When Pop Singer Confronted Roberto Duran
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Welcome back to Boxing After Dark! In today's video, we go back to 1988. Roberto Duran coming to the latter stage of his career, After some recent losses to the great Thomas Hearns and Marvelous Marvin Hagler. People felt it may be the right time for Duran to hang the gloves up. Duran felt he had one more world title in him, with Barkley being the guy with the WBC, but first, he had to get through the 6"1 Future Pop singer Paul Thorn
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Don't forget Duran's W over Barkley. He was small, old and used every trick he had in the bag to pull that one off
Barkley beat Hearns twice ! Styles make fights .
The best trick duran had is that he was mean as hell in the ring.
Duran went 15rds with Hagler.
He had great Boxing brain.
Used it well against Barkley
Not true- Duran wasn’t a small middleweight and Barkley knew it was time to go up. Ironically he seemingly had Hearns’ number but in reality Tommy also needed to go up and nearly skipped super entirely then controversially (IMO) lost the split to Barkley at LHW. Iran never won another fight again at middleweight losing those 3 straight shots at a strap concluding with Benn devastating him in the opening round in 1990.
Fact is Durant retired at 12 stones. Meanwhile Iran desperately needed to go up at this exact time. Just bad timing and a great game plan by Roberto. Only timing worse than Iran’s was Tommy’s lol
@@CYMotorsport Duran was a small Middleweight he started @ Lightweight FFS.
Stayed there for a decade.
The young man was very tuff. He took a beating and still put some good shots on a legend.
Very Lion-hearted indeed. Paul can Always hold his head high for the Valiant effort , tremendous drive, and Courage he displayed against Roberto Duran.
I never knew of this fight until now in 2023. A world of respect to Thorn for stepping in there and then staying as he did.
Same here and I thought I'd watched all of Duran's fights but never heard of this one and the kid is from the same town Elvis Presley was from.
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👍👍
Likewise.
Very proud of Thorn, very brave. He has a lot to talk about, fighting the legendary Roberto Duran ..
"Your biggest rival is yourself" Robert Duran, I never forgot the first fight I saw of him, inspiring, tenacious will to win, to overcome challenges while never losing his zest for life. Him and I turn 73 this year.
Paul Thorn showed he had a warriors heart that night against Duran.
Roberto Duran was So Great,
Roberto Duran 🙏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻👍🏻🤜🏻🥊🏆🏆🥊
Roberto Duran, a Mexican~Panamanian legend
Duran never lost his knockout punch, but as he moved up in weight, he did lose the ability to land his best shot. But when he did.....Watch Barkley. He didn't know where his corner was after that right by Duran. He looked at 3 different corners before finding it because there are only 4 corners in a square!! It is scary to wonder what Duran wouldve been like at a natural 160lbs. Hes still the greatest lightweight champion in my lifetime, by far.....
The entired 80'S to mid 90'S were the Golden age of boxing.
70s
50s, Ray Robinson etc..
No one moved in there like he did. Total natural 👍
Ray Arcel legendary Trainer said to Freddie Brown don't teach him, just get him fit. He knows how to fight.
Yes Duran was a master, his skipping rope routines were magic.
He would've destroyed Mayweather
@@dan32113Absolutely agree!!! Even Mayweather's father said when asked how Floyd would have done against Duran ,said, " Duran ? Duran? Are you fu@#%^& crazy? You ever see Duran fight,what he did to fighters ? " That's all that needed to be said ,LMFAO!!! Even Leonard and Benitez would have smoked Mayweather.
I’m a big fan of Paul Thorn the Musician. He has numerous albums and still tours with The Paul Thorn Band. We see his concerts about twice a year in the Philadelphia area and surrounding suburbs. He is a well known name and attraction on the live music and Americana Music scene.
Duran, one of the best fighters to ever lace on a pair of gloves. He essentially ended Barkley's boxing career. Barkley was about as disfigured as you can get in a fight and Duran didn't have a mark on him. One tough dude. They don't build fighters like Duran anymore. Today's fighters in his weight class would have danced and dodged all over the place to avoid fighting Duran in his prime. They avoid each other now even though none of them are that good.
