Flats reacts to Overwatch 2 Tiktok Advice from Gold Players

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  • @johnpaulcross424
    @johnpaulcross424 Год назад +1222

    Love how smug Ryan sounded about his advice when Flats proceeded to systematically demolish every point he made

    • @alurfest5441
      @alurfest5441 Год назад +7

      @@frenchspam785 I had a stroke reading this

    • @eyesofdeath01
      @eyesofdeath01 Год назад +7

      what points? bad player giving even worse advice doesn’t make any points

    • @killerqueendopamine
      @killerqueendopamine Год назад +1

      It was so satisfying

    • @defaultdan7923
      @defaultdan7923 Год назад

      the only thing i agree with is that unironically i do believe this game is pretty hard to learn. bringing up a harder game to learn isn't really a point.

  • @VollderFred
    @VollderFred Год назад +895

    I think the problem with Mercy is that her boosted damage value isn't shown on the stats screen for other players. That screen is what Tiktok players care for the most. They look at the stats and think: "Oh, she only healed and did nothing else", completely ignoring damage boost and revives.

    • @dazey856
      @dazey856 Год назад +79

      I wish they changed dmg mitigated to a different stat for supports that can’t mitigate and same for dps who can’t

    • @miseriia
      @miseriia Год назад +36

      Wish it showed that and how many players saved...

    • @mattiOTX
      @mattiOTX Год назад +24

      That was what made having a mercy in gold when climbing so painful. No matter how nice you ask for a damage boost mercy players freak the fuck out and shart screaming about their healing and how you should be able to kill without a pocket... Even though you killed 3 before you were killed. It got better in plat.

    • @Myballsyrur66
      @Myballsyrur66 Год назад +5

      I think the problem with mercy is that you can hold blue beam on a Smurfing sourjurn and climb to top 500 without using any brain power whatsoever

    • @dazey856
      @dazey856 Год назад +38

      @@Myballsyrur66 true but no you also need good movement otherwise in higher elo you will just get farmed

  • @CalIunn
    @CalIunn Год назад +831

    As a gold do not listen to us
    Edit: man's now in plat, although got a Moira player in my lobby so us plats are pretty brain-dead too

    • @anarchypanty3412
      @anarchypanty3412 Год назад +51

      As a bronze also dont listent to us

    • @artandem9637
      @artandem9637 Год назад +123

      As a silver, listen to us

    • @Alucard6506
      @Alucard6506 Год назад +70

      As somebody who isnt playing ranked and having fun so listen to me

    • @TheToppestOfNeps
      @TheToppestOfNeps Год назад +21

      @@countessofcompost1574 people may listen to you now

    • @SuperScopeRawks
      @SuperScopeRawks Год назад +10

      @@countessofcompost1574 what do I do im stuck in gold

  • @javajuice4206
    @javajuice4206 Год назад +635

    "you can mechanically out muscle yourself to diamond easy" my self esteem is shattered lmao

    • @antiprime4665
      @antiprime4665 Год назад +39

      It is true tho

    • @bl8ze73
      @bl8ze73 Год назад +25

      @@antiprime4665 I managed to somehow hit diamond 5 as tank and now I'm struggling in games because I don't have the gamesense/knowledge so i'm just stuck now.

    • @antiprime4665
      @antiprime4665 Год назад +3

      @@bl8ze73 I'm also a diamond 5 tank (Winton only), it does get hard, coaching helps

    • @J-theSloth
      @J-theSloth Год назад +81

      Shroud is in gold.
      Don’t sell yourself short, you need awareness too.

    • @teddyispg
      @teddyispg Год назад +2

      @@J-theSloth nah just play sojourn, widow or tracer and muscle harder

  • @reagansido5823
    @reagansido5823 Год назад +162

    "If I was blind, and I wanted to know what something looked like, I wouldn't ask another blind person."
    I really like that analogy.

    • @kirillnezhentsev7700
      @kirillnezhentsev7700 Год назад +5

      If I were blind, and I wanted to know what something looked like, I'd prefer to have an opinion of a person who had gone blind. They would have better chance to know what to relate, and in what terms to explain.
      OW2 coaching has lots of the issue. See the "educational" placement to gm vids aplenty, people are singing along to their own current mechanical actions, situational obscure hints and advice like "use aim trainer."
      It's omnipresent though. There are math problem youtube videos where creators narrate the railroad solution of application of theorems, formulas and substitutions without ever doubting a student getting the clarity moment-out of the blue-to press that right direction at the right time.

    • @rear5118
      @rear5118 Год назад +1

      I think it's offensive to blind people, I hope none of them will see this

    • @MirageMonarch
      @MirageMonarch Год назад

      @@rear5118 silly asf (imo)

    • @samhhhhh
      @samhhhhh Год назад

      I disagree with the point he's making though. VOD review is something any player can do with their own games and can find things they can improve. It's a great way to get better at the game if you're not sure what went wrong.

    • @Beanpolr
      @Beanpolr Год назад +1

      @@samhhhhh The problem is if you're low rank, and the person giving tips is also low rank, they're less likely to give good advice or even spot certain mistakes, because they might be making them too. And while it isn't a horrible idea, reviewing your own gameplay does mean you might not catch some things that a fresh pair of eyes would, and again if you're low rank you might be going about things all wrong and not know it.

