Creality CR-Scan Lizard Review - does it reach 0.05mm?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • I review the brand new CR-Scan Lizard 3D Scanner from Creality...
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  • @emillukic2695
    @emillukic2695 2 года назад +11

    Man I found this video and channel today. Finding out that you are using your skills and knowledge in the exact same way I am trying to do is just sooo inspiring! I have probably watched at 10 of your videos today and sadly I have probably come up with atleast 10 more projects that I want to do.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +3

      Cheers buddy! I am glad I am not the only crazy person trying to do this! Welcome to the party 👍

    • @Moto_Medics
      @Moto_Medics Год назад

      Same here it’s awesome how similar our goals appear to be.

  • @jdmimportlogistics
    @jdmimportlogistics 2 года назад +3

    Brilliant mate! - great lighting, smooth non- obnoxious cadence in presentation and your computer screen is clear so we can follow the commands on our T.V. at home- New subscriber!

  • @ruftime
    @ruftime 2 года назад +1

    Thank you!
    Very impressive results.
    Work like this really makes me appreciate my new SpaceMouse.

  • @IdealGrain
    @IdealGrain 2 года назад +1

    I’ll be watching this in full later today. Just popping in to say that I love the premise of your channel. I’m a maker, former makerspace director and founder, and an absolute car nerd, so this is all right up my alley.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Hello! Glad you like it! I made it because it’s a channel I’d like to watch and it’s what I do.. I am just glad there are so many people out there interested in the same thing! 👍

  • @kyleeaton1709
    @kyleeaton1709 2 года назад +1

    I just backed this on KS and made sure to use your link, bro! Thanks for the review!

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Cheers bud! Hope you have fun with it! Thanks for supporting the channel 👍

  • @dionvanstrydonck8552
    @dionvanstrydonck8552 2 года назад +7

    Man, seeing one of those LEMO-connectors (the one on the data cable) in the wild on an actual product after having soldered a bunch in the past feels so weird. Like, I know they're actually used a lot because they're super high quality, but it just feels so weird!
    Anyway, this scanner looks really really cool!

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for letting me know the name of the connector… it does have a quality “click” on it!

  • @gixrman
    @gixrman 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for doing this video. I’ve been wanting a scanner and can’t justify a Creaform or Einscan prices at a hobbyist level for accurate scanning. This looks to get you close enough to adjust in fusion for an accurate representation.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      The whole thing is a learning curve and the modelling with mesh is a whole other one, but once learned this will definitely be useful!

  • @streetcarmedia
    @streetcarmedia 2 года назад

    Finally someone that uses 3d printer for car parts subscribed

  • @grumblewoof4721
    @grumblewoof4721 2 года назад +5

    Looks interesting and i already own two Creality 3D printers and not disappointed in their build quality and performance so I would expect similar for this device. Creality have released two different scanners to date but I have not been wowed by the performance and price of these. I own a Revopop Pop and expecting my Pop II (0.1mm resolution) at end of the month so I would be interested to see a side by side comparison of this new Creality Lizard with the Pop II.

  • @luisces
    @luisces 2 года назад

    I received mine yesterday, this is already a much better tutorial than the official CR one. Thanks!

  • @sphericalsphere
    @sphericalsphere 2 года назад

    This is awesome. Just supported the campaign. No way in hell I ain't gonna get 300€ of value out of this. Hell of a deal. Gonna make myself some custom aero parts and stuff that fits on my motorcyle

  • @2thlesswithta2s2
    @2thlesswithta2s2 2 года назад +2

    Hi there. Great review on the CR Scan Lizard scanner. I’m watching the low-cost scanner tech, but I’m not ready to pull the trigger yet. Yes the precision is there, but the scanned surfaces are still pretty wonky.
    Anyway, I have some Fusion 360 mesh pointers for you. I’m not an expert, but I’ve been getting a lot of experience over the last 6 months or so.
    First, instead of using the INSERT tool on the right side of the SOLID toolbar, switch to the MESH tool tab & use the INSERT MESH tool on the far left of the toolbar. You will gain a lot more control of the mesh parameters, including units used to import. Then you can change those parameters later by clicking the operation in the timeline.
    Second, you can create a sketch element where the mesh body intersects a plane, much like you would with PROJECT INTERSECT on a solid body. To do this, place a construction plane where you want the intersection sketch to be. Then while still in the MESH tool tab, select the CREATE MESH SECTION SKETCH tool (3rd from left). Then you can do measurements directly on the intersection sketch, or you can add sketch elements to mate with the mesh-body.
    Third, you can go back to the SOLID toolbar & create solid bodies from the intersection sketch you just created. I you’re adding volume features to the model, it may be enough to leave them as solid bodies. But if you want to do subtractive or cut operations, you will need to convert them to mesh bodies first. To do that, back in the MESH toolbar, select the TESSELLATE tool (second from left). Be careful to select the REFINEMENT level that gives you enough detail without overwhelming your processor.
    Fourth, MESH COMBINE works much the same as SOLID COMBINE, with ability to Join, Intersect, Cut, or Merge mesh bodies. MESH PLANE CUT is almost like SOLID SPLIT BODY, except that it only works on a plane.
    Happy meshing!

