Weird Film Takes (Oscar Edition)
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what are your hot takes about the oscars?
Barbie wasn’t “snubbed” of anything
all of us strangers and godzilla minus one deserve best picture more than barbie and maestro do, and godzilla minus one should win
If it was 5 films anatomy of a fall would probably take barbies place
I didn't really like "Oppenheimer" -- I found it choppy with scenes cut too short to build emotional tension, and the women characters were so flat and one-dimensional (not talking about their acting, but the writing). The Trinity scene was great, but otherwise I found it flat and boring. Someone said I should watch it with headphones to "get it" and one day I might do that but I find that when I rewatch Nolan movies (the Batman ones, Inception) my opinion doesn't change: I find them boring and cerebral and have a hard time connecting emotionally (the exception being Interstellar).
I KNOW you're gonna disagree with this one, but Killers of the Flower Moon is easily my least favorite of the Best Picture noms for the year. I think Martin Scorsese has become very self-indulgent, largely due to streaming services allowing for more freedom. Killers of the Flower Moon has most of the same issues have with The Irishman but is slightly elevated by a lack of CGI aging and de-aging effects and a great performance by Lily Gladstone that really should be the focus of the film instead of Leo.
Also, as much as I love Danielle Brooks, I think Taraji P. Henson not getting any awards attention for The Color Purple is INSANE!
If someone says America Ferrera gave the best supporting actress performance, it pretty much just means that they only saw a few movies in 2023.
Same for Emily Blunt.
“Her nomination isn’t just for the monologue” is what really confuses me. Not hating on America bc she did good, but the character itself is either just “ordinary woman for audience to relate to” or “OMG this is *obscure Barbie reference*”
@@tinker_belle41Yeah. Probably because the content of the monologue was trendy, not because of the acting
@@szinyk It's because modern audiences have no media literacy or ability to pick up on subtle messaging and satire, so when a movie just dumps it's themes in front of them with a sappy monologue they think it's profound and deep because it's not normal for them to recognise that stuff.
@@kermdeezy5330 Agree. Or to quote the Robot Devil from Futurama, "You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!"
The Iron Claw not getting any love anywhere is a disgrace, Zac Efron deserved so much love
A24 kept it out of film festivals and waited way too long to release it wide, by then Past Lives and Zone were established as their main pushes (and they didn’t even do a great job with the former). It’s hard for A24 to pick so many great movies and mishandle a bunch during award seasons (Uncut Gems, The Farewell, The Florida Project).
I thought it was good with good performances but nothing outstanding that was Oscar worthy. It definitely deserves more praise than Maestro though…
Actually a 10/10 film in my opinion, A24 fucked yo the release schedule, should’ve just pushed it’s release back even further so it would be eligible for 2025 Oscar’s
Will it not count towards next years Oscar’s?
It’s a good film with a lot of heart, but it’s certainly not Oscar worthy on any level. If it is, let’s see if it makes it into next year’s nominations.
Mine is: Bradley Cooper shouldn't be nominated for Best Actor in Maestro, we've seen a million other big name actor plays big historical figure nominees and I didn't see anything he did in the movie that Jessica Chastain did in Eyes of Tammy Faye or that Gary Oldman did in Darkest Hour. I think Andrew Scott should win for AOUS let alone take his place
I'd say this is a cold take, too.
The way this is not even that hot a take😭 the academy really fucked up not nominating AoUS for anything
Wait until you see Cillian Murphy in Oppenheimer...
@moccupancy I've seen it twice, he's amazing but I'd still vote for Scott
And to add to that: if Bradley Cooper had to be nominated in the acting category I would suggest he be nominated for Best Supporting Actor for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (which of course would NEVER happen because not only was his performance a vocal/mocap performance but it’s a Marvel movie so… but one can dream because I genuinely think he was sensational as Rocket in that movie)
If All of Us Strangers were American, it would have 5+ nominations. And it deserves them.
i was SHOCKED when it didn't even get adapted screenplay
same for society of the snow
Nah if it was asian women it would win all awards past lives is example pure overrated 🤮
If it was Asian women if would’ve won all awards because Hollywood loves them Past lives was trash typical Hollywood WMAF couple propaganda 🤮
Okay Across The Spiderverse should have gotten a nom for best Original Score over Indiana Jones. The Oscars don't respect animation enough.
