roll it on and skim it flat 2 coats. Usually one rolls and the other skims depending on the temp we can get 5 full rooms done in a day, we use Halogen lamps on the wall while working it to.get a better finish. Always some.sanding to do the next day or so. Thanks for the video always good to see what is out there 👍
your basically taping and jointing the full room minus the sanding but that had already previously be done and sanded down over the joints before you even began MADNESS
We had a go with this on some eco houses 10 years ago. Only worth getting out if you have massive areas to do. Nowhere stocked it at the time so committed to buying by the pallet. We covered around 100m2 per day but you still have to tape and fill all joints before spraying. Great for the right application. We had 6 metre ceiling heights so my mate pushed me round on an aluminium tower whilst I sprayed!! Lots of fun!
Impressive. We call this Level 5 drywall in the states. Most people wouldn’t except this is “hardcoat” or plaster, but I think it’s as good or better aesthetically.
This system was new in Poland about 8/10 years ago, they only forgotten to say that is only to cover flat surface, any holes you will need to fill and sand before spraying.... Maybe try show how much easier is applying filler with roller 😉 much easier and you doesn't have to invest ££££ in tooling. Can't wait for future videos. 👍👍👍
In case anyone is using this video to teach themselves.. @ 5:36 "basically turn it off" is not going to cut it - the machine will remain under pressure even if it is turned off! When you take a break, you need switch the unit from "Spray" to "Prime", using the pressure relief valve. Before that you will want to reduce the pressure to zero using the main pressure dial.
Being a plasterer myself, have never tried sprayed skimming, I have only done spray render which is definitely worth it but for spray skimming I don’t see how it’s feasible, would be nice to see a photo of paintable sprayed skim :)
In my opinion the sprayed plaster finishes way better than traditional gypsum plaster when painted. Also takes less time to decorate as no list coat required. Tradional plaster is a harder finish for sure and is easier to flatten off and work with but doesn't look as good when fully finished imo
For myself this is frecking great. I'm into alternative living and with that comes alternative materials such as gob building which you can make some fantastic shapes out of. Spray plaster in this instance would work a charm. Thanks for uploading bud.
That didn’t seem too difficult I hop. I think the main thing is the time taken for preparation and the cleaning up process afterwards, thanks for sharing this video!
That is a sweet rig I used to spray mud to fix messed up hotel walls with a mark 5 but did not have a hopper he just got to be careful that thicker than paint it'll take fingers off
Thanks for uploading this mate. Great video and smart design. *I have to say though, re the comments section; why are there so many beer drinking jeerers? With their inexplicable contempt and whinging. Move on!, maybe watch Coronation Street instead. There's plenty of whinging on that show; it'll be like Christmas for you.
I would also like to know this....I think the tips are usually within the 535-539 range, for a machine with an output of approx 5L/min (which if I remember correctly the Graco Mark V, used in this vid, has....i use Wagner machines though......). Also the tubing, and Gun specs, required to spray plaster, used in this vid/generally, i would really appreciate knowing.
I'm using it and when have a little experience is going very nice and quick, the whole European are using that , the main point for me is that I can do big cilings on my own, the job is much lighter for my shoulders and the finish is much better.
Hi mate This has been out for about 5 years on commercial sites.Don’t really see many plasterers any more all done by Eastern European’s Enjoy your videos👍🏼
I was all on board till he mentioned sanding. Then I thought gloryfied taping. And all ok in ideal cercumstance. And how much is the machine. In can you leave in hopper overnight without it skinning over and having lumps hence blocks. Sorry lot of questions /doubts
totally agree with you. i dont think i would ever get used to this method especially in real world situations where this method is just going to be more time consuming. how long does it take to mask windows and doors up for instance; not convinced at all;
Its horses for courses. This is a demonstration, could you imagine turning up with that machine and noise to skim a bedroom, but I tell you what, if you was doing a school or something with massive hallways you would do a day trimming up and a day spraying its happy days in and out in 2 days laughing
I was a a machine Plastering Subbie in Berlin Germany. A guy in Kaiserslautern kept ringing me saying he had 4 years work and had 6 houses ready. Eventually I sent him A good Geordie & A Cockney 2 man team. After a month they had run out of work as they were doing 2 houses a week. That's the main reason they don't work over here! It's all about meters!!
Thanks for posting this Blaine. This is also a first, a film with it's own adverts, way to go, respect. It was all nicely explained and demo'd thanks, he sprayed on in a pattern I use when I spray lime wash and looks great. It may be the dogs bollox but working with something that sounds like a duck being murdered would get on the nerves. It's a gamechanger alright, started in 1932 the Teutonic Knauf now have 150 production sites worldwide and as 1 of 6 producers of wallboard they have about 81% of the global wallboard market. They are the big boys so you'd think that they would spend a little extra coming up with a plastic bag recycle system or use a biodegradable plastic bag. Plastic should be made from plastic, no more raw materials, profits from the big 6 single use plastic producers could be put into monetarising waste plastic to give it value and people would collect it like old tins and bottles. The tragedy is that all industries still uses so much plastic and packaging and was one of the reasons that I switched to lime from using gypsum & cement, I liked the history, the lime cycle and that the ancients used the same stuff, so if it was good enough for the Romans..... I've been using the same supplier for about 15 years buying my materials in ton bags and they deliver for £40 travel cost per load these days. I also keep my old ton bags and one day might make a giant kite. Liked the bag squeezer and would love a whole set-up and what's the cost and back-up like? Unlike cement and gypsum a lime wall will absorb carbon dioxide, and gives you better acoustics and having said all the above, the future will probably be carbon nanotubes, graphene and geopolymer cement and we'll be living like those in Ready Player One.
