What Fallout's DLC Says About the Next Elder Scrolls - PS I Love You XOXO Ep. 24
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Does a focus on Fallout 4 settlements mean they're headed to the Elder Scrolls? Plus, Colin blames you (yes, you) for the failure of the Vita. (Released 02.23.16)
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Can't believe that guy at gamestop telling he is old. I am 56 years old and have a kid as old as that friend that wrote in, I have gamed my entire life. From Pong in the arcades, to the first CoCo computer and atari 2600, I still play daily even on my Dreamcast. I have no idea how some think you have to be pre-30's to enjoy games.
+Dave Mckee Sadly, a lot of the world still seems to look at gaming as time waster once you get to a certain age. I have friends who parents think playing games in their free time is a waste, yet most people just sit around watching tv in their free time. It's not much different, in my mind.
+War624 Totally agree with this, My Mrs is of the same mind set, I can play a game for 1 hour and be told I'm wasting my time, and yet she could quite easily sit down and watch her depressing soaps for endless hours and think nothing of it, whats more productive, sitting and watching a mindless never ending show or putting your brain at work and playing video games, it's funny how this way of thinking is for the majority. I mean everything and anything really is time wasting, in ways, why not use that time to do what you love doing.
Colin goes from being like "can we end this already?" to dropping some knowledge for almost twenty minutes. Good stuff.
The thing I look forward the most every tuesday. Great work, guys
+Guilherme Saba Thanks!
5:37 Ropers Report
6:00 DICE Award winners
11:10 Fallout 4 DLC
20:40 Playstation firmware beta
21:37 Bioshock Collection
23:45 Colin hates early surprises
24:31 The Division DLC and Beta numbers
25:45 Darksouls 3 season pass leak
26:15 Assassins Creed Comeback
27:40 Ubisofts new triple A game
28:12 Activision suffers a round of layoffs
29:19 Wrap-up
36:12 Topic of the show
46:38 Trophy Time
49:29 Using a guide for trophies
55:20 A viewers trophy list
59:33 Reader Mail
1:03:10 Vita Island
1:12:50 PS VR predictions
1:19:42 Disturbing moments in video games
1:21:37 Price of the new Ratchet & Clank
1:24:40 Career paths in games
1:39:27 PS I Love You Best Friend XOXO
1:40:54 This weeks forgotten PS game
1:42:17 Worst name of the week
1:43:56 Singing to Shuhei
Damn Colin...that speech on the real world was freaking beautiful...
When Colin retires he should just spend his days on a yacht with Shuhei writing on the playstation blog.
This is one of the best episodes of PS I Love You XOXO that I have ever watched. It means a lot to hear a lot of this talk from Colin and Greg. As someone struggling to make things work being part of this industry, it's good to get this discussion and knowledge give to someone like me. Thank you guys, words like this keep me motivated and in high morale, you can bet I won't be giving up. Ever... Hope to see you guys soon so I can say thank you in person. Drinks will be on me...
This is why I love these guys... The whole discussion about getting into the games industry... They're yin and yang. They balance each other and compliment each other so well.
Colin says that the Nemesis system is a weird example, but for someone who got the platinum trophy for that game, I can definitely say the Nemesis system is definitely unique and should not be overlooked. It was the first time in a game where the enemies actually had their own world, and also a game where dying actually made the game change. The Nemesis system is great.
great advice Colin! I'm a high school teacher and I have plenty of time to run a game development team on the side. Making a smart life choice really doesn't have to be a the cost of what you'd love to do.