  • @TheIamgibbo
    @TheIamgibbo 2 года назад +7

    I could certainly make use of one of those. Would be interesting to do things like scanning a bumper to be able to custom design and print vents or grilles

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Most mechanical pieces there is likely an easier way, but for trim pieces it’s likely essential…. Gonna keep playing and let you guys know! 👍

    • @TheIamgibbo
      @TheIamgibbo 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport sweet. Doing those complex curves is certainly not easy. Would take a lot of test prints to get right without the scanner.
      But it's good to see new 3d scanners at what will hopefully be a lower price point. Still outside my budget, but they're getting closer!

    • @Perceivedshift
      @Perceivedshift 2 года назад

      I think it would be easier and cheaper to cover the bumper with tape/plastic, mark it up to add texture, then use a camera to capture at all angles. Import images into meshroom...and now you have a 3D model you can clean up and use.

    • @TheIamgibbo
      @TheIamgibbo 2 года назад

      @@Perceivedshift I guess that makes it a bit cheaper to do. Haven't tried photogrammetry but it might be worth giving it a go

  •  2 года назад +2

    Wow wow wow!
    Leave it up to Creality to mainstream what was once exclusive and expensive, bringing down to a consumer level! 👍👏👏👏👏
    Truly magnificent and I absolutely plan to buy!
    I have a LOT of projects that can benefit from an accurate point cloud especially since I'm buying a house that needs some invested elbow grease.
    But most importantly, I'd be getting for my cars, a 1974 Datsun 260 with a lot of parts that can't be found anymore or are so astronomically high in price it's bullox. Also have a 2015 Mustang that I'd like to try making various aero bits for to help improve my track times (these cars make a lot of swirling eddies in rear and underneath)

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      I am impressed with it, and I think a lot of people who are disappointed on here are likely expecting more from consumer scanners.
      As for a whole room I dont think this is the toy, the iPhone LIDAR seems good for that, but aero pieces to pick up panels… yeah, I reckon it’s gonna help you out! 👍

    •  2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport not whole room stuff but just small irreplaceable bits. Like my door handles; they're original to the house and I quit like them but they're worn out and their inner workings have geometry that will be hard for me to replicate freehanded.
      So I can scan them, print them then cast them in aluminum or iron so I can preserve the look and authenticity as much as possible

  • @_coffeeandcigars
    @_coffeeandcigars 2 года назад +28

    Would love to see how an enginebay comes out! I used Photogrammetry so far for my diy scans but never a real scanner :)

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +5

      I will try it out… just need a better laptop! 😂

    • @djordjeblaga7815
      @djordjeblaga7815 2 года назад +12

      For Photogrammetry I always just take a video at 30fps and split it into single frames afterwards. Makes for quick and intuitive scanning with pretty good results ;)

    • @MrThechrisstuff
      @MrThechrisstuff 2 года назад

      This isn't bad at all for home gamer setup. I run a few metrology grade 3D scanners at work, obviously, they smoke this system but the price has me curious.

    • @daanyl
      @daanyl 2 года назад

      @@djordjeblaga7815 i will try that ! Thanks

    • @fsouzajr
      @fsouzajr 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport forget laptos, as they are too thermally and power restricted. much better to do this on a proper desktop.

  • @kylelammie4621
    @kylelammie4621 2 года назад

    Thank you thank you thank you! This is the exact video I wished someone would do for the Revopoint scanner.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Funny that… I happen to know someone with a Pop and is on the Pop2 KS…. 🤔

  • @LearnEverythingAboutDesign
    @LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 года назад +2

    Great video! Really impressive scanner!!! I am shocked by the accuracy!
    If you need any help learning the mesh tools in Fusion 360 I would be happy to lend a hand. With the flange on your idle air valve you can create a mesh section sketch, and then edit that sketch and then use "Fit curves to mesh section". Fusion will allow you to place circles, lines and splines based on the mesh section sketch. It does a pretty good job of averaging the mesh section to place a circle. I did a BMW motor mount off a pretty bad scan and it was really close!

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Cheers bud, I am gonna need to work on that part of my Fusion game, I started with 2D CAD so parametric 3D comes easy…
      Just checked your channel and looks very useful! The kinematic stuff is very nice! Sub’d 👍

    • @LearnEverythingAboutDesign
      @LearnEverythingAboutDesign 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport Thank You!!

  • @mrclarkey
    @mrclarkey 2 года назад +1

    I used 'Openscan' with a Bluetooth camera shutter paired with a Pixel 4 XL camera phone to scan a tow eye cover for a old Citroen. For a DIY photogrammetry setup it worked very well indeed.

  • @donutreligion2979
    @donutreligion2979 2 года назад

    And I'll see my lizard come from California to Florida in a few days. It has been an exciting journey.

  • @nazirzh
    @nazirzh 2 года назад +9

    can you do more test with bigger objects like the object in the end? Especially when you align multiple scans together over big distances the accuracy will drop significantly and that’s where most cheaper scanners come to their limits!

