Titleist T150 has created a HUGE PROBLEM!
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I think the question is answered in that you've become a much better golfer and ball striker over the past few years. Time to own it Andy, you're no longer in the game improvement section. Well done!
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I play the titlest T200 and absolutely love the profile. I’m toying with the idea of going with a combo set and hitting T150 from PW-8 and t200 for 7-4.
Yes and me I just wished they looked the same
Sorry Andy!! 3 part question. Do you think the T200 is noticeably more forgiving than the T150 in the 8 through the 48 degree wedge?Do you think the T200 48 degree wedge is more forgiving than the T150 48 degree wedge on full and say 3/4 shots?
Same question. T150 48 degree wedge vs Vokey SM9 48 degree wedge?
Thank you, Joe
I would not classify the T150 as having "bundles of forgiveness". I own a set, like them alot. They are not the best or worst feeling irons in their category. They look nice, have decent forgiveness. Not as much as say the PXGs or the Srixon ZX7, but for a slightly larger version of the T100 with a bit less loft and offer more forgiveness than say the new Callaway CB or the T100 . Comboing T150 and T200 is a really good option.
Thanks for feedback, great to have input from someone who has them 👍
Hi Andy great comparison but regarding spin wouldn’t the shaft have a bearing? If the lighter SteelFibre were in the Titleist 150s they surely would generate more spin wouldn’t they?
Cheers Michael
I tried the T150 versus the Ping I230 a couple of weeks ago. Similar senior shafts in both. T150 ball speed was 5mph higher than I230 and spin was much better for T150 too. I just loved the feel off the T150 and they look so good at address. Wish I could afford to get a set of T150 irons but a bit too expensive for an old pensioner like me!!
Why would you try them and torture yourself then lol
Which was more forgiving ? T150 vs i230?
I230 which are the ones I subsequently bought.
As a 12 hcp I know that I can hit almost any iron even blades. The problem is what suits me best over the long term. Even during one round I know that I will make quite a few mistakes.
Yes it’s what needs considering and always puts me off
Fantastic video. I have both set of irons and I think what you said hit nail on head. It’s a real pillow fight between these two irons. What I did however is combo my PXG setup now. I have 5-7 in the T, 8-PW in the 0317 CB. for me, it’s perfect. Yes, both irons are almost identical in feel. I personally found more forgiveness w PXG specifically in my shorter irons approaching the greens. I also found the ball backspin on green was off the charts w Titleist. Couldn’t understand it. Many par 3’s my ball just spinning way back sometimes off the green. Not so much w PXG. I also prefer the weight of the club head better for me w PXG. t150 felt lighter which for some might prefer but I was fit at PXG for my irons w a little more weight in club head so maybe that’s why. Overall I just found I hit PXG better than t150. I tried very hard to fall in love w t150 but just fell in love with 0317 t and cb. Everyone is different but this video is excellent and appreciate the work gone into this. Thank you
The dilemma is real 🤣🤣 thanks for feedback, very important to have golfers comment who have experience with the clubs in question, thxs for input
Great videos... you should also show the dispersion. As I think it's the most imp factor while choosing a Shaft and iron.
the most important thing id wana see in an iron personally
I am playing T200 5 and 6 and T150 7-PW with NS MODUS 120 stiff and I love them. Probably add a 4 iron in T350 soon.
The key is to get fit. If you want distance it is out there to be had. But those spin rates and decent angles are important or you won't hold greens. Shafts make a big difference. I've tried some newer clubs but most are super jacked lofts. I'll stick to my Mizuno JPX 919 HMP as they go where I want, high launch with Nippon Modus 3 shaft, and spin rates to hold greens. If I need more spin and accuracy, at times, I'll switch to my 850 forged set. Keep up the good work. 4 hcp, from Iowa in the States.
7 hdcp here. I have been amazed with the quality of my new T-150 set GW - 6-iron.
Switched from M2 irons, those of the forgiving irons from about 6 years ago (FYI).
You can really feel the difference when you miss the screw, a kind of feedback I had been missing.
For a player like me, that assists in quickly identifying the problem during the round or on the range.
Even better, I'm spinning balls back on hard greens with my 8 iron.
Never did that before even with my Ping i10 irons of yesteryear.
And these irons just hit soooo straight. Gotta be the tungsten.
Biggest difference for me was significantly better, more consistent spin from the fairway. The FAIRWAY. 😊
i did exactly the same so good
I ordered the T150’s because I got more spin with them than most any other iron. I tried most of the other brands excluding PXG. I guess it goes to show you need to test them for yourself. Also you have to use the same shafts or it’s apples and oranges.
