I barely even play necromancer anymore, but I still make a point to watch your content because it provides some insight into how the game works that I just can't get anywhere else. Thanks for the good work; it really is appreciated.
Hi all in case people missed the livestream. 1) Raise Skeleton Priest does NOT reset counter. Mendeln counter only resets if minion is summoned. 2) Bone Prison Interrupts it too 3) Army of the Dead Volatile skeletons does NOT reset it; only resets if minions are resurrected. 4) Golem activation does NOT reset counter. [Fel Gluttony shouldnt as well since it is immediately proc after golem's animation]
Great content. Great explanations. I’ve been a minion/pet fan since EverQuest and it always seems devs struggle with figuring out the balance. Hopefully this helps make minions more viable.
I'm so glad I decided to check youtube, I was using the runeword that was summoning wolves as I moved, I thought something was going on! Thank you Macro!
This is crazy. RUclips gods sent you my way and the amount of info and time spent building and testing this must've been insane. You definitely gained a like and follow sir. Well done.
The god gamer back in action - thanks mac! Very helpful and informative as always =) I noticed the wolves not giving mendeln procs too on dummies - and I got rid of them. But I didnt make the leap to ALL "minions".
IDK if you have already tested or if someone mentioned it but shademist is causing minions to explode each 8 seconds doing mendeln's damage, don't know if it's usable or not but its definitely interesting
Attack speed will be the stat to go for with minions mendeln build. The faster they hit, the more often mendeln procs. If running fist of fate, higher frequency of hits, increases the chances of landing a hard hit in a given amount of time. Do you want 5 lotto tickets, or 10?
Hmm this kinda makes me want to make my first necro. For reference, I’ve probably made a total of 20 level 100 characters, but never a necro. Their balance never had me excited at any point in D4 till now
Is Mendeln still a drop from Beast in Ice? Because I ran it once and got the Ring of Sacrilegious Soul on the first kill....and that's not in his drop table according to maxroll. So, I was wondering that was just added to him and he still drops Mendeln or did Mendeln move to another boss?
I suspect a whole lot of patching fixing and whatnot from blizzard to the minions - just because they can't stand to see them be any good as we saw in the past. :D
Please, PLEASE bring round two of the bloodsurge minions this season! They were so incredibly fun last season, they became my highest developed build in my d4 history 🙏
Ngl i think this is good enough for mendeln its a unique and it does unique stuff and ngl i think they should just add a tag where the players stats would be added and its like 50 throug 100% making it so they dont gotta gut it since now it has another downside attached since cant have it to low
I was afraid you'd be all over only the spiritborn with the new season, I'm so happy seeing the good necromancer content still being pumped! You're a gift to this community, my friend. This is what I hoped a minion build would look like ever since Beta, I'm so glad it's finally here! Only question I have is how the math looks when comparing AoD with Unyielding Commander versus Soulrift.
I feel like by the time they rounded out D3, we didn’t have these bizarre hidden equations obfuscated by misleading tool tips requiring streamers to theorize about how exactly these things worked. I kind of wish this game didn’t need a dedicated research team to decipher.
What counts as "summoning minions" for reseting the ring of mendeln proc counter? My main concerns are: Boneprison? The volatile explosive dead from army of the dead?
My biggest question that I really want an answer to is: does summoning skill dmg apply to minions in a way that double dips something else like the multipliers do or naw? Feel like summing skill dmg might still be poo :(
looks like some programmer messed up and when creating (summoning) new object (minion) and assigning it with base values like Ring of Mendeln's charges (0) instead of assigning it to this new minion only it assigns 0 to the whole array of your summons
"I'm not a developer, I don't know how the coding logic works". -Sadly, I can only draw the conclusion that the devs do not have a full grasp on this either and I really wish I was just joking. I'm not saying the game is bad or it's unplayable but man I've seen plates of spaghetti that had better syntax. Okay, that last bit was a joke to try and make light of something that's been really tempering my enjoyment of the game. Despite having fun with it, I can't think of a game with more unrealized potential
Womp womp, anyway i'd absolutely love a mortacrux breakdown from you. I just can't seem to find a good place to fit it due to the interactions. Either way keep up the great work! Loving the channel!