    • @gamerpaddy
      @gamerpaddy Год назад

      just align and mesh them in cloudcompare

  • @qpidrc9454
    @qpidrc9454 2 года назад

    Thank you very much for this in-depth review!

  • @vrfxrealtime
    @vrfxrealtime 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this! I learned a lot of things how to handle it myself here :)

  • @mariosnikolaou5212
    @mariosnikolaou5212 2 года назад

    Really informative video. I hope it helps you with the itb's as the itb's made me come to your channel.

  • @jonwebb9261
    @jonwebb9261 2 года назад +3

    This is really impressive! I’ve used £100k laser scanners with £25k a year software and this is not even 10x worse let a loan 100x! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +2

      I think the tech is just gonna run and run…. It’s usable now and can do a lot. I can’t wait to get stuck into projects!

    • @alvaroaugustomeridio
      @alvaroaugustomeridio 2 года назад +1

      When people start throwing these numbers around that means the reviewed product is still Extremely far away from the reach of your average Joe

    • @alvaroaugustomeridio
      @alvaroaugustomeridio 2 года назад

      @Joe if it's the same quality, or near enough it a very good price

  • @MakingforMotorsport
    @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +3

    The KickStarter is now LIVE! If you want to pledge to it then please consider using this link to help support the channel! 👍
    creality-cr-scan-lizard.kckb.st/f6f711d9

    • @S09Engineering
      @S09Engineering 2 года назад

      Crap! I just pledged, but I didn't know about your link. Sorry.

  • @tribaldesigns
    @tribaldesigns 2 года назад +1

    Another great video as always. I should be recieving my Revopoint POP 2 shortly which is a similar beastie. I'm excited to see what can be done with these.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Let me know how the Pop2 goes, I haven’t played with one yet…. Hopefully the KS starts delivering soon.. 👍

    • @thomashenderson3901
      @thomashenderson3901 2 года назад +1

      @Gary Chenery I am looking forward to a back to back test of these two. Nearly went for the POP2 kick starter and sorry I didn't, but maybe the creality is the way to go?

    • @tribaldesigns
      @tribaldesigns 2 года назад +1

      @@thomashenderson3901 I think the POP 2 might have it on portability, I've no experience with scanners so just going on the specs. At these prices it's going to be win win no matter what product.

    • @thomashenderson3901
      @thomashenderson3901 2 года назад

      @@tribaldesigns You could well be right.

  • @jannes351
    @jannes351 2 года назад +3

    That handheld scan actually looks very competent! I'd imagine a statue or big outdoors object could look quite decent :)

  • @raymondhordies4807
    @raymondhordies4807 2 года назад

    Thank you very much for this clear video!

  • @Leafyfpv
    @Leafyfpv 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this!

  • @BMWE30RESTORATION
    @BMWE30RESTORATION Год назад

    very interesting content, thanks

  • @wastedblues2
    @wastedblues2 2 года назад

    Nice! Years ago there was a race car builder on a forum who scanned a proven suspension setup and recreated it for his own car, needless to say he won a race competition outright.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      “Reverse engineering” is absolutely the best way of saying copying ever invented! 😂

    • @OkammakO
      @OkammakO 2 года назад

      And that person's name was Racing Point ;)

  • @dannyaustin84
    @dannyaustin84 2 года назад

    That looks like a right faff! Thanks for the video.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      😂 isn’t everything? To be fair, I does get fairly slick after a while but I’ve not even touched the 3D modelling with it yet… and I reckon that’ll take even longer! 😂

  • @MakingforMotorsport
    @MakingforMotorsport  Год назад

    If you are interesting in buying a Cr-Scan Lizard, then please consider helping out the channel and using the affiliate links on the description page… thanks!

  • @KansaiRiderJapan
    @KansaiRiderJapan 2 года назад

    Love your content my guy 👌

  • @joelstolarski2244
    @joelstolarski2244 2 года назад

    Excited about it. KS pledged. Scan to F360, going to be fun.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      It’s a great tool to have! If you used my link to pledge, thanks for the support! 👍

  • @JJFX-
    @JJFX- 2 года назад

    Great video! Love to see people still rocking the Intel X58 platform. FYI if you are're still running stock, you should really look into overclocking that old 6 core Xeon. It's fairly straightforward to push all 12 threads to at least ~4.0 GHz or so without much risk and it'll feel like a new computer. I have a W3670 and a couple of other Xeons from that era that have been OC'd for years and they're still going strong. Those old Intel platforms are great.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +2

      Nice!!! This has come at just the right time mate, just swapped up the laptop (for obvious reasons) and being able to level up the desktop is perfect!
      Now to just work out how the hell to do it! 😂😂

    • @JJFX-
      @JJFX- 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport Well if you can tell me your mothboard model I can let you know if it's worth trying and point you in the right direction. As long as you don't have some OEM workstation board, the BIOS options in these old platforms are fairly straightforward and there's a wealth of info out there for them.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      @@JJFX- haha! That’s exactly with I have I think! I’ll have a look tonight 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @pogle63
    @pogle63 2 года назад

    With the rise of 3d printing and the great results you can get from a pimped up Ender 3d which I use, I think to be able to use a decent affordable 3d scanner to create files to print is brilliant. So far 3d scanners have been not very good and very expensive, since this is a CREALITY product and I really love my printer I am going to give this a punt on kickstarter - I vowed never again to back a tech product on Kick Starter as I have been ripped off too many times but this being Creality I am going to give them benefit of the doubt to deliver - Great video many thanks - I have backed it.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      I am consistently impressed with the results from this, quicker and more accurate than by hand and although I have got by without one, but now I have I am constantly thinking or things to do with it.
      I am confident you’ll enjoy it, and if you used my link, thanks very much!

