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P08 (WE) - So disappointing.
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2021
- Got myself an early Christmas present and it was disappointing.
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Seems like more problems with this replica are about to come. Read the comments if you're thinking about getting it too.
Thx for Information, Nobody is safe from issues with new articles , also true experiences that I made
I'm going to look in to the KWC model now, but they only do the 4" barrel version, so no luck for the naval or artillery fans. WE do seem hit or miss with quality, they seem to do some of the best & worst pistol designs out there.
Josef: * throws away manual *
Also Josef: "I have no idea how to access the hop up"
LOL
RFM, read the fucking manual
So sad seeing him exited at first and dissapointed in the end.😭😭
yeah and the fact that it was around 300 DOLLARS
Me basically with everything i touch lol
@@hardpointidentified everything?
the bb fly's out of the barrel because u are cocking the slide twice. Before you put the mag in otherwise it won't get in the gun (same with mag release). I have the 8 inch version and it works really fine :).
nope. The same thing happens when I shoot continuously so it's not double feed. I checked that.
@@JosefMucha100 Wrong.
O cool you have a artillery luger (the 8 inch version is called a artillery luger for those who don't know)
@@haggerhag8251 wrong
@@haggerhag8251 How do you know? If I had to guess, he probably plays more airsoft than you.
*Throws away instructions manual* funny
"I have no idea how to access the hop up"
Funnier
Oh my god...I had the biggest lough flash in my life when the bbs kept dropping out of the gun😂😂
Like the Tanaka Luger series, you have to cock it prior to removing or inserting magazines. if you force them in or out without making sure the pistol is cocked you can damage it.
I have the same pistol. After firing about 200 shots it started to break down. The screw that holds the barrel got loose which caused it to fly out of the front. By worning out some of the inner parts the cocking has to be done slowly, otherwise the trigger cannot be pulled. Also sometimes the gun switches to full auto until the mag is empty. Yeah and all of my mags are heavily leaking.
It’s actually not just the magazine but also the hammer. There is a catch spring which is supposed to hold the hammer back, but after 100 rounds or so it will fail causing the gun to shoot in full auto. You need to either replace the spring or shave down the catch. Either way it’s a big bother.
Actually you're fortunate, your actually shoots. Mine can't shot more than once before failing.
Mine jammed so badly the side plate won’t remove anymore and I had to use a hammer to close the toggle lock
@@venomusbite3461 why not send it back, that’s what I do if a gun turns out a complete lemon and get a full refund.
The solution is press the square to reset the trigger group conection to inicial pose
@@airsoft2ndchance501 in my case is a nozzle / valve problem
Zero problem with mine after 300 shots. I have the artillerie one. Just moded it with aeg barrel + half modify rubber just for the entry of the bb and S-hop with sugru. It shoot precisely 0.33gr bb at 50m
How exactly did you do that?
The lack of a hop-up is really quite messed up, however I found a workaround:
Shove a piece of a shaped ereaser underneath the "bucking" in the chamber, so that it's jammed between the bucking and chamber, creating a hop up function. Adjust the inverted hop function on the P08 so that it holds the BB's in place (took a few tries and corrections before I got it just right). Now you got a fixed hop. Find the BB weight that gives the best trajectory., my P08 Navy lobs .25's pretty nicely. Would confidently shoot at player sized targets 30 meters away. The mod takes 10 minutes, can be done with stuff you keep around the house and is real easy to do. Don't know if this is a widely known fix, would actually be kinda suprised if it wasn't.
U wanna do a tutorial on it? :D
Happy to see you uploading on this channel bro
yah, it's a really, really old airsoft design and (unlike more popular models) they never bothered updating it. Great as a novelty / collector's item, but not skirmish-worthy at all.
Magazines are *VERY* prone to leaking, as any mag that uses pins to hook the magazine base to the body. It also develops a very frustrating failure to fire in just some hundred rounds of wear down. That can be addressed by supplementing the connector bar, but it's an issue that simply shouldn't be there
seems like I will have more work to do soon :s
Mag leaks are really easy to fix and it's surprisingly accurate up to 10 meters after which the bb drops far enough that the hand holding the barrel obscures the target. Completely.
Bought this (the black one) for a friend who is into re- enactment and as far as I've heard the only time he's had anything bad to say about it is when they've tried to use it for shooting at opposing players at more than point blank.
It looks beautiful, the action is snappy and loud like one would want but the hop is lacking.. My rating is 4/5 if you want to make some noise while looking good in the process or 2/5 if you want to actually use it in a skirmish.