There is no point in playing diablo 4...i have over 1000 hours in this game...and you know what i got in the end for All my time and that i managed to create so many broken build and all ubers ? Nothing...nothing stays in this game...what you see all here and what you get is completely meaningless..
Mac is the GOAT for doing all this testing. Thanks for putting in the effort to reverse engineer problems and find the best options.
I barely even play necromancer anymore, but I still make a point to watch your content because it provides some insight into how the game works that I just can't get anywhere else.
Thanks for the good work; it really is appreciated.
i love how when you say "it scales off THE NECROMANCER" you point to yourself
Absolutely unintentional but I'll take it!
Hi all in case people missed the livestream.
1) Raise Skeleton Priest does NOT reset counter. Mendeln counter only resets if minion is summoned.
2) Bone Prison Interrupts it too
3) Army of the Dead Volatile skeletons does NOT reset it; only resets if minions are resurrected.
4) Golem activation does NOT reset counter. [Fel Gluttony shouldnt as well since it is immediately proc after golem's animation]
So it's not so bad :) thank you for the notes.
thx this was very nice to know. u safed my life hehe
Thank you. I was asking this question to myself the whole time
Great content. Great explanations. I’ve been a minion/pet fan since EverQuest and it always seems devs struggle with figuring out the balance. Hopefully this helps make minions more viable.
I'm so glad I decided to check youtube, I was using the runeword that was summoning wolves as I moved, I thought something was going on! Thank you Macro!
Thanks for the clear, no bs explanation! It helped me out a lot improving my build.
This is crazy. RUclips gods sent you my way and the amount of info and time spent building and testing this must've been insane. You definitely gained a like and follow sir. Well done.
great video, as a dad i can only specialize in one character so i only play necro since year 1, and your videos always help me a lot
The god gamer back in action - thanks mac! Very helpful and informative as always =)
I noticed the wolves not giving mendeln procs too on dummies - and I got rid of them. But I didnt make the leap to ALL "minions".
love it, keep going! Mabye grandfather will be a thing now, looking forward to it!
I am continually being impressed by your research methodology
Great overview, much appreciated! Looking forward to the MR guide updates.
Great video! Thanks for investing your time to figure all this stuff out. I keep the golem because I like him sending him in ahead.
Cheers mate.
Any chance of a thorns video?
Watched this live while experiencing this myself, awesome video! Keep it up!
And this is how the good and valuable and interesting video looks like:) Well done Macro! Can't wait for more:)
That’s good news for my season 6 starter build 😂 hope it stays like this for the whole season ans it does not get the nerf hammer !!
ive been using the shadow damage aura aspect with fortify on minion hit and for some reason it keeps me at full fortify even out of combat... insane
Feel gluttony is pretty good, especially if you have reapers to reset cooldown. Great for burst damage
Still wonders why my mages get killed by the test dummy.
thanks for testing all of this! for the algorithm!
The amount of work you put in is astounding
Thankyou. Ur testing work is appreciated..
Excelent job, this is a masterpiece
Great breakdown man.
Thanks for all work ! 🤜🤛
IDK if you have already tested or if someone mentioned it but shademist is causing minions to explode each 8 seconds doing mendeln's damage, don't know if it's usable or not but its definitely interesting
Awesome video, thank you very much!
Damn that is wild, great video. Thank you.
Attack speed will be the stat to go for with minions mendeln build. The faster they hit, the more often mendeln procs. If running fist of fate, higher frequency of hits, increases the chances of landing a hard hit in a given amount of time. Do you want 5 lotto tickets, or 10?
Can’t wait for the build updates.
