Dutchware Pup Tent Sneak Peek (Prototype)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- A solution to Hammock Camping with your Dog?
In this backpacking gear video, I’ll be tinkering with a new prototype piece of hammock camping gear, the Dutchware Pup Tent. Please keep in mind that this is a prototype that is still in development. I’ll be checking out it’s features, setup options, and usage with my dog Denali.
I’m looking forward to keeping an eye on DutchwareGear.com from future developments.
Weight: 275 grams (9.7 oz) with the stuff sack.
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How about a double layer floor so you can slide a pad in.
I could see my dog tearing right through the fabric at the first sight of a wild animal.
I agree. This looks like a bad idea
Yes, that would be cool one for dog and one for people a set easy to set up, great ideal.
Shawn, thanks for everything that you and your family do. We always look forward to watching your videos. Extremely informative and always very intuitive. you probably don't realize how much money you save the people that watch your videos, let alone all of the problems that gets solved ahead of time before heading out on a trek. Great stuff love the pup tent,we will have no problem letting everyone else know that they would more and likely use this just like we would. Take care, you guys are great. Love the Ledbetters.
Thanks Dutch for thinking about our friends! I've looked for awhile for just this kind of set up to no avail. Once your dog gets used to it they will love having their own "Pup" tent to crawl into. The split magnetic door that some have suggested sounds worth checking into so they can come and go at will!
Wow that thing is awesome! Might need to get this for my beagle .Hmm I do worry about the bugnet ripping with one swipe though. Maybe no zipper at the bottom. Leave it loose? Kinda like a dog door. that way the lead can stay on the dog.
Ha! I was just thinking "Why doesn't he just attached that to a tarp CRL?" LOL. Actually, since my dogs carry all their own gear, carrying a separate RL would not be an issue. Funny thing is I was thinking about this set-up last week while out for a couple nights with my dogs. I had remembered when one of the guys from Dutch was sharing this in a MYOG group I'm in. Glad to see they are considering putting this into production. Love Dutch & Co.!!!
A single pole on the front (doesn’t have to be large at all) tucked into 2 small pockets or 2 or so pull outs on the sides and back may create a little more room and reduce flapping in windy conditions and reduce anxiety/stress on your dog. A place in the bottom to slide in a piece of blue or similar foam pad (protected from dog and ground) would make it easier in the colder months for your dog to regulate his body temps as well while sleeping.
Looks like a great start. I have been just getting into hammock camping this past year and am thinking of attempting to take one of my dogs with me and eventually would like this to be an option for him if he wouldn’t try and tear the door apart. I like the idea of magnetic closure so the dog doesn’t feel restricted and can come and go as he pleases.
Wouldn't mind a leash attachment point on the inside. Maybe extend the line coming down from the hammock through the top enough to make a loop to attach the leash to. Then you could leave the door open while you're messing around at camp but close them up at night and never have to mess with the leash
@Between2Trees It's ridiculous how hostile you're acting over something so petty. Juvenile.
@Between2Trees You're an idiot.
That's pretty awesome. I have been using the grand trunk mozzy 360 for whenever my pup comes backpacking with me. It does the job but it's heavy as a rock. Kinda like the puppy palace. I like that style because the dog is in there with me and I can clip her leash to the hammock so she doesn't bust through the net and take off after an animal in the middle of the night. Just wish it was lighter. If Dutch can make a net similar to the bird's nest but for one hammock and designed to go to the ground, I'd be a happy guy.
This would as you mentioned, be an interesting idea for a human tent as well. here's my question, is it big enough for say a ULA Catalyst to fit in it? I don't have a dog, but it would be cool to keep gear in.
Cool product, I will be buying it! Thanks for the video.
This is a great idea. My dog has very short hair and gets cold super easy so I usually have to sleep with him in my hammock and an 80lb Doberman pinscher on your chest all night isn’t the most comfortable thing ever. I will be buying one once it’s for sale. Thank you for making something like this Dutch!!!
How about turning it towards your hammock then he gets full coverage from wind and rain
Good point. That would probably be a good move for "real life" non-filming applications. I didn't even think of that because I was more concerned with framing the shot, haha.
Ditto I have been toying with a similar set up using a small tarp. I had the entrance pointed at the hammock. Unfortunately my dog is to old for long trips.
I was going to say the same thing. Plus it would feel to him like he's under your hammock like usual.
I love this idea for dogs that are trained to stay put when told and are accustomed to different environments like this.
I love that I could stow gear in there as well as my dogs to keep my gear off of wet ground. It sorta makes this multi-purpose in a sense.