I have had more spin in other videos and why I find it so questionable off mats, I wouldn’t be put off by that data at all
Titleist have hit the sweet spot with the T150. The right treatment of tungsten down low, combined with an active face and mid to compact head with supporting gel to tone down the sound and vibes. Everyone is doing this now including PXG (for some yrs), but the T150 has refined the hollow body design to best in class.
Think you are referring to the T200 as the T150 is not a hollow body design,
Get the T150/200 combo. Best of both worlds.
Front to back dispersion which is one of the better forgiveness stats favors the PXG by quite a margin. Titleist was about 15 yards difference compared to 6 PXG.
You want to look at the consistency of the metrics. The T150 with the lower spin, had one sail 169 yards. I'd be concerned about that.
I'm fortunate enough to play the T100S Irons.
They are incredible and I love them!!!
I personally made the switch from the original 0211s into a T150/200 combo set. Far better feel, dispersion and decent angle.
I would love to see some of these up against some of the old classic irons of a similar shape such as the Ping S55? I see so many of the S55's in play I would how they compare with other people to some of these newer offerings?
great video thank you
I was fortunate to try the PXG 0317T at Coxmoor G.C the "feel" and flight was just unbelievable. Lovely iron and well worth trying.
Nice to get some feedback from someone who has tried them 👍
2 out of 5 of the T150 were 5k spin rates. It could be that there is a difference in your swing between those 2 and the lower spin other 3.
Great video Andy. How do you rate the T150’s against the Mizuno Pro 223’s? Are they more forgiving?
No I would say a very similar iron
How does the Ping i230 compare to these Andy? Visually they (Ping) look a little larger/more forgiving but data wise? Thank you.
I would have to try side by side
@@TheAverageGolferplease do test . If you have already keen to hear feedback t150 vs i230!
I’m a high handicap decent ball striker but I hate game improvement irons to the point now I have no interest in playing. Every time I walk into a golf shop they want to hand me something that looks like a shovel.
I've hit the T100S for one season and tried this new blade one round this fall and found zero difference. Standard, same shaft, could not tell the two clubs apart staring down. Both solid irons.
Hi Andy..new sub, but have been watching your videos for years, I'm surprised that you hit stiff flex. It doesn't look like you swing that hard. I just turned 60, and am going for a PXG fitting next month, and will be surprised if I still fit for stiff. I'm thinking regular graphite, but the fitter may hand me something else that I'm not expecting....
If it comes down to spin use a higher spin ball, plenty on the market to try.
I wonder if the person was going in a way where my thought is right now. That you could get relatively similar performance out of 3-5 year old irons. If you don't see big changes, it may just not make sense to make a switch. Also, using someone else's iron that maybe isn't in your spec could make a difference as well. I for one know that I have to have +1 length because I will consistently thin shots otherwise. Overall great video as always Andy!
what is your height and floor to wrist measurements ??
Wow. I like the looks of the pxg way better but the smash factor difference is significant. Seems like the Titleist is the winner.
Yeah. There's another problem with the PXG, I just wouldn't recommend them.
What's wrong? it's a screw. a literal screw in the back. it loosens and the irons become unstable.
Bad design. I saw it and I thought... cheap design solution. They replaced a sodered full joint with two/three pieces screwed together and probably some glue....
The T-150 design is going to last longer... much longer.
Doesn't matter for pros and those replacing their irons every two years.
But we plebs can't afford to replace that often.
@@johnklaus9111Every driver now has screws and they don't fall out. Also, the PXG screws have loctite in them. I've played a few hundred rounds with my gen 3s and no problems. If you hate the aesthetic then that's fine, but they're not a problem from a functionality standpoint.
P.S. Callaway MB & Edel SMS irons also use the same type of screw-in weights.
@@canyonaro Are you confused? Do you think I don't know about loctite? please note: I'm a sailor. metal vs water is my thing.
Why is loctite used instead of another metal join? it's cheaper. It also doesn't work as well.
Loctite vs metal joins both reduces COR and breaks down faster. It's a worse solution.
So, yes, many have a screw. But only the PXG uses glue to adhere metal on metal.
Just watch your screw slowly get pushed out of the joint. so funny!
Might lose it's performance after 12 months top play maybe 20 total rounds.
@@johnklaus9111 All I can say is I've had zero problems & haven't heard of anyone else having problems. If this was an issue, we'd be hearing about it on the GolfWRX forums.
Most drivers have screws that don't even have loctite. You think they degrade after a few rounds? I sincerely don't understand why you're so worried about this.
@@canyonaro Huh? Don't think so. They just came out 2 years ago.
Nothing to do with you or your sponsorships, I’m glad you’re living your dream, and I like your content, I even bought Wilson Staff Model CB’s after your review. My gripe is the owner of PXG towing the Jay Monoghan PGA line in vilifying LIV Golf, it’s petty and totally unnecessary, this could all have been dealt with amicably without declaring war on LIV, and the PXG owner sucking up to the established tour certainly hasn’t helped.