  • @austinmoe4865
    @austinmoe4865 Год назад +249

    10:44
    Gets final blow with Ana sleep dart: "OH MY GOD I JUST HIT A CLIP!"

    • @tomassive383
      @tomassive383 Год назад +32

      That made my stomach turn counter clockwise

    • @LionWithAGun
      @LionWithAGun Год назад +2

      i fr thought the man said a crit and i died a lil

    • @Xelfist
      @Xelfist Год назад +7

      ​@@LionWithAGun imagine if it could crit and made you sleep longer

    • @FlamingNinjaBoi
      @FlamingNinjaBoi Год назад +2

      @@Xelfist My rage would be unfathomable.

    • @Marthyboy88
      @Marthyboy88 Год назад +1

      I laughed outloud both times I heard it.

  • @bridgetdenman6080
    @bridgetdenman6080 Год назад +556

    The reason Brig is "so bad" is because you really only play her when you're getting dove. There are so few supports to play that not being able to play her unless the right conditions are met makes her feel a million times worse, even if she is technically not a weak character.

    • @Ontarianmm
      @Ontarianmm Год назад +4

      The basic issue with Brig is she was out of meta. I think Ramattra will change that.

    • @bluejay7058
      @bluejay7058 Год назад +28

      @@Ontarianmm I think the issue with this statement is that Ramattra's neutral without committing to an engage is amazing, even in Nemesis (block being amazing, fists have massive range, extra armor, move speed, etc.). Unfortunately, she really is only anti-dive, and Ramattra can just win without diving (he's very good at it though)

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 Год назад +16

      @@Ontarianmm Well, but she wasn't out of meta because her kit simply didn't fit, but because it really didn't stick the landing for OW2. Lucio does almost anything she does, but better. Sure, he can't heal a single target quite as quickly, but you are gonna be running Lucio alongside something like a Kiriko, Bap, Ana or Moira anyways who will compensate for it.
      The only thing Brig really has going for herself is her shield and it's nowhere as good as it used to be.

    • @Antonio-ys5zd
      @Antonio-ys5zd Год назад +14

      @@darthplagueis13 use Brig for the duel attack maps. She is really good to defend them after you take over because you know the enemy has to push towards you so you can hold a spot of great position to get the most bang for your buck

    • @SkylineLofe
      @SkylineLofe Год назад +4

      @@bluejay7058 fists have massive range? Good mate, 10 meters isn't much at all,

  • @MrSlaughterrific
    @MrSlaughterrific Год назад +196

    Very relatable flats. I used to coach people up to masters because I was gm and was comfortable with that and holy shit the egos on people are insane. I would just be like dude you're paying me for advice and you're not even listening. Do you just want me to sit here and tell you you're the best?

    • @dazey856
      @dazey856 Год назад +16

      I found dropping my ego and realizing I’m the problem with being hardstuck was really helpful, if only it didn’t like 5 seasons of being hardstuck diamond lol

    • @phoenixflamegames1
      @phoenixflamegames1 Год назад +6

      So uhm...do you still do that?

    • @stupidmonkey151
      @stupidmonkey151 Год назад +2

      @@phoenixflamegames1 Also am intrigued.

    • @SimonPetrikov12
      @SimonPetrikov12 Год назад +3

      It's crazy how full of themselves people are. Never coached, but some of the teams I've had were nuts

    • @Robertdbd20
      @Robertdbd20 Год назад

      can you coach me i can fund im a gold ana main hardstuck

  • @ljb5163
    @ljb5163 Год назад +195

    Literally half the support roster can only heal one person at a time lol. That guy just didn’t like mercy.

    • @Night-Shade.
      @Night-Shade. Год назад +26

      He doesn't know about juggle healing..

    • @SuperThest
      @SuperThest Год назад +25

      That's not totally true. I can appreciate the sentiment; Bap, Brig, Lucio, and Moira can heal multiple people at the same time with all of their healing abilities, but Ana and Kiriko both have an AoE heal, and Kiriko can technically heal multiple people with her primary at a time, it just splits the healing rather than giving everyone the full amount.

    • @vaioretto-chanjade5810
      @vaioretto-chanjade5810 Год назад +15

      nothing is stopping you from switching healing targets fast, even then valk has the second highest sustained aoe healing in the game behind transcendence and its not like mercy's value comes out of healing multiple people at a time
      She's good at focusing or pocketing single targets, das her whole thing

    • @ljb5163
      @ljb5163 Год назад +6

      @@SuperThest Yeah I guess I wasn’t counting suzu and nade because those are abilities on long cooldowns.
      And I knew that technicality with Kiriko’s projectiles would come up lol.

    • @dazey856
      @dazey856 Год назад

      @@ljb5163 it doesn’t have to do with kirikos projectiles, just that they have an AOE healing ability makes them an AOE healer

  • @Y2Jayy
    @Y2Jayy Год назад +31

    I love how Flats describes the Mercy Flying.