Getting ready for a trip to Rock Island, WI this summer and while it's not a true backpacking trip this time around, my pups are new to camping. The other dog "tents" on the market are quite heavy and built more for the agility and sport dog crowd that need a shaded spot for their dogs at events. I am super happy to see this come about. I had been hemming and hawing about a safe place for the pups at night that isn't bulky or super heavy. There are lightweight popup "kennels" that you can purchase for about $20 at walmart and I have used those before, but I am excited to compare the Dutchware pup tent to my experience with the pop up kennels. The kennels in question are quite cheap materials, but have rigid wire in them to give them shape without a tieout - with that, they are bulky.
Thank you for the video on this product!
Good morning Shawn 👍🏻👍🏻 Nice review !!! I think the ridge line idea under the tarp is a great idea with the tent opening facing the same as your hammocks to the side view not the front view, but you would differently have to get your pet used to the tent. Thanks for sharing, enjoy and have a Great week !!! Danny
if it was water proof on 3 sides, it could almost act as a pseudo door for 1 side of your hammock. perhaps shockcord to help eliminate the sag when you climb in the hammock.
Can't wait to get one for my puppy he goes with me on every trip
I know I'm late to this party, but I have been thinking hard on better ways to integrate my dog into my transition to hammock camping. He's a smaller 25 lb guy, so it's not out of the question for he and I to learn to share a hammock, but not everyone has a small dog, and even for me, he won't be my last dog--odds are good my next dog will be bigger. What I want is a solution that is durable (can withstand a little canine abuse that even well-behaved dogs will sometimes provide), safe (protects my dogs from the elements: wind, water, bugs), and is secure (has some manner of ensuring that, if nothing else, my dog cannot wander off while I sleep).
Personally I'd prefer a heavier, stronger material than seems to be used in this prototype. For how small a pup tent is, using heavier, more durable materials wouldn't amount to a whole lot more weight, and I'd be happy to carry a few more ounces or more if it meant a more durable product for my dog.
We currently strap a Noz2noz Sof-Krate to our pack when canoe camping with our dog. It's acceptably durable even in its mesh, and while it's not as light as I'd like its weight doesn't bother me too much; however, it doesn't pack down as well as I'd like, and has no means of actually being a stand-alone shelter from the elements--we use it as a heat/bug retreat for him during the day in camp and take it into our tent with us at night. If we were to transition to hammocking, we might set it up under our hammock, but in that situation I'd be less than satisfied with its weatherproofness and security.
Tying it to the tarp with a shock cord great idea would probably alleviate a lot of that Slack since it would be static and not moving also have you ever seen those back door Nets with the magnets on them that you can just walk through if you put those on one side of that tent the dog could come and go as he pleased without ripping the mosquito net to pieces an internal leash attachment point would be great too or at least a hole to put my leash through Just a thought great video as always love your content keep up the good work
Do you think rotating it 90 degrees so Denali can see you better might settle him more?
May have had it turned this way just for better viewing for those watching the video. I agree that having the screen pointed towards the hammock may be better for the dog ^_^
Cool, thank you for the review
Love your vids Sintax! Looking forward to the 2018 deer camp also :D
It's actually good for one side to be a bit lower than the other, you put your shoulders into the low side and it kinda pushes you back a little into the corner. It helps prevent sliding down to the middle
Shock cord might fix the sagging problem.
I LIKE IT & I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE SHOCK CORD THE FIRST TIME YOU SAT / LAID IN THE HAMMOCK! AS LONG AS IT'S WATERPROOF LIKE OUR TENTS ,ETC .
Thanks for sharing this. I’m so looking into it. Unfortunately, I made a novice mistake and caused my do to get bit my a copperhead. I will definitely look into this. Btw, it apparently was a dry bite and the dog survived thanks to me having Benadryl and a few others first aide skills. I felt horrible.
You could possibly attach it to the quilt hooks on some gathered end hammocks (i.e. chameleon, Dream Hammock). That would allow the pup tent to be closer to your hammock and make sure the tarp was covering it. You might still have to use that shock cord mod you thought of but at least the tent wouldn’t get wet.
Good stuff. Definitely a great idea! 👍
Interesting, I'll have to check that out - thanks!
Love the doggie den
Looks cool
I also hammock camp with my pit bull, he weighs about 50 lbs. I really like to sleep with him IN the hammock. I have to put boots on him to keep his nails from tearing the fabric, but I think it would be interesting if there was a hammock design that would make it more comfortable to have a dog in the hammock or maybe suspended directly below your own hammock but still incorporate the same underquilt.
I have a few suggestions, as an engineer, on how they could improve their dog tent...... Lol. Particularly in terms of the base. But I doubt they care. It looks awesome. I wish my dogs were cool enough to go out with me.... Lol
Would it be better to turn the front opening of the tent 1/4 turn towards you so the dog has you in his/her sight? Might calm the dog a little more. And you would have access to the zipper to open the door of the tent.