Valve:congrats you unlocked the australium lugermorph
Josef: i can't wait
also Joseph: i waited 3 days
Eh he didn't even found out the "full auto till empty" issue xd
Damn i've been thinking of running a Kar98 and this but seems like i won't be.... Maybe you could take a look at some other obscure WE pistols? Like the Makarov, P38 and P99 maybe
Vďaka za review. Konečne nejaký dobrý + o zbrani ktorú som chcel. A tvoj pohľad do duše kamery (napr. 5:04) je na nezaplatenie.
I have a real luger, not selling.
This is the only we product I've had problems with mostly the sear not catching and becoming a 1 mag automatic burst (which with the 50 shot snail magazine is fun and annoying in equal amounts) have managed to fix it by doubling up a stronger spring inside the original sear spring. Another issue is the latch plate latch does like to cone lose but that got fixed by a longer spring to push the pin further out to grip better. My tiny we colt cub .25acp replica we ct25 works perfectly all the time and kicks much more than you would think for such a tiny thing. My ancient we usmc m9 even works with some of the rear of the slide missing after a fall a few years ago, and I still use it and it shows no difference in performance before and after. The WE pm9 makarov that my brother uses is just as tough and reliable as ever and that's got to be 6 year old now.
Edit... the loading of a magazine by charging the toggle first then droping it is how the real p08 is it has to charged first due to how a toggle log system works if I remembered that rightly
Never had an issue with mine tbh, seems pretty good had it a few years now 2
I watched another video on this exact gun and you can adjust the hopup easily so there is that.
it's very useful, thanks
The KWC P08 / KCB-41 CO2 GBB at least has a HopUp but it´s fixed.
That WE P09 Gold is more for Showing.
About Hop-up It is actually hop-up but inverted(idk how to call it). They used same system on Browning Hi-Power. Screw pushes on rubber that create tension on BB and as It flyes thru rubber BB gets rotation from upper side of rubber. I managed to Hop 0.20 on my friends Browning. With more pressure It jamms. So no-hop or 0.20 hop or jammed. Not good system at all. :)
This system makes the bbs rotate in the opposite direction of a traditional hop up which creates a downward force on the bbs. The more you screw it, the faster the bbs will hit the ground
I owned one. I admit that it is very beautiful, but it has some trouble like unintended full auto when you field strip it too often, I don't know what caused it though. I suppose it might be from the sear within the plate above the trigger, since it is very weak In some cases, it even fires on its own when slide (more precisely, toggle) lock in position and consume all ammo away
Yes I would love a up to date german luger ready right out of the box. Just like the elite force 1911 tac.
I really hope someone make an after market hop up chamber that can takes normal buckings and normal barrel for this p08
I hope someone makes an p08 which works and isn't scam (:
10 year+ old design and copy of even older tanaka one so nah dont think so sadly...
go to 8 minutes and six seconds Josef is horrified at the consistency of the gun.
I'd just return it. Mine shot full auto only after some time.
The WE Luger is well known to be the laughing stock within the ww2 airsoft community, and that says something given how finicky almost all ww2 rifs are. Even without the hop up problems, the gun is made out of very pliable metal, and thus critical components get worn down quickly to the point the weapon stops operating properly and becomes unsafe. In fact WE even sell replacement parts, as they are well aware of this fact. To add insult to injury, as others have stated the mags also degrade quite quickly to the point where leaks become common place if not part and parcel in owning this rif. A much better airsoft luger is made by KWC, which uses Co2 cartridges, and is known to be very reliable. Infact I reckon Ive put well over 100 mags through mine, and it still runs great. The only problem is you have a fixed hop, and the outline of the weapon is not 100% authentic, as the grip is widened to accomodate the co2 cartridges housed on the magazines. Another reason some people still buy the WE Luger is the fact it can accept 50 round trommel mags, and comes in the artillery luger configuration with the longer barrel.
I’m so confused with the airsoft stuff.
Why do some companies make spot in replicas and other ones don’t?
Why cheap out?
I got told WE are a good manufacturer?
@@kylethedalek R&D takes time and money, and the WE luger is a very old design which itself was a copy of the Tanaka one. There is so little competition out there when it comes to ww2 airsoft, and as I said the bar for most enthusiasts is so low anyway, they probably can't justify the investment it would take to retool the factory & fix the issues, or probably the price hike this would mean for the rif itself. At the end of the day, 80% of people that buy this will use it as a paper weight, and maybe shoot it in their garden once or twice, there aren't that many people willing to skirmish in ww2 gear.
