Love to do the strict/military press from the floor up. it's the only exercise. I really try to go heavy on tend to use dips, press n pull-ups to warm-up.
I have had better luck thinking of pulling the bar down to my clavicle rather than focusing on pushing my hips forward. My hips still go forward and rebound but for some reason pulling the bar down helps me initiate the movement better.
You're supposed to think about pulling the bar to your clavicle like you already are. The hip drive simply gives you the oomph to stretch open your chest and bring the bar even closer to your clavicle to recruit more muscle mass through involuntary means aka stretch reflex. It's a neurological trick to get more muscle recruitment.
Ha, I knew it was hips! I learned this movement myself after a lot of weird experiments in my first few years. Eventually I even stopped using a belt cause it lessens the spinginess of my torso, makes the movement more rigid than it should be.
Why is bending the knees considered cheating and moving the hips to bounce the bar not cheating? If the goal is training the shoulders/vertical pressing,wouldn't stationary hips keep the stress in the intended area?
If you didn’t have a head, yes. Perhaps if you had something like a trap bar that wrapped around your head, also yes. But we are using a bar. And it starts under your chin, so you have to move your chin and head out of the way.
@@handsomegames1433I would agree with you if you limited yourself to leaning back at the beginning of the movement. The issue is turning a static, "strict" press into a dynamic movement. This is even more true for the OHP 2.0 which involves a second lean back after the bar is above the forehead. Strict presses are possible even at very high loads (300+), but they're harder.
Using your legs is a bigger variable to control than a hip bounce. If you do push press, you tend to use more leg drive as you get more fatigued. Hip bounce helps you to get through the most mechanically disadvantageous part of the lift and allows more weight to be lifted than with a strict press. Starting Strength method favors the Olympic press variant with novice trainees, but all other press variants can be used later to train for a big press.
Probably not. The lumbar spine should remain locked and neutral. Hips forward is just hip overextension used to create an upward drive, and as a consequence, the distance between the glutes and the low back is shortened/they end up closer. So long as you're not using a lumbar bend, you should be fine.
It always bothered me the bar never starts paused off the chest. I wonder how much difference it makes in amount you can handle. Like an atg squat isn't necessarily as beneficial as it would appear to be vs being just below parallel
There is nothing magical or complete about touching your chest. It's an arbitrary spot that you've assigned importance to. It's not like the squat. You should absolutely use the full rom possible / go as low as possible in a press. The caveat is that you still need to maintain proper form. The mechanically advantageous bottom position of a press has your elbows in front of the bar. Try it at your desk right now. keep your elbows in front of your fists and press down as far as you can. If you had a bar in your hands, would it be touching your chest? For 99% of people, it would not. To get from that position to your chest means loosening up and letting your elbows travel backwards. You're better off just keeping stable & pressing from the right spot to start with.
I experienced lower back issues on the standing overhead press and last year switched to a 60 degree bench overhead press. Can you comment on the differences? As the bench supports my low back I have greatly increased the weight that I can press pain free.
@@jamesianv Dead lifts also hurt my low back. I did them for a year and getting over 300 lbs was causing problems. I went to belt squats as well and they are doing great for me.
Love to do the strict/military press from the floor up. it's the only exercise. I really try to go heavy on tend to use dips, press n pull-ups to warm-up.
I press from the upper chest. Work really well with long arms that long ROM, works allout off mass. Feel it in shoulder, chest, triceps and lats
The real secret is imagining some sort of Saw situation where you have to make the lift or your best friend's life ends
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This fixed my shoulders
I have had better luck thinking of pulling the bar down to my clavicle rather than focusing on pushing my hips forward. My hips still go forward and rebound but for some reason pulling the bar down helps me initiate the movement better.
You're supposed to think about pulling the bar to your clavicle like you already are. The hip drive simply gives you the oomph to stretch open your chest and bring the bar even closer to your clavicle to recruit more muscle mass through involuntary means aka stretch reflex. It's a neurological trick to get more muscle recruitment.
This is great thanks, I'll try this soon. 😊
Thank you
Ha, I knew it was hips! I learned this movement myself after a lot of weird experiments in my first few years. Eventually I even stopped using a belt cause it lessens the spinginess of my torso, makes the movement more rigid than it should be.
