The secret Ferrari that nearly blocked one of F1's greatest innovations
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2022
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The semi automatic gearbox - or paddle shift as it is also known - is one of the most significant technological developments in F1 history.
In just a handful of years after Ferrari introduced the concept in 1989, every car on the grid had copied it. It’s a system we all take for granted today, and it’s even made its way into the road car industry.
But the pioneering car that first carried this revolution almost got derailed by spectacular internal politics at Ferrari.
As we get into this story we hope you like the footage we’ve included, and we’d like to give a huge thank you before we get going to 19Bozzy92 and Italiansupercarvideo for allowing us to use some of the incredible stuff they have shot. Please check out their channels to marvel at their incredible raw footage in full.
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Ferrari has always been its own worst enemy
Exactly. I have been thinking this specially past years with the lack of results. Ferrari won't change its ways no matter results and it's never the problem. Although it seems they have loosen up a little bit lately.
And still is.
could not have said it better! 👍🏻
It always is. Recently when they had the illegal engine, then suddenly were at the back of the grid. And even Monaco this year, when the car didn't break down. Strategy did
@@dahorn100011 they were at back of the grid cause of pandemic tho, in 2019 they were still good even when they had to change the engine
What a lovely and healthy workspace Ferrari had/has: Everybody harmoniously working together towards a end goal: Backstabbing
Yeah, that sickening
Interesting to imagine what would have happened had the two projects worked together and merged their ideas
If that had happened they wouldn't have been Ferrari.
@@ssmith7074 more like Awful Ferrari.
Internal politics has always been Ferrari's greatest weakness from being the best motorsport team
Suddenly, the *fiasco* at the last *Monaco GP* and the *jumbled strategy* doesn't seem that bad anymore!
@@ssmith7074 I just
Ferrari’s greatest strength is it’s passion. Ferrari’s greatest weakness is it’s passion.
Yep. The biggest enemy is themselves.
They're competing against every team on the grid, including Ferrari. Been a fan for decades, but this is getting tiring
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Spectacular internal politics at Ferrari? I find that hard to believe
The more stories you hear about Ferrari, the less sympathy is left for them.
They almost always treated drivers and engineers in a very bad way.
Like what's a good reason to work for Ferrari? - Reputation only?
@@lukasschmitz7231 Yes, because there has never been major internal politics at Mclaren, Benetton, Renault, Williams or any other major F1.
It's only Ferrari that has had this problem.
Italian politics at it's finest. Not just in F1 but also in government. How many elections have they had in the last decade?
@@neilwilliams2883 Of course it's not only Ferrari. There's secrets and 'dirty games' among all teams.
But the overall amount seems to be way bigger than in any other F1 team.
All these comments make me chuckle. The main reason why such things happen at Ferrari is because no team is even far remotely as HUGE as Ferrari. Ferrari is literally one of the most known and powerful brands in the world (only things like Apple, Microsoft are bigger), it's by far the most loved and successful brand in F1. When you are this big, obviously you are going to attract a lot more attention. So please just STOP to pretend that other F1 teams are made of just awesome and lovely people. F1 is a TOUGH reality. There is no time or space to treat engineer drivers etc "nicely". And if you can do that, it's just because you are a small, irrelevant team. Plus, just quit it with this racism towards Italians. The most successful team in F1 history? Ferrari (Italian). The most successful brand in rally history? Lancia (Italian). The first brand to win an F1 race and championship? Alfa Romeo (Italian). The first driver to win an F1 championship and race? Farina (Italian). The 2 best riders in moto gp history? Rossi and Agostini (Italians). The 2 best bikes in Moto GP today? Aprilia and Ducati (Italian). Say whatever you want about our philosophy and approach, but you can't deny the efficiency.
19Bozzy92 and Italiansupercarvideo getting a nod is the best thing I've seen this week. Those fellas are legit audio wizards.
19Bozzy92 is expert on uploading well known race showcase videos.
they're motorsport legends in their own ways
I know it's a lot of work but I'd like more videos like this. Knowing F1's technical past is fascinating by itself but also helps understand its future.
THis was very interesting and a welcome departure from the tabloid news style stories you normally get from this channel.
more of this kind of content please!
