@@soundscape26 yeah exactly, i think at Red Bull he just lost a bit motivation after realising that the car isnt great. but i dont think he was mistreated in anyway.
Honestly he was kinda a dick at redbull and ferrari, it wasn't until he moved to aston that he grew up. Completely different person between redbull vettel and aston vettel.
I’m not surprised it isn’t on the list, but I think Badoer and Ferrari’s split was quite rough. Badoer was a crucial test driver for Ferrari during their most successful period, putting in 1000s of testing kms using his consistency and technical prowess to help develop some of the greatest F1 cars ever. In 2009 Ferrari reluctantly let him drive for Massa when Schumacher was ruled out. The F60 was a dog of a car that took Kimi and Massa ages to get a hold of, and with no testing Luca was thrown to the dogs. He drowned, but was improving and got lots of praise from the other drivers for his underdog performance in ridiculous circumstances. His relationship with Ferrari deteriorated, and he was quietly dropped in 2010. I think it’s a sad end to an unsung career
I think that was the only season where 2 substitute drivers pretty much had their career ended in Ferrari, but I feel bad for Badoer as he was loyal to the team and wasn't even given a chance outside F1 like Fisi (who got to do Le Mans with Ferrari iirc)
Im surprised Lotus's team end and Kimi Raikonen didnt make the list. When mid season Kimi was doing great, way too great for the team, and Lotus realized they couldnt pay him anymore because the bonuses for such great finishes were well above projections. So They told Kimi they wouldnt be able to pay him as a driver anymore and Kimi said ok I wont drive for you anymore then. Lotus eventually decided to pay him, went bankrupt, and the team was gone. If that isnt a catastrophic end to both a partnership and a team then IDK what is.
Alonso's Ferrari stint had the saddest ending in his career. 2 world championship fights, and a lot of unrealized potential in the partnership, which ended with F14T in 2014.
One that I'd include is Mika Hakkinen and McLaren, 2001. 5th in the championship with 2 wins doesn't sound too bad on paper, but in truth, Mika Hakkinen's final season, not just with McLaren but in F1, was a sad way to sign off a great career where he went from perennial bridesmaid, to nearly losing his life in Adelaide 1995, to claiming his first win at Jerez 1997, albeit in controversial circumstances that he had little to do with, to 2 world titles in 3 years. But his 2001 season showed that combined with the 7 DNF's he endured (8 if you count his last lap heartbreak in Spain, where his car broke down with clutch failure and he was classified 9th) he was mentally and physically exhausted and after the birth of his son, Hugo, his priorities were clearly away from the track. Although Ron Dennis persuaded him to at least make 2002 a sabbatical year, during the German Grand Prix weekend of 2002, Hakkinen announced that it was in fact a retirement he had entered, meaning his F1 career was over
Also he had a nasty accident at the opener in Australia in 01 whilst closing on Michael (suspension failure), I think it gave him flashbacks to Adelaide 95(Puncture)!
Well that too and especially so considering how that decision was made apparently already in 2008, when he had just won WDC and WCC for them and another WCC by the end of that year. But I guess that Santander sponsorship and all the money it would rbing was too good for Ferrari to pass on. Unfortunately what it resulted in was beaten Massa and not a single championship with Alonso, although ofc lot of it had to do with the car itself and to Alonso's credit ofc he did drive brilliantly especially in 2012. Still I wonder what if that Kimi-Massa as teammates had continued for couple more years.
@@Balnazzardi I still remember Luca Di Montezemolo, in 2009 when addressing rumours about Kimi being replaced by Alonso, saying that their sponsors would never dictate who their drivers are. lol
Surprised Latifi and Williams weren’t on this list. He’s the only man to ever beat Lewis Hamilton in lesser machinery In the 2022 Hungarian GP FP3 session. 🐐
DC dropping out of McLaren led to the establishment of Red Bull Racing as a proper F1 team, when they bought out Jaguar/Ford in late 2004. He also helped persuade Adrian Newey to switch from McLaren to RB in 2005.
Bonus: I recall a lot how DC used to get very uncomfortable being asked to back/support, or whatever, McLaren post retirement - almost as if he had some contract saying he couldn't do so (from Red Bull).
Alain Prost ending with McLaren, Ferrari or Williams could be on that list too, the 1st after he felt the team gave more ressource to his teammate Senna, the 2nd when Ferrari left him by surprise at the end of the season, forcing him into a "sabbatical year" in 1992 (which could have been a winning year for him if he had the time to secure a seat with Williams), and the 3rd with Williams when they hired Senna to be his 1994 teammate when it was specifically ask not to do in his contract, pushing him into stoping his career (and with some buterfly effect leading to Senna's crash with the Williams)
No one ever really talks much about it, but is Prost really an a-hole? When you have a guy that has bad ends with multiple teams spanning a decade, like Alonso, you can usually find a trail of breadcrumbs leading to the fact that they are the actual problem. But with Prost, I never hear that. Just weird that a guy that has had so many poor fallouts has no whispers about him personally.
@@WhiteG60 different time where it was more about the team than the drivers, and each team had they own way of doing things. Prost 'problem" was probably that he wasn't as charismatic as his famous teammates like Senna or Lauda, but he was very vocal about the problems he had, with the team and sometime with the press. But at the end he beat all his teammates with the same car (or allegedly a worst one during his last year at McLaren). His story is forever linked with Senna story and Senna's talent felt more impressive because of Prost, but in the public eyes, every battle need a villain and a hero, especially with that much tension, and it's easy to see Senna as the hero, not just because of his passing but because of his charisma. Even I, as a French, and I was a Senna fan over Prost when I was a kid, now that I'm older I know they were both great in their own style and their fights on track made them both legendadry drivers, but I feel sometime people forget how good Prost was.