I'd get it for my backpack and such.
looks like the perfect size for Denali
something I need for my dog when blackflys are bad
The human tent done in that teepee style and very light was made years ago. It could be used with a single pole or as you stated, a single ridge line. I like the idea of the dog shelter, however the zippers and no see um wouldnt last long with a large breed. Maybe an elastic entry where the tether could go in and out as the dog pleases?
I'm thinking to make one of these ad my first DIY project.... if I could buy it definitely would
Nice video, can't wait until you use it a few trips and get back with another video. Alex just sent me the triangle version to try it out. I'll let ya know how it does once I use it. Tks
Awesome, I'm looking forward to giving it a go on an overnighter. Triangle version sound cool. Looking forward to seeing how it works.
I thought about that tent some more. In real use I think you will find it better if the door faces your hammock so the front is really under the tarp. Denali will be happier worshiping you that way and any rain will be less likely to blow in his front door. I'm not joking as my pups have all been happier when they knew where I was. It's part of their pack mentality.
Very cool "Pup" tent. A human sized one could be ultralight with the right ridgeline and tarp setup. For someone like me, I'd like to have one since I don't get comfortable enough in hammocks but prefer the ground.
Nice!
Thanks for the preview! Do you think the tent foot print is small enough to fit under a tarp with doors (closed) such as a 12 ft HG palace?
Shock cord would probably be a better option to attach the tent to your suspension without the pup tent sagging so bad when you get into your hammock.
Love this idea! Also, maybe some kind of bug net opening that pup can open like a doggie door that will self seal behind him _like magnets or Velcro?
Ahh, interesting. Kind of like those magnetic bug net curtains that you can put on your patio door in the summer.
sintax77 Exactly-as long as there isn’t any patent. The folks at Dutch are creative enough to make something cool of their own.
Maybe having the option of velcro on the door instead of a zipper for those of us who can have our dogs loose, that way they can come and go without fear of destroying the zipper
Would work awesome with my doggy sleeping bag :)
I Love this idea of a pup tent! And yea if they would develop a human version that would be really lightweight for summer.
If not, this idea could be something I could make my self
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Hey there, wonder how much you've used this since this review. Thanks!
I do this same setup with the alcott pup tent with the poles chopped down and a line up to my tarp ridgeline. That being said, I would buy dutch’s version in a heartbeat. Looks far lighter and I assume the fabric would match with my hammock.
Definitely not enough UL dog gear out on the market
Think if you had a ridge line under you tarp, that would be a constant height to connect the tent top to.
Thought of this before you came back from the future. Honest! Love the video effect BTW.
If you use a ridge line, you can place the tent closer to your hammock, giving more weather coverage.
Great minds think alike, Dave ;)
Was thinking a tetrahedron shape might save weight but kind of liking the idea of a slightly larger footprint of the pyramid shape to keep the bag and boots in with the dog too. Plus the pyramid provides slightly more coverage in case of blowing rain. Any more info on doggie mats and sleeping bag? That would really complete the setup
I think they would do well to add the shock cord as part of the attachment system, seems to work well, even if you went to a ridgeline.
What will he think of next? Dutch is a genius.with this stuff. I'd never be able to use it with my brain dead pup but it's still a great idea..He would whine like a baby all night if he were zipped in.....all 100 + lbs. of him lol.
I like your idea of a human version of this for tarp campers. Occasionally, if tarp camping, you get wind and rain, including runoff that can make things a bit rough. A human version would allow a lot of protection and options.
Magnets instead of zippers so the dog can go in or out when they want
Great idea
Hey man I’m trying to decide on if I want to order the chameleon in the double or single and I’ve already watched you video. Also could you describe the purpose of over fill. Their not a whole lot of good videos out there describing it. Keep up the great videos dude!
What about a guyline point in the center of the back panel to attach laterally to the tree, so at least one panel is in a fairly stable position? Or guyline points on the sides for trekking poles or large sticks? If you can't have a interior center pole like pyramid tents for humans, you'll need to create structure from the outside.
Nice idea! Can't wait until the fleas.... I mean bugs are worked out. Lol My puppy is 5 months old and still chewing everything so I'll have to hold off a while anyway before trying anything. I am searching a few different dog with hammock camping ideas. Tell Thomas if he wants me to test a Kevlar version or material made by Kong I've got the right puppy for the job Lol. Thanks for sharing and nice video buddy.
Now you will have to plan a trip soon with Denali to give the pup tent a good test. 👍
So many trips to plan, haha.
I'd love to see you do the knife edge to katahdin
Hi! Are you still using the pup tent? I'm about to place a order with Dutch and thinking about getting my dog this tent, any thoughts two years out?
BUT LIKE YOU SAID IF YOU HOOK IT TO THE TARP RIDGE LINE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM I WOULD THINK ?
What kind of dog is Denali? Maybe if you put the opening where he can see you, he’d settle down more? Just a thought.