And even though Barbie was really good, I'm not mad it didnt get more nominations, especially since the competetion for Best Actress and Best director is pretty competetive this year. i feel like America ferrara's nomination was only because of her speech in the movie though, tbh
These are the coldest takes imaginable
It’s stupid that she got nominated over a misandrist villian monologue
@@George_Fl0yd How is it misandrist to say that misogyny and insane societal expectations for women exist?
@@legendaccount3247 because gloria acted like theirs only expectations exclusively to them and only them. Implying that men don’t have to suffer through anything, go through anything, that misandry doesn’t exist, that instead of trying to solve the problems themselves they should just act like victims even if they completely deserve the karma that’s put upon them
Indiana Jones getting an Original Score nom is one of the most frustrating nominations for me. Feels like the people in that branch voted for it more for John Williams' name than they did for the actual music in the film.
You think Da'Vine should win for her performance in The Holdovers.
I think Da'Vine should win as an apology from the Academy for not nominating her for her performance as Mama Luna in Puss In Boots: The Last Wish.
We are not the same.
Amen brother! 🙏
She puts “heart” into films, elevating them. Dolemite is My Name on Netflix is a great watch because of Eddie Murphy AND Da’Vine.
@@rhythmoriented Dude, it's a joke. I think she fucking crushed it in Holdovers.
@@forsetha of course!
Just adding to the conversation.
America Ferrera's monologue was grating to me, as a woman and film enthusiast. Felt like a middle aged man explaining things I realized when I was 12 😮💨
I saw a meme on Instagram (not pertaining to Barbie) that was basically your second sentence lol
That's kind of the point though... that the men in the audience don't see these things and yet they're our everyday realities and have been since we were young enough to experience womanhood.
I agree that her performance wasn't best supporting actress nomination worthy, but like the person above said, the monologue being so straightforward was the point. It's intentional.
How many people walked away from Barbie calling it a feminist, man hating film? A piece of propoganda? As if the film wasn't about how patriarchy or matriarchy is bad for everyone involved. The movie was boiled down to it's bare bones in terms of its theme and yet SO MANY people still can't understand the message. That monologue was for those people.
Some of the women and femme people in my life told me the same thing BUT that it was probably still some people's first time hearing it. I can see that perspective that every instance of Feminism 101 is someone's introduction. I can see that at least
I would disagree on the idea that 10 best picture nominees is too many. The way the Oscars are set up only really rewards the same few movies each year, so if the best picture field was more limited it would basically just be another nod for the same five movies that got nominated for every other major award. Yeah it's sad that something like Past Lives definitely won't win, but I think it would be sadder if it wasn't nominated at all. Also I don't think having that many nominees devalues it any more than some of the questionable winners they've chosen in the past few years does!
Well said
Also, upping the nominees to 10 is a marketing decision for the movie industry as a whole. If you want to see the nominees before the Oscars, you have to buy 10 cinema tickets instead of 5. More ticket sales = cinemas are no longer in danger. Lowering the nominees back to 5 would hurt the movie industry
My hot take, Wonka should have a nod for best original song. It has 3 or 4 songs that are easily some of the best of the year.
that is a scalding hot take…
7 is actually a perfect number of nominees imo, not just in Best Picture, but in every category
I'm all for applying everywhere the 5-10 "sliding scale" that Best Picture operated on this past decade. Every nominee that has a sizable passionate voting base gets nominated, no more egregious snubs, and then apply universal preferential vote during final voting so that everyone's rankings influence the winner and the winner will have obtained 50% plus 1.
The kid from anatomy of a fall should win the supporting oscar
LITERALLY
Tbh my abiding memory of America Ferrera's performance wasn't the monologue but her incredibly earnest delivery of "Oh you *are* Allan, that's greeeeat", which isn't worth a nomination but was still a lot of fun to me personally
My hot take: The Iron Claw was severely overlooked (I know A24 didn't campaign for it which is criminal) and its better than at least half of the Best Picture noms and Zac absolutely deserved an actor nom as well if nothing else
If it’s that good, wouldn’t it make it into next year’s nominations?
@@peteradaniel What? No. It doesn't qualify for next year's nominations.