Despite how good his final season for Renault but Prost's exit from Renault at the end of 1983 season also should be mentioned here even though Prost had only just missed out on the world championship to Piquet at the final round in Kyalami by only a point the Renault F1 team and Renault executive board decided both to refused to take any responsibility for the car's lack of proper season development or for the team's failure to properly support Alain in the final rounds of the championship they instead they blamed Prost for underperforming which of course Prost's was indeed innocent of but anyway they decided to fired him as punishment and had the mechanics set fire to one of Prost's car's in protest to his precieved poor driving at the end of the season now I know that Prost was brilliant in his final year at but to getting fired for not winning the title by only a single point and then having your own car set on fire because they thought you weren't good enough has to count as a disappointing end to a time at a F1 team.
@mattm5029 well Charles Le Clerc, Daniel Ricciardo, Valteri Bottas, Gerhard Berger, Denny Hulme, Rubens Barrichello and the rest all have more wins than him. He was just a fast Pastor Maldonado who destroyed cars. He destroyed so many Williams that he was part of their downfall
@bzilla-d4i this was Schumacher era. It was a rarity that a race was won not by a Ferrari. Montoya beat one of the best of all time at their prime including a number of fastest lap records.
Vettel was good in the V8 cars, when it came to the Hybrid era a lot of things did not favour his driving style. He was fastest in the slowest era of F1 since the 1970's.
Mercedes' winning streak didn't end because Max Verstappen won in Abu Dhabi. It ended with the implementation of the new regulations. When they build a bounce mobile that gave you lumbago.
It wasn't the new regulations, it was the cost cap. Mercedes could no longer buy their way to an engine that was much more powerful than their competitors, giving them an advantage so big even an average driver like Hamilton can win all the time. Look at him now that he doesn't have a huge advantage, he's about as good as Daniel Ricciardo 😄
@@wolfvonderr4487 haha vettel deliberately not won that season to leave for ferrari and trigger his exit clause.Danny has been beaten so many times with his teammates
People always cry about Yuki not getting a fair deal, but look how Honda has always strangled teams pushing their rubbish drivers on customers and replacing actual talent like Frentzen.
Genuine question, why does everyone feel that Mercedes owes Hamilton? Lewis is a gread driver, but without those incredible cars in the turbo hybrid era, Lewis would definitely not win anywhere near as often.
This is a pointless question. You could make a reference like that about any championship driver... did hamilton make the difference in 2017-2018.. most certainly.
This is my POV - considering Hamilton has raced for Mercedes (including Mclaren, which used Mercedes power unit), he has became a benchmark for them to thrive in the sport. When Hamilton left, they had to choose someone else to become their benchmark, again in order to get the perfect balance of the car to suit their drivers' needs. I say it again, this is my point of view.
Because he's the one driving the car and getting the results. You need someone that can extract performance from the car on a regular basis. As we saw again in 24, having the best car does not mean it's easy to win. You need to align so many things every weekend. In 2021 Bottas and Perez had the same car as Hamilton and Verstappen, but if you rewatch the races you'll see Lewis and Max 30 to 50 seconds ahead of them in the races. That's why Mercedes owes Lewis. That's why Red Bull owes Max.
Exactly. They gave him the cars and the hefty paycheck and he proved that with a lesser car winning was not that easy. The fact that they considered him too old to still make the difference and wanting to go for a younger driver should not be held against Mercedes. Every team would consider it the same way. Still think that signing with Ferrari while already having signed with Mercedes a few months back and only coming clean when the news was leaked was not a classy move and the teams reaction was as expected . They concentrated on the driver that stayed. I don't know what anyone expected but life does go on and Mercedes nor Hamilton owe each other anything because all they had was bought and paid for long ago. The sentimental value lies in the mind of the fans. Hamilton was a part of the team. He is not the team.
12:25 atleast after that he got a drive worthy of his talent with BMW and not only won Le Mans but one of the most competitive and chaotic ones that was 1999.
I feel like the intro could have been a bit more introductory rather than just straight into the list. Something like with how Hamilton’s stint with Mercedes turned out we look at some other successful driver - term partnerships that ended badly
I've always thought Massa staying as long as he did a Ferrari (besides to please the Alonso camp) was as a pseudo compensation for the team not contesting crashgate whilst he was recovering from the Hungary incident
Don’t forget Ferrari had intended to replace him with Robert Kubica for 2012 after Massa had a dreadful 2011 but Kubica’s rally accident forced Ferrari’s hand to keep him even when there were alternatives. I wonder whether Alonso’s brilliance or the fact he couldn’t gel with the slick tyres/aero regs at the time contributed to his decline
I think all teams baring Torro Rosso Seb raced for ended badly. The hardest hit was Ferrari. Binotto should never have been made team principal at Ferrari, yes he was being beaten by Charles rather regularly but when Seb struggles his struggles are visibly catastrophic. It was the same with Daniel Ricciardo and with Charles Lerclerc. The culprit is the focus, while Seb is focused on wining races and championships, Daniel and Charles were Seb focused, their focus was to beat Seb to prove their existence in the team worthy. Charles & Daniel both without Seb didn't fare well, while Charles were destroyed by Max, Daniel was destroyed by Max, Lando and even on occasion by Hulk. Seb is still the darling of Formula One. I hope he returns. Now Formula One is all about Dan Dan Dan Max Verstappen Dan Dan Dan Dan. For Magic Max has no equal in Formula One, having won his 4th title in a 4th best car.