  • @Sam-pr9rr
    @Sam-pr9rr Год назад +38

    Love seeing flats pop off lately with his viewer growth, deserves it

  • @furretx8384
    @furretx8384 Год назад +9

    As a TF2 Player, I can agree with the fact that it is hard to get into the higher levels of a new game you play, especially when you have been mostly playing a different game. Like, I have played Team Fortress 2 for about 2000 hours, and could play Medic pretty well. But once I went over to Overwatch, support became very hard to play. My job was no longer as simple as “Heal big guy, heal other people when they are very low, and then use Ubercharge (invincibility) or Kritzcharge (damage buff) as soon as possible. It became “Use your damage output and utility to aid your team while also keeping them alive by healing.” I honestly debated not playing Overwatch anymore after playing a bit, but I sticked with it and am now a Jack of all trades, being able to play Overwatch decently as Tank and Support, while still being able to fluently play Team Fortress 2.

  • @SuperLifestream
    @SuperLifestream Год назад +41

    Flats: "We have 28 new tiktoks"
    Also Flats: uploads a video showing 3, still ends up being 16min long

    • @unixerse297
      @unixerse297 Год назад +2

      Ikr
      I also think cause just like the very last tik tok, he usually goes on these very longg rants about this video and surrounding it so it makes the video way longer than it needs to. not that im complaining

  • @jakovsaric9492
    @jakovsaric9492 Год назад +20

    I have been playing quite a bit of Brig lately in quick play cuz i like the style of the hero, and i gotta admit, she is incredibly fun and rewarding

  • @jaqwinters1951
    @jaqwinters1951 Год назад +9

    Definitely helps to listen to your rants about ranking. I've recently only gotten into gold, and I'm trying to improve myself to muscle my way into Plat and so on. A single person going beyond the threshold means a lot on game

  • @Ram3w
    @Ram3w Год назад +99

    I was in a bronze match playing Lucio last night and I'm working on getting the mechanics down better. Tried to use speed boost as much as possible, with occasional heals, got ripped a new one pretty much the whole game by my team. We stop their payload a bit short so on our turn, it's just cap 3 points. My team gets stuck and everyone just starts cussing at each other. I said fuck it, and just ran damage Lucio......we won, you can absolutely muscle through bronze 😂

    • @soaringaegis
      @soaringaegis Год назад +25

      Speed can be tough in bronze. Engage timing in general is tough in bronze. Either your teammates are too passive or they yeet in without resources and feed. You really do have to focus on the individual offensive part of your kit in the lower ranks, because putting a multiplier on 0 is still 0.

    • @luislagss
      @luislagss Год назад

      Dw your aren't the problem. Those bronze players don't have the fundamental understanding of the game. Lucio isn't good for heals unless you're just poking and not moving. But speed is broken in any team also if u play with a group just run the "rush" comp on attack. Your friends will see why Lucio is so good and be praising u like you're the next coming. (And If u don't know the "rush" comp just reply back lol)

    • @dazey856
      @dazey856 Год назад

      @@Sizzyl nah I’d go bap, dps bap goes so hard in low elo

    • @goldrobin5135
      @goldrobin5135 Год назад +6

      The problem with playing Lucio low ranked (I'm High Silver-Low Gold) is that you need good coms with ur team. Also, many people think you should just heal, since you are a support, and get mad because you "have the fewer healing of the entire lobby" while they are playing Sniper Reaper

    • @Ram3w
      @Ram3w Год назад +1

      @@Sizzyl I do struggle with the wall ride but I have a move on payload maps where I can skate around and over the payload.... pretty much anyone who's consistently killed me pulling that, has admitted to be a side account for a higher ranked player or they flip to a character that requires no aim. My mains are Zen and Mercy but since Lucio is apparently meta, I'm practicing with him.

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 Год назад +17

    I just love the Mercy movement analogies because it's honestly what it would look like to anyone but the person playing her 😆
    Also, all it takes is for the last poster that played Ana to say they were in Silver to have things make sense. It really does hurt watching them frontline like 'oh, that's why you're in Silver and probably blame your team or Blizzard MM for why you can't climb'.

  • @TheGolemLordYT
    @TheGolemLordYT Год назад +3

    THE FIRST THING I SEE WHEN I OPEN YT WAS MY TIKTOK IN YOUR THUMBNAIL, AND I WAS THE FIRST VIDEO BRUH I got so scared, thank you for not roasting my entire existence Flats

  • @AnymMusic
    @AnymMusic Год назад +8

    excuse me THAT'S how big Brig's radius is??? WHAT?!

  • @flyboombasher2858
    @flyboombasher2858 Год назад +5

    On console, I can say that you can muscle your way to mid-plat with raw mechanics. The reason for this is that after plat 3, you hit the people who use the 3rd party connectors to use the mouse and keyboard instead of their controller and now you have 2000% sensitivity hitscan ruining your games

  • @ronanv11
    @ronanv11 Год назад +14

    Yea as a plat support I’m starting to realize how important it is to be versatile. Trying to learn and expand is hard but it’s actually fun. Good luck out there.

    • @adarshvinodkumar6333
      @adarshvinodkumar6333 Год назад

      Yea once I hit plat I had to change the way I play from making sure my team lives to making sure I live 😅
      After that, it was a pretty easy march to diamond then masters

  • @markittystuff
    @markittystuff Год назад +13

    I can't believe how long I been subscribed to both Flats and Flats Two to see the main channel reach over 300k and now this one is about to hit 100k absolutely crazy you love to see it

  • @SecretWalrus99
    @SecretWalrus99 Год назад +8

    hearing flats say the words "Escape from Tarkov" made me smile. The idea of flats trying to learn EFT would be so fucking funny

  • @KeanuChrist
    @KeanuChrist Год назад +11

    I will never get tired of your reactions to TikTok videos. You’re more than welcome to spam my feed.