  • @KobraVR
    @KobraVR 2 года назад +1

    14:00 "The feet look..a little messy.."

  • @PeterTremonti
    @PeterTremonti 2 года назад

    I love the videos. Keep it up!

  • @Bravolvi
    @Bravolvi 2 года назад

    Very good video and results

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 2 года назад +1

    This is super cool! I have next to no use for this right this second, but I'd still love to have one. I do actually have one major project this would help a lot with. Plus lots of smaller items it could help with in the future. If the price is say $500-$1000 I could definitely see picking one up in the next few years, once I actually get a 3D printer and have some more funds. Really good overview. I mean no offense, but even your desktop is far from cutting edge, so most computers should be able to handle this. You really should upgrade when you can. It will make your modeling experience much more pleasant!

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +3

      How dare you tell me that my £150 from eBay, 10year old computer with its £40 Facebook marketplace graphic card isn’t up to date!!! It’s got an SSD!!! 😂😂😂

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 года назад +2

      @@MakingforMotorsport Hahaha I bet that SSD made it feel like a whole new PC! That said, yeah, still may be time for an update when funds permit. You can keep your current GPU. ;)

    • @damustermann
      @damustermann 2 года назад +2

      1K puts you in the reach of an Einscan SE, and that is a lot more capable than this Creality Kinect knock-off. I guess the CR-Scan Lizard should be in the price-range of $199 - $399

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 года назад +1

      @@damustermann That's fair. I would def do a ton of research before purchasing any system anyways. Thanks for the info.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +2

      I mean, let’s not pretend that the Einscan SE is a perfect solution, and even the scans I have seen with that aren’t perfect even in the perfect low light, correctly sized object, it’d be useless for 90% of what a car guy may use a scanner for (mainly handheld).
      Now this may not be perfect but it comes enough bases to be useful…
      I think unless you are dropping some serious cash for a full on pro level tool, the usage case will be narrow or the performance will be less than metrology….

  • @kobotherobohobo
    @kobotherobohobo 2 года назад

    As someone with an extremely uncommon car (R30 Skyline wagon), especially here in the States, I jumped on this the second I saw the kickstarter. So many parts don't exist anymore, and there's next to zero aftermarket support, so having this around, and a 3D printer, is going to save me a heck of a lot of headaches. I've also been trying to design a bolt-on IRS replacement for the solid axle and this is going to be a gamechanger for that as well.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +2

      Love the old R30! Working on a video now how to go from scanned stl to a full parameterised model…
      You may find it useful 👍😂👌

  • @Artificial.Unintelligence
    @Artificial.Unintelligence 2 года назад +2

    looks decent; im still skeptical of details on more organic parts.. also a little bummed with you not actually showing what you show in the preview thumbnail - why show that at all if thats not what you scanned and had as a result?

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      I did scan it, and that was the result, but at 30mins+ the video was too long and the part didn’t really add to the video… but is more eye catching than the other parts…

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport that was the more impressive result as far as I can tell, would have been worth at least a 3min 'i also scanned this, here's the point cloud and final result, -insert example dimension-' 🍻

  • @Twentse3DExperience
    @Twentse3DExperience 2 года назад

    Super nice good explanation

  • @DiThi
    @DiThi 2 года назад +1

    "Slam mode" means how it merges multiple frames into one single cloud. Texture is probably more accurate if there's enough non-reflective detail.

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 2 года назад

    Very interesting for sure

  • @nickb2179
    @nickb2179 2 года назад +3

    for hand held mode, have a look at a tracking rig - like cameras have, take a lot of wobble out of the job! sure you could knock something up like a oooh skateboard

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +5

      Hmm…. I have just bought a gimble…. 🤔

    • @super_slo
      @super_slo 2 года назад +2

      Proper printing made a camera rig that uses gcode and klipper to programmatically control it. Extremely nifty.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 2 года назад +1

      @@MakingforMotorsport Gimble plus one of those spring loaded lamp fixtures and you're basically Hollywood!

  • @LXGspec
    @LXGspec 2 года назад +2

    Great showcase, I'm wondering what's the biggest size object it can scan if pushing it? I'd be very interested in scanning entire fenders to modify them in 3D, do you reckon it can handle it?

  • @ianhaylock7409
    @ianhaylock7409 2 года назад +1

    Would be nice to see you have a go at photogrammetry to see what sort of results you get with a large object. I reckon it would be better than with this scanner.

