Jim Ross shoots on Ric Flair taking independent bookings after his retirement match
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2020
- For over forty years Jim Ross has been the Voice of Wrestling. From starting as referee in the regional territories to becoming the Executive Vice President for WWE, nobody has a story quite like Jim Ross. From recruiting and hiring some of the biggest superstars in the industry to providing the soundtrack for the most important moments in wrestling history, “Good Ole JR” was there for it all. Join us every Thursday morning as Conrad Thompson grills JR like you’ve never heard before, uncut and uncensored!
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I like how Conrad keeps it professional even though Ric Flair is his father in law
He was booked to appear in my local town.. it absolutely blew my mind.. it’s a tiny nothing town in the middle of South Yorkshire.. I couldn’t get my head around it..
I remember this - ric flair coming to the doncaster dome - it was insane
CARTER Inc. I wish I was referring to donny dome... that would’ve made more sense... it was a community hall in wath upon dearne!
@@markj175 wow - the nature boy was headed to Wath?! Now that i didn't know - that would have been amazing - and totally insane at the same time!
Did he appear at the show?
Scott no, I think he signed with TNA around the same time, so it never materialised
To me, Sunday Night Heat was at its best when it was basically the preshow to the PPV. It helped add a little extra hype to the show.
Other than that...yeah, it was mostly skip-able.
Rick Flair should...save with Conrad
I remember enjoying a lot of stuff on Heat. Stevie Richards stands out as one of the most consistent guys. Raven, Aaron Idol(Damien Sandow), and Val Venis were also good.
Well, he was the self-proclaimed GM of Sunday Night Stevie lol
Ric still had bills to pay based on living way above his means plus his multiple divorces just let the man makes some money
Fck Ric Flair!
I would've liked him to let flair make it too but he was also paying him $500K a year to work for him so wasn't like Vince was trying to make him destitute.
500000 to sit at home and be an ambassador
Woooooo
All going to his 4 ex wives.
When has Ric been known to just sit at home?
@@ThirteenOhEight that’s why it caused problems. Vince was paying him to sit at home, Ric wanted/needed more money, sparking everything he did after Mania 24 away from WWE.
lmao the ad break mid sentence, of the last thing JR says
Does the uploader have the ability to decide where the ad break(s) happens?
Like Jesse Ventura has always said, “How are wrestlers independent contractors?”
If Jesse wants to pay them better, give them benefits, then he can start his own promotion.
fjvideo exactly or if they want certain thing get them put in your contract
fjvideo That literally has nothing to do with his point. Legally speaking, it’s on the employer to prove their paid people are independent contractors. If you look at the IRS rules governing independent contractors, WWE wrestlers are clearly employees.
Now get back to work before Vince, Stephanie, or Hunter catch you on RUclips.
StuUngar they are independent they have a contract that says they can only work for wwe while under said contract
Gorilla Glue Expert If they can only work for WWE, theyre not independent.
Am independent contractor is like a plumber. He can take jobs from anyone he wants. The individual with the contract also cannot tell the plumber how to perform his job, or when he is to do it. Out of courtesy, most will work when you want them to. But the only thing the contract does is promise that the plumber will complete the work he’s been tasked to do.
The WWE tells the wrestler when to perform, how they will perform, theyre not allowed to wrestle for another organization, even their social media is controlled.
In no way are they “independent.”
I'll disagree with Jr a little. There were occasions that Sunday night heat helped me convince the old man to get that nights ppv. Back in my broke college days. Which I kind of assumed was the real value of the show.
Are you talking when "Heat" was on MTV?
I remember Austin stunning everyone on Heat. Good days.
Yes Australia 🇦🇺 is a untapped market, for sure . Us Aussies love our Wrestling
Too bad there is so many restrictions there right now.