I don't agree that the nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor could have been done on the Playstation 3. I'm a software engineer (although I don't make games) and I have a pretty good idea of what went in to making the nemesis system work the way it did and the PS3 and 360 just didn't have the computational power to make that work. When you say the games this gen could have been done on last gen just with some concessions, I think you're taking for granted the computational power that some of these games are taking advantage of, another example is The Witcher 3, the concessions that would need to be made to get that game to run on PS3 and 360 would make it a completely different game. The graphics would have to be substantially downgraded but more importantly the world would need to be incredibly cut down, the cut scenes would have to be far fewer and the story choices and branching paths would need to be cut way down. To me what defines this gen is the complexity of the worlds devs can create, that type of complexity just wasn't possible on last gen. Just throwing in my two cents, great episode as always guys. P.S. I love you characters.
For some stupid fucking reason I started crying when you guys gave us advice about our dreams, felt really personal, like you were talking directly to me, Colin being worried I might fail and wanting me being happy and Greg saying I'd rather you try and fail. I love you guys
yeah skyrim was casualized but fallout 4 was even more casualized so I'm worried for ESVI. Hopefully them seeing the success of Witcher gives them a kick up the ass and they make a great RPG game, also hope skyrim comes to ps4 while we wait (will enjoy that more than I did Fo4 even though I got the plat, still was a disappointment)
This is my first RUclips comment, I had my parents get me the vita for its first Christmas for the sole purpose that The new Sly Cooper game would have cross-play, it was the sly cooper games that brought me into gaming. I still use it all the time as my nostalgia machine that I carry in my pocket.
Colin is always a realist, telling it like it is. I really loved what Colin had to say about the Job discussion. As a freshman in college I really haven't thought about what he's said. Scares me, but its good to know
+Crutonkid DO NOT LISTEN TO COLIN ABOUT ANYTHING THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS..you will be very disappointed.
I loved this episode. The last part in which Colin talks about deegrees is awesome. Heard him talking about this before but not in such a great depth. Thank you, Kinda Funny! You are great in everything you do. My favorite garbage truck on fire
how is bloodborne not in more awards.... how did it not get best game design or in best game music it has the best ost out of any game of that year
Not main stream.
+H3roicpsycho Or art direction, the Dice Awards were completely baffling this year.
DICE awards were a joke this year
+Lord Immortallix yeah the list didnt make sense for half the awards
+louisgworld yeah i hate how bloodborne gets snubbed all the time
Great episode, the chat about the job/career path was excellent and really interesting to hear you both talk about.
The one thing I think Colin forgot when talking about school, is that as a math major myself at Purdue is that STEM fields have fucking hard ass school. The higher level math and science is not easy at all. My freshman year I was the only one out of 165 that made it to year two. There is a reason math and science based fields make so much money and thats because it takes more work than you can possibly imagine. Anyone who is debating going for a STEM field for school you need to be prepared I spend 50+ hours a week focusing on school and still hold a 2.2 gpa which is awful. Its very difficult and I feel like that was grazed over a little so I hope this can help someone cause its not a walk in the park. You will fail a lot thats why the jobs are so secure
We need fan art of Greg beating a turtle with a club and screaming, "You think you're better than me?!"
Awesome show guys, this might be my favorite episode. I liked the trophy segment and was enthralled by Colin's discourse on career outlook.
That last conversation about getting into games writing really speaks to me. I'm a journalism major and I thought of writing about politics and current world events. I read that stuff to be informed as a hobby but as I've gotten older, I've had to get away from reading the news sometimes because it's so depressing half the time. I know what it's like to be super depressed, and I don't want my life to be about things that depress me, but I still want to write and talk about the things I care about, and since I recognize the cultural value of quality entertainment in society, I want to review and do commentary on entertainment, particularly video games and movies. I'm not in it for the money. Give me something in which I find fulfillment in what I do with enough money to enjoy my life a little doing the things I enjoy doing with the people I care about, and I'll be good and I'll work hard. I want to cover entertainment and do all that stuff (specifically the creation process and quality of a product not the stupid gossip rag stuff about famous people's private lives). That is exactly what I currently think I want to do but I always wonder of I'm making the right choices and taking the right course in life.