Don't really think that is a hot take
This is not even close to a hot take
The fact there are 15 variations of this take in the comment section with a bunch of likes really proves how CRAZY of a take this is /s
My Hot Take: Maestro shouldn’t have got Best Sound nomination. Ferrari should. I saw the movie in theaters and the sound of the cars and the crash were astonishing and unique.
Nah Maestro sound nomination was well deserved, but I understand your point if you haven't seen it in theaters
Da’Vine was incredible, and I think she deserves to win, but I’m upset there’s been little to no conversation about Danielle Brooks. Her performance is astounding. Her ability to act in emotional scenes is unmatched, she’s so realistic.
All of Us Strangers should have gotten so many nominations including best picture
A gay foreign film winning an Oscar ? We can only dream
@@superethangaming. if it was asian women it would’ve won lol Hollywood fethish for asian women is 🤮
Dude. I paused this video to complain to my partner about no Asteroid City nominations, unpaused, and there it was. Hahaha I’m not crying you’re crying 🙃
I hate to say this cause Wes Anderson is one of my favourite director but after seeing 'The French Dispatch' and 'Asteroid City', I am starting to understand why some people say he is "style over substance" director.
@@everythingisawesome2903 As far as Asteroid City goes I get how it isn’t for everyone, but as a writer it touched me deeply. It’s become a comfort watch. The relationships, the grief, the process of making art constantly wondering “Am I doing this right?” Every time Augie burns his hand on the griddle I flinch. Because I get so lost in the story that even three layers deep in meta-text I forget Augie isn’t a real person.
It’s not really a movie for everyone but in so many ways I feel like it was made just for me. And I kind of expected the people at the Oscars to feel like that too.
@@everythingisawesome2903 The reason this critique of Wes is so infuriating to me is because Asteroid City felt like the most personal and vulnerable film he’s ever made. It’s almost like he’s gotten so good at the visual aesthetic he wants to execute that people use that achievement to diminish all the work put into the script.
I saw How to Blow Up a Pipeline last year and keep completely forgetting about it lol. Good movie though.
Also would like to add Teyana Taylor in A Thousand and One as another lead female performance that I would probably give Benning's slot to before Margot Robbie.
Coming home from the emergency room to see myself featured in a Karst video is outrageous
I say 7 Slots is a good balance. And I like the number 7
American Fiction’s actually now frontrunner to win adapted screenplay since it won the BAFTA. No it’s probably not the best of the bunch but being an indie dramedy focusing on writers and the entertainment industry is right up the academy’s alley and Oppenheimer in no way needs to win screenplay to be massive.
As for Asteroid City, the academy’s always had a checkered past with Wes Anderson movies that aren’t over and out popular, plus it was released way back in the summer and people even then seemed to criticize it for being too Wes so the studio didn’t bother much campaigning it and it snowballed so it couldn’t compete with bigger movies even in below the line categories. But Wes could very well win his first Oscar for Henry Sugar so that’s something.
Idk I still think Gerwig and Baumbach will win for Barbie, the BAFTAs don’t normally overlap with the Oscars that much
@@dollarsaurus01 not always but the writers guild awards were pushed back to April so the BAFTAs will likely have the biggest influence on voters. Barbie hasn’t really won any major awards and doesn’t seem like a major ATL competitor anymore. AF winning the BAFTA was especially surprising since it wasn’t nominated for anything else, has “American” in the title and they aren’t super minority-friendly so pulling it off shows even harder to please voters quite like it, Barbie taking the Oscar would be a huge surprise at this point.
As someone who watched Asteroid City pretty recently, I can understand why it wasn't nominated for Best Picture or all the other categories but no production design nom is pretty criminal
BAFTA is the worst predictor of Oscar wins. Their taste is very different from the Academy voters.
@@goat_sama8239I’m curious, which of the nominees you’d have removed in favor of it?
Andrew Scott should've gotten a nomination for his performance.
Leo was amazing in KOTFM -- he's so famous and recognizable but while I was watching it, he literally transformed into another person. He fully embodied that role. And this isn't a bias -- as a person he gives me the ick, but what a great performance.
Shocking how a legendary actor like him didn't manage to get a nom in one of the biggest films of the year giving, arguably, his best performance ever.