  • @Wind-Whispers
    @Wind-Whispers Год назад +6

    "If you gonna play comp please go into quick-play and learn a few different legends"
    Flats: "They said legends, oh god they're not even one of us"

  • @Notllamalord
    @Notllamalord Год назад +1

    “Overwatch is one of the hardest games to learn”
    Rust: any klei game: any paradox game:

  • @luckybynn5788
    @luckybynn5788 Год назад +7

    I love "her rez takes too long" I'm like "well ana's rez takes forever so-"
    Also, I love playing Mercy. She's the fastest thing in universe, if she has even one teammate kind of nearby (even a dead one) she has almost unlimited mobility. But something about playing her makes me so bloodthirsty idk why

    • @adarshvinodkumar6333
      @adarshvinodkumar6333 Год назад +1

      Mercy mains are always killhungry 😂

    • @hawke1297
      @hawke1297 Год назад

      I am the same way with reinhardt when i get bloodthirsty i think it comes down to characters we like and prefer other then that idk

  • @gru682
    @gru682 Год назад +12

    Here for the memes, but having you say things like heal your support as a priority was actually quite helpful since I’m new to OW2. Slowly grinding/improving (currently gold) 😂

    • @devdog7409
      @devdog7409 Год назад +4

      They are not always the priority. Keep in mind they have a passive self healing so you should only heal/help them if they are really low, about to take a lot of damage, or there is nothing better to do. If they are not in danger then there is no need to prioritize them over your dying tank or dps. Definitely pick them over a dps if you have to unless there is a good reason (fight winning ult, dps is popping off, etc.). Context matters a lot when decisions are made.

    • @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
      @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong Год назад +1

      @@devdog7409 To add on to this : If the only target is tank, go shoot at him, if there's a support/dps in your LoS and you're not overextending, then feel free to shoot at the support/dps.

  • @speeddevil4040
    @speeddevil4040 Год назад +4

    The new ranking system has killed my motivation to climb. Not being able to see my rank, and having it reset at the start of the season makes me not really want to play comp anymore.

  • @leinadlink
    @leinadlink Год назад +4

    I really think the underlying issue with brig, is that you really don't have any feedback for your inspire passive. Lucio and other aura supports have a more visible effect on how long their aura lasts and how many people it affects. Whereas inspire... You don't even know when it's going to expire, even if the only thing that matters is that people are in range when you hit someone.
    I think people fail to understand just how much healing and value brig brings to the table, because there's really not that much feedback, there's not even an audio cue for healing with inspire (unless it heals yourself)

  • @FavoriteSniper
    @FavoriteSniper Год назад +5

    Hey Flats, you should pull up Jay3’s clip/short of “mercy op” where a Mercy was pulling insane maneuvers against Jay and his entire team trying to swat the mercy out of the air and the Mercy escaping with a sliver of health. It such a good example of how mobile a Mercy can be, especially in high elo.

    • @Kelenae
      @Kelenae Год назад

      Oh man i remember that clip. Was funny AF watching him try to swat her down and failing.

  • @spork339
    @spork339 Год назад +2

    As a tarkov main who has been playing a lot of OW recently. I appreciate the shoutout. Love your content

    • @stupidmonkey151
      @stupidmonkey151 Год назад

      It is cool for sure. I appreciate he respects the complexity of it. I've been on a hiatus since early-middle of this wipe. Maybe I'll have to go back soon.

  • @sk84ever515
    @sk84ever515 Год назад +1

    I just want to say, I absolutely love the background music for these videos Flatts. Keep up the great work.

  • @ignorantcookie1734
    @ignorantcookie1734 Год назад

    i really liked this video bc not only do u have fun commentary but also give info that actually helps me
    thanks

  • @redyoshi6208
    @redyoshi6208 Год назад +1

    Hell you could play death match to learn how your hero works

  • @xboxruler7373
    @xboxruler7373 Год назад +3

    Devs: we don’t know why people don’t want to play support
    Players: TARGET THINE SUPPORTS FIRST

  • @dendenbruh
    @dendenbruh Год назад +1

    “you slept a Zen point blank at the choke. and thats a clip?”
    😂😂😂

  • @niconii3012
    @niconii3012 Год назад +2

    I don't know if you guys agree, but mercy is extremely fun when you start abusing your shift. Flying everywhere and looking in different directions while trying not to get hit is incredibly fun
    Also I remember in OW1, I think season 2 - 3: I played duo with my friend. Now I'm ofc a support main. Problem was that I really only looked if I had golden healing. So I would purposely not heal my fellow support just because I wanted golden healing. After season 3 I started thinking why I lost so much, where I started to realize that I actually sucked. When I learned how to actually play with my team (Heal my fellow support and started learning game knowledge) I actually enjoyed the game and could win easier than before. I still feel bad for people who was my teammates back then lmao

  • @missmvchi
    @missmvchi Год назад

    I sent the ana player who said he was new to Overwatch 2 tik tok, love your reactions, keep it up!