  • @jt16omes
    @jt16omes 2 года назад +1

    This seems very good, depending on the price I might pick one up.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      As time goes on I reckon it’s the kind thing everyone will have as they get cheaper… the Kickstarter price is revealed on the 10th

  • @MakingforMotorsport
    @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +3

    All KS pledgers :- I am sorry but I have no more hard information than you received in the email from KS. The FB group seems to have the most up to info, I can’t post a link here but you know how to find it 👍

    • @tommyhudson9858
      @tommyhudson9858 2 года назад

      Once again backers get scammed by kick starter.

    • @DMalenfant1
      @DMalenfant1 2 года назад

      I don't have a FB. Maybe Elon can buy them up too.

    • @sixteenornumber
      @sixteenornumber 2 года назад

      I know it's not your fault, but it would be a nice gesture to post a short video addressing the issue.

    • @pitanpainter2140
      @pitanpainter2140 2 года назад

      Received my KS pledge earlier this week, so they should be coming through.
      Software documentation is very basic: this video is the first I've seen, and shows better how to use the S/W than Creality's leaflet.

  • @mrnlce7939
    @mrnlce7939 2 года назад +1

    Any idea on how much it's going to cost? Have you tried photogrammetry?
    Very interesting product and review.
    Great video. Keep up the good work.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Hi there, the first 300 units on the Kick Starter are $210, a 50% discount apparently… this goes live today at 9am EST. If you are thinking about buying please consider to check back here and use my affiliate link to help support the channel.

    • @hi-side29
      @hi-side29 2 года назад

      Are they available now and if so where so I got to get one.

  • @ducomaritiem7160
    @ducomaritiem7160 2 года назад

    A bit of babypowder on the model gives nice scan results...

  • @christiansrensen3810
    @christiansrensen3810 2 года назад +1

    Great video and product. But if you change the graficcard in your deskrig, you work in fusion360 will be a hole other product to work with..and your scanning software for the lizard would also run much Better...
    If you buy fx 2060gtx.. you don't need the Rtx for this.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Yeah, my £150 pc and £40 Fb marketplace gpu aren’t the best choice….😂
      I have however just bought a new laptop so hopefully….. it’s gonna work abit better!

  • @Doogleraia
    @Doogleraia Год назад

    I would think the hardest thing to scan to REALLY test it, would be headlight reflectors from older style headlights. So it has to face off against not only a reflective surface, but also how well it takes the critical shapes and geometry needed for that beam-pattern to match up.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  Год назад

      With A LOT of dulling spray, that could work well…

    • @Doogleraia
      @Doogleraia Год назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport That would be extremely interesting to see if it's possible. Would be huge for restoring older cars with parts that are no longer available!

  • @ryansmithza
    @ryansmithza 2 года назад

    Thats very cool! For scanning objects that aren't on the turn table maybe a rail that holds the scanner steady while it moves from side to side could help. I'm just guessing and wondering 🤷‍♂️

  • @rickphillips7221
    @rickphillips7221 2 года назад +1

    different software's will use different up axis mostly Y or Z axis as the up axis, so if one uses Y as up and the other uses Z as up your model will be oriented wrong.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Yeah. Fusion360 is Y-up by default… which I just don’t get, z is up surely???

  • @GeoDelGonzo
    @GeoDelGonzo 2 года назад

    2 thou tolerance, that's good! This seems pretty regal.

  • @dge4560
    @dge4560 2 года назад

    Great vids. Would like to see how good it will be on skin. A facial scan maybe.

  • @knoopx
    @knoopx 2 года назад +2

    i dont get 3d scanners. the output without a proper reversing tool ($$$) is mostly useless regardless how much they cost. am i missing something? If you are going to CAD from scratch over the scanned object is a 3d scanner worth it considering they are quite expensive?

    • @Stephane1995
      @Stephane1995 2 года назад +1

      "proper" scanners are used for metrology

  • @joelsanitago4126
    @joelsanitago4126 Год назад

    I acquired a CR Lizard scanner. But the scanned parts are not within the precision range of .002 ". which indicates the product .... They have variation of dimensions to .025"

    Thank you for any information that might guide me to find a solution

  • @billysgeo
    @billysgeo 2 года назад

    Hmmmm… how about duplicating complex keys?

  • @aperturemichelle
    @aperturemichelle 2 года назад

    I love how a rather large company is using pledge to KickStarter for a product they definitely have the resources to develop and sell on there own..

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Yeah… I see your point but I don’t think Creality is using it that way… the product is already developed (I’ve used it) so this seems to be more a method for drumming up interest and leveraging social media rather funding R&D…. And I’d be really disappointed if they try to use the “it’s a pledge not a purchase” to get out of customer support….
      That said, I sure some positive cash flow doesn’t hurt…

  • @MakingforMotorsport
    @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

    Kick Starter early bird price released - $210 for the first 300pieces!!!! 🤑💵💵🤑
    Check out the KickStarter here bit.ly/3GnmJ1l
    And if you want to buy consider supporting the channel and checking back here for an affiliate link soon!