@@bobbyfirmino7476 yet past lives gets nominated because Hollywood love asian woman🤮
10 slots is a lot but it makes it way more accessible for foreign films to get nominated for best picture which I think is a very good thing
TMNT not getting into animated is insane
Nah that movie was trash
I feel bad, but... I didn't like the animation. I know it must've been a nightmare to animate, and I applaud them sticking to a vision, but that movie was ugly to look at.
I feel so alone in thinking this.
Thanks for making let’s argue but for movies, please keep this up
I sort of agree about The Holdovers being overhyped, but at the same time I don't. I personally wouldn't consider it to be one of my favorite movies of the year, but also I don't think I have a single negative thing to say about it, so why shouldn't it be nominated?
More animated movies should be nominated for best screenplay and best picture
i don't get why no one is talking about charles melton in may december. it's not an easy role, it's not an easy script, but he brings an incredibly convincing emotionality to it. he should have been nominated for the scene on the rooftop alone.
Nicolas Cage was the biggest snub for Dream Scenario. Better performance than the 5 finalists
I agree, 7 would be the right amount. Also, add stunts as a category already!
I love Sterling so much, but I don’t think that this is necessarily one of his Oscar-worthy performances, compared to the stacked amount of incredible supporting actor performances this year
I agree but at the same time, his performance cuts so much deeper than ryan gosling or ruffalo.
@@norahfarber7001 those are such unique performances for Ruffalo & Gosling, though, and I like that they challenged themselves. Sterling was incredible and grounded, but didn’t seem to be pushing himself too much
Yeah, it was a good performance and I'm glad he got the nom, but it was not as impressive or as impactful to me as pretty much every other performance that is being recognized in that category.
@@norahfarber7001having not seen American Fiction, I feel inclined to agree because Gosling's nomination actually made me go "...really?"
karsteeeen whaaaat? best picture nominations should go to the best pictures not to the biggest. That's what the money is for, money is it's own reward and recognition for creating something that resonates. As you say later in the video, smaller movies like How To Blow Up a Pipeline lost their shot at a nomination bc Barbie had to take a spot
thing is if your movie isn't remembered and seen then no one is gonna vote for you. small movies lose their shots because no one remembers them. thats kinda how the oscar works and it's fair, because no one watches every movie released every year, so of course some of them are gonna be forgotten if you don't make people talk about it. thats why people talk so much about oscar campaigns and stuff
I don't think Karsten was saying that as personal stance, but rather as observation as to how the academy is going to work. "The academy will nominate decent movies with a ton of impact" over "The academy ought to nominate decent movies with a ton of impact." You really can't criticize the academy for doing what it's obviously going to do. It's made up of pretty much average people who pay attention to basic entertainment news and are subject to the same winds of hype and marketing as everyone else. Neon flubbed the release of Pipeline and then didn't spend any money on an FYC campaign. How would the average voter even have heard of it?
@@thehousecat93 what you are saying is so sad, man :( these are supposed to be people working in the industry recognizing others for their achievements in the craft. But it feels true that many winners have been the result of haphazard voting. I try to take the oscars nominees as a pretty general summary of great things that happened in the past year and then totally disregard the final results. Thanks for reaching out with your perspective
"Best" and "biggest" aren't mutually exclusive. In the case of Barbie, there was so much craft and care put into the production that you don't get to see in many blockbusters. Hell, we complain all the time about superhero movies looking like garbage and having terrible dialogue and plots, so it actually makes sense to reward a crowd-pleaser like Top Gun 2 or Black Panther when they put the effort in!
I think if anything this year emphasises why we need 10 best picture nominations, there are many films that you could absolutely consider snubbed for a nomination and the vast majority of those already nominated absolutely deserve their place. 2019 is another good example of this, 7 would be good for some years, but in years like this one there would be an overwhelming amount of snub discourse which I think takes away attention from the actual nominees.
All of us Strangers getting NOTHING is absurd (At this point it’s not even that hot of a take. Lots of people love All of Us Strangers). In my opinion (and plenty other’s), it should’ve been in at least 5 categories and winning for best Actor. It should’ve also been in the editing and cinematography conversation because it is such a dazzling film. The “death of a party” sequence would’ve been more of enough evidence to secure both of those.
Regardless of what some may think of the ending (I know some people think it’s corny or “too sad”), you can’t really deny the outstanding direction, acting, and visuals.