It does the first few times, but I found you get a routine using them a lot, and there's little tricks and cleaning equipment that can save loads of time. Plus the latest models have a setting just for cleaning - that especially cuts the time down in my experience
You should try paint roller method. There are special rollers that are made from plastic naps. Cost around £20, but you will get the same quality if not better than this excessively priced sprayer. And it’s time saver also. Cheers
Roller looks exactly like 9” painting roller but instead of wool, its made of soft plastic. Basically it feels exactly the same but you can load more plaster in roller. After you finish just put it inside paint bucket and cover it with lid. No cleaning is required after.
Yea common knowledge in the trade that this method has been around for decade's. If it were a game changer it would have done so already. Hope the cource didn't cost you much👍
I done a revite recently that had been sprayed (Barret build 1900/2000) this product is VERY soft sands easy / also marks easy !! The problem is it also shails off easy - I had to scrap the whole ceiling back to the boards as parts were coming off - It might be good for commercial stuff but for domestic where you will get more drying out / movement - it is useless But bearing in mind the big builders are ONLY bothered about speed / price and not longevity - it is a spray get there money & gone as long as it lasts a couple of years until the house is out of warranty then it is the BUYERS / OWNERS problem !! The yanks use a similar style of stuff - ready mixed but apply it with a roller and then flatten & a light sand - it gets the walls like glass & a two man team can do a room quickly & no expensive machine !! Suppose it depends what type of work you do & how rich you are !!
@@richardmcdougall233 dustless sanding is a nice marketing term but we all know that’s not exactly true. The fine air bourne dust is the issue in my opinion. I’ll stick with normal plaster and let you crack on thanks very much.
Cheers mate! This was my first time pal - I've never sprayed paint either so it was totally new to me. It was actually quite easy which I was surprised about!
Wow watched all of it and didn't even notice the time. I use a paint sprayer to paint and it's top notch. This plaster sprayer looks great but I feel I'm gonna need a plasterer to smooth it becasue I'm not a plasterer!?!?! I just paid a fortune to a builder to plaster a big building.
Have you ever done a video on plastering the underside of kite winder stairs, the batten and mesh method? Kinda like lath and plaster, it'd be interesting to see the whole process as it's not been covered much on youtube
I've got mesh to use for my walls. I'd feel better about it if I used it but I'm pretty tempted to skip the step judging by the infrequency of seeing it done.
Not watched the whole video as not got time right now but if you have to tape and joint beforehand then........seems counter productive. Time you tape and joint you'd have most of the wall on. Also would you really set this up for a bathroom reskim. Or any room for that matter. Fair enough on industrial jobs but private work?
It’s also cool that the product is white. That’s a time saver on the overall project too, because (I assume) you don’t need the painters to do a mist coat or an undercoat either.
@@OrdinaryJoe12 my thought process was based on when house builders give plumbers a unit price to fit a central heating system. So your profits will be cut to the bone.
The system, gun, tips etc are almost identical to the airless paint systems I was using 20 years ago for priming trailer chassis and they were also made by Graco! I’m guessing the main difference being the size of the fluid tip for the higher viscosity product? Be careful what you wish for mate us ex paint sprayers may come out of retirement😂
@@PlasteringForBeginners haven’t put the boots away mate, self employed multi trade now but leave the plastering to the experts I say👍🏻 been subbed for a while now and like any other skilled plasterer you make it look easy........too easy, great channel btw
I used to use a Graco xp70 and a 1-1 for spray applied liquid plastics and waterproofing , worst thing is the crust around the hoppers you have to clean it well or little bits will block the hopper , I learned from other operatives not cleaning it and it being sent out to my job , clean clean clean the hoppers properly and bristles from cheap brushes get clogged so no cheap paint brushes only a £20 purdy 🤣 👍🏻 regards from east London
I was going to ask this as well, so thank you! I like "old world" and textured wall styles. I wonder if it would be fine to do base layers multi-use plaster and top layers Venetian?