  • @iimlazyy
    @iimlazyy Год назад

    As someone who came from apex and muscled my way from nothing to diamond first week and then started struggling i cant describe how accurate this is man

  • @texdoc89
    @texdoc89 Год назад +7

    Man it hurt when he said “you’re in silver” man I’m climbing out of it 🤣. My excuse is I came from console and this is my first FPS comp game on PC lol. So I know what I need to do it’s just getting the muscle memory down on M&KB. But I am also a support main who cares too much about keeping my team up even if its not feasible. Mainly because I don’t wanna hear the backlash from titled DPS/Tank players that I let them die. Granted if I move up I won’t hear it anymore but still I just try and be a good teammate even to my own detriment 🙃

    • @caarlosss_-8836
      @caarlosss_-8836 Год назад +1

      Im sorry to tell you this but it does not get less toxic as you go up until much later. Im in gold/plat/diamond lobbies rn and its much worse than when i was in bronze/silver. People take the game much more seriously because theyre higher rank and trying to climb harder rather than people who are playing comp more casually which you see a lot more in bronze/silver. I think in much higher ranks like GM its not as toxic because people up there are more focused on themselves, but Im not up there yet so I wouldnt know, good luck on climbing

    • @adarshvinodkumar6333
      @adarshvinodkumar6333 Год назад +1

      Yeah I’m masters on support and lemme tell ya. It is NOT fun up here lmao. Just gotta mute the haters and play to the best of your abilities. Do the vod reviews (even your good games can be improved upon!) polish your mechanics, and STAY ALIVE. Do that and I’ll see you in masters in no time 👍🏿

    • @LandoCali5
      @LandoCali5 Год назад

      @@caarlosss_-8836 it's toxic at all levels

  • @gmanz5
    @gmanz5 Год назад +1

    Best part of this video is Flats saying Tiktok notifications suuucckkk

  • @Drboness
    @Drboness Год назад

    1 Actual usefull tip with junkrat, you can still use your main weapon while the landmine animation is still running

  • @mythmage8231
    @mythmage8231 Год назад +3

    2:53
    My dude playing Papers Please on stream lmfao

  • @25shadow11
    @25shadow11 Год назад +1

    Mercy is like that old notification the game gives you in the old F Zero games, when you were told you are able to go ham. "YOU GOT BOOST POWER!" and you can spam your speed boost with reckless abandon if you wish. That's Mercy, she is support, but that also includes DAMAGE support, people need to start recognizing that.

  • @Surv1vor1993
    @Surv1vor1993 Год назад

    Sometimes I feel like I’m bad at Overwatch for being in low Gold, but then I hear takes like this and I feel better about my level of play

  • @SDXStudio
    @SDXStudio Год назад

    I always love the comments about people who joined into OW during F2P

  • @accelerei7619
    @accelerei7619 Год назад

    4:50 as a support main i do agree that going on the front line as brig is very funny

  • @bluskies3554
    @bluskies3554 Год назад

    "OH my God I just hit a clip," caught me off guard lmao

  • @vikki_gaming8075
    @vikki_gaming8075 Год назад

    When the guy was front lining as Ana I literally screamed “GET BEHIND YOUR TEAMMATES YOU IDIOT AND HEAL. YOU CAN DO DAMAGE AND IM FINE WITH THAT BUT HEAL.”

  • @meyou1732
    @meyou1732 Год назад

    Thank you for always saying support flats it’s so appreciated

  • @haydenferguson8334
    @haydenferguson8334 Год назад

    In that ana clip talking about new players… That sigma shield owns literal property taxes, that shield has been there longer than I’ve been alive. That shield has lived there so long that it gets a discount on it’s property taxes for being such a long term client. XD

  • @shadowwind0078
    @shadowwind0078 Год назад

    i think the clip was the sheer surprise that he hit a dart at all

  • @Grizzy6122
    @Grizzy6122 Год назад +6

    Don't like that "blind leading the blind" analogy with the silvers reviewing each other. If you wanted the silver to review his own gameplay, it would be equally beneficial or even more since it's a different perspective, if another silver were to review it. Just because their silver doesn't mean they won't catch macro mistakes in retrospect.
    It's more like two dumb kids helping each other with homework. They aren't completely unable to help, two people together are still worth something.

    • @Cryoptic_
      @Cryoptic_ Год назад +2

      its over exaggerating yes, but it makes the point clear. u shouldnt be asking someone equally bad on tips to improve generally. obv, share info u have. but u cant rly coach eachother if ur both silver. u can on the other hand work together for sure. thing is, in the case of a game review... its a good chance the other silver wont understand what the fck is going on. something they think is a mistake might not be one. and the biggest issue, they arent smart enough to see some mistakes. if they were, they would rank up. extremely few low elo players understand positioning and space, along with tempo. mistakes in these categories are crucial to fix, and is unlikely to be spotted by ur silver friend. dont waste ur time. look at uw own stuff sometimes, catch the super obvious ones, then move on and spend ur time better

  • @ihassquidhatt5219
    @ihassquidhatt5219 Год назад +3

    You can DEFFINETLY just force ranks with mechanics. got diamond on my dps only kiriko acnt when i was just trying to aim train. hope i can continue to masters soon