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Looks like it’ll be at 9am EST (2pm GMT I think!).
      I haven’t had my link yet, should be getting it as soon as it goes live… (but don’t wait for my link if it means missing out on the 65% off!)

  • @Martial-Mat
    @Martial-Mat Год назад

    I'd like to have seen a 3d print to see if that noisy surface comes out at print scale

  • @johanholm1745
    @johanholm1745 2 года назад

    Good video
    I was about person 150 to order on the kickstar 😆
    While waiting to get my own camera home, I would love if you did a test on a front fender or a bumper as these are the kind of objects I would scan
    Thanks for an interesting channel
    Best Regards Johan Holm Sweden

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Wow, you were in quick! I am debating doing more vids at the moment as I have other projects to get on with but I might do a quick one scanning multiple things…

    • @johanholm1745
      @johanholm1745 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport Would be interesting to see how it handles larger objects with complex shapes
      I have only found movies where they scan smaller objects your are among the largest objects I have found

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 2 года назад

    I don't know if I would use it for any engineering but if you needed to scan a dog toy for some reason it works OK.

  • @REDLINEBECKONZ
    @REDLINEBECKONZ 2 года назад

    Good stuff budd.

  • @Kommentiert_
    @Kommentiert_ 2 года назад

    Hmmm now i don´t know if the CR-Scan Lizard or the Revopoint Mini is the better option. The CR-Scan Lizard is about 250€ cheaper. The most things i will scan are some engine parts and stuff like your control valve. From the feeling I find the method with the blue light better with the Revopoint. I also learned from some videos that some LED lights interfere negatively with the scanner. It doesn't matter if it's a CR or a Revo, it's still a lot of money and I don't want to buy the wrong one.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Unfortunately, it doesn’t feel like there is a 1 size fits all and at the consumer end of the range each scanner has its ups and downs.
      The mini is giving great results (I haven’t tried it in person) but for most of my applications it is well over the top and to limited in terms of scan area, the Pop2 seems like another good option and might be the overall better scanner than the lizard, once you factor in the software experience (not played with the Pop2 but that’s my impression), and the CrScan is the best at body panels and larger objects.
      It’s a big investment but I think either the Lizard or Pop2 is the best, most flexible tool unless your going to be doing regularly large or very small objects…

  • @JulianMakes
    @JulianMakes 2 года назад +1

    Have you tried a 3d mouse? It was a game changer for me. I got the little 3dconexion mini. It’s amazing. Also how does this scanner compare to a revopoint pop 2? Thanks!

  • @fernandomarsalcaldera6158
    @fernandomarsalcaldera6158 2 года назад +1

    that is amazing, shame that the Kickstarter doesn't began yet, I like to know what price it gonna have

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +4

      The 10th I think… they’re gonna give me another link when it’s live… I’ll pin it to the comments 👍

    • @super_slo
      @super_slo 2 года назад +1

      No insight into what they'll be asking for it?

    • @Pygar2
      @Pygar2 2 года назад

      @@super_slo The KS starts at 9 AM EST on the 10th; the price is a Deep Dark secret 'till then!

  • @Longerofficial
    @Longerofficial 2 года назад

    Friend,I really appreciate your work. We are looking for reviewers, would you like to review Longer's 3D printer & laser engraver?

  • @mikemikeyee
    @mikemikeyee 2 года назад

    So good

  • @ajhartmanaero
    @ajhartmanaero 2 года назад

    I want a scanner so bad. Thanks for the insight into this setup. Edit: How much better is this than the current one available, the CR Scan-01?

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      Hay man, at the moment I have no idea how this compares but it seems good. I hope to get hands on with other scanners soon, but legend has it the CR01 is the best for panels (therefore aero stuff) but this might do that too…. A few weeks and hopefully I will have more answers for you 👍

    • @ajhartmanaero
      @ajhartmanaero 2 года назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport yeah I’m curious what you find out. This video sent me down a rabbit hole of inexpensive scanner videos last night as well as I finally figured out how to work with and modify stl files in OnShape. I kinda like the Pop2 at the moment as it seems more portable so I could just scan a section of someone’s car right at the track.

  • @robertwalsh5461
    @robertwalsh5461 2 года назад +2

    In the time around 2006-2008 this took a $100K Steinbickler camera. I know, I was making customer supplied parts into .STL files at cost to the customer of about $1,200.oo for a simple part like that Dino toy.
    I am an expert and that $1,200 billed, took me about 10 minutes with perhaps 5 more to make what’s called a “water tight manifold” then perhaps five more to type out and send him his bill. Once paid, I’d send him his . STL file.
    I was making about $35,000 a day and had paid off my camera in less then a week. It was like printing money but easier!!!
    So I am curious of what kind of accuracy you are getting. I was guaranteeing my customers better than 25 microns!

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      I think 25microns is ambitious with this but sub 0.1mm is definitely achievable and I got 1 measurement within 50microns but surface flatness of the mesh is coming into play then so there is some loss of precision there…
      So, not metrology grade but very usable for a home gamer setup!