The exact video that I have been waiting for! Thanks
I have played irons (once, TM M2s) where it was nigh on impossible to stop a 7i on the green, and that was on a parkland course. Fortunately I decided not to buy them!
IMO there is probably enough peak height and descent angle to make the low spin of the T150s controllable, but no question that 0317s have the edge in control. It would interesting to look at the 2 shots with the 0317s where spin dropped to see where on the face the strike was - maybe there is some variability there.
If control is an issue a ball change to something that spins more might help.
Both are great irons, but still think my i210s are just as good!
To be honest I question the spin data off a mat, I am pretty sure I achieved a far higher spin in previous videos with these irons (sorry on holiday don’t have time to check if fact)
Thoughts on how these irons compare to the Srixon zx5? I’m a low handicap playing a forged cavity back that is about 10 years old. I want as much forgiveness as I can get but still in a good looking, smallish package. Thanks!
These are much smaller than ZX5 & compete with ZX7. Better comps to ZX5 are 923 Forged, 0311P and T200.
@@canyonaro ya. I was just wondering if they are closer in forgiveness than their appearance would lead you to believe. I would be willing to play a zx5 but would prefer the t150 if it was close in forgiveness.
@@MG-ro7nl only way to find out is to try. Go check them out. You never know.
If this answers your question, I went in a few days ago to try the ZX4s thinking they suit my game as I’m newer. I hit those game improvements with a 7iron 190 yards, 15 yards of roll out with 3800 spin.. I thought that was good until a fitter set me up with a T100 in a project LZ stiff. World of a difference I hit the T100 consistently 175-184, 6000-6500 spin, and they felt like absolute butter. There’s no reason to hit a 7iron farther then that and to answer your question the T100s felt very forgiving ontop of it
I had the T150 1 degree weak with PX LX 5.5 shafts. Very high launch and high spin. Too much spin, actually. I swapped them for T100/T150 with PX LS 6.0 soft stepped. Should be coming any day.
How do you like them with the PX LS shafts? Been considering the same coming from PX 5.5
@@Misnjef Order got messed up so they never arrived. I'm playing Edel SMS Pro now with KBS Tour 120 S. Similar size to the T150 but I like the feel a bit better and the adjustment is noticeable. I can get a mid flight or swap the weights for a high flight. Milled soles are great too. I recommend trying the Edels.
Far be it from me to put you off, but it would certainly make me chuckle if you turned up with a bag of Titleist irons, considering the flack I've taken over the years!! Want to borrow my T200's??
It shows what I’ve always promoted, my reviews are genuine and real John, credit where credit is due the line of T series is fantastic 👏👏👏 I could be joining camp Tinkler 🤣
It is hard to see a 79mph 32 deg 7 iron carry , what was it, 169 ? Seems very unlikely. Clearly that spin is impacting the calculation. Also , spin off mat is usually a good bit lower than outside. So… data off the mat is not really that useful for hard conclusions.
My man you are missing the key number here and that is the roll out. The titleist looks like the spin would hurt but the roll out was much shorter. Don’t be concerned with spin until you try the clubs on course and you will see the stopping power.
Spin off a matt is lower, than off grass
Remember golf ball affects the spin rate
the only club that felt better than the t-150 was the mizuno 245 for me
These were my 2 final clubs in my fitting. Just ordered the t150s 1 degree weak
I got T150s a couple of months ago. They stop on a dime.
I was getting 51 degree decent angle during my fitting with a 3 and 4 iron.
I can wait to attack the pin from 180-220 yards out.
10y run out on a 7iron?🤔 i know its trackman but even so......
Titleist T200/T150 combo ALL DAY
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Black finish PXG all day!
Yep hard to beat visually
I would consider the Titleist 350s. Prefer forgiveness.
You using two very different shafts . It’s not accurate comparison. lighter graphite shaft vs heavy steel
The numbers are virtually identical 🤣🤣🤣
Big brand name golf clubs are way to expensive for us weekend hackers.
Buy used then. You can always find deals on last year’s clearance or something someone traded in.
Another silly title!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up Steve, ya sound silly, get on with a comment that adds some value to the conversation
Not really a dilemma considering you’re sponsored by PXG and their Meccano clubs.
Oh dear Stephen this reads a little bitter, keep sucking lemons sunshine 😂👍
Very,very few pros play pxg ,not popular on tournaments.
@@malcolmosborne6765 the most successful brand to win majors….Wislon, not many play them either, doesn’t mean much does it 🤷♂️
@@TheAverageGolfer sorry was referring to PXG irons no Wilson.