  • @BammTNT
    @BammTNT Год назад +1

    As a brig main and someone new to the game i didn’t know how big her inspire range is XD and I’m glad that (for the most part) I’m playing her like she should be. She a squishy protector, I mean on a good game I can team wipe with my tank all day (and at the start of me playing her I was a tank killer) but I know now that with her kit she’s a back line protector. But my god now knowing just how big her inspire range is I’m definitely gonna keep this in mind for future games XD

  • @spark2841
    @spark2841 Год назад +2

    As an ana/ kiriko main the guy who was saying he hit a clip physically and mentally hurt me. I used to be really bad in overwatch 1 so I placed bronze, and I thought that elo hell was real but now that I have gotten a bit better I have climbed to gold in 2 days. ( btw I am casual pls don't go off on me for being bad an how you can climb faster)

  • @TylerXC91
    @TylerXC91 Год назад +2

    I had no clue brig had AOE healing. That's crazy.

  • @nethanielelliott4949
    @nethanielelliott4949 Год назад +1

    Honestly I think they should add an aura marker for inspire so newer players can play her more easily

  • @zekrua4006
    @zekrua4006 Год назад

    12:01 testament from Harstem, sc2 youtuber, tournament level, diamond is where you start getting into stuff other than mechanics. there was also something about shoes in there but I don't think that applies

  • @melancholy6597
    @melancholy6597 Год назад +14

    One day players will understand that support doesnt mean just healing.

  • @Gatrax
    @Gatrax Год назад

    True. as someone hard stuck plat support, the reason I'm not climbing is straight up that I need to land more shots on enemies.
    I think my game sense is very good but I just dont have the mechanics required to fully do what I know

  • @TheFrothyBrew
    @TheFrothyBrew Год назад +2

    I play in Silver/Gold and I'm telling you, damage boosting DPS is usually a huge waste of time. My guys can't hit a barn. I can spend half the match damage-boosting and the end of match total is ~600. And on console, you can't even utilize her mobility like on PC.

    • @Cryoptic_
      @Cryoptic_ Год назад +1

      somewhat true. my advice, dmg boost the dps or tank with most free dmg. only do this tho if u realize that ur cree cant hit a shot. but u have a junk / sigma, just boost them. they are likely to me more consistent even if they are ass. if not then just heal.

    • @TheFrothyBrew
      @TheFrothyBrew Год назад

      @@Cryoptic_ Can you explain what free damage is, pls? Thank you for the tip! (Giggity)

  • @gothsinn23
    @gothsinn23 Год назад +2

    Watching TikToks like these gives me some hope that I'll claw my way out of Bronze some day, because I can recognize the hypocrisies and mistakes the person in the video is making/the details they're missing and hearing Flats point those things out immediately after. My biggest issue is that I'm still figuring out what mouse sensitivity I should play with and trying to untrain how tight my wrist is while playing and how hard I flick (overflick, tbh) when I'm shooting. It's like my body overcompensates for what I tell it to do and it's this dumb muscle memory thing I need to unlearn. But if all these key parts of game sense make sense to me then, when I learn how to aim better, maybe there's hope for me yet? 😭😭

    • @adarshvinodkumar6333
      @adarshvinodkumar6333 Год назад +2

      Keep on practicing those mechanics! You can do it! Also, there are videos to help you find your OW sens so I recommend checking those out 👍🏿

    • @unixerse297
      @unixerse297 Год назад

      You got this! I also struggle with aim alot, and i learn the hard way. I'm a support Ana main, and ana is all about aim so thats gets me practicing

  • @sicklysweetdenouement
    @sicklysweetdenouement Год назад

    "And not just 1 or 2 heroes"
    Im forcing rein and you cant stop me.

  • @razgrizfps
    @razgrizfps Год назад

    I struggle in high masters. The weird things I can get away with in gold/plat when I’m just playing with my friends is insane.

  • @loserkidpanda
    @loserkidpanda Год назад

    Please Flats bro! Do more of these videos. Super entertaining XD

  • @Alacious
    @Alacious Год назад

    I always feel like I’m comp at the moment I’m doing well and so is the team but the enemy team will have one amazing player that rolls all of us.

  • @MTerry44718
    @MTerry44718 Год назад +1

    Mercy as "the worst sup" made me cry. Legit, missing out on damage boost is top tier stupid. I was struggling in silver with mercy, as the DPS players being boosted doesn't really matter if they can't hit shots, but I can't hit them either, which is why I play mercy. Self burn.

  • @agentlouis9309
    @agentlouis9309 Год назад

    9:13 "One of the hardest games to master" I can imagine about a million games harder to master then this, including COD series, Halo series, Dark Souls, Wow and so many more

  • @phantomeowz
    @phantomeowz Год назад

    "Mercy is the worst support!" Proceeds to not explain her kit correctly..

  • @carston855
    @carston855 Год назад +1

    How do you play in diamond after you muscle your way in? I've made it to mid diamond so many times on dps and support but then most of the heroes feel like they lose their solo carry potential. When I get bad team mates in gold/plat/silver I can carry them but what happens when you get a boosted team mate in diamond? Also I noticed in diamond there are lots of rage hackers and people using Adderall with unhuman reaction times lol.