I really wonder how these cars cause some of the older drivers to lose the sensation they once had (i.e. Perez, Ricciardo, Hamilton, and Bottas to name a few. Lewis by far has coped the best but it’s still interesting how many are getting caught out by it).
I wouldnt even call Hamilton end at Mercedes as really sad. He got two wins this season and he left on his own and wasnt kicked out like others on this list. Of course it was not as succesful as the earlier years, but it was still not that bad. I think Schumachers end at Ferrari 2006 was more sad. He was kind of forced into retirement with Ferrari hiring Kimi and he didnt want his friend Massa to lose the seat. Also Mansell (92) and Hill (96) with Williams should be on this list imho. getting kicked out after just winning the WDC is kind of rude.
You can easily double this list and not only with modern era examples: 1987 Senna Lotus 1989 Prost McLaren 1990 Mansell Ferrari 1991 Prost Ferrari 1992 Mansell Williams 1993 Senna McLaren 1995 Schumacher Benetton 1995 Alesi and Berger Ferrari 1996 Hill Williams 2000 Hill Jordan 2002 Button Renault 2006 Villeneuve BMW Sauber 2007 Alonso McLaren 2009 Raikkonen Ferrari 2012 Hamilton McLaren 2013 Raikkonen Lotus 2013 Webber Red Bull 2014 Alonso Ferrari 2016 Kvyat Red Bull 2016 Palmer Renault 2018 Ricciardo Red Bull 2021 Kvyat Alpha Thauri 2022 Ricciardo McLaren 2024 Ocon Alpine And I’m sure I forgot a few
00:37 Ah yes, running from a teammate fight, that sounds like Vettel the man who had to be fired over the phone to leave Ferrari, when he wanted to stay knowing full well that the upper management was trying to pull the team in Leclerc's direction, that Vettel... I mean it's not like an offer from the biggest and most historic team in F1, whom Vettel saw his childhood hero and personal friend (who had just gone into a coma months before that) win multiple WDCs with, would be an attractive offer, specially when you consider that he had already won 4 back-to-back titles and had already set his name in F1 history... good video otherwise (99.9% of the video)
Bonus question: Of those listed (and your own ideas...like, you do what you want!) Which would you say was the most painful and unjustified end? And which ending was the most justified/best business decision?
Ferrari have an ilustrious history of ruining drivers who aren't the preferred number 1. S'gonna be interesting who inevitability suffers the same fate between Leclerc & Hamilton.
Stewart x Tyrrell Won the championship, sure but with Cevert crash in practice for the last race, the team withdrew from what would’ve been Stewart’s 100th gp. Not ‘sad’ in the acrimonious way most of the partnerships listed here, just genuinely sad
@@kruger7796Or even if he wins 2 or 3 races which in practical terms is the same, him not fighting for the title. I think he can put up with a season like that, but two and he's out.
@@soundscape26 Perhaps. But this I think anything similar to what happend to Vettel in his final season in RB wont happen to Max until 2026 where the new rules come in to place. We can't forget why Vettel fell off. It wasn't just the car being worse than the year before but also the fact Vettel himself did not adapt well to the new car. The 2025 car will be very similar to what Max is already very used to.
I think Vettel's ends both with Red Bull and Ferrari were the most sad, considering he had lead both of those teams until newcomer came along and he couldnt match their pace and quickly wasnt the number 1 in the team anymore.
Before I watch, let me guess: Lauda Ferrari Alesi Ferrari Schumacher Ferrari Alonso Ferrari Vettel Ferrari Marlboro McLaren Shell McLaren Dennis McLaren Alonso McLaren Frentzen Jordan Trulli Renault Alboreto Tyrell ING Renault All managers at Jaguar Mansell Lotus
I hope my boy LH44, doesn't forget his roots we eat bread with sugar water. We fight !And even when we win you. We fight. Tomorrow is another day. Lewis we are going to make it happen🎉
read the title "great partnerships" Both McLaren stints weren't the Ferrari one I'll give you, getting close enough to champion for a final race showdown in two separate years is great. Then bookended by the embarrassing fucking F14T
how was vettel ferrari a great partnership? he had cars capable of winning and threw away any chance he had by wrecking himself time after time. even the alonso-ferrari era had more credible title challenges
I feel like most of the editors at The Race have an axe to grind against Lewis. Their editors are always a bit reserved in their praise for Lewis and spend much longer discussing, writing and creating negative videos about him. I am all for calling spade a spade, but it does feel like they covertly enjoy seeing Lewis do poorly. And revel in Max doing well. Sad to see. At least come out and admit who you support. There is nothing wrong with that. I will say that they put out good content in general. It's just that having followed their articles and videos for many years now, you can't help but see an anti-Lewis trend, as covert as it may be.
How’s is Schumachers forced departure from Ferrari not here? He brought them success then was told to leave before he wanted. Talk about turned back on
Michael stayed with Ferrari after his racing days. The decision may have been made for him in the end, but I think he would have retired that year anyway. Besides, he stayed with Ferrari after 2006. He was a test driver and brand ambassador for Ferrari until he left for Mercedes. He was also involved in the development of the road cars. So nobody can talk about a sad end to the partnership...