Mayweather anyone??? Lol.
Duran would have made Mayrunner jump out of the ring and run out of the whole area.@@eac1235
Roberto Duran is from Panama but his fighting fierceness comes from his Mexican-American father who was a sailor in the U.S. Navy.
Who out there knows Paul Thorn as an AMAZING singer/ songwriter before they knew he went to hellfire against Duran?
Hands of steel.was already old but still packed a punch..what a legend
Stone*
Steel 😂😂😂
Let’s not forget 🇬🇧 Dave radford who also fought duran. Great guy Dave a proper gentleman. He never gets mentioned 😢shame ❤❤❤
Yes, & that fight is on RUclips.
I've seen a few of Daves bare knuckle fights.
A very hard man.
The body work early set the tone for this fight. He was game but totally out classed could you imagine if this wasn't the end of Durans career.
Duran great pound for pound. He stands with and only slightly behind Robinson, Armstrong, Mickey Walker and Ezzard Charles as pound for pound.
I love Roberto Duran - the greatest prize fighter in the history of boxing !!!
Plot twist.he renamed the title to the song,""IT'S A GOOD DAY GET MY ASS KICKED"😅😂WAS HUMBLED BY OLD HANDS OF STEEL😊
Settle down Princess! Have U ever fought?
@@markmcallan973Ever heard “It’s a Great Day To Whup Somebody’s Asss”by Paul Thorn?
Hands of Stone, Roberto Duran.. one of my all-time favorites and one of the all-time greatest. 🪨🪨🥊🥊
If you're Duran he must have been thinking 'I've been in with de jesus, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, had 82 fights, so why am I in with this guy?' it must have been tough for Duran to be excited and 'up' for this bout. Credit to the other fella he took some bombs and lost some blood, he wasn't phased or scared in there. Duran wasn't motivated for the Kirkland Laing bout in 82 either and he lost on points to the awkward Laing. 👍
@@bull419 yes, plus Benitez who imo should be recognised alongside the 'fabulous four' making it the fabulous five👍
he kinda is El Radar was one hell of a boxer@@martindunstan8043
Adding The Mandalorian music made me love this channel even more than I already did lol 👊🏾
Duran was a master of the #9 punch also known as a head butt
Let me put it like this Paul may have been an underdog but he was a live dog go Paul go👍
Paul Thorn also has a song called Mexican Dog , Pretty funny song. Just sayin
@@geraldfriend256 that's hilarious he's full of surprises👊
My personal GOAT 💙
I saw Paul Thorne several times in concert in Santa Cruz and he has a great sense of humor. He talked about his fight with Roberto Duran and of course wrote a song about it, "I Rather be a Hammer than a Nail".
I climbed in the ring
With Roberto Duran
And the punches began
To rain down
He hit me with a dozen
Hard upper cuts
And my corner
Threw in the towel
I asked him why
He had to knock me out
And he summed it up real well
He said, "I'd rather be a hammer
Than a nail"
If you've ever been
On the receiving end
Then you know
What it's like
A losing situation
Has been the story of my life
But I ain't gonna' let it
Beat me down
And someday I'll prevail
Yes I will
I'd rather be a hammer
Than a nail
I'd rather be a hammer
Than a nail
Stronger than his smooth muscled look would suggest with quick hands and decent form. Credit to him for trying. But not near even a past his prime Duran's level.
Last 15 seconds of the video -- "...and if his resume doesn't show it..." HUH?? On what possible planet would Duran's resume NOT show his ridiculous greatness??
Humble, realistic & Tough!!
So much respect to you, facing a tiger like Duran and only being stopped because of a cut , who knows maybe you could have even beaten him
Thorne was pretty inexperienced but gave a good account of himself against an all time great..
I remember when Duran gave Erie, Pa. light weight home town hero Lou Bizzarro a title shot in Erie. Yikes..