@@willt3223 don’t believe everything you read mate
Dont really believe if this is true if aussies really loved their wrestling I'm pretty sure by now it would have been a tapped market
@@willt3223 there is no state restrictions in Australia - that is old news - since a lot of people are triple vaccinated.
Australia is a dystopia. "Kneel before government, take your pills, inject your meds"
Much respect JR., I I have followed your career since college football commentating, UWF wrestling days. Kudos to you.
Listening at work. Thank you JR.
save your money, kids
Don't get in 4 divorces.
@@marmcd2003 Haha yeah that too.
I could listen to JR all day
Always love your voice energy & ability to amp up the matches Jr luv u buddy...
Maybe Vince knew that Flair always needs money so he gave him thdd green light. God knows how many millions Flair has pissed away.
Apparently his shoes cost more than my house.
Yeah Ric Flair is what happens when you base your life on an image...its superficial and doesnt end well most of the time
@@patkob2180 that sums it up pretty well.
@MAGICK MIKE prenups only protect assets acquired before marriage, which would usually include the money, but where you get screwed is having to pay for the lifestyle said woman got accustomed to while married to you (flair) but yeah definitely should have stopped getting married wooooooo 🍻
Flair snorted his money away.
speaking of wwe heat, i remember wwe velocity too
And shotgun and jakked.
it took 2 minutes 42 seconds to ask that question?
He's laying the groundwork for anyone not in the know or refreshing the memory of dedicated fans. Nothing wrong with that.
That burger looks amazing
Flair looks jacked in this thumbnail, he aged terribly in the last decade.
Ric was in surprisingly. Great shape for his retirement
Who remembers the semi truck match with Dustin? I was 14 or 15 yrs old so almost 25 yrs ago now that was a cool & funky match would luv to hear what jr thinks about it?
Yeah, great innovative match but ultimately it got Dusty, Dustin and Barry Darsow fired.
As if Conrad doesn't already know the details seeing that Ric is his father-in-law. Just sayin'😇
@ShadowAngel now hes trying to get into the pockets of the people that hear the pod casts I wouldn't trust him with a dollar of my money it will cost me 70 cents on the dollar if I ever dealt with fat boy
@@rageangerman1432 definitely
@Brendan Walters So since when is Megan not Ric Flairs daughter?😮
@Brendan Walters seriously they split already?
Only56 comments on a Jim Ross show about Ric Fucking Flair with is going out there guys hit that like button. J.R. I'm 37 in Corpus Christi Texas. I love your voice wrestling bin the 90z with your commentary are my love in my childhood. Thanks to you J.R. glad I can still enjoy you
What episode is this from ?
I love you JR
I don’t watch wrestling anymore im not a fan of the new era but i sure love too listen to you spit knowledge and I’m grateful for that.
Ric was headed into some bad times at this stage. He also had been reprimanded for his drinking too much while representing WWE with corporate partners. He then pawned the NWA belt with Highspots for $35k which Triple H ended up paying. Of course we know about the events that followed. Recently Ric did an interview about working for TNA and admitted he really needed money at that point.
So, What events followed? 🤔
Your username 😂😂
But Conrad says in this video that Ric was still getting paid $500K per year even though he was retired. Ric should have tried to tighten his spending habits and just enjoy being an ambassador to the WWE.
Funny, I thought Jr was interviewing Jr 😆 they sound so much alike
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks like this.
It sounds more like a younger J.R. interviewing an older J.R. ( and yes, I also thought for a while that J.R. was on the "Something to Wrestle about " podcast with the ultimate company/ yes man, Bruce Prichard.).
Any one on here thinking this is... is retarded ..... and doesnt know a thing about wrestling
@@hittingthegspot what are you talking about?
A good post
As Ric said NWA made him the star he was in the sport. He was the only man to hold the letter belts NWA and WWF. And he wrestled in front of the largest crowds ever in wrestling in Korea.
"Whether you like it or not, Mr. Sports Entertainment, you sre still in the WRESTLING business."