Hi DAGATHire. 🙏
If you like this kind of story, give their podcast 'Bring Back V10s' a go. Lots of interesting stories from F1 during the '89-'05 period.
After the test by Gilles Villeneuve a paddle for the actuation had already been developed at Ferrari too.
Phillip, Ferrari fortunes somehow cant get worse.
The 639 was raced for the first 3 races of the 1989 season. Many people forget this and it was the 639 which took victory in Brazil in 1989 and not the 640. The 640 was introduced in the fourth race and with it the airbox which the 639 lacked. Berger's accident at Imola was in the 639.
639 still faster than SF1000.
AHHH, you've opened up a mystery....all the info I could find matched the video saying the 639 was never raced and only one exists, even explaining that the airbox was added to the 640 for the fouth race, not that they used a completely different car. Is Ferrari just playing around with numbers? Did they actually use two different cars in '89 and call them both 640 or did they just change the name when they added the airbox? Did they use two different cars with two different names and just re wrote history later? Nothing would surprise me with Ferrari.
Not correct. The 639 was used during winter testing and it had the two-sides air intake but also crucially narrower sidepod intakes. Due to cooling issues even in December at Jerez, it evolved into the 640 which was used since race 1 of 1989 in Brazil. It kept the original top air intake of the 639 but the sidepod intakes were visibly wider. This configuration was used up until Monaco, so Berger crashed in a 640 at Imola. Once they got to the North American races, the 640 introduced a classic snorkel-type air intake which was used for the rest of the season, but it was still called 640.
@@crusherbmx They were labelled as 639 and 640 but both with the F1 89 moniker.
The confusion arises from the fact 639, 640, etc. were, strictly speaking, the engine names and not the car names and the two became conflated. Officially the Ferrari chassis were F1 88, F1 89, etc. although Ferrari were and still are hugely inconsistent about the whole chassis naming process. This was because Enzo had always been belligerent about the engine being more important than the chassis ever since the 'Garagistas' started to prove that notion antiquated and would put the engine name ahead of the chassis name most of the time. See names like the 312T (3 litre flat 12 Transverse). The chassis attached to the 312T6 had as much relation to the original 312's attached chassis as the Mclaren MP4-6 did to the Mclaren MP4-18 but because Enzo was in charge and nursing a 20 year grudge against the underpowered customer engined cars with more nimble handling that had run rings around his expensive, powerful, chunky red machines the engine name came first.
the sad thing is that ferrari never got a proper credits due to their reputation
FIA banned Williams FW15C fully automatic gearbox.They practically banned the entire car. Ferrari get plenty of credit lmao
I rlly wanna like this comment but the likes are at 69 for me and I cannot change that
@@TaraGrace56 someone already did it damn😔
@@maxluthor6800 not really, williams simply too advanced in the 90s is the thing will brought up when everyone talking about williams, ferrari testing semi auto gearbox in the 80s will always be in the shadow of the enormous ferrari history
@@kirisaki.777 nooooooo it could not be saved, I should have a screenshotted it 😭anyway now it's not there anymore, I shall like the comment lmao
Back then it is pretty clear how much a difference good infrastructure made to car design.
The high nose tyrrell was the best car they had since the early 70s, and it was conceived in Maranello. the team didn’t have the capacity to develop a new design until 1993.
Imagine what Tyrrell could have achieved if it had the investment in top quality facilities and big Harve at the helm.
Ferrari- "why make one working car when we can make two not working cars".
Can you imagine what would happen if in today's F1 one team would finish with 8 times out of a possible 30, even if all of those finishes would be podiums? How times have changed. The mentality in F1 is "better finish on low points than build a super-fast car but which is unreliable". There have been talks about changing the point system to make wins more desirable, but the way things are going will that never happen. When looking back at past championships there are plenty of winners with many DNF-s.
Yeah because back then they only had to count some if their finishes so they counted their successes and didn't count the failures.
I believe this is because points back then only extended to 6th - and it was only 10 points for a win. Better go all or nothing in this points system than to try and be reliable but slower.
@@nandix5933 that was my point. F1 has gone from "all or noting" to "1 point is better than no points"
@@nandix5933 The points scoring system for 1989 was 9-6-4-3-2-1, and only the best 11 out of 16 results counted.