    • @adarshvinodkumar6333
      @adarshvinodkumar6333 Год назад

      As a support player, if you wanna break through diamond and into masters, you gotta stop playing for your team’s survival and start playing for your survival. Also, recognize that your kit as a support is STACKED with cool abilities that can swing a fight so take some more initiative with your plays. Take control of the tempo when things start to go wrong. Look for a clutch anti or sleep. Try and headshot something with Kiriko to set up your dps for a pick. Even hit the Zen flank if you need to lol. If you get boosted team mates, it is your job as a support to try to enable them and let them shine as the brightest gold player in the lobby. Set them up with good nades or sleeps and give them a confidence nano or two. Even if you lose, you played to your best and that’s what really matters cuz if you keep playing you will climb. Also: solo ulting isn’t that bad of a play on a hero like Bap. Window to confirm a crucial pick before a fight is MASSIVE value.

  • @notsosaltygator
    @notsosaltygator Год назад

    I had a drunk doomfist player on my team last night; so that was fun to deal with.

  • @robastergaming6074
    @robastergaming6074 Год назад

    "her rez is so slow"
    Well it's faster than walking, isn't it?

  • @DarkSkinDoffy
    @DarkSkinDoffy Год назад

    Flats described exactly how I used to play Brig when I first started playing Support last season 😭

  • @serpentslyther4583
    @serpentslyther4583 Год назад

    The fact that the sleep killed the zen was funny though

  • @ethandavies6691
    @ethandavies6691 Год назад +5

    The problem I have is my mechanical skill in games. Your vids have helped my game sense and I can play a certain few characters well but I always hit a skill wall and I'm stuck in the low tiers even when i do on occasion do very well. Ive always sucked at DPS but been a pretty good support and tank especially in OW1 where i was gold. Now I can barely get out of silver 😩 It's frustrating when you know what to do but i can't seem to make myself do it.

    • @soaringaegis
      @soaringaegis Год назад +1

      A good place to start is checking your sensitivity, then start practicing crosshair placement. Thirdly, picking a fixed spot on the wall and moving around while keeping your crosshair pointed at the same spot is a good exercise. Maybe that will help you a bit. :)

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers Год назад

      I want to see gameplay that's more of the opposite. What does okay mechanical skill paired with top tier game sense looks like.

    • @CZProductions
      @CZProductions Год назад

      @@ccricers If you can't hit your shots then your positioning, tempo, and game knowledge don't really matter at all to be honest.

    • @ethandavies6691
      @ethandavies6691 Год назад +1

      @@soaringaegis that's a good tip ill give it a go. Is it harder to do this on PS4 than PC? I'm presuming most here are PC. My sensitivity is 100 and I only recently changed it

    • @adarshvinodkumar6333
      @adarshvinodkumar6333 Год назад

      @@ccricers this is literally me LMAO. I actually lose in dps duels with golds and silvers but I solo climbed to masters on support. How? Positioning, staying alive, and hitting the shots that mattered. I have tons of friends who are kinda stuck in diamond/plat because they end up getting lost in the teamfight and accidentally put themselves in bad positions and thus they die. Also, ability timing and cooldown management. As well as ult tracking and even ability tracking. A content creator you can check out it Fitzy! He’s an awesome sombra player and he’s all brain no aim. He plays in GM just like Flats and the gang too :)

  • @jarrahcook8124
    @jarrahcook8124 Год назад

    We haven't consistently had Brig and Lucio played together since GOATs

  • @stupidmonkey151
    @stupidmonkey151 Год назад

    Escape from Tarkov is ridiculous. But I came from it to Overwatch, and I will say they pose unique challenges.
    Tarkov is much slower with much more emphasis on individual survival. You can sometimes go whole "games" (raids) without encountering a single player. The weapons/equipment system is a large learning curve. The amount of functions makes the game mechanically hard to learn, but for completely different reasons to Overwatch.
    Overwatch being my first objective based hero shooter, it has been another learning curve. Team play like in no other shooter I've played, learning all of the abilities, the healing aspect and movements of certain heros. It's a challenge in it's own right.

  • @MNB730
    @MNB730 Год назад

    Yep, agree very much about muscling your way out from low ranks, got the shitty end of the stick when role queue was introduced and I got 1161 on support, quit and when I returned at the last few months of OW1, I just played Zen, Baptiste, and Lucio and got me into gold in several days. It wasn't easy, didn't win a lot sure and the amount of people not self aware of their mistakes could fit into a binder, but it's possible 100%.
    The amount of charging Reinhardts, diving Winstons, and that one Soldier that just made the enemy tank an ult battery for their supports while somehow having a silver healing(he was bragging about it too much) on King's Row that always blames others...I'm not the perfect support but my god, I can see why people call it ELO hell, still possible to just outgun the enemy but man, people's ego and their lack of self awareness could fool me for a MadTV skit.

  • @nickhill5919
    @nickhill5919 Год назад +5

    I'm enjoying the content flats. Nerf Genji

  • @stolensentience
    @stolensentience Год назад

    “He said legends… he’s not even one of us”
    LOL

  • @rossjones8656
    @rossjones8656 Год назад

    The part with support is so important.