Well said, Jim.
Dude put a ribeye steak on the pan. Lol. Like hearing JRs thoughts. Best announcer there ever will be.
On Sunday night heat mr. perfect perfect Plex the big show I thought that was pretty impressive
Come on down to Australia JR
I respect the hell out of Flair but I don't think he looks at it as disrespectful I honestly thinks he just loves the wrestling business so damn much he can't stay out of the ring
Money,Money,Money was why Ric was doing Indy shows. Spent more than he made and owed his shirt to the IRS.
talent are considered by wwe as "independent contractors" to avoid giving any benefits them, but are contracted to wwe from working anywhere...so hows that work?
Patrick Kent exclusive independent contractors. I mean these guys are signing the contracts
Wrong title?
Let's shoot on Debra's WWE career
Sunday night heat will always be infamous for acolytes and public enemy, televised beating 😆 for me
not gonna talk about his TNA run huh?
Ric Flair doesn't even like talking about it....
Jim talking About its up to the wrestlers to perform.. As life long wrestling fan let me put that in terms.. Your character your gimmick your ability to use the mic and in ring ability hasnt changed to fans.. The reason wrestling seems dull these days cause nobody has it like they once did..
8 months later and wrestling is now the most exciting it’s been in over 20 years 🙏
That steak looks sooo good!
I thought that Heat was a good show. Even the big names appeared on the show on occasion like the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin, especially if there was a ppv that night.
Ric Flair is The Man. Its so sad seeing him wrestle now. He has nothing else to prove..😢
Jr's ego got the best of him.
How?
@@angelito1358 doesn't know when to leave well enough alone.
Didn't the rock and mankind have a match on Sunday night heat??? Anyone!
Yeah. It was on Halftime Heat(halftime of that year's Super Bowl). Mankind won the WWF championship using a forklift to pin the Rock.
As long as I can get my mitts on some Woo Wings, take my money.
I get it, but Vince knew DAMN well they were no threat to him or the WWE.....
Conrad love Meltzer
Mane that loser is a mark at heart
JR needs to go to NWA someday pro wrestling.
The wrestler...but with money...but hardships remain
I hate the whole Ric Flair retirement angle from 2008. The match at WMXXIV and the tribute he got on Raw was all pointless as he went on to wrestle in TNA.
Wwe stands for World Whatthehell Entertainment. Vince told me. He doesn't do wrestling.
"Giving credibility to a hall of fame other than his own" my god. The WWE Hall of fame is one of the worst black eyes in the American wrestling business. It kills itself with its own "credibility". Drew Carey? Pete Rose? Pro wrestling Hall of fame? Don't try to tell me it's some bizarre amalgamation of wrestling and entertainment and live television because first of all that's make believe BS in the fantasy world that is Vince McMahons destroyed decomposing mind (and Kevin dunn) second of all his contention is said here to be ric flair giving a different Hall of fame credibility. And while there's definitely plenty of shit you can give the NWA at least they're not saying it's a bizarro Hall of fame and inducting mama june or the tiger guy right after ric flair.
Ric Flair was such a fool with his money. He basically had a lifetime contract for $500k a year with WWE. All he had to do is show up on tv a few times a year. He walked away from that to go on the road collecting $5k-$10k at independent shows. It's a lot of money, but it would take a while for him to make up that $500k.
Even the deal that Conrad talks about; a potential $300k a year for 30 dates, that's still $200k less than he would have gotten to be an "ambassador" for the WWE and he probably would have worked less than 30 dates a year with WWE.
I only remember The Public Enemy getting their asses kicked by the Acolytes.
Ron Simmons and Bradshaw absolutely kicked the shit out of The Public Enemy. I believe it was over them not selling or wanting to do the job if I remember correctly. It's been some years obviously.
Let’s face the facts people.