Secret to a big ohp , turn it into an incline press👍🏻
Why is bending the knees considered cheating and moving the hips to bounce the bar not cheating? If the goal is training the shoulders/vertical pressing,wouldn't stationary hips keep the stress in the intended area?
If you didn’t have a head, yes.
Perhaps if you had something like a trap bar that wrapped around your head, also yes.
But we are using a bar. And it starts under your chin, so you have to move your chin and head out of the way.
@@handsomegames1433I would agree with you if you limited yourself to leaning back at the beginning of the movement. The issue is turning a static, "strict" press into a dynamic movement. This is even more true for the OHP 2.0 which involves a second lean back after the bar is above the forehead. Strict presses are possible even at very high loads (300+), but they're harder.
Because that's how the rules were written
Using your legs is a bigger variable to control than a hip bounce. If you do push press, you tend to use more leg drive as you get more fatigued. Hip bounce helps you to get through the most mechanically disadvantageous part of the lift and allows more weight to be lifted than with a strict press. Starting Strength method favors the Olympic press variant with novice trainees, but all other press variants can be used later to train for a big press.
Don’t look for reason here. rippedtoe is full of crap and just makes shit up as he goes.
Is that Bre 2.0?
THICC 2.0
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If you have lumbar spine issues, should you avoid this "hip" move?
Probably not. The lumbar spine should remain locked and neutral. Hips forward is just hip overextension used to create an upward drive, and as a consequence, the distance between the glutes and the low back is shortened/they end up closer. So long as you're not using a lumbar bend, you should be fine.
@@thebarbelllifestyle1478 You don't think that move adds more bend in the lower spine and additional pressure on the lower discs?
@@cedwards889 and then those discs get stronger with progress overload on the main compound lifts
@@cedwards889 no
It is essential to engage your abdominals and not introduce spinal extension while bending at the hips.
Is it better to start from the top or start from the bottom?
Depends, if sticking your tongue in her ass is your thing then I’d start with the bottom.
bottom
why won’t Aasgaard produce an in-depth publication on this lift or just create a SS 4th edition?
@@vincentemarshall9696 On the 2.0? It's in the 3rd edition.
Unless you mean the Olympic Press? That's a different style of press altogether.
It always bothered me the bar never starts paused off the chest. I wonder how much difference it makes in amount you can handle. Like an atg squat isn't necessarily as beneficial as it would appear to be vs being just below parallel
There is nothing magical or complete about touching your chest. It's an arbitrary spot that you've assigned importance to. It's not like the squat. You should absolutely use the full rom possible / go as low as possible in a press.
The caveat is that you still need to maintain proper form. The mechanically advantageous bottom position of a press has your elbows in front of the bar. Try it at your desk right now. keep your elbows in front of your fists and press down as far as you can. If you had a bar in your hands, would it be touching your chest? For 99% of people, it would not.
To get from that position to your chest means loosening up and letting your elbows travel backwards. You're better off just keeping stable & pressing from the right spot to start with.
My man starts the video out of breath.
That's what happens when your only measure is weight lifted, without regard one's mass, strength to weight ratio and cardio.
Valsalva,brev
They read this out on the podcast 😅
@@arkatoz that's so funny, going to need to resubscribe to see it. For real though, the video starts and he is already huffing and puffing.
@@patriot2o2 episode #288
I experienced lower back issues on the standing overhead press and last year switched to a 60 degree bench overhead press. Can you comment on the differences? As the bench supports my low back I have greatly increased the weight that I can press pain free.
dead lifts may solve the lower back problem
@@jamesianv Dead lifts also hurt my low back. I did them for a year and getting over 300 lbs was causing problems. I went to belt squats as well and they are doing great for me.
Do you wear a belt when pressing?
@@elobiretv I wear a belt, it helped but did not totally solve the issue. X-ray shows that I have arthritis in my lower back.
You need to squat and deadlift to make your back stronger.
If the press is hurting your lower back it is extremely weak.
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Why not just... press it up?
Bar path
@@lukecoomer9349then tuck your chin/move your head and it won't impede bar path