Pit bull
I would totally buy the human sized version.
How about a slit type doggy door?
Switch the mesh for fabric and you could use it to store gear, backpack etc.
I think you and Denali would be happier with a separate line to connect the tent top. Could also use a basic tripod from scrounged wood. Denali probably would have been happier with his bed in the tent.
I am thinking instead of fully zipped door that the bottom be weighted so the dog can go in and out on his own and could still be tied out if need be.
Golite made a tent like the one you were talking about. I have one but hang now. They also unfortunately went out of business. They can back as My Trail. But don't make that particular tent however.
Human sized ones are made. Notably trekking pole tents/tarp tents. Some, but not all give you a tie point you can use in conjunction with cord/rope and a tree limb/ridge line.
Well, there ya go. Maybe I _am_ jaded from all this hammock camping, lol. I've seen plenty of the trekking pole tarp tent options, but never noticed or thought of a fully enclosed ridgeline system with bugnet, etc. Thank for sharing, Jim!
@@sintax77 if you have a tarp with "doors" for winter/inclement weather hammock camping, you can set it low. Many manufacturers make "mesh" A frame tents, even pyramid/teepee mesh tents.
I would turn the up-tent 90 degrees so your dog can see you in the hammock. He probably will get used to it but he was a little nervous. I know my dog would prefer to be able to see me.
Good point. It worked for the video, but he'd probably like your method better :)
That pup tent would fit my dog's left butt cheek. Will wait for super XXXXL pup tent review.
Can we make it little wider and longer make a great two man tent with no poles guideline, backpacking
New thru hiking ultralight tent so what if you have to sleep in the fetal position.
Yeah, maybe connect the tent to the tarp ridgeline so the tension is mitigated.
Haha, that's definitely some hardcore ultralight mentality there. I like it 😂
@builderbob26 ahh, the "I had to call my wife to come get me" position
I like it and would love to try it but I think it is to small for my Doberman.
Maybe move his tent closer to the tree so it won't sag as much. Or even use a branch from another tree.
I'm all in for a human sized one.
I had Dutch make me a birds nest single for my chameleon and discovered that on uneven/hill hang your dog slides on the argon. So only works on level ground. Hoping he comes up with a solution to sliding. I almost killed myself slipping in my socks on the argon bottom
Hmmmm, maybe some sort of very thin, but grippy mat cut down to size? Like a yoga mat, etc? That would be a DIY mod, of course. On the production side, maybe a double layer of his non DWR Argon fabric on the interior. It would ad weight, but the regular Argon is much less "slippy" and feels more like cotton.
I was also thinking some silicone caulking if u put some around the inside it would stop sliding. Saw that hack for people that didn’t want their sleeping pads sliding. Though I hate to do that to my gear 😬
I agree with the human version as I do not hammock but my boyfriend does. We could be closer. It would be nicer then cowboy camping under him. Lol
How about some magnetic strips in the center of the fly screen so the dog could come & go & the doors would stay closed afterwards.
For smaller dogs or ones the curl up in a ball when they sleep perhaps making it 3 sided (instead of 4)? It would certainly cut down on my weight/cost.
Wish my dogs were as chill as Denali but alas, hounds chase everything and make more noise than anyone in the woods wants to hear.
It might need a heavier bottom. I could see dogs' claws ripping it, especially on a rocky surface.
Looks cool but I'm scared my dog would claw through the material. This would be ok for very calm dogs that take everything in stride.
How small does it pack down?
I should have showed that. It pretty much fits in your hand. About the diameter of a Nalgene bottle, but shorter.
where are you camping ?
Make it full size so you both fit in an im sold an make the bathtub side's halfway up the mesh
He wants out
My dog would definitely freak out & shred the mesh to get out. I expect one could slowly train the dog to be okay with a put tent
If it makes you feel any better, I put Sara in there and she did the same thing.
KuntryRD It might help by changing the orientation so that the dog can see you at all times.
4:30 lol, people in the background
Would be cool if it was a puppy hammock
I've used the 2T's Hammock Chair from Dutchware to do just that actually. It's in this video - ruclips.net/video/9lljSHN0dHM/видео.html
sintax77 A gear sling might work as a doggie hammock.
Donde compraste la tienda para el perro ??
Your brainstorm is called a miners or pyramid tent. Been around for as long as they have had cloth. ;-)
portable gear garage no more stuffing it under u
Where are you @sintax77
He doesn’t like it
No need to reinvent the wheel
There are a lot of issues with this. You have to have a very well behaved dog to not have this shredded. With it connected to the suspension you run the risk of the dog jerking the whole thing while you sleep if it’s spooked or otherwise decides to it has to get out.
I don’t like the idea of the dog being separated from the owner. Something like the Cave Creek Pet Palace is more my style.