Ric flair was the man in the NWA but the wwe has overblown what he means to wrestling due to a certain someone in creative getting booking power. HHH and Stephanie were married in 03 so their like ONE and you don’t think H’s influence hasn’t rubbed off in steph? Then you got JIM Ross who called all of flakes greatest moments pretty much and it’s a perfect storm for them to sel him as the greatest ever even though it’s highly debatable. The WWE gave Ric flair the greatest send off in history and he milked it for everything it’s worth. He’ll Ric flair cried just by saying he’s friends with edge in his hall of fame ceremony. Read that again. He’s a super emotional dude, probably too emotional, I’m not a psychiatrist but he said he lost a lot of self confidence around 95-01 and you completely can see it.
HHH built it back up by giving him ten off air ceremonies (come on you really think Vince planned all of those? Vince had Ric flair for one year and both sides wanted to leave right away and while He held two wwf titles he lost and won one both on forgettable shows, he didn’t make the summerslam card in wembley and the wwf thought it best to put Sid against hogan rather then flair (probably for the best as savage would of got a better match out of flair then hogan would of)
Is it any coincidence that flairs to be the man book came out in 04, they started doing endless amount of evolution segments in 03 and 04 about how flair was the man and the only man and the only legend...it’s so heavily contrived they have flair in the opening montage and not savage or hogan. That’s ridiculous. Savage and hogan broke their backs to make the wwf while flair was chopping away in the NWA. I get it he was terrific but they made like a four day ceremony for this guy and the wwe released books DVD sets put him in the ball fame twice, 7 years before savage was ONCE. Sorry but who built the wwf? Even Heyman came out online in 08 and said “enough is enough” come mondays good he ceremony considering it was done fourth day in a row of flair crying and for what? Because he’d never wrestle in a wwe ring again?
Because he has some great wwe history? No he had great pro wrestling history and he decided to still continue being a pro wrestler so all those years and goodbye I love you was for absolutely nothing. Quit defending the defenceless.
Scott Steiner once joked that HHH would build Ric flair would get his own statue one day and low and behold it finally happened. Now they’re doing the same thing with his daughter and even during a pandemic and with health problems in his 70s Ric flair is back with a new wwe contract? Why? Jesus Christ
Ric Flair apparently owed Vince McMahon a lot of money
Yh 800,000 and paid him back after his pay off from wrestlemania 24
Screw em. They tried to force him into retirement from wrestling. Least his true final match was with who it should have been with...Sting
Dude you don’t understand wrestling is a work.
What they did as five Ric flair in his fifties the great send off ever and he was in the wwf for 14 months and he’s still praised as the greatest ever they put him in the hall of game twice and give him contract even in his 70s among dvds statues everything else
Everyone knows you can’t trust Flair, but everybody DOES know that. Plus he’s always needed $$
Tommy Rich should never be in any kind of wrestling hall of fame.
Not a flair fan, some of his matches were good, but he did stupid things, like the flair floor. I hated the Woooo, as well. I listen to some people and Flair was not a good person. He wasted all his money, exposed himself to women when he was in his 50’s, kept some other guys down and he was racist. Prefer Arn Anderson.
He retired from mainstream spotlight.... guy still likes to wrestle... none of no one’s business
FLAIR IS BROKE, WAS GREAT WRESTLER, SORRY PERSON
They did nothing to make it special. From mtv too TNN and spike TVs
Mike adamly. Was horrible
Flair has to be the most overrated wrestler. His matches are really difficult to watch after you've seen just one of them.
Ric Flair had mounted up massive debts to Vince, and other talent so couldn’t legitimately retire from Pro Wrestling.
... STUPID COMMENT JR... IF I AM PAYING YOU 1/2 MILLION A YEAR... YOU ARE NOT WORKING FOR ANYONE ELSE.... PERIOD
this podcast is just JR dumping on WWE .... i guess when your lips are attached to Tony Kahns ass, you do what you're told.
I see why road dog hates JR he just follows whoever signs his checks