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Imagine those development politics transfer over to the strategy department, "my strat 1 is better" " no mine" "in in in in" "stay out stay out"
Hahahahahahaha. 😂😂😂
As much as I enjoy the current F1 coverage, I love these types of videos The-Race does. Good stuff. Oh and Bozzy is the man.
These Ferrari stories are legendary. Not much changes at Maranello it seems
Senna driving stick shift was poetry in motion.
The graphics in this video are superb! Great improvement for the channel.
It's really interesting how this worked out, because basically this typical Ferrari scheme of a secret car and the unwillingness of John Barnard to work in Italy turned out to be responsible for Michael Schumacher's career. The evolution of the car he developed at Benetton gave him his first two WDCs and his continued disapproval of working in Italy in his second stint at Ferrari paved the way for Rory Byrne and Ross Brawn. And the rest, as they say, is history.
I still think the Tyrrell front wing looked better than the Benetton one.
1989. Holy. I knew the unreliability was bad but didn't knw it was THAT bad.
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@footballcoreano 😂 Ferrari hasn't won overall at Le Mans since the mid-60's and hasn't won nearly as many class victories as Porsche.
Amazing really the system has made it so much easier for those with health, cordination problems like myself drive a car. And more cars in future I have no doubt will use it
Maybe you shouldn't drive if you have coordination problems.
Btw what you get in road cars is just an automatic transmission, they have been around since the 1930s.
The future is gearless and electric brother as far as personal transport is concerned
@RoboClips If you have coordination problems to the point that you can't use a H pattern and a clutch, you shouldn't drive.
@@blackshadow7192 just admit it, that you are a bigott and have no clue. so what do you do when you are one armed? or when you have major issues with on of your hands? Just ban all of them from driving?
@@TheUntaintedTreble I would argue, that the future is simply not personal individual transport. Trains for example are much more efficient than any electric car could ever be and they are for decades now
i remember there was a time they used to call it the schumacher gearbox iconic
Yep. MSC 1994 flashback intensify.
Bozzy does some of the best videography and sounds are amazing.
Even myself, a self proclaimed Ferrari critic, never thought this level of machiavellianism could exist in Ferrari is really saying something. Ferraris biggest enemy is themselves.
And Machiavelli was Italian too
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Great video! Would love to see more throw back videos please.
These videos are on par with the quality of official F1 videos in terms of production and information provided. Excellent insights and technical info that any F1 fan can understand. Thanks for all you do!
Seriously good footage here!
Excellent video. Informative, interesting, and chock a block full of surprises.
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Despite everything, Ferrari has still been fighting for championships and race wins. They have never completely collapsed for long periods like some other formerly competitive teams, at worst still able to get podiums. Ferrari is still one of the leaders in design and innovation.
And italian laziness and incompetence
Yes, that's what a lot of money gets you
@@jaremakarwowski1574 same incompetence that saw ferrari fighitng for the title in 2 of the most recent seasons while some other teams cant win shit since the 90s
@@sickopaul3610 The team you’re talking about also won jackshit from 1984-1999…15 years without a championship for F1’s most historic and ‘successful’ team. Without the Schumacher, Todt, Brawn super squad, you have the 312T and a couple titles with Ascari when F1 was running F2 machinery. There’s the odd other moment of triumph but otherwise Ferrari can best be summed up with the classic quote: “You look at Ferrari from the outside and wonder how they don’t win everything, you look at them from the inside and you wonder how they win anything at all”
@@leggera1 Ferrari got bad lucks ever since 2013 too.
Never heard this story before. You guys have some of the best F1 content around. Thanks.
Excellent documentary. I believe the first car to have a Semi Auto gearbox was the Group B Audi Sport Quattro S1 E2 in the 1985 RAC Rally driven by Walter Rohrl, fitted with the Porsche PDK gearbox. There's a video on RUclips, the acceleration looks insane with close to 600BHP on tap
Glad Bozzy is getting attention!
Legend that guy
@@djdrastic1 yep. Highly legend.
I was hoping to hear about the man behind the original idea of the paddle shifters during the Villneuve days, Mauro Forghieri. The idea was dismissed not because of the technology but rather because of driver preference.
He mentioned this in his interview with Davide Cironi, right?