Seen this system used where I'm working at the moment some of the walls in the complex are concrete and require a skilled plasterer to dot and dab them it seems to be used on apartments and hotels alot for speed
My question is how does it compare with multifinish for hardness, if it is no harder than a filler then there would be little reason to use it at all, if it is just as hard then I could see this being very useful on big sites
Personally I love this system I use it on house refurbishments from top to bottom all in one hit... preparation is key the finish is flawless after a sand with the mirka with a dust extraction is a must..... 5k an uve got a decent set up
Hi Blaine! I did your online course and plastered my first wall, turned out pretty good and within time, so thanks for that! I’ve been looking into the spray plaster, as I’ve taken on the airless spray painting. Is there any surface prep before you go on with the Knauf, such as primer etc? What about problem walls with cracks? Ive heard of a system where the entire wall is covered with fibreglass as part of the whole system, is this a Knauf stage for problem walls?
Quality video as always mate. The trainer was decent as well. Looks quick I bet the more u do it you could really get some speed. Looking forward to to the next video. B interested in what one of the machines cost? Hope your well mate and keeping busy.
Hey men I saw your video bit I have a question You think I can use a titan 4900 sprayer machine to sprayer the drywallmud on walls I just want know if my machine have the right power to do it thank you
Here in scotland when someone offers you the chance to buy an airless sprayer we simply say "Naw mate, ram it !!!!!!!!!! Then we carry on with life and the realization that we have just popped our "Meet a fucking weapon " cherry .
Looks to me that ur walls need to b pretty good to start with to use this method not to mention dragging that contraption from job to job looks more hassle than it’s worth maybe on a massive warehouse size job it would pay but not on ur normal run of the mill project
Great video. I have a Wagner hc 940 for sale. We tried this system when multifinish plaster was hard come by, this system is not for us a bit to long winded, probably suits decorators better, we find plastering the traditional way is far more cost effective and quicker. Wagner hc 940 for sale
I don't see the point for doing this when it's a flat Wall to begin with so why spay a 1/8 inch layer to slick offi mean wouldn't it still be a flat Wall after worth plus more raterial and it doesn't take out any imperfections I'm your flat Wall
Atlas GTA in Poland has been with us for a decade. You can apply it simply with a roller, You can also do it this way but try to imagine this machine in a small room ...I can't. Roller, that's cool and quick enough. Just like this big and awkward machine. Regards.
Do you have to sand it after, and cover every thing be for you start. And I imagine you have to fill all joints and beads first, If there is a bump or hollow in the wall or ceiling how do you get over that when putting the product on so thin.
The prep is key with this system and you do have to tape and fill The joints beforehand. So you will spend more time prepping - there's no doubt about that. But I think it's worth the effort. I'll let you know when I'm testing it in the future!
Serious question- if using Gyproc/plasterboard/drywall (like in this video), what is the purpose of 'plastering' the whole wall as opposed to just filling joints then prime/paint? Is it just for texture? Or is it just an adaptation of traditional plastering with modern building methods/practices?
Paper, that the boards is covered in, produces a different finish to plaster and jointing compound. So most plastering in UK is not taped seems, it's skim coat.
@@Matasky2010 we tend to use a fiberglass reinforcement tape at the joints as this is much stronger than the paper tapes, and paper is not needed for the finish as the skim coat does the "finish" part that the paper tape would fulfill.
@@Matasky2010 this kind of thing www.toolstation.com/gyproc-fibatape-xtreme-plasterboard-joint-tape/p58759?store=CN&gclid=Cj0KCQjwktKFBhCkARIsAJeDT0jTWoVMGM8A-zE3MOeNzd3x02KWmLIuAoCu3S2uf26xQkwlotelbgYaAi9hEALw_wcB
@@cjhification Ok so basically you don’t rely on your plasterboard to provide a finished surface, unlike the paper surface of a drywall sheet which is ready for paint.
Might want to check your camera settings and change frequency to 50Hz and not 60Hz to stop the flickering caused by those fluorescent lamps. Used to work on site with a guy that said Yeah a lot, we nicknamed him Matt Bianco. Interesting concept, be careful what you wish for, Airless sprayer today Robot tomorrow, be out of work sooner that you can say a yeh - yeh , thats what I say, I say yeh - yeh.
This technic and material is more akin to how walls are finished in the US. Joint compound and tape with no finish or skim coat unless in a high end residential or commercial setting. To a comment bellow as to why not just tape the joints and then prime the rest of the plasterboard - this can be done, but, different compounds have different PSI and granular mixes. A complete skim coat always looks best and prevents blotching in paints and uneven surfaces across your walls, especially where butt joints come together with large build-ups. It’s better for repairs and touch ups after your 2nd fix guys come through as you can feather out damaged areas. I’m guessing this may catch on more outside of the UK more. I hope traditional plater remains the norm. The skim coat is far superior and durable.
I have a same kit, but for some reason it doesn't suck the plaster up and just keep pumping ... but nothing, i have cleaned it pretty much tried everything... any idea?
I'm not sure this does much more than lower the barrier to entry for beginners. I can also see a ton of new splasterers bidding for work that don't actually know how to plaster.
Hi there mate. I've been spray plastering for 2yrs now after doing a course and investing in the same set up you were using. I'm a drywall taper to trade and I can tell you it will make you money. I would say about 80% of my work is now spray plastering and the rest is taping. Most of my work is now spray plastering over artex ceilings and nine times out of ten the client wants their whole house done. With this system you can just spray directly on, no bonding to be done, you can get three coats on in a day easy if it's a heavy texture your working over, and get a decent sander like a Mirca Leros connected to a good extractor there is very minimal dust. Its so much cleaner, easier and faster than traditional plastering. Go for it mate it's a no brainer!