  • @Winther83
    @Winther83 2 года назад

    something one need to take into account as well that even good calibrated calipers often has a 0.05mm margin of error so a micrometer would be more "fair" to measure these tests since their margin of error is smaller then the 3D scanner, having a scanner and a measuring device with the same tolerance of error can really shift the result.
    still an interesting and good video and i'm just a nitpicker.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      I should’ve gone to the garage and got my Mitutoyo calipers… but I haven’t had them calibrated recently 😂

  • @kurtveldeman9291
    @kurtveldeman9291 2 года назад

    Why don't you use anti-reflection spray? Should make the models come out way nicer. I scanned a lot with a GOM Atos Triple, for very high accuracy always prep the parts with airbrush, titanium dioxide and methanol mixture... Also spray cans exist, but you'll lose a bit of accuracy.

  • @ElGoogKO
    @ElGoogKO 2 года назад

    Hello,
    I have a curiosity, if you haven't tried before.
    If you have access to professional 3d scanners could you please use to compare the results of this creality to one of those?!
    Lets say pick a car part, like an engine cover of sorts, or the steering wheel (the modern cars have intricate design steering wheel centre area, so i think it would be great.
    And just show us a comparison of the object they output.
    I am really curious how the fine details and ridges and creases look in the final object
    Thank you

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 2 года назад +2

    I wonder if it would work better if you put a small LED ring light on the scanner, generally more light is better.

    • @joehackenberg30
      @joehackenberg30 2 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing. I also wish that it did photogrammetry alongside of it. I think it would be so much better. it my take a lot more time but it would be worth it to me.

  • @GenuineNPC
    @GenuineNPC 2 года назад

    Ask electroboom, as a US citizen I can confirm we all have fire hazards in our sockets

  • @makingcookingfixing
    @makingcookingfixing 2 года назад +1

    I am not so impressed with the finish of the scan. Another scanner I keep getting advertised at is 3D Revopoint, supposedly that one scans exactly as the part itself, would be nice if you could review that scanner. Thanks.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      I believe as far as consumer level scanners go, this is pretty good, Pop included, and any improvement on these consumer grade devices means literally thousands of pounds.
      I do plan to do a bit of a scanner showdown at some point so keep your eyes peeled! 👍

  • @Aikano9
    @Aikano9 Год назад

    I wonder how the iPhone 12/13/14 pro/pro max would compare, seeing as they all have LiDAR and incredibly good cameras

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  Год назад

      Funny you should ask, I will be doing a comparison of lots of scanners, including the iPhone 13 Pro (what I am replying on now) and I’ll try that alongside….
      Spoiler alert! - the iPhone won’t do well 😂

    • @Aikano9
      @Aikano9 Год назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport I guess that makes sense. now that I think about, it’s mainly used to place objects in the real world for AR, which doesn’t require a very high resolution.

  • @ze_german2921
    @ze_german2921 Год назад

    Are Laser Scanners getting Better and Cheaper? Could a small scanner like this scan an Engine Compartment?

  • @EmbraceMaking
    @EmbraceMaking 2 года назад +1

    Any recommendations for turning the scan into a usable solid model that can be edited in autodesk or solidworks? Mesh files are terrible to work with.

    • @batman_uwu
      @batman_uwu 2 года назад

      In my workplace, i use Geomagic Design X. It is pretty good for reverse engineering and all the history tree can be carried to solidworks. It handles mesh well. But it is not an automatic process. You kinda have to make it from scratch but the software is helping with a lot tools. Its pretty expensive tho.

    • @sugarbooty
      @sugarbooty 2 года назад

      I think the best way would be to make a scan, put it into CAD, and make a model following the scan. Time intensive but much less so than having to do it without the mesh

  • @akumakazenoryu
    @akumakazenoryu 2 года назад +1

    if you share the scan of the intake manifold i would love you to moon and back

  • @DingDongDrift
    @DingDongDrift 2 года назад

    just ordered mine on kickstarter, i have the revopoint pop scanner as well but it doesn't do flat panels very well. could you do a video of this scanner on something like a hood or a door?

  • @4abetterfuture
    @4abetterfuture Месяц назад

    Can I recommend for you a budget (~ish) laptop with an AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS with dual graphics + AMD Radeon 780M & NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6Gb. They're out there, mine is Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Gaming Laptop. Maybe get it some some extra RAM. Performance wise using various 3D modelling programs it is nearly up there with my old Alienware (now obselete & currently unalive) R15 Ryzen Edition & the Lenovo was the best thing, bang for buck, that i could find to replace it.
    As for a Desktop, anything based around an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D is going to be hard to beat.

  • @WildebeestLabs
    @WildebeestLabs 2 года назад

    I'd like to see this attached to a cable rig on large scale objects. Also would help control tracking I'd think

  • @Blackinterceptor999
    @Blackinterceptor999 2 года назад +1

    The price's are what is keeping 3d scanning from becoming mainstream.