@@MortezaAlavizadeh Exactly
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british bias. Always try to depict Ferrari as a bunch of mafia gang without a clue for racing.
@@AaaBbb-ff1pn Ferrari does a good enough job of depicting themselves like that, they don't need the British help to seem like clowns 😂
Genuinely best f1 content, not even close
Amazing video! Thanks!
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Very good video.
Nice historic video. Thanks
Love these historic episodes. Fantastic video. It's surprising Ferrari managed to win anything with that kind of internal culture. Keep up the good work.
GIGABARNARD
This is an incredible video. Thank you.
Another 100.
Bravo 🎉🍝 Gros travail en amont 👏
I dislike internal politics but I love Ferrari F1 cars and Michael Schumacher. That's all.
Thank you!
A great video. Barnard was a genius.
Barnard is as genius as Stephen Collins.
Quite overrated actually. Brittish bias doesn't really help. He made a lot of really really bad cars also. Collins was way better imho
bozzy is an awesome channel
my gl 550 has paddle shifters and its absurdly fun in a vehicle that size.
John Barnard introduced the two most groundbreaking and radical designs to Formula 1; the Semi Auto Paddle Shifter and the Carbon Fiber Monocoque
I rate Barnard above Newey for innovation, contribution to the sport. People like this could see the big picture beyond the team they worked for.
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The semi automatic shifter was introduced by Forghieri but Villeneuve didn't like it and besides the first prototype was heavy, so the idea was put in a drawer where Barnard found it
it's kinda surprising to see ferrari still present even after such madness running indoors.
Always remember, an incompetent teammate can hold you back far more than a dominant rival
When Nigel Mansell found himself leading the first race, he was getting more and more furious as the race progressed because he knew it was going to conk out at any time but it managed to hold together and he won.
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Then Barnard got back to Ferrari in 1993 bringing a Benetton kind of raised nose in the 412T conveniently upgraded by Gustav Brunner...later on he got the 412 T2 and F310 old school low noses back, without any performance advantages over the previous concept.
Later in 1998 he went to Prost GP and designed the beauty AP02 that could only go fast on the straights...thanks to the berilium powered Peugeot A18 high stroke engine.
barnard also made the f1 front wing as we know it best😳
Barnard also pioneered the Carbon Fiber survival cell
Hell of a story
Book was $55 on amazon and wasn’t available in my library system in any format.
No racing franchise in history has defeated Ferrari more than Ferrari.
Interesting. I always thought the semi-auto box was included because the Ferrari V12 powerband was very narrow. That meant rapid changes were needed to keep it “boiling”.
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think about how much more successful Ferrari could have been if there was a togetherness other teams had in those days.
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Suddenly, the *fiasco* at the last *Monaco GP* and the *jumbled strategy* doesn't seem that bad anymore!
BOZZY!
Are you guys going to cover the budget cap complaints? I find it strange after Horner’s comments there has been so little from all Media calling him out when a race before both he and Helmut said they were well on budget for development?
Can't help, but notice incorrect map borders for the 1987-88 in your vid 5:15
❤️♥️Ferrari❤️❤️
The stats @8:12 tell you all you need to know about the 639 and 640. Clearly great cars, but all the efforts by Mansell and Berger thrown away unnecessarily.
I9bozzy going big
Internal politics at Ferrari? Some mistake surely! 😂
This concept was tested by Ferrari in early 80´s, designed by Mauro Forghieri and tested by Gilles Villeneuve. Gilles rejected the concept and was abandoned.
When some car maker have to much politic power in the country then pretty sure it's gonna be a messy one
No end of chronic counter productive internal politics at Ferrari!!! Im a huge fan btw!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
''Anarchy is a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body. It may also refer to a society or group of people that entirely rejects a set hierarchy. Anarchy was first used in English in 1539, meaning "an absence of government".
I doubt VERY much that theres EVER been Anarchy at Ferrari though guys,infact i would say its ALWAYS been the exact opposite!!!!! 🖤✊🏼🖤✊🏼🖤
Seeing that there is almost always a group of people at Ferrari that entirely rejects the set hierarchy, doesn't it fall exactly in line with the definition that you gave ?