My Prediction for Best Animated Feature at the Oscars:
It will be a three way tie between Spider-Man:Across the Spiderverse, The Boy and the Heron, and Nimona.
Zone of Interest BETTER win something
da’vine joy randolph deserves all the recognition she’s been getting for the holdovers, i loved paul giamatti and dominic sessa in the movie but without her it wouldn’t be nearly as good as it is
Thank you karsten runquist for humiliating me about my america ferrera take 🙏 in karsten we trust
i like this and i hope u do more of these in the future!
Past lives and Society of the Snow should have gotten so many more nominations and Across the SpiderVerse should’ve gotten a best picture nod. Oh and Asteroid city should’ve gotten at least a production design nod while something from wonka should’ve won original song
America Ferrera getting nominated for the speech that grinds Barbie to to halt is the thing that confuses me. 😂
I don’t think ten is too many best picture nominations if the academy was giving nominations to animated movies. Especially when it feels like Maestro was just there to fill out the roster, while Boy and the Heron or Across the Spider-Verse were relegated to just animated feature
If y'all haven't listened to Jerskin Fendrix's solo electropop album 'Winterreisse" you GOTTA give it a shot. Unbelievably good; so crazy to see him now Oscar-nominated, just a few years back he was singing about busting nuts and needing to play the piano for girls. Lanthimos said he was listening to this record and pictured him for the PT score.
The best argument against "Oppenheimer"'s score is that there's some cliché soft piano BS that could fit in any movie. "Poor Things" is perfect and original top-to-bottom.
A24 should've pushed Iron Claw more, Zac Efron gave one of the best performances of the year and the storytelling was so incredible
I teared up when he was crying on the grass and says, “i used to be a brother too.” I had low expectations but I really liked it!
They were busy pushing asian woman🤮 Hollywood is threatened by asian men
Although I loved Ryan Gosling in Barbie I think he should have been swapped out for Charles Melton
I would've nominated the Iron Claw over Maestro in Best Picture.
Asteroid City didn't get nominated for production design is actually crazy and I don't even like the movie.
hot take is that american fiction felt like an entirely unfinished rough cut and i left the theatre absolutely flabbergasted at how it got a best picture nom. like
wow, so weird, not that we've seen them in every social media site. so unique
There’s probably an alternate universe out there where the oscars are fully unhinged and Rotting in the Sun won Best Picture. Sadly I don’t live in it.
I think valuing nominations more than the win should be a thing. so having more noms is ok
ASTEROID CITY MENTIONED GOOD MORNING RESIDENTS 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
counterpoint to the oscar’s lowering the number of best picture slots: the zone of interest.
No way I also just had knee surgery this week, best of luck with your recovery!
Hey karsten, are you making another roasting letterboxd favourites video? I really enjoy those 🤙
the oppenheimer score is overdramatic, just like the whole movie
7 or 8 slots for best picture is ideal. It is important to note, though, that the way the voting works, there still needs to be a voting threshold met before more films can be added beyond a 5th. The fact that all ten slots have been full recently just means that, according to the academy, there have just been that many films worthy of it.
John Wick Chapter 4 not getting any technical award nominations. Also think Across the Spider-Verse was better than "just" getting a Best Animated Feature nom.
10 is excessive? I think it’s not enough 😤.
Maestro wasn't that bad, I'm just still mad that Tar didn't win ANYTHING so I'll keep kicking Bradley Cooper in the shins until someone gives Tar her award.
American Fiction is definitely not a Best Picture, but Triangle of Sadness was totally up there for me.
I would say that Maestro getting nominated is a good argument for reducing the best picture’s list to 5
I'm surprised no one has talked about Oppenheimer being snubbed not just for Best VFX, but from the shortlist. This is the film that used a real explosive, and yet they decided to shortlist The Marvels
Probably had to do with Nolan’s whole no CGI brag. And no CGI is not the only way to do VFX in a movie seeing as the category existed before CGI was created but the VFX branch could consist largely of people who work with CGI and see it as the standard in the business while the visual flare of the trinity scene would be more attributed to Nolan the director and Hoyte the cinematographer.
I’m amazed the a foreign film in a foreign language Got nominated for best cinematography without being nominated for best film. How often does that happen?