This is why i switched into getting the kwa luger
They also have a habit of running away in full auto. Wish i knew all of this before i bought one a couple years back :t
I got it 5ish years ago, trigger sear worn out very fast and became auto only and evantually not fire, gas leak everywhere too
mine does the same its disapointing because such a nice gun but has this problem so now it only good for show peice.
Should we call it counter hop-up or hop-down?
good old WE. Remember getting a Hi-capa 3.8 some years back. Fell apart completely before I could even use it in a game...
Now just a question : WHY THE GOLD VERSION IT’S RUINED AHHHH
It’s a piece all right!
Convert it to fire full thrust bb's! 😁
Everytime I think WE can't get any worse they prove to me that for sure, they can.
Congrats WE, you brought us back in time for about 15 years or so.
that gun is from 20 years ago, so...
@@facundocorradini little we ct25 is pretty reliable
my disassembly pin some how turns itself when firing and then the plate falls off 😐
I had several of the older models, and after a few months they would always end up leaking horribly and something in the internals would wear so bad that after the first trigger pull they go full auto (even without holding the trigger down) I had 4, and all 4 didn't last 2 months😡
Hi, and thanks for the video. Quite impressive. I like Lugers, this country had them from D.W.M.,and Mauser, if I remember well. I want to have replica of these, and I got other WE models, and I got no problems, so far. But here, I hear lots of complaints 😢. And we, do not have Japanese replicas, except Tokyo Marui, and maybe KSC😢😢...
No, the hop up does not work. I made a custom fixed hop up by inserting some tape between the rubber and inner barrel. My artillery Luger now shoots .28 at 30 meters. Would I take to a match? No, WE Luger is display replica that actually works, nothing more. Fun backyard plinking though.
Please, no matter what people say, the Luger is not a nazi gun
Nice! But nothing beats the original golden P 08 Luger, previous owned by SS-Obersturmbannführer Rudolf "Rudi" Winkler.
The mag is so disappointing I bought the longest version of the gun and after some months I ordered some gas for the gun and I waited like fkn 2 weeks for the propane to arrive and the mag has more leaks than I have hairs on my head literal bs now I have to order a drum mag as far as I know they don't leak
Cool Review. Some other ww2 softair reviews would be sick
Übrigens sprichst du auch ziemlich gut Deutsch
my we luger worked just fine but hade some mag leak but
Cool looking replica, but it is what it is... Any experience with the kjw kco2? Whats your opinion?
I personally don't own one but I know it's popular and 2 of my colleagues purchased it. Should be good.
I got the umarex 👌🏻 running fine
I had one briefly for two days, and it was dire.
On the one hand, it's really a scam, it's too expensive and the shutter stop doesn't work properly after moving it a few times (well that was the case for me) so one from kwc or umarex is much more worthwhile
If anyone has experience, I am about to buy a airsoft Luger, so what should I buy, a green gas one or a CO2 one?
The .177 airgun models suck too. The bbs on the .177 didnt roll out but the internals are ass. I owned 2 of those and they broke the same way.
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i hear the Umarex version is good. But im only just checking this stuff out the last few days
Mate, not only can we see the disappointment, We can literally feel it from off the screen.
Tho I would say rush some shots through it perhaps the bucking will break in? Otherwise, you will have to find some mod to fix the hop issue. I am pretty sure you can fix that ;)
From the comments it seems like if I do that, the whole pistol will break before the bucking breaks in :D
I'll see what I can do with it.
@@JosefMucha100 HAHAHA
Where get it, it still seems like a fun stress toy
People complaining abt a hop up forget this is for either collectors or ppl who just want a pretty gun to shoot cans with.
Josef love the content keep it up :D do you reply? love from slovakia
It's the break of dawn, July 16th, 1946. everything's gone to shit, the Nazi war machine is advancing at an astonishing rate. We can't catch up. Our tactics are failing, outclassed & outgunned. No one knows why. People are getting desperate. Not me, I'm here to see an old friend and settle an old score, turn this thing around.
We Glock? I heard they’re pretty good…
First gun i got was a we hi power. Worst thing ever
A bit disappointing. This on my list to get at some point. It was going to be a display piece, so not too bad. Maybe it'll work in Very Close Quarters Battles.
I wouldn't support scam like this :/ Its clearly very poor produced and shouldn't be supported imo
@ yep, I doubt I'll get one now. KWC do one, but I have no idea to the quality there either. It is quite a shame, as most WE pistols are quite good, case in point of the Desert Eagle Josef has there at the end.