I still feel the best partnership in F1 was Schumacher/Ferrari, won 3 races in his opening season in a poor car, then led them to 5 drivers & 6 constructors. I think its unfair to count Mclaren & Mercedes as one, WE are not the same, yes Mercedes engine, but a Mclaren car & gearbox. Mclaren ethos! 2024 Champions! 🏆 😀
For long lasting partnerships I agree, Hamilton landed in a finished product that had unprecedented dominance over other teams, especially in the engine department. Michael had to build Ferrari back from chaos into winning ways for years and the only reason it ended was because he was starting to become bigger than the team in the public eyes, something the Ferrari bosses were not pleased with. Mercedes was gonna be a successful project either way, with Rosberg leading the team they'd still win most of those WDCs in the original turbo hybrid V6 era. Maybe the stats wouldn't be as impressive, but the titles are really what matters. Meanwhile Ferrari despite all its resources and prestige have won a SINGLE title since 1979 that didn't include Michael, which was Raikkonen who was driving in the team structure Michael had helped build. We had so many great drivers, even multiple WDC champions driving and they all fell short over ultimate glory. To me that tells me what Michael achieved was something truly special. Michael was the one that launched Ferrari back into glory, for Hamilton and Mercedes it feels the other way around.
@mrgalaxy396 Even though I'm a Mclaren fan, I think Ferrari & Schumacher's 2002 title was the most impressive season ever. There where No rule changes for 2002, the only major change was Mclaren returning to Michelin. The F2002 was georgeos, & the 15 wins it took where dominant. It's not to put down Lewis or Max's dominant seasons, but in an era with multiple tyre companies, V10's that incredible to listen too, & Ferrari's extraordinary reliability after the 1996 horror's(1st Ferrari V10) It was really impressive. Very sad that Michael isn't around the paddock to get his due reverence. 😔
All good things come to an end and Mercedes needed to plan their future long term. Hamilton got paid, broken records and multiple championships. Don’t cry for him
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The fact that Vettel is on this list twice is so sad. He's one of the drivers that least deserved to be mistreated, but he had a sour end twice.
He was mistreated at Ferrari not so much Red Bull
@@soundscape26 yeah exactly, i think at Red Bull he just lost a bit motivation after realising that the car isnt great. but i dont think he was mistreated in anyway.
It just shows that Vettel is washed, which is saddening
Honestly he was kinda a dick at redbull and ferrari, it wasn't until he moved to aston that he grew up. Completely different person between redbull vettel and aston vettel.
@@turbo_briannothing wrong with that. Common trait in F1 champions
I’m not surprised it isn’t on the list, but I think Badoer and Ferrari’s split was quite rough. Badoer was a crucial test driver for Ferrari during their most successful period, putting in 1000s of testing kms using his consistency and technical prowess to help develop some of the greatest F1 cars ever.
In 2009 Ferrari reluctantly let him drive for Massa when Schumacher was ruled out. The F60 was a dog of a car that took Kimi and Massa ages to get a hold of, and with no testing Luca was thrown to the dogs. He drowned, but was improving and got lots of praise from the other drivers for his underdog performance in ridiculous circumstances. His relationship with Ferrari deteriorated, and he was quietly dropped in 2010.
I think it’s a sad end to an unsung career
My delusions is what if Luca Badoer was still in Minardi after 2005, so Minardi can using Ferrari engines.
Yep I remember that. And Ferrari took no responsibility for why he was slow they just threw him under the bus
That and Giancarlo Fisichella who had been racing all season didn't do much better as his replacement too.
with his two races however its not a miracle that this happened and that there wasnt much you could do to avoid it
I think that was the only season where 2 substitute drivers pretty much had their career ended in Ferrari, but I feel bad for Badoer as he was loyal to the team and wasn't even given a chance outside F1 like Fisi (who got to do Le Mans with Ferrari iirc)
Im surprised Lotus's team end and Kimi Raikonen didnt make the list. When mid season Kimi was doing great, way too great for the team, and Lotus realized they couldnt pay him anymore because the bonuses for such great finishes were well above projections. So They told Kimi they wouldnt be able to pay him as a driver anymore and Kimi said ok I wont drive for you anymore then. Lotus eventually decided to pay him, went bankrupt, and the team was gone. If that isnt a catastrophic end to both a partnership and a team then IDK what is.
Kimi signed with Ferrari before his second season with lotus. He was very very secure.
Lewis Hamilton's end wasn't as miserable as it could have been. In the end it was a pretty solid end to such an amazing duo, after 12 years.
This is what happens when you set the bar for greatness.
Alonso's Ferrari stint had the saddest ending in his career. 2 world championship fights, and a lot of unrealized potential in the partnership, which ended with F14T in 2014.
One that I'd include is Mika Hakkinen and McLaren, 2001. 5th in the championship with 2 wins doesn't sound too bad on paper, but in truth, Mika Hakkinen's final season, not just with McLaren but in F1, was a sad way to sign off a great career where he went from perennial bridesmaid, to nearly losing his life in Adelaide 1995, to claiming his first win at Jerez 1997, albeit in controversial circumstances that he had little to do with, to 2 world titles in 3 years.
But his 2001 season showed that combined with the 7 DNF's he endured (8 if you count his last lap heartbreak in Spain, where his car broke down with clutch failure and he was classified 9th) he was mentally and physically exhausted and after the birth of his son, Hugo, his priorities were clearly away from the track.
Although Ron Dennis persuaded him to at least make 2002 a sabbatical year, during the German Grand Prix weekend of 2002, Hakkinen announced that it was in fact a retirement he had entered, meaning his F1 career was over
Also he had a nasty accident at the opener in Australia in 01 whilst closing on Michael (suspension failure), I think it gave him flashbacks to Adelaide 95(Puncture)!