Very well done. Great clips, well written and nicely narrated. Make more!
*I sparred some 20-30 rounds with Roberto Duran in Gardnerville Nevada. Right before the Barclay fight. Duran had a mastery of inside defensive fighting tactics. Which made me constantly pivot, and use the angles for openings. So I could stay on the offensive. Since I knew offense would be my asset. As, I outweighed Duran. I was fighting at 178 lbs. The gym was right down the street from my Grandmother's house. I would go and spar this legend in her tiny town. Back in 1989, I was an amateur. I ended with 42-4 amateur record. Roberto was actually a pretty nice man outside the ring but once you saw his sneer. You knew his "nice" persona switch had been turned off and his "killer" persona switch turned on. The man hit very hard but I kept right on coming and using the angles. I earned his respect for that. Its all a memory now. Roberto will go down as one of the greatest Middleweights in history. Personally..I give Marvin Hagler the GOAT pound for pound status by a slight edge*
Did you know a fighter Nicky Walker from Carson City, NV by any chance? Interesting story you shared.
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*No. I don't recall the name. I didn't grow up in Nevada. I grew up in Oakland and LA.. My sister knew an Amateur contender from Gardnerville she met visiting my Grandmother in 1989. I believe his name was Jared. Who was a Lightweight. My sister told me about the gym. As, I prepared to leave Oakland and visit my Grandmother. While I visiting her, I ventured down to gym with my equipment to seek gym access. The man managing gym let me in. Low and behold, Roberto walked in with his entourage the next day. Needless to say, I stayed in town and became one of the sparring partners. The gym recognized my skill and experience quickly. While Roberto picked out fighters to spar. He would often pick to pair 3-4 fighters. He would spar 15 rounds collectively with all of us. Which was 3-4 rounds with each of us, at a time. After, a month and a half. I returned back to California. Later fought in the Golden Gloves, Nationals, and World Amateur Chapionships in Australia. I fought out of Garden City gym San Jose, and Kings Gym in Oakland*
Great vid thank you !
He's not a Pop singer.he's mostly a country singer.he has never had e a pop hit but he is a very good singer songwriter.I saw him live once he looked like he could still fight.
He's not a pop singer. Folk music friend. Paul wrote "I'd Rather Be A Hammer Than A Nail" about this fight.
Paul had fast hands. Damn fine effort.
Thorn put on a great fight.
Paul Thorn has a great Texas rock band. Excellent stuff. Kinda roadhouse rock music. Think Debert McClinton.
The 🐐
You can throw 13 of those losses out the window, like all great champions the need to fight will always linger.
A cane would not be permitted in the ring.
So it is. There is always a time, where you have bad conditions. But when he had a challenge, no one could beat him. Just the haters see his losses 😂
I bet if you set up a third fight with Leonard he’d take it tomorrow
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Paul did good against Duran. He showed no fear and has decent skills. Maybe with a better camp he would've done it better.
Duran was all timing, it's unbelievable how he generates power in the short distance just by turning the hips. He had so much talent that it made him think he doesn't need to train properly and control his weight between fights.
Last night (Nov 16 - 2023) we got two awful boxing fights where we watched boxing decadency at his finest, Shakur winning a belt without even trying to win and De Los Santos completely scared of walking him down... Plus Navarrete who has horrible footwork and balance, it makes me sad thinking we will never see another era with such talented fighters like Duran.
Absolutely Correct Comment
Roberto Duran, Salvador Sanchez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar Delahoya, Canelo Alvarez. The Big 5.
@@robertdecker146 You missed one Alexis Argulleo
Canelo???? Chavez??? Come on.@@robertdecker146
Paul Thorn is a tremendous musician. He is a modest and very cool dude from Mississippi. He is in no way a pop singer, he is truly soulful and writes intelligent songs.
paul thorn is far from a pop star, he's one of americas finest songwriters. t. snider
How is 13-2 an awful record?