@@foznoth The KWC is extremely reliable, both in terms of endurance of the actual pistol, as well as performance owning to the fact it uses CO2 cartridges. However, it has a fixed hop, and is not 100% authentic, as they've made the grip a bid wider to accomodate the CO2 cartridges housed on the magazines.
@@imvisier9925 thank you. I'll have see if I can get my hands on one to try out. Being a little off from original isn't too bad, it does look the part from a few pictures.
Problem: tosses paperwork.
It’s probably the supplier’s fault, usually their fault anyways
I prefer a Kwa Luger I have several we tech Lugers and they are all lemons
Try Mauser C96 next time.
im sorry to say that but my manual secondary is more precise than that(my secondary is modified tokio marui 1911A1, and it shoots like 30 meters quite good)
You have a video showing that the thing has a downward hop up and you still pretend you have 30m range.
Can you pls repeat "GESICHERT?!" :P
Oh dear
if u buy that ur not abt if it works or not
German with a german gun very cuwel
Luger?
The p38 is better
I have the same pistol.
At first, no problem, everything is fine, but after a while, the gun suddenly goes full auto for no reason, but I fixed it. However, just after I fixed the full auto issue, the slide catch suddenly can't work properly(and it's quite often), I still don't know why and how to fixed that.
Now I dont shoot this P08, I have it as a collection, and for good looking.
In conclusion, I think all the issues on this P08 are normal for a WE product.
5:00 that look on your face just had me dieing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
zlatý KWC p08
hi
:)))) I worked with that type of replica and is a totally trash :)) I prefered to buy the replica from the custemer and tell him I can't repear it and after that I trowed the replica to the trash(where it's they place)
RTFM!
just do not buy WE .... EVER !!! you'll be happier :)
Solution buy a ssp1
🤣🤣🤣
The bbs are falling out because you are cocking it twice, all you need to do is load the mag and not cock it, that’s how mine works anyways
that makes no sense
WE in Asia is famous. Because of bad QC and poor metal... don't waste the money in WE
I'm not going to lie, I gave this video a dislike. You seemed very hesitant to say anything bad about this nightmare. You showed images on screen but didn't actually say much in that regard. If a weapon is not working this terribly out of the box it seems a bit shady to not express your opinion clearly in your own words.
I mean some things don't really need to be said when they are blatant obvious just from watching.
no problem, I don't mind the dislike.
This video was made just like I was discovering problems, i.e. it's chronological. I found out about the websites as I was editing it, not before. That's why I don't talk about how companies scam you by saying adjustable hop.
@@JosefMucha100 this does have adjustable hop up like many have told you.
do a review on WE Raptor gbbr
The mine is missfunctioning too, after hours making inspection i found that the problem is the square in the side (the ona that make as trigger group) my recommendation: reeplace tha piece
had a simmilar problem with a mini Uzi from KWC i think...(or KJW?) i always confuse them...
but...
they actually managed somehow to mount the hopup flipped...upside down...
i sent back the first "gun" because it also had a crack on stock....and guess what?.. They sent another new one in replacement and....same fail with hopup...
i fixed it myself...
looks like this WE thing is worse...doesn't even have the cut in barrel for hopup...so it's not just wrongly mounted...
i'm glad that i don't buy expensive things just for the looks...
this misery for over 200 eur?!?!?
just 2 words ... :
NO THANKS!
yup, I feel the same. Thinking about returning it but given the fact that I do youtube - it's a good eyecatcher so I might keep it. If it wasn't for youtube, the gun would be long gone by now.
I've never had or seen anything by WE that has impressed me
The WE desert eagle has been pretty good so far :)
their MP5s are amazing
@@facundocorradini the little tiny we ct25 is a pretty solid gun
G36, Deagles, MP5s are good, maybe SCAR after steel mods. My GHK M4 is a freaking tragedy. But, It's just GBB, they're like that I guess.
I am a M4A3 Airsoft GBBP Devote, but early this year I bought my first WE Tech Hi-capa 5.1 T-Rex Dinosaur series ( funny as I am Paleotologist) and I loved it, NO PROBLEMS in 11 months, awesome trigger, weight, etc. Since I have also bought the 4.8 Allosaurus and the 3.8 "Baby Hi-capa" Velociraptor model, all as spectacular as my first. WE Tech is using Aluminum on these instead of Pot Metal and the slides are CNC finished. Would love to see you do a review and an upgrade if you feel parts should be upgraded. Oh, my first T-Rex has the Mapleleaf upgrade from the factory.