"When you're done doing things that interest you, there's a settlement in danger. I'll mark it on your map."
where do they talk about the next elder scrolls? I dont have 2 hrs to spare...
+4Gaming They mentioned it briefly in the beginning of the show but it was more about Fallout DLC than anything relating to Elder Scrolls.... still watching though.
If that was it, however, the title is a little misleading. :(
Aime Mangone Thanks!
+4Gaming 1:45:46
+4Gaming If you want to know the times of everything you can go to the Kinda Funny Forums and they have the times for each topic. Heres the link for this episode, www.kindafunnyforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6694
+Mike Sweet lol i fell for that
how did we ever live without this channel it such a good way to pass time hope you guys never leave.
I feel like the new Ratchet & Clank is priced $40 to help appease those who still (incorrectly) think it's another HD remake. Anyone who's paid attention to the game knows it's somewhere in between a reboot and a remake. The $40 price tag is the somewhere in between price of a remake and a new title. Plus, since the franchise is hurting right now, it also helps to push the game. I pre-ordered it, and can't wait to see the movie and play the game. Ratchet was my favorite on PS2, and the Future series on PS3 was pretty badass as well.
They talk about not being up a game's ass, but yet their standard of how much they like a game is whether or not they platinum it. Strange.
Loved the bit concerning the video game industry, journalism, etc.
I won't be going back to fallout 4 I beat the game twice on xbox one and I can honestly say I didn't really like it, compared to skyrim, fallout 3 and especially the witcher 3
I don't think it's the consumers' faults that Vita failed. Vita is expensive as hell when the memory cards are added. If PlayStation just added internal memory, I would jump on buying the device.
At 46:38 --
Greg: ...what time is it?
Colin: 5:18.
Greg: No, Colin. It's Trophy Time. :D
Colin: *amused, momentarily* Ohh!... *back to regular Colin* I don't like that you did that to me.
I don't know exactly why this made me laugh so hard, but I do know that it's this kind of interaction between Colin and Greg that makes me love PS I Love You XOXO (despite being mostly a PC gamer, I'm sorryyyyyy).
Damn that section about what job you should talk was great. Straight up real talk
Hahaha when Colin mentioned using a rockband mic as a headset, I used to do that when I first got my ps3, many a days I spent with that bulky ass thing slung around my shoulder talking to my buds.
It IS my fault, Colin. But it's also that there aren't any Vita exclusives I'm particularly interested in. And the memory cards are overpriced.
i was the one that suggested that Wii U was doing something different. I didn't mention splatoon however...that was ppl in the chat.
For someone like me....who doesn't care about mobile gaming. Someone who never had a DS or 3ds. In the console space.....Wii U is offering me something this gen, that PS4/XB1 isn't offering.
A game like Mario Maker is giving me an accessible and fun to use level editor. Do games on playstation and xbox have creation modes, yes. But i've tried to create things in LittleBigPlanet....and its a nightmare.
One of my favorite gaming experiences last year was playing thru and beating Affordable Space Adventures w/ a friend. Thats just not something that ur going to get on PS4 or XB1.
Wolf Among Us did that a bit with trophies, Greg. It had he normal beat the chapter thing but you also had to complete the book journal thing you had for each chapter too. To get certain ones you had to make different choices.
1:02:23
"I would have punched that guy in the face for saying that!"
I've been laughing about this for a couple days. So damn funny that is why I love you guys.
I didn't get into Fallout my first round as much I played maybe 8 hours or so and then just quit playing... but I came back a few weeks ago and I'm definitely hooked now. Now I just hope I can beat it before The Division gets here.
The biggest thing was that in my first round with Fallout, I didn't mess with weapon crafting. I like playing as a stealthy character, and since I hadn't messed with crafting, this was basically impossible. Once I put a couple points into gun nut, made myself some silencers, and started realizing how crafting works (grabbing better parts of similar guns, to combine them all into the same gun) etc made it much more enjoyable.