Hiya mate so you work in peoples houses with this system then? I'm liking what you're saying mate
Hi Duncan, yes working in people's houses is no problem. You just cover all furniture with dust sheets just as you would do if you were painting. This system is so much cleaner than traditional plastering and the dust off the sanding down is absolutely minimal as long as you have a good sander connected to a good extractor.
Wow! I can’t believe I’ve watched this all the way through and was very impressed, even being a woman I loved watching it !
Me too! :)
I invested in the airless system as it seemed alot easier on the body. But after about 2 years I sold the lot. This system is designed for large projects and I wanted to see how it worked for myself on small domestic jobs. It was to much of a hassle for me in the end and I went back to traditional methods.
Sounds like you just do one rooms at a time. Only benefits if you have 3rooms at a time
This is very interesting. I could imagine that being the case to be honest - I'd only use it for big projects but it's interesting to hear your feedback. Cheers mate... hope you're well 👍
@Some Words 🤣🤣🤣
@Some Words all you need is 20 bags of plaster a bucket and trowel and start drinking 3 special brew for breakfast. Well done you are a qualified plasterer 🤣
@Scott Sid sounds like you're a master plasterer you I'd say u need at least 5 🤣
Great video, many thanks. Need another video at suitable point on costs and maintenance of the machine. What goes wrong and how easy to fix, which bits might need replacement etc. etc. Thanks again.
Hi blaine..good effort for your first lesson! I'm a polished plasterer by trade (venetian/marmorino)..we use many types of trowels flexi or cut down etc, but starting to feel some aches and pains after all these years (55yo)..and plaster spraying has always sounded appealing..loving the simplicity of it...
Thank you mate! I want to get into the Polished plastering so that's my next course I'm looking into - I'm excited about that! I think you'll love this Spray Plastering them pal 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners you will love the polished plaster...so many styles u just need abit more elbow grease for some of the finishes lol...good luck and keep up the good work😎👍🏻
We’ve been spray plastering for about 3 years. I use a Graco APX. Once you’ve got the hang of it it’s a doddle. Over Artex, wallpaper and bad walls. Easy, quick and no mist coat when painting. It is amazing for large works but we also use it for domestic work. I reckon it’s a winner👍
Hi Blaine. I've been watching your videos plastering for beginners and I've learned a lot from you. Thanks . I watched the air spray plaster .yeah I am impressed but to be honest I felt like something was missing. There's a lot of joy in plastering the old way .all the skills in working with the tools from scratch there's a lot of joy in that .to see the end product using the tools of the trade nothing will beat that . Old school rules .
I love watching your videos especially when you have a tea break. 🤣 LOL .
I'm not a plasterer but by watching your videos I gained a lot of confidence and I plastered my bathroom don't get me wrong I appreciate the guys that served there time in learning there trade . But once again a BIG THANKS. I'll keep watching your videos.
Man, two people, one spraying on, the other flattening off, you'd be doing a room in a hour! Serious coverage!
if you paint the room its the same result.
We’ve been using this graco mark V for level 5 drywall finishes for the last 5 years here in USA . We do commercial construction like hotels etc. We blow out 300+ yards per day no problem. We love it! Superior finishes
This is def the future I’d recommend getting some spatulas loads quicker. We mainly do big commercials sites & high end new builds with it. Main contractors love it as it’s far less snagging & they don’t have to pay patchers to patch the multi finish up. It’s a no brainer really
I use the same plaster in Poland for finishing we roll it on and skim it flat 2 coats. Usually one rolls and the other skims depending on the temp we can get 5 full rooms done in a day, we use Halogen lamps on the wall while working it to.get a better finish.
Always some.sanding to do the next day or so.
Thanks for the video always good to see what is out there 👍
That's insane coverage! Fair play mate - very impressive 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners Thanks, yeah the pace excepted here is a bit crazy but it's funny how you get used to it and it becomes the norm 😄
your basically taping and jointing the full room minus the sanding but that had already previously be done and sanded down over the joints before you even began MADNESS
We had a go with this on some eco houses 10 years ago. Only worth getting out if you have massive areas to do. Nowhere stocked it at the time so committed to buying by the pallet. We covered around 100m2 per day but you still have to tape and fill all joints before spraying. Great for the right application. We had 6 metre ceiling heights so my mate pushed me round on an aluminium tower whilst I sprayed!! Lots of fun!
This sounds brilliant. I could imagine you lads in that cherry picker... Brilliant 😂
Its for level 5 the painters usually do it.can do a 350sqm in 4 hours but know one wants it.so it died out in aus and nz.
Impressive. We call this Level 5 drywall in the states. Most people wouldn’t except this is “hardcoat” or plaster, but I think it’s as good or better aesthetically.
thank you for clarifying - I couldn't understand why anyone would plaster (instead of simply paint) over perfectly good drywall.