Let’s do it!
charles melton should have been nominated AND won best supporting actor... change my mind
My hot take is that Godzilla should have been nominated for best adapted screenplay (i think its adopted since its an existing ip) and best picture. The story is an emotional masterpiece and along with the killer ost it should have been in best picture instead of Maestro
My hot take is that the iron claw getting no nominations is completely warranted. It was a completely average film in my opinion. The only part of that I think was award worthy was Harris Dickinson and even he wasn’t in the movie that much
I’ve had a couple drinks tonight so I read the thumbnail as “Abel Ferrara should be nominated for best actress”
You should get addicted to air duster. It would add a more dynamic theme through out your videos
8 best picture nominations would be perfect
Justice for grathie atherton-yoo!!
Justice for Asteroid City!!!!!!!
society of the snow was the most snubbed film this year
Honestly, if the BP category was only 5 this year, I realistically think it would be Oppenheimer, Poor Things, the Holdovers, Killers of the Flower Moon and **Anatomy of a Fall**. My reasoning being how the film did well critically mixed with the Oscar Nominations for Directing, Original Screenplay, Lead Actress, and Editing.
Wholeheartedly believe that I knew squarespace before everyone bcos of you
Best Picture should be renamed to best achievement in filmmaking, that way the brilliance of certain films becomes more highlighted and it would reframe conversations around the best picture nominees instead of hearing every year “it was average why was it nominated” we can look deeper, easier and go “look at these technical/creative aspects that need to be respected”
The Cailee Spaeny love is appreciated
OH ffs, you just made me realize I can't watch "How to Blow Up a Pipeline" anymore.
Hot takes-
Whilst it was still a great performance, I’d give any of the other best supporting actor nominees the Oscar before RDJ.
Paul Giamatti over Cillian Murphy for the Oscar.
Sandra Hüller for best actress.
The Holdovers for best picture (last choice very biased as it was far and away my favourite film of the year.)
Its such a crime that you haven't mentioned anything about Anatomy of Fall . The way i hope if by some miracle it wins all the major awards like the way Parasite did and surprise everyone 😭!!
hot takes
priscilla should at least get actress, makeup/hair, costume, and production design
greta lee for best actress
celine song best director
may december should have got more nominations than one
Not necessarily a "take", but I'n really surprised that Disney didnt push for 'Once Upon a Studio' for Best Animated Short. It seems like it would have been such an obvious choice to win had it been nominated
3:11 hey 7 is the best and lucky there is
American Fiction was so great in the first half and then just fumbled its dryness
My only hot take is that I really wish Paul Giamatti won over Cillian Murphy. Not that Cillian was bad, far from it, but I think this is Giamatti's best role to date. Between the snarky lines, vulnerability, being able to be both insufferable and endearing, there is a lot of layers to his character. For a lack of a better term he HOLDS the movie together.
I think 8 slots for best picture would work; I like evens
Just because a film is the "Biggest" of the year does not mean it is entitled to a best picture nom!!
not surprised that flamin hot got a nom’ for score
it’s diane fucking warren. she could write a song for sharknado and still get a nomination
My hot film take: Alden Ehrenreich was the best actor in Oppenheimer. He absolutely killed his scenes
He was in it for all of five minutes?
@@maxwellerickson7066 yeah i know - but he killed those five minutes
Get better soon!
I don't think it's actually that hot of a take outside of the academy but animated films never getting best picture noms is rediculous.
Well my hot take is that the 5 supporting actress are good (great even) but are not oscar level and it makes clear that the academy should watch more international movies.
Hot take: Emily Blunt did not deserve that nomination
cold take but iron claw should at least have gotten one (1) nomination in SOMETHING
Didn’t you say you weren’t in love with the Oppenheimer score in your review??
Barbie would not make the cut even if there were 7 Best Picture nominees. Oppenheimer, KOTFM, Poor Things and The Holdovers are obviously above Barbie, but also Anatomy of a Fall (got director nom and is going to win Original Screenplay), The Zone of Interest (director nom and gonna win International Picture) and American Fiction (Adapted Screenplay frontrunner IMO). Past Lives is also a much better film and deserves a spot over Barbie.
Barbie was a crowd-pleaser, and rightly won the Box Office Achievement Award at the Golden Globes, which recognizes the popular film of the year. But as for craft, there were plenty of films above Barbie.