  • @Booklat1
    @Booklat1 Год назад

    "he said legends, omg they're not even one of us"

  • @callme_alex9770
    @callme_alex9770 Год назад

    Everybody gangsta until Flats pulls up “If I’m blind…” LOVE IT 😂❤

  • @ak11yanora
    @ak11yanora Год назад +2

    i beg you. make a playlist for your videos/streams with at least 5 different songs. my head literally explodes whenever i hear this melody

  • @AlbaDHattington
    @AlbaDHattington Год назад

    Brigg needs some type of heal range circle indicator for new player just like Lucio or brig's rally

  • @scrubzmckinsey724
    @scrubzmckinsey724 Год назад

    I’ve played Overwatch 1 but not a whole lot but since the second “game” dropped I’ve been playing it a lot more. I come from Counter Strike and rank around Legendary Eagle. I’m kind of hard stuck Platinum now but I was close to breaching Diamond. I’ve only got about a couple hundred hours in and I think that I need to learn some more characters and their functions to climb higher

  • @pumpkinpie169
    @pumpkinpie169 Год назад

    10:35 I actually flinched when he pronounced kiriko like that

  • @lumputtaja4461
    @lumputtaja4461 Год назад

    12:00 this is so true. I was really good at valorant but got bored and when ow2 launched I decided to give it a shot. I initially placed in bronze but climbed out of there to plat-diamond in like 2 weeks and have been stuck there ever since

  • @gameridiotNOT
    @gameridiotNOT Год назад +2

    "Not only do you have to learn maps, you have to learn heroes"
    ... Isn't that, literally every pvp game? Learning maps and characters/weapons?

  • @derekegan5702
    @derekegan5702 Год назад +4

    Watching this made me feel better about my 1 win and 4 loses in Comp as Ramattra lol

    • @RaidenKunii
      @RaidenKunii Год назад

      Did not make me feel better as a silver 2 support player getting insulted despite me trying my hardest, especially when i get some of the most healing in a lot of my lobbies (all my lobbies are wack, never an equal fight in comp)

    • @davis0677
      @davis0677 Год назад

      @@RaidenKunii next time someone gives you crap remember it's silver, it is the second lowest rank in the game, everyone's got a hell of a lot to learn. Also, something that helped me climb out of there a while back was thinking about supp differently, you are the only role in the entire game that can heal AND get kills. Your job isn't just to keep everyone alive, it's to make everyone else's job as easy as possible, and in some cases, doing their job for them.

  • @F34RDSoldier805
    @F34RDSoldier805 Год назад +2

    What if I'm in gold and the tank keeps rushing in and insta dying before his team even gets there, so the enemy team just rushes you down super quick taking out my support and all i can do is take one down before my team wipes? And the tank has no intention of learning from his mistakes and does it the whole match? This happened to me all day yesterday. I think its because a bunch of bigstreamers started playing because of sponsors that there are a lot of new players. But with some teams, there really isn't much you can do. I just focus on taking out as much as possible and still do decent myself in terms of actually killing other DPS and support, but i literally get stuck because I can't get any Ws. You can't tell me that's my fault man. It's hard down here man, i'm suffering from the pain. I don't think I'm great at the game either, but I am at the very least better than a lot of the other players i run in at gold, with the occaional actual great matchups where the back and forth is fun. I mean i still ranked up even after losing so much, but its still frustrating as fuck. I don't know how i'm supposed to do the best i can when my team wipes so fucking quick because of these weird dives. Like even when i played support, Tanks in gold think their invincible or something even when being full pocketed. Diving in when the rest of the team is still trying to get to the fight. This is too common. Like my team dies and i'm always the last one and all i do is A and D strafe and these fucks can't hit me. How the fuck does my team die so quick? wtf

    • @Cryoptic_
      @Cryoptic_ Год назад +1

      just focus on urself mate. u do ur best, u keep improving urself. there is literally no good argument to care about ur teammates performance, no reason to blame teammates. they are in for one game, and u practically dont see them again. so just be the best player u can be urself.

    • @mars7540
      @mars7540 Год назад +1

      Trust the process man, if you're truly good, YOU WILL CLIMB. This has been proven many times by those who do unranked to GMs. If you're in gold and you're "hardstuck" then I'm sorry, maybe that's the rank you actually do belong. Keep practicing and focus on yourself because you will improve if you keep playing.

  • @AntLeonardi01
    @AntLeonardi01 Год назад

    “I hate egos” -two seconds later- “silvers are like blind people”

  • @Nickwilde7755
    @Nickwilde7755 Год назад

    The problem with being stuck with the casuals is you are usually the only one trying

  • @ow_oso
    @ow_oso Год назад

    As a hitscan main f-22 mercys are the bane of my existence💀

  • @Cross2Live
    @Cross2Live Год назад

    On console, it’s so hard not to shoot the tank because the aim assist for enemy tank is more intense than the sun’s gravitational pull. While aiming at supports feels like our aim is actually being pushed away.

  • @JuanitO_o
    @JuanitO_o Год назад

    when you say outmuscle your way through the rank, does that mean play your main and try and do your best or does it mean play the meta heroes? obviously good positioning and stuff apply to both scenarios but im just curious.

  • @RetromaniacXD
    @RetromaniacXD Год назад +1

    Just out of interest, how are you supposed to play Brigitte? I’m new to OW and I thought she was a frontline healer so I thought she was pretty useless…

  • @Backfisch5927
    @Backfisch5927 Год назад +3

    I'm also in silver, but at least I don't try to give advice.