@grdixon83 he did indeed, I recall him looking visibly shaken afterwards
2009 Kimi leaving Ferrari and F1 for a few seasons because Alonso sponsors paid for that was pretty sad
Well that too and especially so considering how that decision was made apparently already in 2008, when he had just won WDC and WCC for them and another WCC by the end of that year. But I guess that Santander sponsorship and all the money it would rbing was too good for Ferrari to pass on. Unfortunately what it resulted in was beaten Massa and not a single championship with Alonso, although ofc lot of it had to do with the car itself and to Alonso's credit ofc he did drive brilliantly especially in 2012. Still I wonder what if that Kimi-Massa as teammates had continued for couple more years.
@@Balnazzardi I still remember Luca Di Montezemolo, in 2009 when addressing rumours about Kimi being replaced by Alonso, saying that their sponsors would never dictate who their drivers are. lol
Surprised Latifi and Williams weren’t on this list. He’s the only man to ever beat Lewis Hamilton in lesser machinery
In the 2022 Hungarian GP FP3 session. 🐐
DC dropping out of McLaren led to the establishment of Red Bull Racing as a proper F1 team, when they bought out Jaguar/Ford in late 2004.
He also helped persuade Adrian Newey to switch from McLaren to RB in 2005.
Bonus: I recall a lot how DC used to get very uncomfortable being asked to back/support, or whatever, McLaren post retirement - almost as if he had some contract saying he couldn't do so (from Red Bull).
Massa definitely missed Raikkonen. There is a video of him asking a Finnish reporter if Raikkonen was coming back during his time rallying.
Alain Prost ending with McLaren, Ferrari or Williams could be on that list too, the 1st after he felt the team gave more ressource to his teammate Senna, the 2nd when Ferrari left him by surprise at the end of the season, forcing him into a "sabbatical year" in 1992 (which could have been a winning year for him if he had the time to secure a seat with Williams), and the 3rd with Williams when they hired Senna to be his 1994 teammate when it was specifically ask not to do in his contract, pushing him into stoping his career (and with some buterfly effect leading to Senna's crash with the Williams)
No one ever really talks much about it, but is Prost really an a-hole? When you have a guy that has bad ends with multiple teams spanning a decade, like Alonso, you can usually find a trail of breadcrumbs leading to the fact that they are the actual problem. But with Prost, I never hear that. Just weird that a guy that has had so many poor fallouts has no whispers about him personally.
@@WhiteG60 different time where it was more about the team than the drivers, and each team had they own way of doing things. Prost 'problem" was probably that he wasn't as charismatic as his famous teammates like Senna or Lauda, but he was very vocal about the problems he had, with the team and sometime with the press. But at the end he beat all his teammates with the same car (or allegedly a worst one during his last year at McLaren).
His story is forever linked with Senna story and Senna's talent felt more impressive because of Prost, but in the public eyes, every battle need a villain and a hero, especially with that much tension, and it's easy to see Senna as the hero, not just because of his passing but because of his charisma. Even I, as a French, and I was a Senna fan over Prost when I was a kid, now that I'm older I know they were both great in their own style and their fights on track made them both legendadry drivers, but I feel sometime people forget how good Prost was.
Despite how good his final season for Renault but Prost's exit from Renault at the end of 1983 season also should be mentioned here even though Prost had only just missed out on the world championship to Piquet at the final round in Kyalami by only a point the Renault F1 team and Renault executive board decided both to refused to take any responsibility for the car's lack of proper season development or for the team's failure to properly support Alain in the final rounds of the championship they instead they blamed Prost for underperforming which of course Prost's was indeed innocent of but anyway they decided to fired him as punishment and had the mechanics set fire to one of Prost's car's in protest to his precieved poor driving at the end of the season now I know that Prost was brilliant in his final year at but to getting fired for not winning the title by only a single point and then having your own car set on fire because they thought you weren't good enough has to count as a disappointing end to a time at a F1 team.
Minardi mentioned 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Ed's input I bet
What about Montoya's exit from McLaren in 2006? Ron Dennis had a lot to do there.
Well this wasn't a great partnership was it?
Montoya was basically a better version of Maldonado. Sir Crash A Lot
@@bzilla-d4iMontoya was 7 times the winner than Maldonado
@mattm5029 well Charles Le Clerc, Daniel Ricciardo, Valteri Bottas, Gerhard Berger, Denny Hulme, Rubens Barrichello and the rest all have more wins than him. He was just a fast Pastor Maldonado who destroyed cars. He destroyed so many Williams that he was part of their downfall
@bzilla-d4i this was Schumacher era. It was a rarity that a race was won not by a Ferrari. Montoya beat one of the best of all time at their prime including a number of fastest lap records.
Vettel was good in the V8 cars, when it came to the Hybrid era a lot of things did not favour his driving style. He was fastest in the slowest era of F1 since the 1970's.
Mercedes' winning streak didn't end because Max Verstappen won in Abu Dhabi.
It ended with the implementation of the new regulations.
When they build a bounce mobile that gave you lumbago.
Yeah and to this day it appears they still don't know why their car is working or not in different circumstances.
It wasn't the new regulations, it was the cost cap. Mercedes could no longer buy their way to an engine that was much more powerful than their competitors, giving them an advantage so big even an average driver like Hamilton can win all the time. Look at him now that he doesn't have a huge advantage, he's about as good as Daniel Ricciardo 😄
Mercedes winning streak ended, cause they couldn't get to grips with the new 2022 regulations, which they basically still don't.