For the record, when I ran a GameStop, I would sell the shit out of the Vita. I didn't even make commission there. You walk over to the DS games, I was the guy that would be like, "Have you seen a Vita yet?" Got one on launch day and now I've upgraded to a slim. Love you guys and all you do
The Wolf Among Us was another of the more recent Telltale games that had trophies where you had to do something specific and not just finish a chapter
Personally loved Skyrim the best. Not too dense, not too little. Always kept me occupied and never overwhelmed.
I have two uncles who became nuclear phycisists in the 1980s. They spent a great deal of the 2000s unemployed and now are stock brokers. LEARN TO LEARN
Hey Colin, Greg, and chat! I would like to comment on Colin's point in choosing a career. What you have to understand is gaming is the new thing, all past careers are meant for people who grew up with it. Gaming have been around for ever, but A.I.'s & the internet are things we have grown with. We are now charged with the task of living life with the technology of our time until we discover all there is to find. Love the podcast, keep up the good work!
This episode is so good you guys have no idea. I love kinda funny games, been a fan of Greg since the IGN days and it's just awesome to see they are doing such great content with their own team. This is the place to be as a gamer, they are so down to earth and real. Love it!
This is by far my favorite podcast I listen to at work and has now become one of my favorite youtube channels . The pride of Long Island !!! I'm from Jersey so I can relate
Wonderful ending, lots of insight.
Colin Moriarty, you sir are the shit! Keep up the good work brother
I like that you went through people's trophies list you bring up games that you normally don't have a space to talk about.
As someone who also got a history degree and graduated into a very poor job market, I have to agree with Colin. You won't find many jobs out there in your field which pay a lot of money, and some them, like higher education, require a lot of work for little pay. I loved my course of study while I was in college, but ever since graduation have wished that I got a degree in Computer Science or Engineering.
Im glad to see Ori get nominated and win so many awards this year. such a great game
Oh and also best Vita moment for me was that moment in a lbp Vita edt level where you scratch the record...... that was awesome and I got a trophy for it to boot!!
Live well PlayStation Vita.
Now I can drive to work! Listening to this on the drive in on Tuesday mornings has become a nice ritual. Have a good one everyone!
+Steven James Oslund You, too, Steven!
PS I Love You XOXO is the best part of my Tuesday! @GameOverGreggy, please tell me the “Best Friends” are working on making the “Life of Greggy” documentary in the Chicago burbs . If so, I would love to get @NoTaxation behind the trigger of some fun firearms at my uncles’ private range.
+Kyle S Nick's always talking about it...
I've put 200 hours into Fallout 4 with probably 100 of those hours spent building settlements.
The settlement building is the best element of the game. The highly popular settlement mods seem to show that people are loving too.
The theme song will give me chills forever. It's perfect. Thanks for the show, guys.
all respect lost when i saw that Romney Ryan shirt
This show always comes online right when I get home from work - just perfect! Greetings from Austria!
keep it up guys, I really like you a lot
man I'm 7 years late. Great show guys! Still on Vita Island!
Colin is like that one friend who grows out of video games but still tries to join in to conversations about video games.
All the new games are shit and he always turns the convo back to old games he used to play.
I'm with you on the trophy thing Greg. If they were supposed to be achievements why are they called trophies? if trophies are designed well then they aren't so tedious and obscure that you need a guide. Colin's right that as long as you enjoy trophy hunting your time is well-spent and your experience is valid. Some people could regard looking at the trophy list looking at a guide so it can get really hard to be a pure trophy hunter
Great advice Colin, I graduated with two humanities degrees and started an IT business instead of grad/law school. Great for bettering yourself as an individual but after undergrad you can do a lot more than just focus on your emphasis in college.
For me, Gone Home was small enough that I thought it was fun to look for the directors commentary stuff aroudn the house. I used a guide for the last one, but I had fun looking for them and I was really interested in hearing how they made certain parts of the game.