This system was new in Poland about 8/10 years ago, they only forgotten to say that is only to cover flat surface, any holes you will need to fill and sand before spraying.... Maybe try show how much easier is applying filler with roller 😉 much easier and you doesn't have to invest ££££ in tooling. Can't wait for future videos. 👍👍👍
In case anyone is using this video to teach themselves.. @ 5:36 "basically turn it off" is not going to cut it - the machine will remain under pressure even if it is turned off! When you take a break, you need switch the unit from "Spray" to "Prime", using the pressure relief valve. Before that you will want to reduce the pressure to zero using the main pressure dial.
Being a plasterer myself, have never tried sprayed skimming, I have only done spray render which is definitely worth it but for spray skimming I don’t see how it’s feasible, would be nice to see a photo of paintable sprayed skim :)
I agree with you 100%
In my opinion the sprayed plaster finishes way better than traditional gypsum plaster when painted. Also takes less time to decorate as no list coat required. Tradional plaster is a harder finish for sure and is easier to flatten off and work with but doesn't look as good when fully finished imo
For myself this is frecking great. I'm into alternative living and with that comes alternative materials such as gob building which you can make some fantastic shapes out of. Spray plaster in this instance would work a charm. Thanks for uploading bud.
That didn’t seem too difficult I hop. I think the main thing is the time taken for preparation and the cleaning up process afterwards, thanks for sharing this video!
That is a sweet rig I used to spray mud to fix messed up hotel walls with a mark 5 but did not have a hopper he just got to be careful that thicker than paint it'll take fingers off
hi mate i spoke to Stuart from knauff last week was in 2 minds to book into the course at Grimsby, You made my mind up thanks
Haha glad to hear it 👍
You have changed my opinion on this . I tried it in the nineties and it was awful then . But the ready mixed looks much easier 👍
Thanks for uploading this mate. Great video and smart design. *I have to say though, re the comments section; why are there so many beer drinking jeerers?
With their inexplicable contempt and whinging. Move on!, maybe watch Coronation Street instead. There's plenty of whinging on that show; it'll be like Christmas for you.
It been out year's never really taking off when you have got to the point having to joint and and taping before the spaying most would just paint
Great video guys, What size filters and tip did you use for this job? thanks in advance
I would also like to know this....I think the tips are usually within the 535-539 range, for a machine with an output of approx 5L/min (which if I remember correctly the Graco Mark V, used in this vid, has....i use Wagner machines though......). Also the tubing, and Gun specs, required to spray plaster, used in this vid/generally, i would really appreciate knowing.
I'm using it and when have a little experience is going very nice and quick, the whole European are using that , the main point for me is that I can do big cilings on my own, the job is much lighter for my shoulders and the finish is much better.
I have been doing this for years and will be teaching the system this year
Good luck my friend!!
Excellent, Knauf are always innovative, I am not a plasterer but would love to try that system out. thanks for sharing this
Not a problem - thank you for watching 👍
Innovate? Never made a skim to rival bg........
Hi mate
This has been out for about 5 years on commercial sites.Don’t really see many plasterers any more all done by Eastern European’s
Enjoy your videos👍🏼
Yeah I've heard this actually. Did you ever try it?? Cheers 👍
Hi mate
No I’m a tiler sick to death of cleaning up all the dust from them sanding it down
I was all on board till he mentioned sanding. Then I thought gloryfied taping. And all ok in ideal cercumstance. And how much is the machine. In can you leave in hopper overnight without it skinning over and having lumps hence blocks. Sorry lot of questions /doubts
By time you have fixed angle beads and filled them out plus fill joints out before spraying I think it's quicker just to skim with multifinish
Multifinish is faster option indeed. I would choose plaster for large jobs and multifinish for smaller - like one room.
totally agree with you. i dont think i would ever get used to this method especially in real world situations where this method is just going to be more time consuming. how long does it take to mask windows and doors up for instance; not convinced at all;
@@mielefido9633 to be fair all plasterers should tape up windows anyway .
Its horses for courses. This is a demonstration, could you imagine turning up with that machine and noise to skim a bedroom, but I tell you what, if you was doing a school or something with massive hallways you would do a day trimming up and a day spraying its happy days in and out in 2 days laughing
Lol u ppl dont know what u talkin i did 3 one bed flats with 2 of my guys 1 spraying 2 of us plastering ....
Defo need to try this will take all the ball ache out of the job and save lots of time.looking forward to part 2
It's a bit easier ha! Thank you mate ☺️
I was a a machine Plastering Subbie in Berlin Germany. A guy in Kaiserslautern kept ringing me saying he had 4 years work and had 6 houses ready. Eventually I sent him A good Geordie & A Cockney 2 man team. After a month they had run out of work as they were doing 2 houses a week. That's the main reason they don't work over here! It's all about meters!!
Thanks for posting this Blaine. This is also a first, a film with it's own adverts, way to go, respect.
It was all nicely explained and demo'd thanks, he sprayed on in a pattern I use when I spray lime wash and looks great.