@@PretendMe This is the correct analysis. Also, you've been banned from the United Kingdom 😂
I trust you have the fullest and sincerest sympathy for how Ferrari's and Schumacher's streak ended too then?
The saddest ending was when Ayrton left the partnership with this world
Yeah, add two more sad endings and maybe we can have a list with 15 items on it
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You said it!
I'll never forget when Senna won 15 races in a row!
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Ricciardo - Red Bull?
missing the "great" aspect🤣
He’s still technically with them
Ricciardo is not even a top 10 driver
@@psi-phen dethroning a 4-time WDC should be considered part of the 'great' stories.
@@wolfvonderr4487 haha vettel deliberately not won that season to leave for ferrari and trigger his exit clause.Danny has been beaten so many times with his teammates
You all have not held back any punches in this video and I love it!
People always cry about Yuki not getting a fair deal, but look how Honda has always strangled teams pushing their rubbish drivers on customers and replacing actual talent like Frentzen.
Genuine question, why does everyone feel that Mercedes owes Hamilton? Lewis is a gread driver, but without those incredible cars in the turbo hybrid era, Lewis would definitely not win anywhere near as often.
How asinine is that argument? Shocker - a driver that is not driving the fastest car is less likely to win than a driver with the fastest car
This is a pointless question. You could make a reference like that about any championship driver... did hamilton make the difference in 2017-2018.. most certainly.
This is my POV - considering Hamilton has raced for Mercedes (including Mclaren, which used Mercedes power unit), he has became a benchmark for them to thrive in the sport. When Hamilton left, they had to choose someone else to become their benchmark, again in order to get the perfect balance of the car to suit their drivers' needs.
I say it again, this is my point of view.
Because he's the one driving the car and getting the results. You need someone that can extract performance from the car on a regular basis. As we saw again in 24, having the best car does not mean it's easy to win. You need to align so many things every weekend. In 2021 Bottas and Perez had the same car as Hamilton and Verstappen, but if you rewatch the races you'll see Lewis and Max 30 to 50 seconds ahead of them in the races. That's why Mercedes owes Lewis. That's why Red Bull owes Max.
Exactly. They gave him the cars and the hefty paycheck and he proved that with a lesser car winning was not that easy. The fact that they considered him too old to still make the difference and wanting to go for a younger driver should not be held against Mercedes. Every team would consider it the same way.
Still think that signing with Ferrari while already having signed with Mercedes a few months back and only coming clean when the news was leaked was not a classy move and the teams reaction was as expected . They concentrated on the driver that stayed.
I don't know what anyone expected but life does go on and Mercedes nor Hamilton owe each other anything because all they had was bought and paid for long ago.
The sentimental value lies in the mind of the fans. Hamilton was a part of the team. He is not the team.
12:25 atleast after that he got a drive worthy of his talent with BMW and not only won Le Mans but one of the most competitive and chaotic ones that was 1999.
I feel like the intro could have been a bit more introductory rather than just straight into the list.
Something like with how Hamilton’s stint with Mercedes turned out we look at some other successful driver - term partnerships that ended badly
Why do more work when all the RUclips Algorithm needs is a 10min video.
@@KyleMc16 It's 8 minutes now so bad luck on your theory
Ayeo the edits of the pictures which made em 3d ish at the beginning is super cool!!
Germany 2018.. the beginning of the end for Vettel
Need more of these videos again!
It's staggering that you can drag a 10 min video out of a single headline but rush your way through something interesting like this
Blame the algorithm.
I think the video is fine as it is, typical off-season list
Shout out to my Friendzen, Heinz-Harald, also known as the Frentzen
Another list at last!!!
Could we not do the AI “enhanced” images, let the past be the past without some half baked extra frames.
John Surtees-Ferrari 1966
I've always thought Massa staying as long as he did a Ferrari (besides to please the Alonso camp) was as a pseudo compensation for the team not contesting crashgate whilst he was recovering from the Hungary incident
Don’t forget Ferrari had intended to replace him with Robert Kubica for 2012 after Massa had a dreadful 2011 but Kubica’s rally accident forced Ferrari’s hand to keep him even when there were alternatives.
I wonder whether Alonso’s brilliance or the fact he couldn’t gel with the slick tyres/aero regs at the time contributed to his decline
Massa and Vettel were absolutely fucked by Ferrari, pretty disgraceful really
And both Massa and Vettel would have given Ferrari the shirt off their back, but nope.
I think all teams baring Torro Rosso Seb raced for ended badly. The hardest hit was Ferrari. Binotto should never have been made team principal at Ferrari, yes he was being beaten by Charles rather regularly but when Seb struggles his struggles are visibly catastrophic. It was the same with Daniel Ricciardo and with Charles Lerclerc.
The culprit is the focus, while Seb is focused on wining races and championships, Daniel and Charles were Seb focused, their focus was to beat Seb to prove their existence in the team worthy. Charles & Daniel both without Seb didn't fare well, while Charles were destroyed by Max, Daniel was destroyed by Max, Lando and even on occasion by Hulk.
Seb is still the darling of Formula One. I hope he returns.
Now Formula One is all about Dan Dan Dan Max Verstappen Dan Dan Dan Dan. For Magic Max has no equal in Formula One, having won his 4th title in a 4th best car.
Nice variety in this list
Small mistake. In 1985 Brabham's rivals were on Goodyear. Michelin left at the end of '84.