Actually really appreciated Colin's sentiments today around 18:00, it makes a whole lotta sense. Especially since I ended up being disappointed by Fallout 4 too- so riffing onto there from Fallout makes me feel happier 🌚.
So glad you guys are doing this show! i'm also a jonny come lately to the VITA party. Glad i did
I don't own a PlayStation product, but this podcast is still one of my favorites. I just enjoy the insight and random tangents.
Colin just sounds like he's done with games. Every episode he talks about not wanting to play them.
U obviously don't listen to every episode in its entirety.
Nah, he says he loves and plays games. He just doesn't play them every waking moment of the day because he has other things he's interested in as well and because he sometimes needs a break. Nothing wrong with that. They say distance makes the heart grow fonder and that applies to everything you love. So
I love games a lot but there are other things I want to do and I don't always want to play games, so I take a break and when I return I have a revitalized interest and desire to play. Playing games because you love games is one thing, feeling like you have to always play all games all the time because you love games is not good, or as Colin puts it, "don't very up a game's ass".
There's a reason everyone isn't an engineer or a mathematician.. I hear it's quite difficult, lol. But i get what you guys were saying.
With what Greg is saying about the Hitman: Go trophies ... he might as well just hack the game and pop all the trophies if he is just going to follow a guide move for move.
Kinda Funny makes life worth living! especially tuesdays!! because of you guys i hate the weekends lol great job on everything you do. i love the community you continue to build and you're the cooler big brothers i never had :P take care and keep doing you best friends :)
got my wife into Tokyo Jungle. She realllly freaking loves it. It halts all productivity in the household. Highly recommend it.
Great advice Colin. I start college this fall and I am very passionate in becoming a game designer. However, I don't want to be tied to something so specific so I'm dual majoring in game design and computer science, even though that's going to be a hell of a lot of work.
Wait a fucking minute. 9:09
Fallout 4 won best RPG? Is that a joke? It's barely even an RPG and has been critcized as such.
They stripped down the majority of RPG aspects from any Fallout game ever made (even tactics). It is the least RPG-esque Fallout game ever made. I wouldn't even call it an RPG. How about a Open-world shooter, that makes more sense.
Great show as usual. Just want to say that I got my Vita while I was living in Japan several months before the western release so I was chilling on Vita Island with you all telling people how cool it was!!
After thinking it over, Bethesda should've made it so you can customize Sanctuary and maybe a few other faction specific settlements (such as The Castle) instead of the obscene amount of locations. And I'm finding it harder to start my second playthrough because of the settlements.
I totally agree with Colin. I'm a freelancer. Unless you're really driven and love doing something so much, don't even try. Imagine that thing you wanna do as a business - would u still love doing it even if doesn't pay well? Or not at all in the beginning? It's tough and for some it takes years to live comfortably.
Always love watching the podcast, makes my Tuesdays awesome!
First time I watched the video and not listened to the mp3... the intro video is really awesome. Good job on that
(also, the rest of the content is pretty great too)
look forward to this podcast every single tuesday. thanks best friends.
edit: that gif of colin laughing is hysterical.
The best thing about this is the photo of Shuhei in the backgroud.
Not sure why I'm watching this two years later, but I miss Colin lol.
Sony is to blame for the Vita being a failure,not gamers.
Who would have thought Tuesday would be the official best day of the week. Keep up the good work!
I'm always so fascinated to hear your stories about the Vita. I love mine so much and have for years.
I want to become an animator for a gaming company but thanks to this podcast this is making me question my resolve... Thank Colin... lol
Romney got destroyed lol. Lose that corny shirt Collin!
I've been stranded out here on Vita Island with you guys for a few years now. Tearaway is still one of my favorite Vita games, even if you two weren't big fans :p
P.S. @Kinda Funny, I'm willing to bet that I have played my Vita in the most interesting/unusual place out of the best friends.