It may be the dogs bollox but working with something that sounds like a duck being murdered would get on the nerves.
It's a gamechanger alright, started in 1932 the Teutonic Knauf now have 150 production sites worldwide and as 1 of 6 producers of wallboard they have about 81% of the global wallboard market. They are the big boys so you'd think that they would spend a little extra coming up with a plastic bag recycle system or use a biodegradable plastic bag.
Plastic should be made from plastic, no more raw materials, profits from the big 6 single use plastic producers could be put into monetarising waste plastic to give it value and people would collect it like old tins and bottles.
The tragedy is that all industries still uses so much plastic and packaging and was one of the reasons that I switched to lime from using gypsum & cement, I liked the history, the lime cycle and that the ancients used the same stuff, so if it was good enough for the Romans.....
I've been using the same supplier for about 15 years buying my materials in ton bags and they deliver for £40 travel cost per load these days.
I also keep my old ton bags and one day might make a giant kite.
Liked the bag squeezer and would love a whole set-up and what's the cost and back-up like?
Unlike cement and gypsum a lime wall will absorb carbon dioxide, and gives you better acoustics and having said all the above,
the future will probably be carbon nanotubes, graphene and geopolymer cement and we'll be living like those in Ready Player One.
Used that machine years ago for spraying fire resistant coatings. It takes ages cleaning it all out at the end of the day.
It does the first few times, but I found you get a routine using them a lot, and there's little tricks and cleaning equipment that can save loads of time. Plus the latest models have a setting just for cleaning - that especially cuts the time down in my experience
You should try paint roller method. There are special rollers that are made from plastic naps. Cost around £20, but you will get the same quality if not better than this excessively priced sprayer. And it’s time saver also. Cheers
Like u would paint a wall u mean ? Just with plaster instead
Roller looks exactly like 9” painting roller but instead of wool, its made of soft plastic. Basically it feels exactly the same but you can load more plaster in roller. After you finish just put it inside paint bucket and cover it with lid. No cleaning is required after.
Been looking is the brush spiky ? Seen airating spiking looking rollers
Yea common knowledge in the trade that this method has been around for decade's. If it were a game changer it would have done so already. Hope the cource didn't cost you much👍
I done a revite recently that had been sprayed (Barret build 1900/2000) this product is VERY soft sands easy / also marks easy !!
The problem is it also shails off easy - I had to scrap the whole ceiling back to the boards as parts were coming off - It might be good for commercial stuff but for domestic where you will get more drying out / movement - it is useless
But bearing in mind the big builders are ONLY bothered about speed / price and not longevity - it is a spray get there money & gone as long as it lasts a couple of years until the house is out of warranty then it is the BUYERS / OWNERS problem !!
The yanks use a similar style of stuff - ready mixed but apply it with a roller and then flatten & a light sand - it gets the walls like glass & a two man team can do a room quickly & no expensive machine !! Suppose it depends what type of work you do & how rich you are !!
The instructor mentioned its designed to be sanded. As soon as he said that I tuned out. There’s enough dust on site without breathing any more in.
It's replacing the plaster dust, so its dust neutral ;-)
Mirka dustless sander or equivalent well worth it.
You only get 1 set of lungs mirka rep told me on a demo day...
@@richardmcdougall233 dustless sanding is a nice marketing term but we all know that’s not exactly true. The fine air bourne dust is the issue in my opinion. I’ll stick with normal plaster and let you crack on thanks very much.
Same here, if it needs sanding then its just a spray taping system.
Now get a machine to mix and spray multifinish then I'd consider it.
By the time he's messed about spaying his joint out the wall would be on with a trowel
That looks real good mate can't wait for the next video. Is it just like normal sprain or have you not done any sprain before
Cheers mate! This was my first time pal - I've never sprayed paint either so it was totally new to me. It was actually quite easy which I was surprised about!
Are brilliant I've done some spraying before but never plaster
You'll be fine then pal 😉
Awesome
Wow watched all of it and didn't even notice the time. I use a paint sprayer to paint and it's top notch. This plaster sprayer looks great but I feel I'm gonna need a plasterer to smooth it becasue I'm not a plasterer!?!?! I just paid a fortune to a builder to plaster a big building.
Airless sprayers are more than 30 years old. Graco is the most well known. Wagner too is very good. Cheers from Helsinki .
I've heard Wagner is good - I'll have to look into it. Then you matey 👍
I suspect it’s like chrome plating, if you prep well in the first place the end result will be perfect.
Have you ever done a video on plastering the underside of kite winder stairs, the batten and mesh method? Kinda like lath and plaster, it'd be interesting to see the whole process as it's not been covered much on youtube
I've got mesh to use for my walls. I'd feel better about it if I used it but I'm pretty tempted to skip the step judging by the infrequency of seeing it done.
Not watched the whole video as not got time right now but if you have to tape and joint beforehand then........seems counter productive. Time you tape and joint you'd have most of the wall on. Also would you really set this up for a bathroom reskim. Or any room for that matter. Fair enough on industrial jobs but private work?