Thanks so much again mac!
The only Necromancer guru I trust!
Hmm this kinda makes me want to make my first necro. For reference, I’ve probably made a total of 20 level 100 characters, but never a necro. Their balance never had me excited at any point in D4 till now
thoughts on running cold mages now with coldbringers if it is scaling?
WOW, learn so much in a single video
mendeln was the first unique that dropped for me this season at lvl 23. kinda feels bad because I dont need it for leveling
Maybe the mendeln counter resetting is a sign that all of the minions damage bonuses/procs are resetting aka messing with snap shotting.
Does the skeleton priests also reset mendeln count ?
Only if ur not at max minions... Basically if u spawn a new minion it will reset... Same if u use bone prison.
Is Mendeln still a drop from Beast in Ice? Because I ran it once and got the Ring of Sacrilegious Soul on the first kill....and that's not in his drop table according to maxroll. So, I was wondering that was just added to him and he still drops Mendeln or did Mendeln move to another boss?
I got Mendeln from Beast in the Ice
yes just low drop rate
Ruse Cruize (Goblin Inc channel) said you can gamble Mendeln with obals, this might be the easiest way to get it
I Wonder if X'Fal's works good with Shademist effect multiplied by number of minions? Could that scale off minions multipliers?
Brother where is this build on MaxRoll? I can’t find it for the life of me 😱 Very addictive seeing your breakdowns. Amazing work
I don't write the minion build on Maxroll. I'll have an updated build guide video and planner later todat
@@MacroBioBoi you did it!! Is excellent!!! 🌟
Nice, im looking for some end-game activities with this, pit 40 doesn't show anything
I’m curious to see if Temerity will work with season 6 minions
I suspect a whole lot of patching fixing and whatnot from blizzard to the minions - just because they can't stand to see them be any good as we saw in the past. :D
As the brother of Uldyssian and bro of Trag'Oul and Rathma he has to be mighty. My man was the beat Necro 😎
Please, PLEASE bring round two of the bloodsurge minions this season! They were so incredibly fun last season, they became my highest developed build in my d4 history 🙏
Its an exciting season for minion bois
fists of fate works on Minions? whoa. okay that's pretty cool!
I hate how distilled fear is so much harder to get than other materials
Not sure if this was asked on livestream but would occult work on the amulet? Does it still give extra minions?
Yes it does
The Maxroll guide im following doesnt use Golem it sacs it, am i missing something?
I don't write the Maxroll guide, Chronikz does, he is updating it with our findings.
Ngl i think this is good enough for mendeln its a unique and it does unique stuff and ngl i think they should just add a tag where the players stats would be added and its like 50 throug 100% making it so they dont gotta gut it since now it has another downside attached since cant have it to low
Dumb question. But if it just checks the minion multis. Do you use golum multis even though you sacrifice him?
No, because the golem wouldn't be producing mendeln.
Cheers! Like it.
I was afraid you'd be all over only the spiritborn with the new season, I'm so happy seeing the good necromancer content still being pumped! You're a gift to this community, my friend.
This is what I hoped a minion build would look like ever since Beta, I'm so glad it's finally here! Only question I have is how the math looks when comparing AoD with Unyielding Commander versus Soulrift.
Got baee Mendeln, went from t1 to t3. I stuggle in t3 but I'm here
Making me glad I started with a minion necro so I can enjoy this before you get it "Fixed" lol.
I feel like by the time they rounded out D3, we didn’t have these bizarre hidden equations obfuscated by misleading tool tips requiring streamers to theorize about how exactly these things worked. I kind of wish this game didn’t need a dedicated research team to decipher.
Bugcro is back
What counts as "summoning minions" for reseting the ring of mendeln proc counter?
My main concerns are:
Boneprison?
The volatile explosive dead from army of the dead?
Hi in the livestream he tested it. Bone prison does interrupt the counter too. Since it counts as 'summoning minion'
thanks
My question does healing the minions with the priest reset the ring?
guess those wolves will be disappearing from that theory craft 😆
Yup!