On the main topic, I mentioned it during the Twitch stream, but I really don't mind how games aren't that innovative anymore, and what we play on PS4 can be played on PS3, etc. I don't need something "new." What I do need is a better story/narrative. I've played games my entire life, but when I first played The Last of Us, it changed my life completely. The writing, voice acting, etc, etc, was so damn good that it made me realize that "this is what I want" in gaming. I played that game on day 1, and it's still a game I think about probably once or twice a week. I don't need something new, like VR, just give me a better story, characters, writing, etc. That's all I need, to be honest.
Maybe some early PS3 games could have been created for the PS2, but I highly doubt something as technically impressive as Uncharted 3's cruise ship sequence or Uncharted 2's train sequence could have been remotely possible on the PS2.
I think the same hold true for the PS4 today. We're still in the early stages of PS4 development cycle, so yes a lot of these games probably could have been made on previous hardware with certain compromises. However, pretty soon we're going to reach a point where these games could never have been possible on previous hardware and that's when we'll start seeing some truly incredible content.
To Greg's point about VR getting the high price, low adoption rate, then devs seeing the small install base and not touching it... I can see that, the difference between VR and the Move though, is that they likely won't be looking at only the PSVR Install base. They'll be looking at the Occulus+PSVR+Vive install base.
I assume/hope that porting between Occulus and VR will be a similar process as porting from PC to PS4... so even if it's not exclusive, the total install base between the different variations of VR MAY be worth the investment.
The emergence of the walking simulators is kind of a change in the status quo of gaming. There's no way that games like gone home, life is strange, etc which focus on 99% story telling and 1% gameplay would have come out 10-15 years ago.
You could lop those games into their own "walking simulator" genre for sure
I don't think what Warren Spector is talking about has to do with hardware at all. What he's saying is that we're consistently just getting the same *types* of games out of AAA, while in the indies we're getting genuinely fresh gameplay experiences.
The novelty of many indie *good* indie games isn't primarily driven by simply new stories, vibrant art styles, or different settings- which is all we're really getting from AAA releases. Indie games are actually making new systems (still abstractions of current AAA game genres, though).
FTL, The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons, Kingdom, Sunless Sea, and many more indie games, are all fresh, expertly executed games that offer much more varied gameplay experiences.
Um...Colin was speaking on Super Time Force like it's new and innovative, but that's only because there simply aren't that many pixel art 2D platformers being made today, in the 90's there were probably 100's. Probably Telltale/Quantic Dreams games represent something "new." Exploration games like Adr1ft that eliminate violence in games altogether also represent something "new." The Swapper/Sackboy represent something "new."
With the Fallout 4 DLC soon upon us and now the hype for Elder Scrolls 6, including Doom, Dishonored and the unknown games. I have alot to look forward to from this company.
Great episode! Hey Greg, what's with the late cut at the end?
I wish Colin would play Ori and the Blind Forest all the way through. That game is so good and it's right up his alley.
Yaboi Colin M said some real opening shit at the end.
i think maybe the cover system from gears really added something new to games, and has since been adopted into numerous games.
i would love to have a new genre or a new revolutionary idea implemented throughout games
So Colin, I am a freshman in college and am currently under the track for a History degree. My problem is I have no idea really of what I want to do with the degree, I just like history and am passionate about it. What would your advice be? Change to a more applicable degree like business or something? To be honest you're starting to scare me here, because what you're saying seems so accurate. And I'm only going for the basic BA degree.
Thanks in advance. #PSILoveYouXOXO
I bought my Vita on launch day, I'll have you know, Colin.
But tbh I've only ever purchased like 6 games in the 4 years since. The system has just been living on PS+ games since then for me.
+samuskiller19 Why didn't you buy two at launch? I still think you're to blame.
I just stoke my launch vita last month. my wife has hers collecting dust.
I love the settlement stuff, but I hope future games make it possible to avoid it by not forcing you to join a faction that uses settlements.