Plaster spraying since the 90s it's old school for me 😅🇬🇷
It’s also cool that the product is white. That’s a time saver on the overall project too, because (I assume) you don’t need the painters to do a mist coat or an undercoat either.
Absolutely would still need to prime this same as you would plaster or easi fill etc
Looking forward to the plaster a 4 bed house in a day for the price of one room plastering 👍
or plaster a 4 bed house for time of a 1 bed for the cost of a 4 bed.
@@OrdinaryJoe12 my thought process was based on when house builders give plumbers a unit price to fit a central heating system. So your profits will be cut to the bone.
Nice we do that here. We call it level 5 Finnish coat.
Why is the gear not going off in the hopper? Did I understand right that you can leave it full over night? What is this plaster?
It's Voodoo magic - I'm not really sure how it does it ha!
The system, gun, tips etc are almost identical to the airless paint systems I was using 20 years ago for priming trailer chassis and they were also made by Graco! I’m guessing the main difference being the size of the fluid tip for the higher viscosity product? Be careful what you wish for mate us ex paint sprayers may come out of retirement😂
Haha you'd be good at it then mate. Is this tempting you back into your work boots?? 🤣
@@PlasteringForBeginners haven’t put the boots away mate, self employed multi trade now but leave the plastering to the experts I say👍🏻 been subbed for a while now and like any other skilled plasterer you make it look easy........too easy, great channel btw
Really good vid mate,looks a great machine to use,my shoulder loves it,how much for the course?looking forward to part 2
Haha it's a bit easier! Cheers mate - thanks for watching 👍
This is basically tape and joint to a level 5 finish tape and joint being a 4, if you like sanding and light checking maybe its for you.
I used to use a Graco xp70 and a 1-1 for spray applied liquid plastics and waterproofing , worst thing is the crust around the hoppers you have to clean it well or little bits will block the hopper , I learned from other operatives not cleaning it and it being sent out to my job , clean clean clean the hoppers properly and bristles from cheap brushes get clogged so no cheap paint brushes only a £20 purdy 🤣 👍🏻 regards from east London
Can you use this stuff for reskim work? or is it only over new plaster boards?
You can use it on existing walls too mate!
Hi Blaine great vid, have you ever tried or looked at doing Venetian polished plastering?
Second this. You can make serious money doing Venetian jobs.
This is my next venture ha! It's a future project for our channel 😉
Venetian is very easy to do if you can plaster.
I was going to ask this as well, so thank you! I like "old world" and textured wall styles. I wonder if it would be fine to do base layers multi-use plaster and top layers Venetian?
@@jodieharth Yup, you’re gonna apply a quartz primer to it anyway.
Seen this system used where I'm working at the moment some of the walls in the complex are concrete and require a skilled plasterer to dot and dab them it seems to be used on apartments and hotels alot for speed
My question is how does it compare with multifinish for hardness, if it is no harder than a filler then there would be little reason to use it at all, if it is just as hard then I could see this being very useful on big sites
Personally I love this system I use it on house refurbishments from top to bottom all in one hit... preparation is key the finish is flawless after a sand with the mirka with a dust extraction is a must..... 5k an uve got a decent set up
This sounds like the right way to do it mate!! I'm going to keep trying it - I enjoyed it 👍
You can roll it on also with a paint roller that way you don't need to skim , then machine sand also.
by the time youve messed about with that spray thingy you could have had the walls on in the normal way.
Thanks for this video there’s not a chance il ever use this method
Seems more like tape & jointing than plastering?
That looks a great system, wonder what its like for refurb work. Looks like its for new builds are complete refurbs..
Is that not a joint compound or is it a plaster
Yep its jc
Hi Blaine! I did your online course and plastered my first wall, turned out pretty good and within time, so thanks for that! I’ve been looking into the spray plaster, as I’ve taken on the airless spray painting. Is there any surface prep before you go on with the Knauf, such as primer etc? What about problem walls with cracks? Ive heard of a system where the entire wall is covered with fibreglass as part of the whole system, is this a Knauf stage for problem walls?
I teach airless spray plaster online “the spray coach” on instagram and facebook. Its brilliant . If you need any help come check us out 👍
Quality video as always mate. The trainer was decent as well. Looks quick I bet the more u do it you could really get some speed. Looking forward to to the next video. B interested in what one of the machines cost? Hope your well mate and keeping busy.
Hi Blaine, bit off topic but what would u say is the best twitcher on the market? Every one I've had has been rubbish!!
Never seen this before very good this is the future
Hey men I saw your video bit I have a question
You think I can use a titan 4900 sprayer machine to sprayer the drywallmud on walls I just want know if my machine have the right power to do it thank you
Here in scotland when someone offers you the chance to buy an airless sprayer we simply say "Naw mate, ram it !!!!!!!!!! Then we carry on with life and the realization that we have just popped our "Meet a fucking weapon " cherry .
Taping and sanding the joints, 1 or 2 coats and then this. Remind me where the benefit is?