@@Fayheurblode Anarchism is a lot more than I mention above,it's also anti capitalism and anti establishment, nothing shout both of these than more Ferrari!!! At it's best it's mutiny,nothing to do with Anarchism!!! Are you a member of the 'The Race' at all,or have you ever worked at Ferrari, wondering what your qualm is!?
@@michaelkyriacou7026 first, no need for outburst, it was just a question using your own words. Secondly, I am no insider in any way, shape or form, but an anarchy is not necessarily the anti-everything that you just painted when answering, a mutiny being a kind of anarchy, as during this time there no clear hierarchy, no clear power leading the team as a whole, once again falling on the question I asked earlier, and that you tried to deflect by venting this anger…
@@Fayheurblode Anarchism is misinterpreted and has been purposely demonised for decades,we get attacked from across the board,and fascist trolls are everywhere, reason why I'm on the defensive!!! Yeah Anarchism is anti a lot lot more than you're probably aware of,but it certainly isn't anti everything and at no point did I insinuate that!!!
"Mutiny"is a power take over,replacing one authoritarian system with another, nothing to do with Anarchy!!! Greek word meaning no authority,learders etc!!Anarchism is direct democracy, where every person is entitled to partake in every decision which effect there lives, and as a result the community as a whole!!!
Huh, Ferrari’s politics getting in the way.
Imagine that.
Actually I much prefer the look of the Tyrrell with its handlebar moustache to the Benetton which looks like a walrus
Anarchy doesn't mean what you think it means, The Race.
What you have here is opposing groups.
Hate paddle shift with a passion. Never found a single one that works properly.
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I have not seen the video yet. Just the headline. I am gonna put my money on toxic internal politics at Ferrari.
Internal politics at Ferrari? What a ridiculous notion!
As much as the politicking in Ferrari is their biggest problem is guess that it forces everyone to be on their toes which probably helps keep them competitive (most of the time)
Like we saw in Monaco, that is actually not what it does. It makes them mess up big time.
But did they sort out the drink?
Hahahaha
"What happened to the car" - Yeah we're just not gonna answer that. The chassis must be somewhere.
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I love it when RUclips says that there are only 4 views bit there are already 12 likes.
Sounds like Ferrari had too many cooks
Should be entertaining to watch Ferrari throw away both 2022 championships this year. For the simple fact that, they are Ferrari.
Finishing only 3 races in a season?
At least it was a win and two second places!
Why is the thumbnail a red tyrrell?
what could have been
Internal politics at Ferrari?! I'm shocked, SHOCKED!! ... Well not that shocked.
To drive those cars back then sitting so far forward right behind the front wheels, it took iron balls the size of coconuts.
The only, very pale comparison might be driving the old Volkswagen transporter in the left lane of the Autobahn. You really were the vehicle's crumple zone.
Unfortunately pasting the Fiat logo on their cars automatically added a full second to their lap times.
I know Porsche was quick to start offering the paddle shift option in their street going vehicles.
Working on two car designs at once in the off season, but both being shit? Sounds like Aston Martin to me
This don't come as a surprise. And this seems to follow Ferrari to this day. It seems politics and pride is holding Ferrari back in recent years but especially the latter. Politics are a part of every team for sure but with Ferrari it seems more affecting.
Ferrari- Being the European american of the european Union without confessing it.
What a diseased corporate environment that was!
damn, my english is bad, hard for me to understand the title…
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Title of this video is nothing but click bait
Bozzy has some of the best car porn on yt
This is Legit F1 Italian mafia style politics.
Godfather Enzo trying to be outsmarted by his son, who knows his father is weakening and is gunning for position as the new head of Ferrari.
Madness.
3rd
Politics, always ruining stuff 🥴
As an italian. I know how italians handle these kind of stuff and i believe the 2022 season for ferrari will go to shit
For me the invention of the paddle shift was the death of racing in F1. When drivers had to change gear physically there was a lot more room for error and misjudgement, allowing for overtakes when people made mistakes under pressure.
Semi automatic transmissions were around years before Formula 1 used them. If only they used full automatic transmissions, like the TH350 or Ford C4. Just stick it in drive and just go, which would open it to competitors with disabilities.
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1st
The days when designers were able to pretty much do whatever they wanted as long as they complied with the basic specifications, compared to today when the cars are essentially designed, in every last detail, by the FIA and no one is allowed any innovative ideas
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