I think he meant the people he'd fought and got beaten by made his record awful rather than just the numbers themselves, could be wrong tho
Ali lost the heavyweight title against Leon Spinks with seven professional fights
Welcome to boxing lol, that’s really not horrible but in a modern world where every elite boxer is undefeated any losses look bad even if that’s not how it should be
That's how I interpret it. Regardless, if you can last five rounds with Duran, you're pretty tough and your record is inconsequential.@@aidenbrooks7529
True, but among those seven Spinks had wins over a few name opponents in Pedro Agosto, Alfio Righetti and tough as nails Scott LeDoux.@@charlesrazo7246
Good work
Duran never cherry picked 🥊
over 70-wins before 1st loss
He got Popped alright.
And was singing the blues afterward.
Us Mississippi guys don’t play. That’s all I have to say.
It’s easy to look good against an expert if that’s all you are trying to do.
This reminds me of that episode when Beevis & Butthead are flown to the White House to meet the President of the United States.
They rode to the hospital in the same ambulance.
Something to show the grandkids
I don't wanna be no pop singer
Then sounds like Deputy Dog. 😂
Thorn boxing better than Logan
Tommy Hearn was in is prime..Robert was an old fighter by then..So those kinda fights are not even real fights
Paul Thorn was a long way from Tupelo 😉
"This man (Thorn) at the time had an underwhelmingly (sic) record of 13-2"? 13-2 is "underwhelming"?
great with the sound off as the commentary is absurd.
Didnt know 13 wins 2 loss was a bad record 😕
I'd say he did very well, much better than anyone expected. Duran decided to play stupid instead of appreciating the opponent he actually struggled against. Maybe he was afraid he won't get a title shot after such crap performance
That white dude did pretty good.
Thom not the best fighter but all heart. In durans prime it would have been one sided but my hat is off to both of these men.
How about england's kirkland laing?
Too much talk... His fight with Iran Barkley negates all of this silly emotional babble.
Duran was solid, too much hype both negative and positive spoiled his legacy.
Too much talk, and you yet you contribute...
He Punched Buchanan low everyone seen it. Buchanan had him beat until then.
Buen video
I give more credit to Thorn, here.
Panamanian fans are the worst what Duran did for Panama they turned their back on him when he fought Leonard the second time then Mas fight the no Mas fight he was treated like garbage built hospital's schools for nothing
That,s not Simon Lebon !!!!!
JFC, robo announcer is bad enough, but the fight was in Atlantic City, New Jersey, wtf does Atlanta have to do with shit.
Paul who?
Never heard of this white boy
In his very next fight, Roberto would take on Jeff Lana's, who resembled Thorn a bit, but unlike Paul, Lanas would handily outbox the Old Legend. Only to be robbed on the scorecards so that Duran vs Barkley could be made.
Would Jeff be able to beat Barkley. No. That’s why Duran got the win.
5 rounds each with Duran landing the harder blows. Lanas dominated 6 through 8, but the final 2 rounds belonged to Duran. 1 through 5 were very close but let's not forget body shots count. Not a robbery - a draw would have been a fair result.
Stick to tennis son because you don't know boxing
@@Bruins-vq5eyI bet you didn't even know the Lanas fight took place
@@cobravision8837 as a boxing historian I've seen em all... especially Duran who wobbled and hurt lanas multiple times with left hooks and body shots... Lanas was game but he did not handily outbox Duran..that's hilarious as is your post
Thefuck does Atlanta have to do with Atlantic City?
Did they not call this fight off too soon?
NO MAS. 'NUFF SAID.
The equivalent of Marvis Frazier vs. Tyson or Holmes/ a shameful match-up !!!###
He's athorn onhis side
He was unknown & beat duran.
He was unknown & beat duran.
He talks like arapper
Roberto Duran was at one time one of the most feared men in boxing, with great reason. He was phenomenal. But his career became very sad when he stayed fighting long after his skills diminished. He almost became a joke.
Duran was overhyped.