Looks to me that ur walls need to b pretty good to start with to use this method not to mention dragging that contraption from job to job looks more hassle than it’s worth maybe on a massive warehouse size job it would pay but not on ur normal run of the mill project
I am self-builder and this looks ideal for me - can you hire the gear?
How did you get on that course do you need to be a time served plasterer to get on the course
Wow! Cheers from South Florida USA.
Great video.
I have a Wagner hc 940 for sale. We tried this system when multifinish plaster was hard come by, this system is not for us a bit to long winded, probably suits decorators better, we find plastering the traditional way is far more cost effective and quicker.
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I don't see the point for doing this when it's a flat Wall to begin with so why spay a 1/8 inch layer to slick offi mean wouldn't it still be a flat Wall after worth plus more raterial and it doesn't take out any imperfections I'm your flat Wall
Done it once now I'm qualified to tell everyone how to do typical youtuber
How thick does it lay on? Can you go spray a beaded wall around a window etc? I assume reveals would still be layed on by hand?
Atlas GTA in Poland has been with us for a decade. You can apply it simply with a roller, You can also do it this way but try to imagine this machine in a small room ...I can't. Roller, that's cool and quick enough. Just like this big and awkward machine. Regards.
That's a good point and thank you for the insight. Cheers pal...hope you're well!
Been able to spray multi finish on with a pft ritmo aswell for over 15 years
looks so complicated but how many m2 can you roughly do a day on nice runs like this
Do you have to sand it after, and cover every thing be for you start. And I imagine you have to fill all joints and beads first,
If there is a bump or hollow in the wall or ceiling how do you get over that when putting the product on so thin.
The prep is key with this system and you do have to tape and fill The joints beforehand. So you will spend more time prepping - there's no doubt about that. But I think it's worth the effort.
I'll let you know when I'm testing it in the future!
Probably easy if the boards are good. What happens if the owners boarded it or it’s site work..... wont be as neat
Serious question- if using Gyproc/plasterboard/drywall (like in this video), what is the purpose of 'plastering' the whole wall as opposed to just filling joints then prime/paint? Is it just for texture? Or is it just an adaptation of traditional plastering with modern building methods/practices?
Paper, that the boards is covered in, produces a different finish to plaster and jointing compound. So most plastering in UK is not taped seems, it's skim coat.
@@cjhification So I guess the skim coat is strong enough to withstand cracking at the joints without reinforcement (tape)? Interesting..
@@Matasky2010 we tend to use a fiberglass reinforcement tape at the joints as this is much stronger than the paper tapes, and paper is not needed for the finish as the skim coat does the "finish" part that the paper tape would fulfill.
@@Matasky2010 this kind of thing www.toolstation.com/gyproc-fibatape-xtreme-plasterboard-joint-tape/p58759?store=CN&gclid=Cj0KCQjwktKFBhCkARIsAJeDT0jTWoVMGM8A-zE3MOeNzd3x02KWmLIuAoCu3S2uf26xQkwlotelbgYaAi9hEALw_wcB
@@cjhification Ok so basically you don’t rely on your plasterboard to provide a finished surface, unlike the paper surface of a drywall sheet which is ready for paint.
Might want to check your camera settings and change frequency to 50Hz and not 60Hz to stop the flickering caused by those fluorescent lamps. Used to work on site with a guy that said Yeah a lot, we nicknamed him Matt Bianco. Interesting concept, be careful what you wish for, Airless sprayer today Robot tomorrow, be out of work sooner that you can say a yeh - yeh , thats what I say, I say yeh - yeh.
what about going on artex ? can you go straight on to it ?
What’s today price for complete spray unit ? Cheers
This technic and material is more akin to how walls are finished in the US. Joint compound and tape with no finish or skim coat unless in a high end residential or commercial setting.
To a comment bellow as to why not just tape the joints and then prime the rest of the plasterboard - this can be done, but, different compounds have different PSI and granular mixes. A complete skim coat always looks best and prevents blotching in paints and uneven surfaces across your walls, especially where butt joints come together with large build-ups. It’s better for repairs and touch ups after your 2nd fix guys come through as you can feather out damaged areas.
I’m guessing this may catch on more outside of the UK more.
I hope traditional plater remains the norm. The skim coat is far superior and durable.
Question......do yall float the entire walls on every project in the UK ???
Yes
Try a graco 1595 and that beast will blast mud like icing on the cake.
I have a same kit, but for some reason it doesn't suck the plaster up and just keep pumping ... but nothing, i have cleaned it pretty much tried everything... any idea?
Can the hopper and machine be left overnight without major cleaning?
I wonder how it will work on a sand and cement render wall.
Just sand the joint and paint . Can this be used on a rendered wall?
Were those bottlenecks in murston? Looks familiar
Ha I'm not sure to be honest pal. I just followed Google 😂
@@PlasteringForBeginners probably a good thing anyway, don't want to spend too much time around there lol
Can you go over old work
I'm not sure this does much more than lower the barrier to entry for beginners. I can also see a ton of new splasterers bidding for work that don't actually know how to plaster.