I really wonder how these cars cause some of the older drivers to lose the sensation they once had (i.e. Perez, Ricciardo, Hamilton, and Bottas to name a few. Lewis by far has coped the best but it’s still interesting how many are getting caught out by it).
I think vettel really struggled after his hockenheim crash and never really recovered which exasperated his results falling off from 2018-2020
Man I'm early 😂 love your content, keeps us going while we await the 2025 season
Man, that Alonso is a real piece of work. Aston Martin should get rid asap
Let's not forget that in 1997 and 2001 Coulthard outperformed Hakkinen soundly.
Surprised the Piquet/Benneton of 1991 wasn't mentioned.
Straightforward intro, that's a new one
I wouldnt even call Hamilton end at Mercedes as really sad. He got two wins this season and he left on his own and wasnt kicked out like others on this list. Of course it was not as succesful as the earlier years, but it was still not that bad.
I think Schumachers end at Ferrari 2006 was more sad. He was kind of forced into retirement with Ferrari hiring Kimi and he didnt want his friend Massa to lose the seat.
Also Mansell (92) and Hill (96) with Williams should be on this list imho. getting kicked out after just winning the WDC is kind of rude.
This should be a video full of the “burning bridges man “ himself Alonso: 06,07,09,14,18,22
0:46 "It's easy to overlook Coulthard"
So what else is new?
You can easily double this list and not only with modern era examples:
1987 Senna Lotus
1989 Prost McLaren
1990 Mansell Ferrari
1991 Prost Ferrari
1992 Mansell Williams
1993 Senna McLaren
1995 Schumacher Benetton
1995 Alesi and Berger Ferrari
1996 Hill Williams
2000 Hill Jordan
2002 Button Renault
2006 Villeneuve BMW Sauber
2007 Alonso McLaren
2009 Raikkonen Ferrari
2012 Hamilton McLaren
2013 Raikkonen Lotus
2013 Webber Red Bull
2014 Alonso Ferrari
2016 Kvyat Red Bull
2016 Palmer Renault
2018 Ricciardo Red Bull
2021 Kvyat Alpha Thauri
2022 Ricciardo McLaren
2024 Ocon Alpine
And I’m sure I forgot a few
00:37
Ah yes, running from a teammate fight, that sounds like Vettel the man who had to be fired over the phone to leave Ferrari, when he wanted to stay knowing full well that the upper management was trying to pull the team in Leclerc's direction, that Vettel...
I mean it's not like an offer from the biggest and most historic team in F1, whom Vettel saw his childhood hero and personal friend (who had just gone into a coma months before that) win multiple WDCs with, would be an attractive offer, specially when you consider that he had already won 4 back-to-back titles and had already set his name in F1 history...
good video otherwise (99.9% of the video)
Ferrari are like the grim reaper of championship wining drivers: Prost, Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen...
Anyone know the story behind Eddie Jordan flipping off the camera at 2:48 ?
Dont forget Prost in 1990 and Nando in 2007
Bonus question: Of those listed (and your own ideas...like, you do what you want!)
Which would you say was the most painful and unjustified end?
And which ending was the most justified/best business decision?
I'm assuming that Senna's 1993 departure from McLaren was an hallucination.
Imagine hiring a driver to win a WC for you then not believing he can do it. Only at Ferrari man
Ferrari have an ilustrious history of ruining drivers who aren't the preferred number 1. S'gonna be interesting who inevitability suffers the same fate between Leclerc & Hamilton.
I'm surprised nelson piquet jr isn't on this list, given he got high level team members banned from the sport lol.
Fangio, Surtess, Arnoux, Mansell, Prost and Ferrari?
No mention of Damon Hill getting the sack as World Champion? 💀
Feel like we’re missing: Perez - Red Bull Racing - 2024😅
What about Prost and Ferrari?
Lewis did well he was on experimental set ups last year
"Fernando is faster than you"
was the Michael not pushed out by LCdM ?
Stewart x Tyrrell
Won the championship, sure but with Cevert crash in practice for the last race, the team withdrew from what would’ve been Stewart’s 100th gp. Not ‘sad’ in the acrimonious way most of the partnerships listed here, just genuinely sad
Alonso and Renault is like that one toxic couple that can't quite quit each other
Formula 1 is tough and sometimes brutal sports.
Just look at RedBull changing drivers lineups in the past years
Funny how alonso got mentioned so many times🤔😂
That tiny pace difference, in a car that was built to suit Russell, just shows you how unremarkable Russell really is. 😂
I think the Vettel - RB history will be the same with Verstappen
That implies that Max wont win a race in 2025. Which is possible but only if RB has seriously fucked up the car.
@@kruger7796Or even if he wins 2 or 3 races which in practical terms is the same, him not fighting for the title.
I think he can put up with a season like that, but two and he's out.
@@soundscape26 Perhaps. But this I think anything similar to what happend to Vettel in his final season in RB wont happen to Max until 2026 where the new rules come in to place. We can't forget why Vettel fell off. It wasn't just the car being worse than the year before but also the fact Vettel himself did not adapt well to the new car. The 2025 car will be very similar to what Max is already very used to.
I think Vettel's ends both with Red Bull and Ferrari were the most sad, considering he had lead both of those teams until newcomer came along and he couldnt match their pace and quickly wasnt the number 1 in the team anymore.
Every team what Alonso left...