    • @DatL24
      @DatL24 2 года назад

      $300 USD is too expensive? Bud, some lenses for cars are $400+ a pop; I'm looking to get this for scanning some Ferrari 250 front marker light lenses because they're hideously expensive, and I think I can print them in SLA for a pittance and beat the hell out of them on my little 60's Fiat that takes the same lenses, sadly

  • @Todestelzer
    @Todestelzer Год назад

    If you do more reverse engineering I recommend to use GOM inspect (free version)
    There you can pretty easy align the mesh and creat planes. And planes aligned to other planes.
    In the end Export the model and the planes as iges file and import it into Fusion or other CAD. 👋

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  Год назад +1

      You might want check out latest video… GOM inspect used 👍👍👍. Need to learn more tho!

    • @Todestelzer
      @Todestelzer Год назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport Oh ok :D

    • @Todestelzer
      @Todestelzer Год назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport watched the vid buuut you can make your life probably much easier if you use GOM for the plane extraction too.
      ruclips.net/video/V3xAwpENbU4/видео.html

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  Год назад

      @@Todestelzer yeah, so I have done this, which is great. But, there is a big problem. Pretty much all of the machined faces on a part like this should be directly parallel to the original planes….
      And planes such as the drive face and the brake caliper mounting face, should also be parallel, sure there will be a tolerance on a part, but in design they should be parallel, no reason for them not to be.
      If I use fitted planes on all of these faces then I won’t have parallel faces, great for inspection, but not great for design intent RE where these parallel faces really should be.
      Now I am trying to work out GOM so it can fit “offset planes” but it’s alittle trickier than Fusion!

    • @Todestelzer
      @Todestelzer Год назад

      @@MakingforMotorsport You can constrain the extracted plane to another (extracted) plane or even the reference plane.
      Everything should be square to each other.
      The learning curve is steep in the beginning. But I think it's worth to look into it.
      I don't used it much myself yet because I found out of this program recently too 😁

  • @frankthiele6539
    @frankthiele6539 2 года назад

    67,41 - 67,35 = Error 0,06 (at 26:10) not 0,07mm
    i got much better results by using my canon 600d and manual rotation. never seen such a horrible mesh.
    way too expensive for this results....
    but thanx for the review.

  • @shuflie
    @shuflie 2 года назад

    Big question is if you weren't given this as a pre kickstarter promotion would you have sunk your own money into it knowing now how well it works?

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад +1

      At the $210 special offer it’s a no brainer, at the $330 currently it’s also a no brainer just as a toy. At $600 I’d need some jobs that require it… and now that I have it, I just keep on thinking of jobs for it 👍

  • @efrenjimenezcruz
    @efrenjimenezcruz 2 года назад

    Thanks for the vid! Iv recently got into 3D scanning. I wanna get into wide body parts but so far have had to use my 360 Kinect which has worked but hopefully I can get that $210 price! Do you know what day it goes out?

  • @jorgem3625
    @jorgem3625 2 года назад

    You should try Revopoint POP 2, they say is amazing, the software does a incredible job, and the accuracy is very good, the models are cleaner than this.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Yeah, I am totally new to scanning and the POP range seems good, to be honest all this tech for a consumer is fantastic…

  • @zbigniewwielgus1249
    @zbigniewwielgus1249 Год назад

    How about scanning small black parts from cars? Did you try that? Is that good, or bad for this?

  • @ricardoiarossi
    @ricardoiarossi 2 года назад

    Maybe the câmera is too high compared to the object?

  • @jbrou123
    @jbrou123 2 года назад

    Looks promising but needs a little work. I'd like to see this compared to scanning with an I-phone and an app like EM3D Scanning. The phone may not have that tight of a resolution, but I have seen impressive scans for that $50 app.
    The thing that bothers me is Creality is a 10's of millions of dollars company. Why do they need a Kick Starter campaign?

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      I haven’t played with the Em3D but I have played with PolyCam and it’s a different world. The iPhone just doesn’t have the resolution to get any details. I can’t compare back to back as I don’t have lidar on my phone but when using other peoples I was impressed but I have decided to leave it until the iPhone14 comes out.

  • @jt16omes
    @jt16omes 2 года назад

    Could you try the manifold scan again with the dry shampoo and upload both scans for comparison, ideally the unprocessed point clouds. I am considering getting one of these to help me with my cad projects, since I don’t have a budget for one of the big boy scanners and they usually don’t support mac os.

    • @MakingforMotorsport
      @MakingforMotorsport  2 года назад

      Hi there, if you send an email to the address on my channel page I can try to send you a point cloud for you to sample…

  • @legendarydave333
    @legendarydave333 2 года назад

    Well, I feel like I've been "BONED"...After completing the Creality Kickstarter and waiting for shipment on the SCAM Lizard, I got a message that Kickstarter took them down because of a lawsuit... I'm losing faith that I'll ever see it! NOW THEY QUIT UPDATING ME!!!

  • @airsoftargonaut3738
    @airsoftargonaut3738 2 года назад

    What would be good to line it up when taking 2 scans is if you could put 2 dots on the model then use them to line the model or let the program align it?