Love to see it! 😂
My biggest question that I really want an answer to is: does summoning skill dmg apply to minions in a way that double dips something else like the multipliers do or naw? Feel like summing skill dmg might still be poo :(
It does not
looks like some programmer messed up and when creating (summoning) new object (minion) and assigning it with base values like Ring of Mendeln's charges (0) instead of assigning it to this new minion only it assigns 0 to the whole array of your summons
Minion necro 4Lyfe... I just need the ring now smh
JONAH HILL SHOUT OUT TO THE GOAT GIF
does that mean if you want to run mendeln then you cant be spamming skeleton priest?
Skeleton priest is not a minion, just a buff, so should not interfere with the count.
U can't spawn as long as none of ur minions died.. Anytime u respawn a new minion it resets.
So shademist will not proc mendeln because it isnt a physical strike from minions
What about Skeletal Priest ? I hope he doesn't count as a new minion (it shouldn't, but you'll never know).
As long as u don't spawn a new minion from skeletal priest ur good. Just gotta be at max minions.
"I'm not a developer, I don't know how the coding logic works". -Sadly, I can only draw the conclusion that the devs do not have a full grasp on this either and I really wish I was just joking. I'm not saying the game is bad or it's unplayable but man I've seen plates of spaghetti that had better syntax. Okay, that last bit was a joke to try and make light of something that's been really tempering my enjoyment of the game.
Despite having fun with it, I can't think of a game with more unrealized potential
I feel summoning minion reset clock is under samw coding logic of swapping minion type sacrifices all current minions and have to resummon
Does Skeletal Priest also reset Mendeln?
Someone please answer...these will break it...
It does not
Not if ur at max minions... Pretty much anything that spawns a new minion will reset it.
@@subzero308 its compalsory to use mercenary? Or if i dont use it mobs will have less hp?
Man ur legit underrated thanks for the vid .. fucking blizz and minions
Thank you, I love my cold dead army (not blizzard mages, just dead). I appreciate all your work on the subject.
Is this ring still busted or did it receive a hotfix since this video?
It has been fixed
hallelujah!
Thank Jesus. Love this ring
The build hits a brick wall in torment 3.
I'm speed farming tier 80's. Check the updated planner.
you are amaaaaaazing, post the build please
Soon!
my skel and mages making 3m dmg because of that ring.
What about ring of the sacrilegious soul? You have full minions and it cats ever 2 seconds. So you’re saying Mendeln never procs?
No, because it needs to summon a new minion. If you're full, it does the priest heal instead
Does Mendeln reset with summons from the Mortacrux?
Yep
Womp womp, anyway i'd absolutely love a mortacrux breakdown from you. I just can't seem to find a good place to fit it due to the interactions. Either way keep up the great work! Loving the channel!
@@jonny__hotfix I have not found a place to put that item. It's just kind of poorly implemented
Too complicated for my smooth brain, lol. Imma stick with my 1 button blood surge build.
No bug only features 😂
Blizzard programmer works consistency, as it always was :p
Where my minion mains at? 😂🔥
Here. Doing the blood surge leveling right now
Those bugs and no extra attqck counter killing my necro hype..
im in
Still being the ultimate hipster and playing necro every season with no minions...
Still doesn't hold a candle to spiritborn. Need more buffs. I had to be carried to get lvl 100 glyphs, usually by other 3 spiritborns in high pit.
Geez, the spaghetti code -_-. They probably need a much smaller team with better people :-| or at least way better automatic testing
Blizzard 🍝 code.
And even with this it cant push
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There is no point in playing diablo 4...i have over 1000 hours in this game...and you know what i got in the end for All my time and that i managed to create so many broken build and all ubers ? Nothing...nothing stays in this game...what you see all here and what you get is completely meaningless..
Woo 666th like on the video.