Before I watch, let me guess:
Lauda Ferrari
Alesi Ferrari
Schumacher Ferrari
Alonso Ferrari
Vettel Ferrari
Marlboro McLaren
Shell McLaren
Dennis McLaren
Alonso McLaren
Frentzen Jordan
Trulli Renault
Alboreto Tyrell
ING Renault
All managers at Jaguar
Mansell Lotus
You got a couple right 😂😂😂
Let me correct you: A rascist and Brabham
Hamilton’s ‘decline’ was Wolf’s revenge…
No Honda, McLaren and Alonso?
Trulli Renault?
super video👍👍 schade ist josef so negativ:(
I hope my boy LH44, doesn't forget his roots we eat bread with sugar water. We fight !And even when we win you. We fight. Tomorrow is another day. Lewis we are going to make it happen🎉
The way Vettel was emasculated by Ricciardo after winning four straight titles was a sight to behold.
ALONSO??? 😂 😂😂 Disaster at McLaren, Ferrari, McLaren (again), Aston is currently on thin ice 🧊…
read the title "great partnerships"
Both McLaren stints weren't
the Ferrari one I'll give you,
getting close enough to champion for a final race showdown in two separate years is great.
Then bookended by the embarrassing fucking F14T
It's funny how Alonso's insidious behaviour and disastrous team dynamics is being sooo overlooked in the comments
So no one likes alonso? Thats crazy
But usually for the great drivers that’s how it ends
how was vettel ferrari a great partnership? he had cars capable of winning and threw away any chance he had by wrecking himself time after time. even the alonso-ferrari era had more credible title challenges
RB and Anyone.
✌😇👍
This is the 1st video you upload for 2025
Alonso was champion in 05/06 not 08/09,
Ralph had spinal injuries not just a concussion.
Okay the Lewis-Mercedes partnership wasn’t THAT bad
poor seb couldn't do what his hero did
Surprised Ayrton Senna - Williams 1994 isn’t on here.
I think death isn't being considered here
Sainz and ferrari?
Let's be fair vettel went from Ferrari because of how he acted and Ferrari wouldn't put up with it
I feel like most of the editors at The Race have an axe to grind against Lewis. Their editors are always a bit reserved in their praise for Lewis and spend much longer discussing, writing and creating negative videos about him.
I am all for calling spade a spade, but it does feel like they covertly enjoy seeing Lewis do poorly. And revel in Max doing well. Sad to see.
At least come out and admit who you support. There is nothing wrong with that.
I will say that they put out good content in general. It's just that having followed their articles and videos for many years now, you can't help but see an anti-Lewis trend, as covert as it may be.
Nope you have it wrong, it's quite the opposite.
As opposed to Sky Sports who do anything to lick his arse? No wonder Damon Hill is gone.
@@noelcollins2355 No, good sir. It is I, that is in the right. Toodles.
Mazepin - Haas?
lol
Haas never recovered after Mazepin left. It was a hard blow.
This vid is about great partnerships, Mazespin was an embarrassing pay driver, who should never have been in F1 in the first place 😂
How’s is Schumachers forced departure from Ferrari not here? He brought them success then was told to leave before he wanted. Talk about turned back on
Michael stayed with Ferrari after his racing days. The decision may have been made for him in the end, but I think he would have retired that year anyway. Besides, he stayed with Ferrari after 2006. He was a test driver and brand ambassador for Ferrari until he left for Mercedes. He was also involved in the development of the road cars. So nobody can talk about a sad end to the partnership...
Cant wait for leclerc to wipe the floor with Hamilton
Why does Alonso get respect from fans and pundits? Do his peers and contemporary drivers respect him? I doubt it.
I still feel the best partnership in F1 was Schumacher/Ferrari, won 3 races in his opening season in a poor car, then led them to 5 drivers & 6 constructors. I think its unfair to count Mclaren & Mercedes as one, WE are not the same, yes Mercedes engine, but a Mclaren car & gearbox. Mclaren ethos! 2024 Champions! 🏆 😀
For long lasting partnerships I agree, Hamilton landed in a finished product that had unprecedented dominance over other teams, especially in the engine department. Michael had to build Ferrari back from chaos into winning ways for years and the only reason it ended was because he was starting to become bigger than the team in the public eyes, something the Ferrari bosses were not pleased with.
Mercedes was gonna be a successful project either way, with Rosberg leading the team they'd still win most of those WDCs in the original turbo hybrid V6 era. Maybe the stats wouldn't be as impressive, but the titles are really what matters. Meanwhile Ferrari despite all its resources and prestige have won a SINGLE title since 1979 that didn't include Michael, which was Raikkonen who was driving in the team structure Michael had helped build. We had so many great drivers, even multiple WDC champions driving and they all fell short over ultimate glory. To me that tells me what Michael achieved was something truly special. Michael was the one that launched Ferrari back into glory, for Hamilton and Mercedes it feels the other way around.
@mrgalaxy396 Even though I'm a Mclaren fan, I think Ferrari & Schumacher's 2002 title was the most impressive season ever. There where No rule changes for 2002, the only major change was Mclaren returning to Michelin. The F2002 was georgeos, & the 15 wins it took where dominant. It's not to put down Lewis or Max's dominant seasons, but in an era with multiple tyre companies, V10's that incredible to listen too, & Ferrari's extraordinary reliability after the 1996 horror's(1st Ferrari V10) It was really impressive. Very sad that Michael isn't around the paddock to get his due reverence. 😔
All good things come to an end and Mercedes needed to plan their future long term. Hamilton got paid, broken records and multiple championships. Don’t cry for him
Why is everything over blown lewis end to Mercedes has not been sad or miserable he won 2 races this year
2025 will be a dud
Senna-Williams 1994 was the saddest goodbye imho 😢